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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 19:07:51 GMT 1
0/1 at Bet Victor now!!!!
Lets hope it doesn't backfire from here, as Victor reckons its a done deal!
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Post by wakemanender on Oct 22, 2016 21:37:22 GMT 1
Karl Robinson may be on brink of leaving MK Dons. He would be popular choice at town if Hurst deal not done and dusted.
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Post by block18shrew on Oct 23, 2016 12:34:40 GMT 1
LMAO at Grimsby fans saying before yesterday there was only 6 places between us and they are going up we are going down etc....After yesterday they are only 6 points off 22nd and want Hurst gone. Fickle or what.
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Post by shrewblue on Oct 23, 2016 12:43:13 GMT 1
Listening to Brian Caldwell in his post match interview i am summising that they will approach their alleged target and the associated parties one more time to try and sort out any sticking points probably yesterday evening and give them a deadline for an answer one way of the other by e.g. this morning. If the answer is negative or more stalling they will go on too their second choice...I believe based on his statement what Brian means by second choice is not the calibre of the second choice compared to the first but 'a different option' in the way the second choice might take the club forward compared to the first choice. Confused yet? I was
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 15:43:17 GMT 1
Listening to Brian Caldwell in his post match interview i am summising that they will approach their alleged target and the associated parties one more time to try and sort out any sticking points probably yesterday evening and give them a deadline for an answer one way of the other by e.g. this morning. If the answer is negative or more stalling they will go on too their second choice...I believe based on his statement what Brian means by second choice is not the calibre of the second choice compared to the first but 'a different option' in the way the second choice might take the club forward compared to the first choice. Confused yet? I was I am confused, surely we are onto our 2nd choice now with Hurst after the Archibald approach was rejected first up? So time to find out who the third choice is!!
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Post by salopstan on Oct 23, 2016 15:48:49 GMT 1
I believe we are actually on third choice First was Jackett, no matter what the club say I believe he was on our radar until Wednesday and a deal was being agreed. Then Archibald who turned us down. Now Hurst
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Post by northwestman on Oct 23, 2016 19:14:23 GMT 1
Perhaps they might rip up that 3 choices sheet now that Karl Robinson has become available.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Oct 23, 2016 19:20:07 GMT 1
Am I missing something here. He has managed Ilkeston, Boston and Grimsby. Why oh why are we even compenplating let alone speaking to him. Lack of ambition by CEO/Chairman.
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Post by champagneprince on Oct 23, 2016 19:30:17 GMT 1
Am I missing something here. He has managed Ilkeston, Boston and Grimsby. Why oh why are we even compenplating let alone speaking to him. Lack of ambition by CEO/Chairman. Roland thought he'd be cheap, until he realised that a compensation package would be due. Does anybody know how to do one of those Hitler parodies? It seems like the ideal situation!
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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Oct 23, 2016 20:27:39 GMT 1
As long as tweedle dee and tweedle dum from tinpot aren't in the frame for the job!
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Post by shrewd67 on Oct 23, 2016 20:31:56 GMT 1
Strong rumours from Grimsby that we've finally got Paul Hurst 👍
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Post by grimsbylad1 on Oct 23, 2016 20:36:05 GMT 1
Hello , Grimsby fan here so coming from our end you have finally secured Hursty down as your manager, we are really going miss his gems in the transfer windows but what will be will be, we wish him luck, because really he is going to need it, all the best for the rest of the season
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 20:36:13 GMT 1
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Oct 23, 2016 20:39:34 GMT 1
Am I missing something here. He has managed Ilkeston, Boston and Grimsby. Why oh why are we even compenplating let alone speaking to him. Lack of ambition by CEO/Chairman. Appears the current DNA has to include young, hungry, never been sacked and looking for a step up.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Oct 23, 2016 20:40:41 GMT 1
#1030signingtime maybe?
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Post by champagneprince on Oct 23, 2016 20:41:18 GMT 1
Hello , Grimsby fan here so coming from our end you have finally secured Hursty down as your manager, we are really going miss his gems in the transfer windows but what will be will be, we wish him luck, because really he is going to need it, all the best for the rest of the season We don't want him. We're happy being miserable.
