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Post by davycrockett on May 8, 2022 15:19:51 GMT 1
Amen. Think it's time a moderator closed this thread to further comments now as its run its course. I wont hold my breath that it will happen though đ I might start a thread to talk about the flu, or common cold, pretty much what this is now đ Youâve posted on this one 3 times in the last hour so obviously still a demand, best keep it going otherwise what else can you moan about đ
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Post by Valerioch on May 8, 2022 15:20:42 GMT 1
I might start a thread to talk about the flu, or common cold, pretty much what this is now đ Youâve posted on this one 3 times in the last hour so obviously still a demand, best keep it going otherwise what else can you moan about đ Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting
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Post by davycrockett on May 8, 2022 15:23:37 GMT 1
Youâve posted on this one 3 times in the last hour so obviously still a demand, best keep it going otherwise what else can you moan about đ Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting Sorry it was Grizzly who wanted it closing just carry on đ
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 8, 2022 15:54:58 GMT 1
Amen. Think it's time a moderator closed this thread to further comments now as its run its course. I wont hold my breath that it will happen though đ I might start a thread to talk about the flu, or common cold, pretty much what this is now đ Oh NO...... not another 460 pages of nothingness đ
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 8, 2022 16:25:18 GMT 1
For anyone who have not been vaccinated, the pandemic is not over. In South Africa there appear to two new, more infectious, (they can find a way around natural immunity), sub-variants of Omicron - and cases are soaring. Expect those sub-variants will have made their way here by the winter. Vaccinated to the max and it's just another Omicron case. Unvaccinated, or not up to date with whatever vaccinations are recommeded for you, and it could be serious. Serious question - where do you find this information from? Even mainstream media has stopped reporting on it and I canât see why anyone would willingly go searching for Covid scare stories.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 8, 2022 16:36:55 GMT 1
For anyone who have not been vaccinated, the pandemic is not over. In South Africa there appear to two new, more infectious, (they can find a way around natural immunity), sub-variants of Omicron - and cases are soaring. Expect those sub-variants will have made their way here by the winter. Vaccinated to the max and it's just another Omicron case. Unvaccinated, or not up to date with whatever vaccinations are recommeded for you, and it could be serious. Serious question - where do you find this information from? Even mainstream media has stopped reporting on it and I canât see why anyone would willingly go searching for Covid scare stories. My mother in law is still finding them (and believing every word of them)
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2022 19:46:04 GMT 1
Youâve posted on this one 3 times in the last hour so obviously still a demand, best keep it going otherwise what else can you moan about đ Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting you actually post the most inaccurate ones maybe you should do what you threatened and go start a flu thread instead
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Post by Valerioch on May 8, 2022 20:37:32 GMT 1
Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting you actually post the most inaccurate ones maybe you should do what you threatened and go start a flu thread instead What have I said that is inaccurate?
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2022 20:58:45 GMT 1
you actually post the most inaccurate ones maybe you should do what you threatened and go start a flu thread instead What have I said that is inaccurate? which posts have you corrected ?
