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Post by buryshrew on Aug 7, 2018 19:30:47 GMT 1
£400K for Payne? Have we entered a parallel universe or something?
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Post by theriverside on Aug 7, 2018 19:31:18 GMT 1
Given his Twitter reactions to many of our departures this summer I’m not surprised he has a move lined up
I’m sad to see him go myself - 14 goals given his playing time was not a bad return, one he was unlikely to repeat mind if he was not playing through the centre this season. Wide roles didn’t suit last season and wouldn’t have worked this season either!
He’ll do well in the right formation, best of luck Stefan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 19:31:30 GMT 1
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Post by lenny on Aug 7, 2018 19:34:38 GMT 1
If it wasn't for his penalties, his scoring radio would be pants.
AM? FM? DAB? Never could tell with Payne. He certainly wasn't always on the same wavelength as the rest of the team... Surprised so many people are that bothered. I don’t dislike Payne, but I don’t think he’s any better then an average L1 striker. He’s got a goal in him, poachers goals, but he’s not overly good an any particular area, didn’t hold the ball up as well as Morris, isn’t particularly quick or skilful, generally an all round decent player but average at best for this division and replaceable. Always ran his socks off so credit to him for that, even Saturday out of position he did so, also scored from important goals for us so I thank him and wish him well, but I don’t think we’ll struggle without him, all the best Stefan. Little edit, only just read through every message and seen the 400k quote, if that’s true it’s impossible to not accept that, I would have been very happy with half that amount. Pretty much my thoughts. Liked him as a player, find the accusations of him being "lazy" utterly bewildering (was I the only one who saw him making a tackle at RB on Saturday?) and think he could score 20 a season in an attacking team as a starter every game. Indeed he could have done that if he started every game for us (and I believe he only scored one penalty, in fact) given he got 14 and hardly started a game after December - even though our attacking play was mid-table at best. However, he never really fitted in the side. He doesn't suit playing up front on his own, as his hold up ability, link up play and technique are all nothing out of the ordinary and he's poor in the air given his height, and isn't always the fittest (although he looks a lot sharper and fitter than last season). He also managed to miss quite a few chances (testament to the quality of his movement and reading of the game, I suppose) for us which stick in the memory. £400k is good money, but I have two reservations. Firstly, I'm not entirely convinced we'll sign a direct replacement and instead will go with LJL and AAH with Fey as the "change up" option. Secondly, goalscorers are hard to find - see the number of people clamouring for us to sign a 20-goal a season striker at various points in the last season (or indeed every season). However, this move does make sense for us and him, because at the right set-up he'll be a good goalscorer and certainly far better than he is on the wing! Provided we re-invest, then it's a mutually beneficial arrangement (possibly not for Bristol, but I think he'll do well).
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Post by lenny on Aug 7, 2018 19:36:35 GMT 1
Is there an echo? Kind of signing that would make sense and I would be very interested in seeing how he got on given his reputation.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 7, 2018 19:39:11 GMT 1
AM? FM? DAB? Never could tell with Payne. He certainly wasn't always on the same wavelength as the rest of the team... Surprised so many people are that bothered. I don’t dislike Payne, but I don’t think he’s any better then an average L1 striker. He’s got a goal in him, poachers goals, but he’s not overly good an any particular area, didn’t hold the ball up as well as Morris, isn’t particularly quick or skilful, generally an all round decent player but average at best for this division and replaceable. Always ran his socks off so credit to him for that, even Saturday out of position he did so, also scored from important goals for us so I thank him and wish him well, but I don’t think we’ll struggle without him, all the best Stefan. Little edit, only just read through every message and seen the 400k quote, if that’s true it’s impossible to not accept that, I would have been very happy with half that amount. Pretty much my thoughts. Liked him as a player, find the accusations of him being "lazy" utterly bewildering (was I the only one who saw him making a tackle at RB on Saturday?) and think he could score 20 a season in an attacking team as a starter every game. Indeed he could have done that if he started every game for us (and I believe he only scored one penalty, in fact) given he got 14 and hardly started a game after December - even though our attacking play was mid-table at best. However, he never really fitted in the side. He doesn't suit playing up front on his own, as his hold up ability, link up play and technique are all nothing out of the ordinary and he's poor in the air given his height, and isn't always the fittest (although he looks a lot sharper and fitter than last season). He also managed to miss quite a few chances (testament to the quality of his movement and reading of the game, I suppose) for us which stick in the memory. £400k is good money, but I have two reservations. Firstly, I'm not entirely convinced we'll sign a direct replacement and instead will go with LJL and AAH with Fey as the "change up" option. Secondly, goalscorers are hard to find - see the number of people clamouring for us to sign a 20-goal a season striker at various points in the last season (or indeed every season). However, this move does make sense for us and him, because at the right set-up he'll be a good goalscorer and certainly far better than he is on the wing! Provided we re-invest, then it's a mutually beneficial arrangement (possibly not for Bristol, but I think he'll do well). 2 pens both away to Walsall and Sc***horpe.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Aug 7, 2018 20:13:15 GMT 1
No great loss in my view. Hurst dropped him at Christmas for a reason.....