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Post by grimsbylad1 on Oct 23, 2016 20:44:57 GMT 1
Hello , Grimsby fan here so coming from our end you have finally secured Hursty down as your manager, we are really going miss his gems in the transfer windows but what will be will be, we wish him luck, because really he is going to need it, all the best for the rest of the season We don't want him. We're happy being miserable. Am sure you'll have some happy times not sure how long like, no disrespect to you but I think think could be his first sacking when it goes wrong at your place
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Post by champagneprince on Oct 23, 2016 20:53:38 GMT 1
It can't get any worse really. He'll be inheriting a load of duds, with zero confidence, in a club rocking like a wooden raft on a stormy ocean.
He could well become a Town legend if he gets us out of this deep, deep mire we are in.
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Post by creature on Oct 23, 2016 21:08:59 GMT 1
He's got 31 games to get 41 points, that's a hell of an ask for any manager.
18 Sept - Tranmere sack Brabin - STFC on 7 points, played 8 6 Oct - Mellon leaves Town - STFC on 10 points, played 11
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Post by ipswichshrews on Oct 23, 2016 21:27:11 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:16:04 GMT 1
Their fans genuinely think its a backwards step for him, where have they been the last few years? Have they looked at the football pyramid whatsoever.
Even if we do go down this season, we'll be favourites to come straight back up and probably will, difference between League Two and League One is huge and we batter teams in that division, whereas Grimsby will probably float around in L2 now, I'm sure we've been in situations where we think were bigger then we are (expecting Jacket to sign?) but I'm puzzled Grimsby fans are that way inclined towards the move.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Oct 23, 2016 22:28:11 GMT 1
Even if we went down we still got deadwood on contracts....
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Post by shrewblue on Oct 23, 2016 22:32:21 GMT 1
Listening to Brian Caldwell in his post match interview i am summising that they will approach their alleged target and the associated parties one more time to try and sort out any sticking points probably yesterday evening and give them a deadline for an answer one way of the other by e.g. this morning. If the answer is negative or more stalling they will go on too their second choice...I believe based on his statement what Brian means by second choice is not the calibre of the second choice compared to the first but 'a different option' in the way the second choice might take the club forward compared to the first choice. Confused yet? I was I am confused, surely we are onto our 2nd choice now with Hurst after the Archibald approach was rejected first up? So time to find out who the third choice is!! Strictly speaking I don't think Archibald was actually interviewed and i was referring to our CEO and his statement that they had a final list of three, all he felt would be good choices. With Archibald I reckon we asked Partick if we could approach Archibald and what would the compo be and with him under contract until 2019 I think that was the end of that. Also I suspect Jackett may have been popped the question but it was clear by the time the interviews came he was not one of the final three our CEO referred too, so consequently I reckon if Hurst is the alleged number one we are on to the second one of their final list of three Confused now? I am trying to interpret BC's comments but then my grasp of the situation may be far apart from the facts which we all may never know may never know!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:33:09 GMT 1
Even if we went down we still got deadwood on contracts.... Under the right management with a few additions I'd still expect this team to go back up, big difference between the leagues, and hopefully we'll have the right man in charge.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:36:41 GMT 1
When you take over a club at rock bottom that's probably no bad thing for the incumbent as things can't possibly get any bl@@dy worse and that's true of us right now. Hurst is a fresh up and coming young manager who if somehow can knock us into good enough shape to keep us up he'll be a hero.
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Post by block18shrew on Oct 23, 2016 22:41:33 GMT 1
Hahahahaahahaaha best laugh I've had in ages.
Grimsby fans talking of Nigel Adkins, Steve Evans or Steve Cotterill going there next.
And I thought we were deluded early days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:47:21 GMT 1
Hate him if he is with the opposition but Steve Evans for us was always a better shout than the supposed incomer.
