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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 12:23:58 GMT 1
Would be great if the club realised that they have p**sed alot of the core STFC support off since moving. Have noticed that the more expensive seats in the East stand look less and less popular each season and the exec boxes also look quite empty....Why a lower divison club needs a black tie end of season do I just do not know! They can't make that much from it! Surely it would be better to have a all in one event scheduled for a Saturday after the season has ended or after the last home game, make it inclusive and affordable - surely more people would turn up and the club might actually make some money by having people using the limited facilities at the club for a change! Rather than having an empty function room - like it is within an hour of the final whistle at most games. Maybe the majority of people who cough up for season tickets aren't considered to be "ideal" customers by some at the club. As it stands both events are not ideal as they are midweek, one is just not supported by the club and the other is just too expensive! Good post! My annual "Vaguely serious" post
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Post by buryshrew on May 4, 2016 12:39:10 GMT 1
There's no way I could have made last night, but it makes no difference to the disappointment I feel in the club, because their non attendance gives a reflection of their lack of respect or appreciation for the 'non corporate' fan in general - and that includes me and mine. Good to know where you stand in the scheme of things.
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Post by scooter on May 4, 2016 12:50:27 GMT 1
Is the Staff v Supporters match happening this year ? Dont think so, never happened last year...... I'm not part of the ASFC anymore though so cant give a reason as to why (there were play on the pitch sessions last and this season so nothing to do with pitch I guess) Real shame as they were a highlight of the season for me over the last 10 years. i hadn't realised it didn't happen last year Many years ago there used to be a presentation night after that game
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 4, 2016 12:58:22 GMT 1
I do hope the "club" read this message board .
They serpently do! I'm led to believe it's avid reading.
Shirley that's a joke. The Community Officer wins an award for his work in the community, and can't be arsed to turn up!
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 13:02:46 GMT 1
Right letter sent to Brian Caldwell. I await a reply.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 4, 2016 13:09:55 GMT 1
Maybe the club officials are encouraged to stay away from this one, to give the expensive one more of a selling point?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 13:10:43 GMT 1
Just worked out that since 2010/11 our average attendance has dropped by nearly 9%!
When you think inside of that period the club has had 2 VERY enjoyable promotion seasons, with VERY popular managers, it goes to show something has to change....we have an aging supporter base, the 'new ground' effect has now firmly worn off,most people feel that the current stadium offers very little to average fans and in general it just feels like the club is not setup for L1 football or has any long term plans.
Very distressing.
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 13:13:49 GMT 1
Maybe the club officials are encouraged to stay away from this one, to give the expensive one more of a selling point? They should be going to both! Or some to one and some to the other.
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 13:15:00 GMT 1
I do hope the "club" read this message board .
They serpently do! I'm led to believe it's avid reading.
Shirley that's a joke. The Community Officer wins an award for his work in the community, and can't be arsed to turn up!
No joke I can assure you.
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Post by northwestman on May 4, 2016 13:25:43 GMT 1
The attendance of Club Officials at the black tie event at £500+ a table compared to the non-attendance of the aforementioned Officials at last night's event perfectly encapsulates the different approach taken to the corporate/Sovereign Club supporter compared to the rest of us.