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 7, 2018 20:14:23 GMT 1
The lazy comments are a bit harsh but if we’ve had an decent offer for him then I’d rather take a chance on someone new. Other than a bit of a scoring spree at the start of last season, he’s looked very unconvincing since. Good luck Stefan. COYB Never used to track back though did he?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 20:18:04 GMT 1
No great loss in my view. Hurst dropped him at Christmas for a reason..... Agreed. But, he's better than Holloway and the guy who comes on to let us know the exits are open. Unlike Nolan and Nsiala - this one has come out of the blue, think any replacement would be out of the "Panic Buy" file rather than carefully checked out.
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Post by ambergambler on Aug 7, 2018 20:18:13 GMT 1
The lazy comments are a bit harsh but if we’ve had an decent offer for him then I’d rather take a chance on someone new. Other than a bit of a scoring spree at the start of last season, he’s looked very unconvincing since. Good luck Stefan. COYB Never used to track back though did he? Needed a rocket off Doig every game was constantly barracked from the touch line.
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 7, 2018 20:18:20 GMT 1
Mixed feelings really. He's clearly the best striker we have which albeit isn't saying that much but he's never been outstanding by any sense of the word nor is he that clinical. For every goal there was always another 3-4 guilt edged chances squandered from five yards out. If the figure quoted is true then I think we should bite their hand off. 400k is a hell of a lot of money and frankly he's replaceable even with half that figure being reinvested.
As for laziness, Saturday was the first time I'd ever seen him track back- he always just stayed put upfront. He was never a player to go inside his own half. If a manager can get him to actually put in some effort Brizzle will have potentially a great player but I'm yet to be convinced.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 7, 2018 20:27:03 GMT 1
No great loss in my view. Hurst dropped him at Christmas for a reason..... Agreed. But, he's better than Holloway and the guy who comes on to let us know the exits are open. Unlike Nolan and Nsiala - this one has come out of the blue, think any replacement would be out of the "Panic Buy" file rather than carefully checked out. How often have you seen Holloway play?
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Post by blueboy62 on Aug 7, 2018 20:35:01 GMT 1
Great business for the club. Payne would be lucky to get off the bench this season with our preferred formation.I'll be happy with any fee over £125k for a player out of contract in 12 months. Could not believe the rumoured figure of £200k and fell off my chair when I saw £400k. Stephan needs to play in a front two so this move will suit him and us, so Best of luck Steph.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 20:36:43 GMT 1
Agreed. But, he's better than Holloway and the guy who comes on to let us know the exits are open. Unlike Nolan and Nsiala - this one has come out of the blue, think any replacement would be out of the "Panic Buy" file rather than carefully checked out. How often have you seen Holloway play? Twice - didn't look to clever and his past record simply doesn't cry out "Goal scorer". He should be playing as part of a front two you'd imagine given that he is clearly best at holding up play.
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Post by mrbunny on Aug 7, 2018 20:50:27 GMT 1
Hope we have a replacement lined up but if the rumour of £400k is correct then you can't turn that sort of money down.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 7, 2018 20:52:09 GMT 1
How often have you seen Holloway play? Twice - didn't look to clever and his past record simply doesn't cry out "Goal scorer". He should be playing as part of a front two you'd imagine given that he is clearly best at holding up play. Indeed
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Post by tvor on Aug 7, 2018 20:54:05 GMT 1
said it last week there will be striker incoming,Payne not good enough.and good money will be spent on one,well I hope so Good money doesn't necessarily need to be spent. A high quality young Premiership/Championship striker on a season long loan might be a better option. The loan window doesn't close to the end of the month so more time to do a deal like that also. If Payne does leave by Thursday the last thing needed is a panic buy, not that I think John Askey would do that.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 7, 2018 20:59:11 GMT 1
Agreed. But, Payne is better than Holloway and the guy who comes on to let us know the exits are open.Great description!
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Aug 7, 2018 20:59:40 GMT 1
maybe more like 275k + addons
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Post by northwestman on Aug 7, 2018 21:02:55 GMT 1
£275k with add ons is still a great deal!
