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Post by ssshrew on Oct 27, 2019 8:35:03 GMT 1
I guess they did hit the woodwork twice so perhaps that what he meant. 3 times I counted first half a long shot struck an upright 2nd half, we all left a ball to drop and in nipped a little guy to head against the bottom of a post and then the crossbar was rattled Ah I wasn’t sure about the third one as to whether O’Leary pushed on to the crossbar because they were awarded a corner but then thinking about it it could have hit the bar and he then pushed it to make sure.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 27, 2019 8:49:08 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 9:03:00 GMT 1
As a certain ex-manager used to say, fine margins.
On another Sunday morning we'd be talking about a 1-3 defeat.
Overall, our performance was good, indifferent and frustrating in equal measure.
There's no doubt that Sunderland have some very good players, but as a team they looked disjointed. Remember, Lincoln beat them 2-0 the other week. The point being they are beatable and in this division for a reason, despite their resources.
In Cummings we have an absolute gem of a player and he was my MoM. Not just for the excellent winner, but for his overall play and selfless work for the team. At one point in the first-half he was playing right-back.
How we set-up against Wycombe will be interesting. And whether we can get away with it again, if it's the same.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 27, 2019 9:09:11 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now. I also was concerned about him being subbed so early, particularly as Fejiri is lazy and isn't prepared to run very much to close down opponents. We are missing Lang in that respect, whilst Morison's sudden departure has left us short of someone who can win headers and hold the ball up. We are very light up front, something which will need to be addressed in January. But that is 9 games away!
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Post by Pilch on Oct 27, 2019 9:52:57 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now. he should be fit by now ? what facts are you basing that on ? or is it just something you've plucked from thin air ? perhaps you should contact Jon Pitts and let him know where he is going wrong
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 27, 2019 9:54:41 GMT 1
I think he is playing for longer in each game?
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Post by greeny on Oct 27, 2019 10:01:12 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now. He played up top by himself. He ran the whole time he was on the pitch covering most areas in the final 3rd and constantly running off the ball as well. He also got crunched a few times by their defenders. I’m not supposed he was knackered. Are you suggesting he’s not putting in the work on the training field? I think he looks a lot fitter than when he joined. He looks leaner and sharper. It’s not as straightforward to just have a pre-season during the season as you need regular rests after games rather than building fitness up gradually. Even if he was fit you can’t expect him to play that role on a Tuesday and Saturday and play 90 mins. He’s potentially our most important player and you want to run him into the ground early in the season?
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Oct 27, 2019 11:02:31 GMT 1
One poster who is suggesting a player is "lazy" is a bit disrespectful in the least, and I agree that Cummings ran the line on his own which its toll on him, nothing to do with fitness.
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Post by quinnster on Oct 27, 2019 11:10:04 GMT 1
Most entertaining game / occasion as it was a big club Sunderland, Salop were up for it. Great clash between their attack our defence, they put 5 past Tranmere, we confident at back...., all set up and lived up to it. Should give lads confidence to win games now after a tight start to season. Liked the team line up playing to our strengths. It worked.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 27, 2019 11:40:50 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now. he should be fit by now ? what facts are you basing that on ? or is it just something you've plucked from thin air ? perhaps you should contact Jon Pitts and let him know where he is going wrong You're such a condescending prick at times.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 27, 2019 11:57:48 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now. he should be fit by now ? what facts are you basing that on ? or is it just something you've plucked from thin air ? perhaps you should contact Jon Pitts and let him know where he is going wrong i dont know why you have to make such sarcastic posts.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 27, 2019 12:00:29 GMT 1
