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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 30, 2024 19:06:15 GMT 1
it only spins because some of our cancel culture fans are constantly spinning them so fast in order to create a 'vortex' like vacuum to suck our their latest target It's quite funny to think that we as fans have any impact whatsoever on the comings & goings at the football club (with the exception of a manager and even then, the impact is limited) Did we have anything to do with Delves, Caldwell, Hughes, Cotterill etc leaving? I don't think so! We don't need to look too far as to who was closing the door on them and others over the last few years.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 30, 2024 19:16:32 GMT 1
It's quite funny to think that we as fans have any impact whatsoever on the comings & goings at the football club (with the exception of a manager and even then, the impact is limited) It is funny. And the more wee drams you have the funnier it becomes dont let us stop you enjoying them
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Post by Pilch on Apr 30, 2024 19:22:11 GMT 1
it only spins because some of our cancel culture fans are constantly spinning them so fast in order to create a 'vortex' like vacuum to suck our their latest target It's quite funny to think that we as fans have any impact whatsoever on the comings & goings at the football club (with the exception of a manager and even then, the impact is limited) didn't the fans save ricketts job when he was about to make a sub once* *according to some, agreed by many
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Post by Pilch on Apr 30, 2024 19:24:09 GMT 1
It's quite funny to think that we as fans have any impact whatsoever on the comings & goings at the football club (with the exception of a manager and even then, the impact is limited) Did we have anything to do with Delves, Caldwell, Hughes, Cotterill etc leaving? I don't think so! We don't need to look too far as to who was closing the door on them and others over the last few years. no idea what your point is ?
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 30, 2024 19:31:48 GMT 1
Did we have anything to do with Delves, Caldwell, Hughes, Cotterill etc leaving? I don't think so! We don't need to look too far as to who was closing the door on them and others over the last few years. no idea what your point is ? That a lot of the revolving door has nothing whatsoever to do with the fans, we just have too look on in amazement/despair...take your pick!
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Post by Pilch on Apr 30, 2024 19:43:39 GMT 1
no idea what your point is ? That a lot of the revolving door has nothing whatsoever to do with the fans, we just have too look on in amazement/despair...take your pick! has does it compare to other business's over a 30 year period ?
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Post by dibblydobbly on Apr 30, 2024 20:30:26 GMT 1
no idea what your point is ? That a lot of the revolving door has nothing whatsoever to do with the fans, we just have too look on in amazement/despair...take your pick! Cotterill was manager for how long, two and half years Caldwell was in post for over seven years Hughes was a director for what, 13 years. Delves was heavily involved for over five years and a director for three Pritchard was effective head of finance for over eight years. Whilst I accept there was wholesale change at a senior level in the last year, if anything some of those above may have been around too long, rather than part of a "revolving door". A little change is good normally - Liam is a great example of what a new gace and fresh ideas can do. Anyway, I will shut up now, see what the bbc say: www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210608-why-a-revolving-door-of-team-members-is-fuel-for-success:-)
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Post by jamo on Apr 30, 2024 21:15:38 GMT 1
Caldwell was in post for over seven years Hughes was a director for what, 13 years. Delves was heavily involved for over five years and a director for three Pritchard was effective head of finance for over eight years. Whilst I accept there was wholesale change at a senior level in the last year, if anything some of those above may have been around too long, rather than part of a "revolving door". A little change is good normally - Liam is a great example of what a new gace and fresh ideas can do. Anyway, I will shut up now, see what the bbc say: www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210608-why-a-revolving-door-of-team-members-is-fuel-for-success:-) Good article that, thanks for posting. I think this point in it is well made- But while excessive instability can be disruptive, a little bit of disruption can also bring positive benefits. Yep. That’s all it’s been. A little bit of disruption
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Post by Pilch on Apr 30, 2024 21:20:41 GMT 1
Especially if it's a figment of someone's imagination 😝😝😝
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Post by staffordshrew on May 1, 2024 0:30:48 GMT 1
I think you misunderstood, the lions are the vociferous fans, both at matches and on social media.
Recruitment and retention is something for whoever sets the objectives for the job. We don't know how well they are considered to have met those objectives. We can only hope they are meeting them and, if any mistakes have been made, they learn from them and become even better at their job. While any servant of the club is in post I want them to do their best without harassment.
Town were booed off at half time on Saturday, does that mean fans want Hurst out? No. If fans are happy they’ll let their opinion be known, equally if they’re unhappy. This isn’t new in football. Exactly so. If they didn't like you, as MM seems to be regarded, then everything you do is "wrong".
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Post by secretshrew on May 1, 2024 6:31:19 GMT 1
Without being a pedant surely this thread title needs a question mark at the end?! It makes it look it’s actually happened!
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Post by Pilch on May 1, 2024 7:24:23 GMT 1
Without being a pedant surely this thread title needs a question mark at the end?! It makes it look it’s actually happened! But we'd only have had 1 reply then , what we have instead is 5 pages of opportunist club (mm) bashing , this one is wearing a bit thin now , about time someone created todays clickbait😝
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 1, 2024 9:08:54 GMT 1
Club bashing again, oh no!