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Post by Valerioch on May 8, 2022 21:11:18 GMT 1
What have I said that is inaccurate? which posts have you corrected ? Surely thatâs obvious if youâve read this page properly? StaffordShrew said âanyone not vaccinated to the recommended level will be in trouble.â Thatâs simply not true - I know unvaccinated people who have done just fine when catching Covid. The stats are also readily available that millions of unvaccinated have been fine with covid Iâve had my 3 jabs and donât understand why anybody wouldnât have the jabs, but to say anyone not vaccinated will be in trouble is total nonsense
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2022 21:16:46 GMT 1
you've correct 193 of your own 586 posts on this thread alone ;-)
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 8, 2022 21:48:16 GMT 1
you've correct 193 of your own 586 posts on this thread alone ;-) Jesus, you REALLY do need to get a better life..... đ
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2022 22:08:33 GMT 1
you've correct 193 of your own 586 posts on this thread alone ;-) Jesus, you REALLY do need to get a better life..... đ Hello my favourite stalker , you need to learn to spot a joke when you see one , you life is obsessed with me , youâre like my dog đśđžđžđž
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Post by staffordshrew on May 8, 2022 23:50:42 GMT 1
you actually post the most inaccurate ones maybe you should do what you threatened and go start a flu thread instead What have I said that is inaccurate? "Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting" was inaccurate for a start, my post was not inaccurate, at least not if you trust the BBC, most people do.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 9, 2022 0:07:28 GMT 1
Go ahead and yawn Come the winter, when cases peak again, anyone not vaccinated to the recommended level will be in trouble. These things don't just disappear just because you yawn at them âAnyoneâ - can I laugh aswell as yawn? đ Scaremongering, delusion, or both, at its highest level. Covid has never had âanyone not vaccinated in troubleâ. It has always disproportionately effected the elderly, and those with underlying health conditions. This is fact, please look at the stats of hospitalisation and death by age group Should the elderly and sick maintain a high level of immunity through vaccination? Yes Should âanyoneâ be s**t scared if we donât have yet another booster? No Your choice. Personally, if the experts recommend another booster I will have it. Why take chances? Numbers of younger, fit, people dieing might be low, but some do. Some also suffer from symptoms of "Long Covid". Your thumbing your nose, laughing and yawning at basic precautions over Covid is simply reckless. Do you not wear a seatbelt in the car? Or maybe only because it's the law? Do you never wear sunscreen? Do you wash your hands before preparing food? Would you wear a facemask if sanding down something? Just basic precautions, that's all it takes, then we can get on with life knowing we have done what we can at very little cost or hindrance to us.
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 0:16:12 GMT 1
What have I said that is inaccurate? "Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting" was inaccurate for a start, my post was not inaccurate, at least not if you trust the BBC, most people do. you sound like small print at the end of a sales pitch
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Post by neilsalop on May 9, 2022 6:13:35 GMT 1
It appears that there are newer, more serious variants of Omicron doing the rounds in South Africa at the moment. The vaccinated don't seem to be as badly affected, but those who aren't jabbed are suffering worse symptoms than from the earlier variant.
Quite frankly I couldn't care less if people in the UK are or aren't vaccinated any more. I have done what I can to mitigate the symptoms if I do get it, by being fully jabbed.
Like it or not the pandemic is not going away fully and Covid 19 and it's variants will be around for potentially years to come. People put their lives on hold, either voluntarily or by force for the best part of 2 years and won't stand for that happening again, so somehow we're all going to have to learn to live with it. Some people will die, some people will suffer, some people won't even be affected by it.
If the vaccines had been made open source when they were first developed so many more people could have been vaccinated around the world and these new variants may never have had the opportunity to develop, but that ship has well and truly sailed now, so all we can do is hope that a vaccine resistant strain doesn't pop along any time soon.