unless cummings was subsituted for tactical reasons or he had a knock, i would be a bit concerened after nearly three months into the season he is not fully fit( i belive he did not have a pre season so you cant expect him to be fully fit at the start of the season)but he should be fit by now. He played up top by himself. He ran the whole time he was on the pitch covering most areas in the final 3rd and constantly running off the ball as well. He also got crunched a few times by their defenders. I’m not supposed he was knackered. Are you suggesting he’s not putting in the work on the training field? I think he looks a lot fitter than when he joined. He looks leaner and sharper. It’s not as straightforward to just have a pre-season during the season as you need regular rests after games rather than building fitness up gradually. Even if he was fit you can’t expect him to play that role on a Tuesday and Saturday and play 90 mins. He’s potentially our most important player and you want to run him into the ground early in the season? i think i am makling a reasonable point and asking a reasonable question i am aware things are never straightforward and i am not questioning his work rate and without doubt when he had the ball to his feet in the box ,he is the player most likly to score and he is without doubt a good adition to the squad.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 27, 2019 12:20:27 GMT 1
Cummings put in a ridiculous shift yesterday, compared to Fejiri who mainly stood offside and let the likes of Edwards and Laurent, who’d already run a marathon each, do all the chasing. To be honest he hasn’t been the same since he stopped partnering Amadi-Holloway!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 27, 2019 13:40:16 GMT 1
Cummings put in a ridiculous shift yesterday, compared to Fejiri who mainly stood offside and let the likes of Edwards and Laurent, who’d already run a marathon each, do all the chasing. To be honest he hasn’t been the same since he stopped partnering Amadi-Holloway! he did and if they continue to play one forward that is what will be expected of him, he derservers a lot of credit for what he was doing despite the height difference he gave it a go and was coming to the half way line to get involved in the game. the goal was clinical ,we do need to try and get more balls on the ground to him, out of the three forwards he currently looks the most likely to score
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Post by frankwellshrews on Oct 27, 2019 13:53:03 GMT 1
Cummings put in a ridiculous shift yesterday, compared to Fejiri who mainly stood offside and let the likes of Edwards and Laurent, who’d already run a marathon each, do all the chasing. To be honest he hasn’t been the same since he stopped partnering Amadi-Holloway! he did and if they continue to play one forward that is what will be expected of him, he derservers a lot of credit for what he was doing despite the height difference he gave it a go and was coming to the half way line to get involved in the game. the goal was clinical ,we do need to try and get more balls on the ground to him, out of the three forwards he currently looks the most likely to score Both his goals at home have come from that edge of the 18 yard box kind of area from balls to feet. Shouldn't be too hard to try to replicate that scenario. Agree about him covering a lot of ground but isn't that supposed to be Whalley's job supporting him? Concerning to me that he feels he has to chase the ball and often finds himself crossing when he should be in the box waiting for the cross.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 13:59:50 GMT 1
he should be fit by now ? what facts are you basing that on ? or is it just something you've plucked from thin air ? perhaps you should contact Jon Pitts and let him know where he is going wrong i dont know why you have to make such sarcastic posts. Not really zen. You've made a statement based off I presume a less than standard knowledge of fitness and pilch has called you out on it.
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Post by randomtictacs on Oct 27, 2019 14:50:10 GMT 1
Good performance from the team yesterday. Tactics spot on, so well done the manager also. Keeper and central defence looked very solid. Encouraging for the rest of the season. Midfield worked their socks off and were decent in possession, if without creating much - MoM for me was Laurent for his work rate and goal assist, closely followed by Beckles. Dave Edwards also getting back to form which will be a big bonus for us.
Only minor concerns were Goldbourne's hesitation almost every time he arrives on the ball in a defensive position, caught on it a fair number of times, plus Fey's obvious difficulty in just running around for 30 mins (carrying an injury?) and keeping their defence occupied or even slightly worried enough to not push an additional player forward and create 'noooooo, you've let Max Power get in range of our goal' moments.
Still plenty of work to do, but getting there, slowly.
Does anyone share my suspicion that our manager drives a Volvo ?
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Post by mattmw on Oct 27, 2019 15:06:10 GMT 1
i dont know why you have to make such sarcastic posts. Not really zen. You've made a statement based off I presume a less than standard knowledge of fitness and pilch has called you out on it. Personally I think no one should be allowed to post an opinion about the match on here unless they have played 200 league games, managed in the league for at least 2 seasons, have refereed at least 50 Premier League games and hold a PHD in fitness training. Would really improve the quality of posts on these pages.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 27, 2019 15:33:57 GMT 1
Does anyone share my suspicion that our manager drives a Volvo ? Scratching my head over that comment. I'm possibly confused because I've just finished "A Man Called Ove' in which Ove falls out with his neighbour Rune because Ove thinks all patriotic Swedes should drive a Saab while Rune has bought a BMW. Rune previously drove a Volvo which Ove considers to be inferior, but OK because it's not foreign.
