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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 22:32:09 GMT 1
I see that Crystal Palace have changed their badge. Click here.
They've modernised their old crest in line with commercial requirements. Their co-chairman has publicly recognised how important it is to create a badge which "keeps the heritage of the past".
Makes our clip art effort seem even more embarrassing when you see the lengths other clubs have gone to.
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Post by markglasgow on May 7, 2013 22:41:01 GMT 1
Interesting. It is strange however, that they updated the eagle but other elements of the badge seem more 'traditional' than it's predecessor.
Be interesting to see how the fans react. Shouldn't upset too many though.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 22:48:36 GMT 1
Shouldn't upset too many though. Agreed. It would have been interesting to note their fans' reaction if CPFC had unveiled a new standalone logo featuring an animal with no connection to their club's identity, e.g. a raccoon or a walrus.
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Post by horse01 on May 7, 2013 22:51:11 GMT 1
Fair play to them, I think the new badge looks pretty edgy, classy yet contemporary at the same time!! A good effort
Wouldn't be disappointed if I was a Palace fan. However, I'm not, so perhaps they won't have a similar opinion of it as I do?!
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Post by weLoveclippy on May 8, 2013 7:26:36 GMT 1
I see that Crystal Palace have changed their badge. Click here.
They've modernised their old crest in line with commercial requirements. Their co-chairman has publicly recognised how important it is to create a badge which "keeps the heritage of the past".
Makes our clip art effort seem even more embarrassing when you see the lengths other clubs have gone to. **** me you're a bore !!! Its a ****in badge on a football shirt - get a life !!! Tell me , how many of the regular Town fans signed your little petition ?? Answer - WELL UNDER 50% Face it most fans don't give a flying a **** - I bet the numbers buying the new shirt, as opposed to you little badge Fascists boycotting it, will tell the true story. Its called democracy pal !! Ever heard of democracy ????
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Post by jackyt87 on May 8, 2013 7:38:18 GMT 1
Looks like you have been told KL8! Ha ha!
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Post by Valerioch on May 8, 2013 7:40:36 GMT 1
I give a s**t
Clip art is a disgrace and doesn't represent Shrewsbury Town.
Makes me wonder just what our happy clapper supporters will take before actually doing something
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Post by mysticmurray on May 8, 2013 7:45:26 GMT 1
Its called democracy pal !! Ever heard of democracy ? Freedom of speech is an inseparable element of democracy. Although shouting loudest does not necessarily mean you're right.
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Post by weLoveclippy on May 8, 2013 7:56:15 GMT 1
Its called democracy pal !! Ever heard of democracy ???? Freedom of speech is an inseparable element of democracy. Although shouting loudest does not necessarily mean you're right. It also means majority rule, and the badge Fascists are most definitely in a minority as their own (no longer quoted ) petition numbers show !!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 8, 2013 8:18:00 GMT 1
From what I have read whenever some club has looked to change the club's badge each and every one of them has talked about the clubs history and heritage. Every single club except ours. A clip art that has nothing whatsoever to do with the history or heritage of our club. Schade schade.
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Post by greeny on May 8, 2013 8:18:42 GMT 1
Freedom of speech is an inseparable element of democracy. Although shouting loudest does not necessarily mean you're right. It also means majority rule, and the badge Fascists are most definitely in a minority as their own (no longer quoted ) petition numbers show !!! A majority decision isn't the people at the top deciding on something without consulting anybody and then failing to have any sort of referendum on it when many people disagree with it. When the badge first came in there weren't many who liked it, people have just grown to accept it now. You can't take any sort of reading from an online petition, until there are people at the ground on a match day walking around with a hard copy of that petition nobody knows the true majorities opinion. Especially not some upstart who is just trying to cause a stir on here.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 8, 2013 8:21:28 GMT 1
Its a ****in badge on a football shirt - get a life !!! No, it's much more than that...
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 8, 2013 8:47:32 GMT 1
It also means majority rule, and the badge Fascists are most definitely in a minority as their own (no longer quoted ) petition numbers show !!! All that shows is that you know nothing about statistics. If Tesco had 25% of their customers ask for something what do you think they would do? The fact is some people hate the current badge, and some people don't mind either way. A miniscule amount actually prefer the new badge. So why are we continuing to irritate those who do care, and counting those who don't care either way as being against them?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 8, 2013 8:51:27 GMT 1
You can't take any sort of reading from an online petition, until there are people at the ground on a match day walking around with a hard copy of that petition nobody knows the true majorities opinion. That's simply not true. 80% of UK households have internet access - every education establishment, and most places of work, probably more in a place like Shrewsbury. To get over a thousand signatures in a few days during the close season showed a massive groundswell of public opinion. The idea of having to walk around with a clip board to find out what people really think is just nonsense. Might have been right in 1980, but not now.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 9:10:10 GMT 1
Makes our clip art effort seem even more embarrassing when you see the lengths other clubs have gone to.
**** me you're a bore !!! Its a ****in badge on a football shirt - get a life !!! Tell me , how many of the regular Town fans signed your little petition ?? Answer - WELL UNDER 50% Face it most fans don't give a flying a **** - I bet the numbers buying the new shirt, as opposed to you little badge Fascists boycotting it, will tell the true story. Its called democracy pal !! Feel free to sign into your account and we can have a proper debate on the badge issue. You wouldn't stand a chance.
1200+ signatures (and counting) is a massive chunk of Shrewsbury Town fans with regular internet access. Think about it in terms of B&A - how many frequent contributors are there? 50? 100? Disregard the number of noble signatories at your peril! God only knows how large the figure would be if the petition was carried out in person at the stadium. We'd run out of paper.