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 6:45:09 GMT 1
âAnyoneâ - can I laugh aswell as yawn? đ Scaremongering, delusion, or both, at its highest level. Covid has never had âanyone not vaccinated in troubleâ. It has always disproportionately effected the elderly, and those with underlying health conditions. This is fact, please look at the stats of hospitalisation and death by age group Should the elderly and sick maintain a high level of immunity through vaccination? Yes Should âanyoneâ be s**t scared if we donât have yet another booster? No Your choice. Personally, if the experts recommend another booster I will have it. Why take chances? Numbers of younger, fit, people dieing might be low, but some do. Some also suffer from symptoms of "Long Covid". Your thumbing your nose, laughing and yawning at basic precautions over Covid is simply reckless. Do you not wear a seatbelt in the car? Or maybe only because it's the law? Do you never wear sunscreen? Do you wash your hands before preparing food? Would you wear a facemask if sanding down something? Just basic precautions, that's all it takes, then we can get on with life knowing we have done what we can at very little cost or hindrance to us. Please read my post properly - Iâve had 3/3 jabs offered to me so far and recommend everyone do the same God knows if Iâll be offered another booster - probably come autumn/winter Classic reply though, anyone whoâs not still living in fear of covid gets practically brandished anti-vax. Bulls**t
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 6:50:34 GMT 1
What have I said that is inaccurate? "Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting"Â was inaccurate for a start, my post was not inaccurate, at least not if you trust the BBC, most people do. Iâve explained this already, you said âanyone not vaccinated to the recommended level will be in trouble.â My opinion, based on official government and worldwide stats and science available, is that this comment is inaccurate rubbish. In the UK, millions of healthy people have done just fine catching covid either before vaccination was available, or because they chose not to have the jab. Covid discriminates against the elderly and already vulnerable, quite how people still donât understand that 26 months on is utterly terrifying
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Post by neilsalop on May 9, 2022 7:13:47 GMT 1
"Iâll continue to post on this thread for as long as it is open too, where I feel posts are inaccurate and require challenging and in my opinion, correcting" was inaccurate for a start, my post was not inaccurate, at least not if you trust the BBC, most people do. Iâve explained this already, you said âanyone not vaccinated to the recommended level will be in trouble.â My opinion, based on official government and worldwide stats and science available, is that this comment is inaccurate rubbish. In the UK, millions of healthy people have done just fine catching covid either before vaccination was available, or because they chose not to have the jab. Covid discriminates against the elderly and already vulnerable, quite how people still donât understand that 26 months on is utterly terrifying You are correct in that Covid affects the elderly and those with underlying conditions more. Just a couple of points though.
If you getting vaccinated can help prevent you from catching and spreading the virus, why wouldn't you get it for the good of all those around you that may fall into those categories?
Secondly how do you know that you don't have an un-diagnosed underlying condition? Many people spend their lives not knowing that they even have a condition that could kill them, Connor Goldson is a case in point, never even had a clue that he could keel over and die at any moment due to a heart defect.
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Post by martinshrew on May 9, 2022 9:36:13 GMT 1
Iâve explained this already, you said âanyone not vaccinated to the recommended level will be in trouble.â My opinion, based on official government and worldwide stats and science available, is that this comment is inaccurate rubbish. In the UK, millions of healthy people have done just fine catching covid either before vaccination was available, or because they chose not to have the jab. Covid discriminates against the elderly and already vulnerable, quite how people still donât understand that 26 months on is utterly terrifying You are correct in that Covid affects the elderly and those with underlying conditions more. Just a couple of points though.
If you getting vaccinated can help prevent you from catching and spreading the virus, why wouldn't you get it for the good of all those around you that may fall into those categories?
Secondly how do you know that you don't have an un-diagnosed underlying condition? Many people spend their lives not knowing that they even have a condition that could kill them, Connor Goldson is a case in point, never even had a clue that he could keel over and die at any moment due to a heart defect.
You need to ask the unvaccinated that question, Valerioch has had 3/3 jabs offered. Maybe Pughy can help you out there đ
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 10:34:11 GMT 1
Your choice. Personally, if the experts recommend another booster I will have it. Why take chances? Numbers of younger, fit, people dieing might be low, but some do. Some also suffer from symptoms of "Long Covid". Your thumbing your nose, laughing and yawning at basic precautions over Covid is simply reckless. Do you not wear a seatbelt in the car? Or maybe only because it's the law? Do you never wear sunscreen? Do you wash your hands before preparing food? Would you wear a facemask if sanding down something? Just basic precautions, that's all it takes, then we can get on with life knowing we have done what we can at very little cost or hindrance to us. Please read my post properly - Iâve had 3/3 jabs offered to me so far and recommend everyone do the same God knows if Iâll be offered another booster - probably come autumn/winter Classic reply though, anyone whoâs not still living in fear of covid gets practically brandished anti-vax. Bulls**t I had 5 unpaid days off work, it was worrying on day 2 as I had a very bad chest and no idea if that was just the start or the peak of how bad it would get, a month on I still carried the remains of the cough, and then just when I thought it was over I contracted pleurisy which could well have been linked, luckily it wasn't too bad, gave me some discomfort and aches in my chest and shoulders, and dare I say its very nearly gone did I have a light dose of covid or was it a heavy one ? that I don't know, but was I right to be concerned about it, definitely , we all know our own bodies, I knew asymptomatic wouldn't be my prize for getting it , you knew you could laugh and joke about it as it wouldn't bother you so the bit about anti vax, and bulls**t is totally unfair really the final point, how will my dose of covid effect me in years to come ? im worried knowing that having had someone very similar to covid in 2009 that left permanent damage and I simply didn't want it again but was as good as forced too have it in the end
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Post by staffordshrew on May 9, 2022 11:46:47 GMT 1
Some will be blasĂŠ about Covid, fair enough, take your chances, there's plenty of people still smoke even though it's bad for you. Me, I prefer to keep an eye on something that has done so much damage around the world already, that's so that I don't have to live in fear.
