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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 17:14:43 GMT 1
Christ, steady on. And what's your Status say? "My first team is..: my only team and that is Shrewsbury Town FC" About time you amended that? Salop are my only team, unfortunately it appears as though they don't want me unless I am prepared to buy a season ticket or cough up pretty much every penny of my disposable income every other week. Family life doesn't work like that, I can't or won't commit to go to every game and I certainly will not put 90 minutes of my life ahead of my family. If that makes me less of a supporter, so be it. I'm not the one choosing to walk away, the club are the ones continually putting barriers in my way. I've tolerated every barrier since the move; the location, the having to sit, the lack of parking, the shoddy attitude, the dire atmosphere caused by the ticketing policy, the price increases, the stewarding, the food, the distaste shown to us the very lifeblood of the club by the owners and certain employees and even the bloody logo. There are only so many things that I'll put up with and I'm getting very close to the point of walking away. We are football supporters and a captive audience that won't walk away and choose another club to support, so why are we continually treated as bloody customers? If Asda treat me wrong I'll go to Tesco or Sainsburys, if MY club treat me wrong where can I go? Telford, Wolves? No chance too much history and hatred. Drayton, Shifnal, Wellington Amatuers? No thanks, it'd be like going from a nearly new Focus to a 15 year old Daewoo Matiz. I don't want to go to watch Villa, but if I fancy going to a game of football and they make it affordable and make me welcome, while Shrewsbury don't, can you really blame me? Simple plan to avoid using all your disposable income to watch Salop. Give up smoking !!!!
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jul 9, 2014 17:34:13 GMT 1
The Villa? You'd hate it Neil. Stay with Salop and help fight for a more realistic matchday price. I feel let down by this as well. I've been talking to a guy who used to support Salop regularly, but who stopped coming. After much persuasion, he said he'd start coming again and bring his son. Wait until he sees the prices.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 19:12:42 GMT 1
Right so am I to understand that ST’s, sovereign and hospitality are all lumped under – err – season tickets?
If so it would be really interesting to know which one of those three separate packages is actually underselling.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 9, 2014 20:26:07 GMT 1
Right so am I to understand that ST’s, sovereign and hospitality are all lumped under – err – season tickets? If so it would be really interesting to know which one of those three separate packages is actually underselling. When the 5 years of sovereign club came to an end we were definitely told the numbers of new recruits were similar
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Post by owdlad on Jul 10, 2014 0:13:48 GMT 1
I remember years ago an old boy saying, of STFC, that nobody wants to see a losing team. What he meant was that when the team was doing well, the hard core of fans would be boosted by casual supporters. Can't see many takers at £23-£25.
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 10, 2014 7:38:43 GMT 1
assume this includes free parking and beans on toast with the chairman and a conducted tour of the urinals.
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Post by shrewder on Jul 10, 2014 8:22:11 GMT 1
If fans want a successful team ,then you can't get that for peanuts.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 10, 2014 9:15:04 GMT 1
assume this includes free parking and beans on toast with the chairman and a conducted tour of the urinals. They used to get a packet of custard creams on a silver (stainless steel) tray at the GM so beans on toast is a great improvement... Must be down to the chef
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 10, 2014 9:18:33 GMT 1
Right so am I to understand that ST’s, sovereign and hospitality are all lumped under – err – season tickets? If so it would be really interesting to know which one of those three separate packages is actually underselling. Does it say hospitality anywhere? would have thought it should include ant fans ticket that entitles entry to all league matches I.e. STH and Sovereign members a,though I see that the later includes cup matches as well ....
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 9:24:51 GMT 1
If fans want a successful team ,then you can't get that for peanuts. No one is suggesting the club charge peanuts.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 9:40:41 GMT 1
As an exile, I am now more likely to go to more away games than home. Yeah, me too I reckon. Although the club won't be losing out on too much as I only attend games when I am back at Christmas. I guess for me the club have just come to the conclusion that the type of casual supporter who might take a game in every now and then are so few in number that it really won't hurt too much to ask for 23 note (I guess they think it'll make us money in the long run). Perhaps those that will bite the bullet and pay 23 will more than make up for those that won't do. Whether that will be the case who knows. Might price one or two out though, might upset and alienate others who will just refuse to pay that amount and it might deter people from just popping down to see a game (and thus we lose the chance of gaining new support). But like I say, maybe so low in numbers it's no big issue for the club. But Xmas rather than taking in Morecambe and Wycombe at home I'll take in Burton and Oxford away. How many others will do the same sort of thing who knows, be interesting to see how it pans out though...
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 10, 2014 9:47:08 GMT 1
Had a bit more information on the 5 flexi ticket deal.
You buy this and get five vouchers which can be redeemed at and five games of your choice this season.
I think there is still more detail needed on this and will be forthcoming, I.E if it gets to the end of the season and you have games left on your flexi and we are going for the league and its looking like a sell out...how is that managed! Presumably the club would have to hold back all the seats that might "potentially be used" by pre sold flexis when these people might not go (I guess that's the same as ST holders).