I completely agree that there will be many fans out there who do not care about the club's identity at all and are only interested in on-the-pitch affairs. I remember one chap on Twitter claiming that he wouldn't really mind if STFC changed its badge to a picture of a cartoon kettle as " da players are more important" or something. It's a modern football attitude which is sadly all too common in these dark days.
However, there are undoubtedly many hundreds of Town fans with a strong preference for the return of the club's true badge. If people genuinely don't care, then surely they'll have no objection when the Loggerheads return once and for all.
As for the new shirt sales, I'm sure hundreds will end up buying it (mainly for children I expect) but sales will definitely be down compared to the previous version. I'd also suggest that purchasing a shirt doesn't necessarily make you in favour of the club's current badge: many will simply buy it out of habit or with the intention of boosting club coffers. Good luck to them.
Ultimately there has never been a single reasonable argument put forward in defence of the club's current badge. We deserve better than clip art.
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Post by Historian on May 8, 2013 9:23:43 GMT 1
KL8 you are becoming the Nigel Farage of B&A only interested in a single issue. It is becoming really boring.
As a student of history you should realise that heritage should be in a museum and legends in Madame Tussards.
Time to move on far more important issues to be dealt with between now and August.
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Post by Historian on May 8, 2013 9:24:08 GMT 1
KL8 you are becoming the Nigel Farage of B&A only interested in a single issue. It is becoming really boring.
As a student of history you should realise that heritage should be in a museum and legends in Madame Tussards.
Time to move on far more important issues to be dealt with between now and August.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 9:26:07 GMT 1
It also means majority rule, and the badge Fascists are most definitely in a minority as their own (no longer quoted ) petition numbers show !!! People have just grown to accept it now. No they haven't.
The most powerful thing about the badge protest was its timing. For years club officials (and their apologists) had patronisingly told us that we'd eventually "warm to the new logo" after a successful season or two. The petition went viral only days after we'd won promotion to League One. That should tell you everything. The clip art badge will never be accepted.
My motive is not solely to "cause a stir" on here either. If the club did the right thing and reinstated our true emblem, my badge-related postings would stop.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 9:28:52 GMT 1
Time to move on far more important issues to be dealt with between now and August. As a football fan there will never be a more important issue to me than the club's identity, of which the badge forms a significant part.
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Post by onthepitch on May 8, 2013 9:31:06 GMT 1
Clippy looks more like a primary school football teams badge than that of a pro club!
A terminally ill looking lion that hopefully won't be around much longer!!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 9:49:27 GMT 1
Its summer time and college boy is off again about the council badge.
The new season cannot come fast enough for me
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Post by DF on May 8, 2013 9:49:54 GMT 1
This is why we NEED guests on this board - to allow people too cowardly to put their own recognised name against an unpopular viewpoint and make their views heard (and admittedly then laughed at - clearly clueless on how statistics and polls etc. are calculated).
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 8, 2013 9:53:22 GMT 1
This is why we NEED guests on this board - to allow people too cowardly to put their own recognised name against an unpopular viewpoint and make their views heard (and admittedly then laughed at - clearly clueless on how statistics and polls etc. are calculated). True. And for the life of me I still don't understand people coming on here saying it's boring, stop talking about, give it a rest...when they can clearly just avoid the thread. If it's of no interest to them then move along, nothing to see here. Strange folk some.
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Post by onthepitch on May 8, 2013 9:58:44 GMT 1
I wanna live like common people. I wanna do whatever common people do. I wanna live like common people, Common people like you... Didn't Mr Farage do quite well recently though... A voice for the common people at long last... And besides another B&A user has snapped up the Nige' avatar...
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Post by alex1993 on May 8, 2013 10:09:52 GMT 1
The loggerheads identifies not only our club but our town. You walk round and see how many signs include the loggerheads. The Shrewsbury Hotel has a new sign and they've chosen the Loggerheads because that identifies what town they're in.
It's brilliant KL8 and the rest of the guys are merchandising again and I'm sure one day the club will restore the badge to its rightful place.
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Post by Historian on May 8, 2013 10:31:47 GMT 1
Time to move on far more important issues to be dealt with between now and August. As a football fan there will never be a more important issue to me than the club's identity, of which the badge forms a significant part.
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Post by Historian on May 8, 2013 10:36:38 GMT 1
KL8 I wonder how many Town fans agree with you that the badge is the key issue that Team Roland should be addressing, I would suspect that most Town fans would expect them to be concentrating on getting a team for next season that wont struggle and on identifying ways of significantly increasing the club revenue.
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Post by mightyshrew on May 8, 2013 10:36:48 GMT 1
If a new badge was designed then I'd be prepared to take a look at it but... it must have a cartoon kettle incorporated in there somehow ha ha
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 10:53:38 GMT 1
and on identifying ways of significantly increasing the club revenue. You want STFC to receive increased revenue? Restore the Loggerheads and watch the sales of merchandise go through the roof.
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Post by Historian on May 8, 2013 11:11:12 GMT 1
and on identifying ways of significantly increasing the club revenue. You want STFC to receive increased revenue? Restore the Loggerheads and watch the sales of merchandise go through the roof. Be realistic KL8 one extra shirt sold will equate approximately to one extra bum on a seat for one game in terms of pounds in the club coffers. Or put it another way the club would have needed to sell roughly 10,000 shirts to generate the fee we got for Collins. I'm afraid you are clutching at straws.
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