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 15:09:43 GMT 1
Iâve explained this already, you said âanyone not vaccinated to the recommended level will be in trouble.â My opinion, based on official government and worldwide stats and science available, is that this comment is inaccurate rubbish. In the UK, millions of healthy people have done just fine catching covid either before vaccination was available, or because they chose not to have the jab. Covid discriminates against the elderly and already vulnerable, quite how people still donât understand that 26 months on is utterly terrifying You are correct in that Covid affects the elderly and those with underlying conditions more. Just a couple of points though.
If you getting vaccinated can help prevent you from catching and spreading the virus, why wouldn't you get it for the good of all those around you that may fall into those categories?
Secondly how do you know that you don't have an un-diagnosed underlying condition? Many people spend their lives not knowing that they even have a condition that could kill them, Connor Goldson is a case in point, never even had a clue that he could keel over and die at any moment due to a heart defect.
Iâve had all my 3 jabs, but unfortunately the jabs donât stop the spread, as we all initially hoped they would
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 15:17:17 GMT 1
Please read my post properly - Iâve had 3/3 jabs offered to me so far and recommend everyone do the same God knows if Iâll be offered another booster - probably come autumn/winter Classic reply though, anyone whoâs not still living in fear of covid gets practically brandished anti-vax. Bulls**t I had 5 unpaid days off work, it was worrying on day 2 as I had a very bad chest and no idea if that was just the start or the peak of how bad it would get,  a month on I still carried the remains of the cough, and then just when I thought it was over I contracted pleurisy which could well have been linked,  luckily it wasn't too bad,  gave me some discomfort and aches in my chest and shoulders, and dare I say its very nearly gone did I have a light dose of covid or was it a heavy one ? that I don't know,  but was I right to be concerned about it,  definitely ,  we all know our own bodies,  I knew asymptomatic wouldn't  be my prize for getting it ,  you knew you could laugh and joke about it as it wouldn't bother you so the bit about anti vax, and bulls**t is totally unfair really the final point,  how will my dose of covid effect me in years to come ? im worried knowing that having had someone very similar to covid in 2009 that left permanent damage and I simply didn't want it again but was as good as forced too have it in the end With all due respect, youâre still missing my point Youâve repeatedly told us you have underlying conditions. I challenged the statement that ANYONE not vaccinated to the recommended dosage (3 or 4 doses) is in trouble
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 18:29:22 GMT 1
I had 5 unpaid days off work, it was worrying on day 2 as I had a very bad chest and no idea if that was just the start or the peak of how bad it would get, a month on I still carried the remains of the cough, and then just when I thought it was over I contracted pleurisy which could well have been linked, luckily it wasn't too bad, gave me some discomfort and aches in my chest and shoulders, and dare I say its very nearly gone did I have a light dose of covid or was it a heavy one ? that I don't know, but was I right to be concerned about it, definitely , we all know our own bodies, I knew asymptomatic wouldn't be my prize for getting it , you knew you could laugh and joke about it as it wouldn't bother you so the bit about anti vax, and bulls**t is totally unfair really the final point, how will my dose of covid effect me in years to come ? im worried knowing that having had someone very similar to covid in 2009 that left permanent damage and I simply didn't want it again but was as good as forced too have it in the end With all due respect, youâre still missing my point Youâve repeatedly told us you have underlying conditions. I challenged the statement that ANYONE not vaccinated to the recommended dosage (3 or 4 doses) is in trouble and you are missing my point, your who cares attitude goes back long before some had even had their first vaccine, I was still best part of 2 months before having my 2nd on this day 1,700 confirmed cases yesterday on population of 68,000,000 Some people would have you believe the Grim Reaper is lurking on the street corner. As I said yesterday, I actually feel sorry for those s**t scared of going out even after they have been vaccinated