In essence it could be a way of being guaranteed a ticket for an all ticket game without having a ST?
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 10, 2014 9:47:29 GMT 1
As an exile, I am now more likely to go to more away games than home. Yeah, me too I reckon. Although the club won't be losing out on too much as I only attend games when I am back at Christmas. I guess for me the club have just come to the conclusion that the type of casual supporter who might take a game in every now and then are so few in number that it really won't hurt too much to ask for 23 note (I guess they think it'll make us money in the long run). Perhaps those that will bite the bullet and pay 23 will more than make up for those that won't do. Whether that will be the case who knows. Might price one or two out though, might upset and alienate others who will just refuse to pay that amount and it might deter people from just popping down to see a game (and thus we lose the chance of gaining new support). But like I say, maybe so low in numbers it's no big issue for the club. But Xmas rather than taking in Morecambe and Wycombe at home I'll take in Burton and Oxford away. How many others will do the same sort of thing who knows, be interesting to see how it pans out though... Are you honestly saying you'd come back at Christmas and not go due to the £3 extra? If true that's a real shame
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Post by Uncle_Monkey on Jul 10, 2014 9:53:50 GMT 1
I'm not the one choosing to walk away, the club are the ones continually putting barriers in my way. I've tolerated every barrier since the move; the location, the having to sit, the lack of parking, the shoddy attitude, the dire atmosphere caused by the ticketing policy, the price increases, the stewarding, the food, the distaste shown to us the very lifeblood of the club by the owners and certain employees and even the bloody logo Apart from that, everything just peachy though? Just dunner go to the Villa mon, you wunner like it...
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 10, 2014 9:54:17 GMT 1
As an exile, I am now more likely to go to more away games than home. Yeah, me too I reckon. Although the club won't be losing out on too much as I only attend games when I am back at Christmas. I guess for me the club have just come to the conclusion that the type of casual supporter who might take a game in every now and then are so few in number that it really won't hurt too much to ask for 23 note (I guess they think it'll make us money in the long run). Perhaps those that will bite the bullet and pay 23 will more than make up for those that won't do. Whether that will be the case who knows. Might price one or two out though, might upset and alienate others who will just refuse to pay that amount and it might deter people from just popping down to see a game (and thus we lose the chance of gaining new support). But like I say, maybe so low in numbers it's no big issue for the club. But Xmas rather than taking in Morecambe and Wycombe at home I'll take in Burton and Oxford away. How many others will do the same sort of thing who knows, be interesting to see how it pans out though... Stutty if you turn up on the day to Oxford away you will pay 22.50 to get in + Petrol getting there... Is it really worth saying you would rather do that than pay 50p more to go to the home game over Christmas? That makes literally no seance to me! You would be significantly out of pocket? Burton makes more sense, its not far and significantly cheaper mind.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 10:00:12 GMT 1
Yeah, me too I reckon. Although the club won't be losing out on too much as I only attend games when I am back at Christmas. I guess for me the club have just come to the conclusion that the type of casual supporter who might take a game in every now and then are so few in number that it really won't hurt too much to ask for 23 note (I guess they think it'll make us money in the long run). Perhaps those that will bite the bullet and pay 23 will more than make up for those that won't do. Whether that will be the case who knows. Might price one or two out though, might upset and alienate others who will just refuse to pay that amount and it might deter people from just popping down to see a game (and thus we lose the chance of gaining new support). But like I say, maybe so low in numbers it's no big issue for the club. But Xmas rather than taking in Morecambe and Wycombe at home I'll take in Burton and Oxford away. How many others will do the same sort of thing who knows, be interesting to see how it pans out though... Stutty if you turn up on the day to Oxford away you will pay 22.50 to get in + Petrol getting there... Is it really worth saying you would rather do that than pay 50p more to go to the home game over Christmas? That makes literally no seance to me! You would be significantly out of pocket? Burton makes more sense, its not far and significantly cheaper mind. I thought Oxford were about 18 notes? Oh well, looks as though its just Burton away for me then...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 10:07:33 GMT 1
Yeah, me too I reckon. Although the club won't be losing out on too much as I only attend games when I am back at Christmas. I guess for me the club have just come to the conclusion that the type of casual supporter who might take a game in every now and then are so few in number that it really won't hurt too much to ask for 23 note (I guess they think it'll make us money in the long run). Perhaps those that will bite the bullet and pay 23 will more than make up for those that won't do. Whether that will be the case who knows. Might price one or two out though, might upset and alienate others who will just refuse to pay that amount and it might deter people from just popping down to see a game (and thus we lose the chance of gaining new support). But like I say, maybe so low in numbers it's no big issue for the club. But Xmas rather than taking in Morecambe and Wycombe at home I'll take in Burton and Oxford away. How many others will do the same sort of thing who knows, be interesting to see how it pans out though... Are you honestly saying you'd come back at Christmas and not go due to the £3 extra? If true that's a real shame Yeah, sure. I just can't justify paying that amount and I simply don't want to encourage it either. 23 pounds for 4th division football is just too much. I appreciate people will say it's just a few more quid, the cost of a pint etc. but I don't enjoy being ripped off. And that's the very feeling I'd get if I was paying that at a turnstile come December down the Meadow.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 10, 2014 10:08:36 GMT 1
Its an extra 2.50 on the day Stutty. If you buy in advance you can get it cheaper.