Get him on the M5 a.s.a.p.
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Post by tvor on Aug 7, 2018 21:07:44 GMT 1
Who is Gary Wilson and what kind of credibility do his tweets have? If Pete O'Rourke had tweeted that it would certainly have been credible for example.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 21:10:26 GMT 1
So you get 4 paynes for a Nolan and 6-8 nolans for a Woods currently.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Aug 7, 2018 21:18:08 GMT 1
Who is Gary Wilson and what kind of credibility do his tweets have? If Pete O'Rourke had tweeted that it would certainly have been credible for example. Don't know it was retweeted by B&A Fanzine. Since it will officially be an "undisclosed fee" it's fairly academic anyway. More of interest.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 7, 2018 21:23:59 GMT 1
Certainly a bold strategy in play here. Best season in years = change the entire squad I look forward to see who the replacement is . Not really a strategy, last seasons key players either (a) came to the end of their loan (Henderson, Godfrey, C Morris), (b) jumped ship at the earliest opportunity after Hurst did one (Rodman, McGilivray, Ogogo) or (c) soon will do (Nolan, Nsiala, Payne). Once Hurst ****ed off last season was always going to be a bittersweet memory, rather than a platform to build on. I'm glad we're keeping Whalley, never saw Hendrie play well and as for Jones, well, who knows. More than happy to see how this squad shapes up over the coming weeks and months. Preferable to pointlessly pining over our old players.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Aug 7, 2018 21:26:57 GMT 1
Askey is on the FM database right now looking for a replacement.
Bristol Rovers fans are having a collective stroke over Payne arriving. Slightly over the top.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 7, 2018 21:27:03 GMT 1
Certainly a bold strategy in play here. Best season in years = change the entire squad I look forward to see who the replacement is . Not really a strategy, last seasons key players either (a) came to the end of their loan (Henderson, Godfrey, C Morris), (b) jumped ship at the earliest opportunity after Hurst did one (Rodman, McGilivray, Ogogo) or (c) soon will do (Nolan, Nsiala, Payne). Once Hurst ****ed off last season was always going to be a bittersweet memory, rather than a platform to build on. I'm glad we're keeping Whalley, never saw Hendrie play well and as for Jones, well, who knows. Slightly disappointed to see Bryn Morris farmed out, but difficukt to argue he was much more than a bit player last season. More than happy to see how this squad shapes up over the coming weeks and months. Preferable to pointlessly pining over our old players.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 7, 2018 21:39:56 GMT 1
Certainly a bold strategy in play here. Best season in years = change the entire squad I look forward to see who the replacement is . Not really a strategy, last seasons key players either (a) came to the end of their loan (Henderson, Godfrey, C Morris), (b) jumped ship at the earliest opportunity after Hurst did one (Rodman, McGilivray, Ogogo) or (c) soon will do (Nolan, Nsiala, Payne). Once Hurst ****ed off last season was always going to be a bittersweet memory, rather than a platform to build on. I'm glad we're keeping Whalley, never saw Hendrie play well and as for Jones, well, who knows. Slightly disappointed to see Bryn Morris farmed out, but difficukt to argue he was much more than a bit player last season. More than happy to see how this squad shapes up over the coming weeks and months. Preferable to pointlessly pining over our old players.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 7, 2018 21:44:44 GMT 1
You forgot Brown!
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 7, 2018 21:58:44 GMT 1
Not really a strategy, last seasons key players either (a) came to the end of their loan (Henderson, Godfrey, C Morris), (b) jumped ship at the earliest opportunity after Hurst did one (Rodman, McGilivray, Ogogo) or (c) soon will do (Nolan, Nsiala, Payne). Once Hurst ****ed off last season was always going to be a bittersweet memory, rather than a platform to build on. I'm glad we're keeping Whalley, never saw Hendrie play well and as for Jones, well, who knows. Slightly disappointed to see Bryn Morris farmed out, but difficukt to argue he was much more than a bit player last season. More than happy to see how this squad shapes up over the coming weeks and months. Preferable to pointlessly pining over our old players. Ah yes, who also ****ed off of his own volition!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 22:53:04 GMT 1
I wasn't going to come on here after this mornings news.
What a difference a week makes - the dismantling of a near promotion winning side - mark the date.
Is John Askey a Margaret Thatcher clone - selling all the saleable assets in site.
At least Town will be the richest side in League Two soon.
I only feel sorry for James Bolton and Omar Beckles for missing on on the John Askey Gravy Train - perhaps they will get their chance tomorrow.
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