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Oct 27, 2019 16:09:45 GMT 1
Well done to the town on their 1-0 win against sunderland yesterday.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 27, 2019 16:41:40 GMT 1
i dont know why you have to make such sarcastic posts. Not really zen. You've made a statement based off I presume a less than standard knowledge of fitness and pilch has called you out on it. it is not him questioing my view point i have an issue with ( look at this forum after a match and we have many view points after a game ,it his sarcastic tone.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 27, 2019 16:45:17 GMT 1
Well done to the town on their 1-0 win against sunderland yesterday. going home after a home win is a pleasent feeling to have.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 27, 2019 22:43:44 GMT 1
Well, after Tuesday night's damp squib effort, I found yesterday a very satisfying win and performance. We were never likely to be on the front foot after taking the lead but I thought we carried a goal threat throughout the game, defended superbly and never stopped working. I'll take that.
Sunderland's finishing was poor - 2/16 shots on target. I never think we're unlucky when we hit the woodwork - it's a miss, pure and simple - so I'm not going to accept we were lucky that they did it three times. With better finishing, they could have won - but they didn't have that, so the loss was justified.
Who are these idiots texting Radio Shropshire though? Imagine calling a Salop manager whose team is averaging 1.5 points per game in League 1 "out of his depth"! Just ridiculous. Mind you, I did hear there's a regular caller who asks what the score was and then calls for the manager's head if we lost, so the standard of analysis is no doubt mixed.
A long way to go and much improvement to be made but it's generally going in the right direction.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 27, 2019 22:47:02 GMT 1
Only 4 points off half way to the magic 50 points still with 9 games to the halfway point of the season. Great, and quite a suprise result. Think it's more like the magic 48 points this season, with only 44 games to be played. I don't think a team getting 48 will go down. Hopefully, we can look well past that before too long.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 27, 2019 23:53:07 GMT 1
Only 4 points off half way to the magic 50 points still with 9 games to the halfway point of the season. Great, and quite a suprise result. Think it's more like the magic 48 points this season, with only 44 games to be played. I don't think a team getting 48 will go down. Hopefully, we can look well past that before too long. Indeed. Had forgotten about that when i posted.
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Post by greeny on Oct 28, 2019 8:30:53 GMT 1
Well, after Tuesday night's damp squib effort, I found yesterday a very satisfying win and performance. We were never likely to be on the front foot after taking the lead but I thought we carried a goal threat throughout the game, defended superbly and never stopped working. I'll take that. Sunderland's finishing was poor - 2/16 shots on target. I never think we're unlucky when we hit the woodwork - it's a miss, pure and simple - so I'm not going to accept we were lucky that they did it three times. With better finishing, they could have won - but they didn't have that, so the loss was justified. Who are these idiots texting Radio Shropshire though? Imagine calling a Salop manager whose team is averaging 1.5 points per game in League 1 "out of his depth"! Just ridiculous. Mind you, I did hear there's a regular caller who asks what the score was and then calls for the manager's head if we lost, so the standard of analysis is no doubt mixed. A long way to go and much improvement to be made but it's generally going in the right direction. There was also somebody who felt it’s time O’Leary should be dropped because he can’t kick. It’s embarrassing.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Oct 28, 2019 9:02:43 GMT 1
There was also a time when Fey was the best striker we had in ages, million pound if we sell him, now some 10 or 15 games later he is lazy, disinterested, gives nothing for the team, stands around getting offside etc etc, might as well get rid now and get someone else in January as he is clearly not good enough anymore!!!
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Post by wayahead on Oct 28, 2019 11:09:07 GMT 1
There was also a time when Fey was the best striker we had in ages, million pound if we sell him, now some 10 or 15 games later he is lazy, disinterested, gives nothing for the team, stands around getting offside etc etc, might as well get rid now and get someone else in January as he is clearly not good enough anymore!!! Just his (Feyi) turn, there is always one that gets hammered usually Laurent, but if not Norburn, O’Leary, Okenabirhie, Edwards, Morrison got a bit, oh yes Beckles, Giles, Goldbourne...I could go on. Apparently we are useless and every time we win we are lucky (how many times have I read, “if we played a better team”), but we sit 4 points off a playoff position with a game in hand on some of the teams above. We reduced Sunderland to long range efforts, they never really broke us down. No luck there, good performance. Wycombe will be a completely different, probably harder test.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Oct 28, 2019 11:17:23 GMT 1
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Post by chameleon on Oct 28, 2019 13:08:38 GMT 1
Good team performance. Defence was superb. Special mention to Laurent who I thought was outstanding. Would like to know his running stats, he is supremely fit.
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