For all you know one of the home games over crimbo might be one of the four where we can offer ticekt deals. In fairness it likely to be with people off work, back home for Christmas? You might get lucky.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jul 10, 2014 10:21:29 GMT 1
You can say it's just an extra £2.50, but that's a lot - over a 10% surcharge for paying on the day. I think I'd be inclined to take the same approach as Stutty because it is a matter of principle. £23 is a rip-off. People don't like being ripped off. Twenty is plenty.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 10:25:10 GMT 1
Its an extra 2.50 on the day Stutty. If you buy in advance you can get it cheaper. For all you know one of the home games over crimbo might be one of the four where we can offer ticekt deals. In fairness it likely to be with people off work, back home for Christmas? You might get lucky. I guess I missed that. Have the club mentioned some offers will be available for one or two game? Where was that posted? Good news if so (whether for me or not)...
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jul 10, 2014 10:32:20 GMT 1
I think they can offer ticket deals whenever they like, as long as they offer the same deal to away fans. The thing Glyn mentions about four deals is the bit in the football league ticket price rules that allows for special offers for home fans only I guess. Don't recall STFC having said they are planning to have those special deals, though I hope that they do.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 10, 2014 10:32:57 GMT 1
Each season the club get to have four matches where they can offer ticket deals that differ from the regular match day price (its an FL rule I think) they have another 4 where they do it for away fans too. The club will be taking advantage of this for sure.
What matches they do at we don’t know, but would guess Crimbos a decent time to try and bring people in through the gate?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 10:38:53 GMT 1
Ah I'm with you. Thanks for the clarification chaps...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 10:39:10 GMT 1
Stutty if you turn up on the day to Oxford away you will pay 22.50 to get in + Petrol getting there... Is it really worth saying you would rather do that than pay 50p more to go to the home game over Christmas? That makes literally no seance to me! You would be significantly out of pocket? Burton makes more sense, its not far and significantly cheaper mind. I thought Oxford were about 18 notes? Oh well, looks as though its just Burton away for me then... So Stitty the cost of all that travel, plus you make a rare visit to the uk and for the sake of £3 plus you feel you need to make a point. I am not keen on this price increase like everyone else, but given you are visiting the uk only you are losing out doing this, and for someone who appears to be quite an intelligent articulate chap, is very surprising!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 10:45:42 GMT 1
Added to the Oxford/Burton equation. Parking was free at the former and £2 at the latter. Both at the ground last time I went.
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Post by WATR on Jul 10, 2014 10:48:57 GMT 1
People need to stop thinking in terms of the extra "couple of quid" (£7) and consider the total, £23, which is an extortionate amount of money for a game of fourth division football.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2014 10:52:35 GMT 1
I thought Oxford were about 18 notes? Oh well, looks as though its just Burton away for me then... So Stitty the cost of all that travel, plus you make a rare visit to the uk and for the sake of £3 plus you feel you need to make a point. I am not keen on this price increase like everyone else, but given you are visiting the uk only you are losing out doing this, and for someone who appears to be quite an intelligent articulate chap, is very surprising! Yeah, I just think 23 pounds is too much and I don't feel comfortable paying that. Anyhows, I'm sure it won't be many thinking the same. Plenty of others will still go...
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Post by WATR on Jul 10, 2014 11:18:48 GMT 1
You won't be the only one Stutty, the thing is most people who don't go to games regularly won't bother kicking up a fuss, they'll just quietly slip away never to be seen again at an STFC game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 11:34:21 GMT 1
Next Season's will make interesting reading:Perhaps having plenty of ''Localish'' and 1 particularly big Club's helped boost our rating considering the most important factors? www.fsf.org.uk/assets/Downloads/News/2014/Away-Fans-Survey-League-Tables.pdf By Road I think Burton's might be our closest next Season but by Train it's easier for them to get to plenty of other Ground's other than ours.For the rest of the Division this will be exaggerated. So when a Fan is deciding where to go we are already loosing out on 3 of the 4 main factors that are beyond the Club's control,so STFC have decided to make their(Fan's) mind up by the factor they have most control of. A good Season with plenty of ''must wins''looks to be more essential than ever,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 11:36:03 GMT 1
People need to stop thinking in terms of the extra "couple of quid" (£7) and consider the total, £23, which is an extortionate amount of money for a game of fourth division football. It's the removal of Kid's for a quid that annoys me the most especially now we have to pay an extra charge for the privilege of paying more!!
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