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 13:35:57 GMT 1
Here is my letter and the reply. Credit to Mr. Caldwell for a prompt response but make of it what you will! Hi Sheila Many thanks for your email, i am always grateful for any feedback good or bad. Hopefully i can explain a little of the background to last night. I had spoken to Micky a few weeks ago to select a date that would be best for him and the players to be there. As it turned out he picked last night assuming with the game being on Sunday this week, players be off Monday and train Tuesday. However with the events at the weekend Micky decided to give the players extra time and he went to Blackpool to spend a few days with his family. I personally couldn’t make last night but with the intended date selected to suit Micky and the players being there i hadn’t thought that would be an issue but unfortunately due to the results at the weekend and the training plan changing this has affected everything. I had explained Micky’s situation to Chris Smith and Mike Davis but assume this message hasn’t been passed on. With regard to Jamie receiving an award, hopefully this was explained at the evening as Jamie came down with a sickness bug on Monday night as he was planning to be there until this affected him and he was off yesterday (and still off sick today) I do agree however that in future we need to learn from this and ensure there is a better turn out of Coaching staff and players. Regards Brian Brian Caldwell Chief Executive Shrewsbury Town FC Greenhous Meadow Oteley Road Shrewsbury SY2 6ST brian.caldwell@shrewsburytown.co.uk www.shrewsburytown.comwww.facebook.com/ShrewsburyTownFC/Twitter:@shrewsweb Tel: 01743 289177 Fax: 01743 246972 Dear Mr. Caldwell, I feel compelled to write to you regarding the fans' event yesterday evening. This is event is organised by the fans for the fans and involves quite a lot of hard work particularly on the part of one person, Chris Smith, who does a lot of work on behalf of the fans and also runs the Superblues Club, a fund raiser for the club. It was good to see quite a few of the players in attendance although three of the award winners were absent. One, I presume, had no choice as his home club had asked for his return. However, it was a pity that he couldn't stay to meet some very grateful supporters. Our captain and the others did outstanding jobs in collecting the awards for the absentees. However, my main reason for writing is the complete absence at the evening of any of the non playing staff. For the second year running, neither the manager nor his assistant were there and, I am sorry to say, neither were you. Last year, at least your predecessor was in attendance. Even a member of staff who was to receive an award was absent although the person sent in his place did an admirable job. Throughout this somewhat difficult season, we have been continually congratulated as fans for 'keeping the faith', supporting the manager, the club and the team, through thick and thin. Last night was the ideal opportunity for some of these words to be put into action and appreciation shown in person. Words mean absolutely nothing without the actions to follow them. The supporters who attended last night were the hard core home and away fans. Many of whom have travelled long distances and spent small fortunes to support our team. We are not the type of people to be rude to members of staff at a social function or to abuse them in any way. We all appreciate what a difficult season this has been. In my opinion, in the absence of an official club representative, it was quite appalling that our compère had to thank us all for the evening and the awards. Also, I presume that, as no member of staff was there to report on the event, they will be very little about it on Shrewsweb. Another sad oversight I feel. On a personal note, I would be very grateful if you would pass on my best wishes to Mickey Demitriou who, in spite of what I will call a not very good year, was there last night and picked up an award for an absentee. His manner, demeanour and the way he answered the questions put to him were very dignified and beyond reproach. He should have a good future when his football career is finished. He stayed talking to the fans and the children who were there. I wish him every success in the future. I am sorry to have to write in this vein, but you did tell us that, if you don't know about our concerns, you can't address them. Yours sincerely,
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 13:47:49 GMT 1
I have replied wishing Jamie well and saying that his illness was not explained last night.
I have also suggested that co-ordination should be better next year.
Comment not included in letter but my thoughts now:
Good job some of the players remembered there was a fans night even if the management didn't !!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 14:03:05 GMT 1
I have replied wishing Jamie well and saying that his illness was not explained last night. I have also suggested that co-ordination should be better next year. Comment not included in letter but my thoughts now: Good job some of the players remembered there was a fans night even if the management didn't !!!!!! Starting with having it on night where most of us are not working the next day Given that the club is starting to wake up to the fact it is not just the football club of the town but of the county a large, inclusive, accessible and affordable SOCIAL event would certainly attract supporters who live outside of the SY1 postcode. If nothing else it would help bridge the gap between playing staff and supporters, on the pitch at Cheltenham just over a year ago it felt like the club had changed and was more of a fan orientated club with a close knit group of players we felt attached too........12 months later and that seems a VERY long time ago. As stated before the club really are missing a trick - people WANT to spend money on STFC!
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 14:11:32 GMT 1
Quite a few players there but not all. No manager, assistant manager, chief exec, director or chairman though. Ryan thanked the fans on behalf of the club but I think he expected a club rep there to do it. The players who were there were great though. Second year running with no sign of MM which considering he thinks we are all great supporters is a tad disappointing. He was probably at home dusting himself down. It would appear you are correct!!!
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Post by northwestman on May 4, 2016 14:29:59 GMT 1
My interpretation of Mr Caldwell's response is as follows:-
1. He is hiding behind a perceived lack of communication between the Club and the fans. He seems to be blaming Chris Smith and Mike Davis for not explaining the reason for MM's absence, and persons unknown for not communicating with the fans with regard to Jamie's non-attendance on health grounds. As ssshrew has rightly pointed out to him, co-ordination must be better than this.