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Post by block18shrew on Oct 23, 2016 22:51:17 GMT 1
Evans wouldn't even have applied.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:59:12 GMT 1
Hate him if he is with the opposition but Steve Evans for us was always a better shout than the supposed incomer. I agree that Steve Evans would've been a good shout but I doubt we've even spoken to him and even if we did I bet he'd turn us down like Cotterill, Jackett. With that in mind we have to go for the next best thing and a hungry up and coming manager like Hurst fits the bill.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 23:05:17 GMT 1
Worth a read from the Fishy Forum
Paul Hurst, sadly in my period of watching Town, has been by far and away our most successful manager. He will leave the club in a position incomparably better than it was when he over. In my opinion we are forever indebted to him. My sentimental thoughts may not mirror across this forum but I didn’t give two hoots about how we got out of the doldrums that is non-league and I was perfectly happy to give Hursty this year at least. He seems to adapted quite well, we have almost totally carried over our Conference form, we can win away but can’t win at home and we seem to get punished for very little and then create a whole host of chances but fail to take any.
I do not begrudge Hursty’s stubbornness and his dealings with Podge and Arnold as he needed to show who was boss as he did with Thomas, Neilson, Brown and Mackreth. He has shown to be a terrific man manager as players as you never hear of any believable rifts in the dressing room as these things invariably creep out. I also admired his determinism on three occasions.
Firstly, when Shouty got the bullet, he could easily have walked out with him, and that decision seems to have benefitted him in the long run. The second was after the Halifax shenanigans. He was personally insulted with very prominent chants of “Hurst out” and “Hursty is a w*****”which was totally tasteless and uncalled for. I wouldn’t have criticised him in the slightest had he turned round and stuck two fingers up at us and said, “I’m not putting up with that lot”. Thirdly was after Braintree at home that was the lowest I’d ever been, I did begin to think Hursty’s teams were predictable and too many half clever managers had sussed him out. He proved us all wrong with a wonderfully executed tactical masterplan at Braintree, where we exhausted them with midfield dominance and then exploited that tiredness with pace on both flanks. Utter genius. We then completely dominated FGR at Wembley and were in no trouble bar a wonder goal and a ridiculous miss by Parkin.
He was in my opinion totally within his rights to come out with emotions running high and let everyone know how difficult it has been for him personally. He is a human being after all and we shouldn’t forget the amount of abuse he received, no matter how thick his skin, will eventually get through.
After the torrid decade we had endured and the particularly awful 2 years under Newell and then Woody, he and Shouty, came in and steadied the ship, we eventually started to show progress between seasons and he spotted some of the best players that some of us have seen at BP. McKeown, Pearson, Dis, Hearn, Amond, Toto, Arnold, the list goes on. We finally had a team that was evidently trying and played for the shirt and the badge. Then when Shouty left, our footballing style improved exponentially over the coming months and better players were brought in as players weren’t afraid to work for him and not that foul mouthed buffoon, Shouty.
Some of his decisions have been almost instinctively criticised. His decision to repeatedly play John Lewis, was correct, he offered lots to us and we benefitted from his tireless running and his footballing ability is indicative of a number of decisions he has taken. Perhaps the fact we played well at Braintree and Wembley with Monkhouse out the side wasn’t entirely unrelated. We will never know but I have my doubts. Against almost this entire forum’s expectation he achieved what he set out to. He guided us back to where we belong, he stopped the rot that could have continued and made the momentum alter to the other direction.
He has his faults, undoubtedly. He has prickly demeanour, and when things don’t suit he has a propensity to bite when he possibly shouldn’t. He seems unwilling for one reason or another to give a formation other than 4-4-2 an extended period. I personally believe, Comley and McAllister sitting with Bolarinwa, Vose and Chambers behind Bogle would create havoc in this league. He also never found an effective way to win games like yesterday but I’d rather have been better against good teams than poor ones.
But his pros certainly outweigh his cons. He has a ruthless streak, he didn’t mess about last year, he cleared out the dead wood and didn’t respond the Amond’s gamesmanship off the pitch. He can spot a player and he can set his teams up to be very effective away from home and he got us promoted. I have so many questions I want answering though.
Why Shrewsbury? What is wrong with us now? Why either Mr Fenty, Hursty, Shrewsbury or whoever has let this situation be played out like this? He will now leave with a cloud over him. Some of us were already ambivalent about him and some even want him gone. The concern I now have going forward is that we lost two key players to Hartlepool and a manager to Shrewsbury, is there somebody being too tight, i.e. Mr Fenty, or has he simply decided a change was better for him? Maybe it will be for everyone, someone like Adkins or Bignot could come in and guide us to the next level and hopefully cross paths with Shrewsbury next year.
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