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 18:43:34 GMT 1
With all due respect, youâre still missing my point Youâve repeatedly told us you have underlying conditions. I challenged the statement that ANYONE not vaccinated to the recommended dosage (3 or 4 doses) is in trouble and you are missing my point,  your who cares attitude goes back long before some had even had their first vaccine,  I was still best part of 2 months before having my 2nd on this day 1,700 confirmed cases yesterday on population of 68,000,000 Some people would have you believe the Grim Reaper is lurking on the street corner. As I said yesterday, I actually feel sorry for those s**t scared of going out even after they have been vaccinated Well thatâs par for the course isnât it, you donât have a reasonable or rational reply to the actual point Iâm making, so you move the goal posts to a different pitch My post was a perfectly reasonable challenge to StaffordShrews post that I stand by, that has only so far received replies going off topic, either incorrectly about my view on vaccines or about peoples own personal experience for the hundredth time, with a bit of âlong covidâ chucked in for good measure - always a good one that! Weâll get there one day⌠sigh
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 18:56:33 GMT 1
and you are missing my point, your who cares attitude goes back long before some had even had their first vaccine, I was still best part of 2 months before having my 2nd on this day Well thatâs par for the course isnât it, you donât have a reasonable or rational reply to the actual point Iâm making, so you move the goal posts to a different pitch My post was a perfectly reasonable challenge to StaffordShrews post that I stand by, that has only so far received replies going off topic, either incorrectly about my view on vaccines or about peoples own personal experience for the hundredth time, with a bit of âlong covidâ chucked in for good measure - always a good one that! Weâll get there one day⌠sigh I remember several repeatedly mentioning the word 'paranoia' when the likes of myself was predicting a 2nd wave way back in mid 2020 many people on here get paranoia when old threads return ;-)
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Post by staffordshrew on May 9, 2022 20:14:08 GMT 1
and you are missing my point, your who cares attitude goes back long before some had even had their first vaccine, I was still best part of 2 months before having my 2nd on this day Well thatâs par for the course isnât it, you donât have a reasonable or rational reply to the actual point Iâm making, so you move the goal posts to a different pitch My post was a perfectly reasonable challenge to StaffordShrews post that I stand by, that has only so far received replies going off topic, either incorrectly about my view on vaccines or about peoples own personal experience for the hundredth time, with a bit of âlong covidâ chucked in for good measure - always a good one that! Weâll get there one day⌠sigh Simply substitute the word "will" for "could". There, job done, back in the box.
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 20:22:32 GMT 1
Well thatâs par for the course isnât it, you donât have a reasonable or rational reply to the actual point Iâm making, so you move the goal posts to a different pitch My post was a perfectly reasonable challenge to StaffordShrews post that I stand by, that has only so far received replies going off topic, either incorrectly about my view on vaccines or about peoples own personal experience for the hundredth time, with a bit of âlong covidâ chucked in for good measure - always a good one that! Weâll get there one day⌠sigh Simply substitute the word "will" for "could". There, job done, back in the box. I could if there was a will to substitute
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