2. MM knew of the date of this meeting as it had been selected by him. To at the last minute arbitrarily abandon his commitment to attend in order to spend a few days with his family is a poor response to the fans to say the least. And what's MJ's excuse?
3. Mr Caldwell says that he 'personally couldn't make last night' but neglects to furnish us with an explanation as to why this was the case. As a newly appointed CEO I would have thought that meeting the fans at a function like this should be high on the priority list.
4. No mention whatsoever as to the non-attendance of RW or James Hughes. But everyone more or less accepts that as the norm anyway. However, I expect both were prominent at the black tie function.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 15:51:31 GMT 1
No one likes him?
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Post by davycrockett on May 4, 2016 15:59:03 GMT 1
What a load of tosh....
The date was set to suit MM...... As we're now safe he decided to give the players an extra day-off (even though they don't deserve it) and take an extra day off himself and go home to Blackpool putting two fingers up to the fans in the way!
What about Roland ?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 16:24:34 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know?
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Post by lenny on May 4, 2016 16:34:38 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know?
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Post by alex1993 on May 4, 2016 16:47:49 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know? Don't let KL8 know your on here. I can feel this going a bit west. How does Mike Davies let the fan base down?
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 4, 2016 16:51:19 GMT 1
Mr Caldwell's excuses remind me of 'the dog ate my homework'.
There were remarks on the congratulations to Leicester thread to the effect that having foreign owners and lots of money wasn't real football. The inference being that clubs like ours are 'real'.
Having a local man owning the club, a situation in which the fans make a significant contribution to the continued existence of the club via gate money, fundrasing and volunteering their time to help appears to make no difference to the attitude of the owner and his staff towards the fans.
Makes me wonder where reality lies.
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Post by davycrockett on May 4, 2016 17:04:01 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know? I'll try and explain... MM asked for suitable date so he can attend fans presentation night with players........ Date chosen and event planned....... No more than 2 days before, MM decides to give the players and himself time off and make himself unavailable - you say they deserve a rest many won't agree.... fans upset that no 'staff' or other club representatives were present despite a full turnout for the 'Black Tie' do 48 hrs before... PS why weren't the OSC told?
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Post by DiglisShrew on May 4, 2016 17:11:17 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know?Wind up me You are the wind up merchant !!! You are the wind up merchant !!!!
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 4, 2016 17:11:20 GMT 1
It's not the club's fault. Unfortunately, the date of the presentation was "undisclosed".
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 17:14:41 GMT 1
And even if it is agreed about the extra day, having said he would attend, it was MM's responsibility to get someone from the club to stand in for him at an event organised and attended by the very same fans he has been saying are so wonderful all season.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 17:21:36 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know?Wind up me You are the wind up merchant !!! You are the wind up merchant !!!! [br I'm not winding anyone up. It's a legitimate question. Osc and superblues give a lot of money to the club why do others get involved.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 17:27:58 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. They can have as much rest as they want from 3pm next Sunday
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 4, 2016 17:32:17 GMT 1
The night was organised by the Osc and super blues.... Nothing to do with the SP other than at the last minute we wanted to present a trophy.
Not sure it's all that good for Brian to name names of fans he's talked to. For all we know he said it to who ever but then it's always difficult for people to know what they can and can't say without the club going mental.
For me though if the organiser knew that Micky was not coming then it's 2016 it's not hard to get e message out to people is it? Also I would add though chris smith was ill yesterday and missed the event the first time he's done so for like decades I believe... So cut the guys some slack on that.
Fact reimagines the organised it on the best date for the club and it all went tits up, hardly the fans fault that....
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Post by ssshrew on May 4, 2016 17:34:58 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. They can have as much rest as they want from 3pm next Sunday Must admit that thought crossed my mind too.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 18:37:06 GMT 1
personally not sure what everyone's problem is players were given time off and after a tough season the manager deserves a rest. Seems the club made the relevant parties aware and it's their fault no one was told. Think the osc and superblues have done everything they could. Can I ask who Mike Davies is? I know he's not osc but if he's a fan rep he should have let people know the manager wasn't attending. Sick of people like this letting the fan base down. Is he on here? If so what's his excuse for not letting people know? If, as you claim, you really are in the OSC, then you'll know who Mike Davies is.
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