Seriously though, as mentioned above, this is only a rumour and will die off pretty quickly if nothing actually takes place.
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Post by secretshrew on May 1, 2024 10:01:59 GMT 1
Without being a pedant surely this thread title needs a question mark at the end?! It makes it look it’s actually happened! But we'd only have had 1 reply then , what we have instead is 5 pages of opportunist club (mm) bashing , this one is wearing a bit thin now , about time someone created todays clickbait😝 I’m just here to fact check 🤪
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 1, 2024 10:14:53 GMT 1
That a lot of the revolving door has nothing whatsoever to do with the fans, we just have too look on in amazement/despair...take your pick! Cotterill was manager for how long, two and half years Caldwell was in post for over seven years Hughes was a director for what, 13 years. Delves was heavily involved for over five years and a director for three Pritchard was effective head of finance for over eight years. Whilst I accept there was wholesale change at a senior level in the last year, if anything some of those above may have been around too long, rather than part of a "revolving door". A little change is good normally - Liam is a great example of what a new gace and fresh ideas can do. Anyway, I will shut up now, see what the bbc say: www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210608-why-a-revolving-door-of-team-members-is-fuel-for-success:-) I was responding to the earlier comment that "the revolving door only spins because some of our cancel culture fans are constantly spinning them so fast in order to create a 'vortex' like vacuum to suck our their latest target..." When clearly that is 99 times out of 100 not actually the case. How long people have been in post is an aside but you make a good observation of when change in an organisation can be very beneficial.
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Post by Pilch on May 1, 2024 10:16:47 GMT 1
Cotterill was manager for how long, two and half years Caldwell was in post for over seven years Hughes was a director for what, 13 years. Delves was heavily involved for over five years and a director for three Pritchard was effective head of finance for over eight years. Whilst I accept there was wholesale change at a senior level in the last year, if anything some of those above may have been around too long, rather than part of a "revolving door". A little change is good normally - Liam is a great example of what a new gace and fresh ideas can do. Anyway, I will shut up now, see what the bbc say: www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210608-why-a-revolving-door-of-team-members-is-fuel-for-success:-) I was responding to the earlier comment that "the revolving door only spins because some of our cancel culture fans are constantly spinning them so fast in order to create a 'vortex' like vacuum to suck our their latest target..." When clearly that is 99 times out of 100 not actually the case. How long people have been in post is an aside but you make a good observation of when change in an organisation can be very beneficial. oh sorry didn't realise this was a serious thread
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 1, 2024 10:23:03 GMT 1
I was responding to the earlier comment that "the revolving door only spins because some of our cancel culture fans are constantly spinning them so fast in order to create a 'vortex' like vacuum to suck our their latest target..." When clearly that is 99 times out of 100 not actually the case. How long people have been in post is an aside but you make a good observation of when change in an organisation can be very beneficial. oh sorry didn't realise this was a serious thread I thought it was, in parts.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 1, 2024 12:33:36 GMT 1
no idea what your point is ? That a lot of the revolving door has nothing whatsoever to do with the fans, we just have too look on in amazement/despair...take your pick! Indeed. Laughable to suggest otherwise. For the most part its because of poor recruitment. I find it baffling that anyone would have stuck with any of the managers we have seen relieved of their duties since getting back to this level as there was every chance they would have led us to relegation. Other than that there is Hurst and Cotterill and each has their own story.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 1, 2024 12:33:43 GMT 1
I’m just here to fact check 🤪 'Save yourself the time. There are others that are here to do that on behalf of the club. On every thread'. [/quote] Since the meaning of fact is - 'a thing that is known or proved to be true', then what does it matter who it's on behalf of?
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Post by Pilch on May 1, 2024 12:34:25 GMT 1
But we'd only have had 1 reply then , what we have instead is 5 pages of opportunist club (mm) bashing , this one is wearing a bit thin now , about time someone created todays clickbait😝 I’m just here to fact check 🤪 yes, time to put the anchor on it I think, its all gotten rather personal since you innocently queried it
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 1, 2024 15:03:11 GMT 1
I’m just here to fact check 🤪 'Save yourself the time. There are others that are here to do that on behalf of the club. On every thread'. Not me, for sure.
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Post by Mortgagehound on May 1, 2024 15:14:19 GMT 1
Sorry to interrupt, but is Mr Moore going to Cheltenham or not?........
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Post by davycrockett on May 1, 2024 17:51:11 GMT 1
Sorry to interrupt, but is Mr Moore going to Cheltenham or not?........ What happens in closed season is you get lots of rumours , some true some rubbish. I’d class this one as unlikely but with all the changes who knows? Fans used to have nothing to do but wait for news and maybe chat in the pub but then someone invented message boards where fans can talk about all sorts of things. PHs press releases saying things like “ you don't feel 'true ownership' at a football club as a head coach until you bring in your own players. Something he now has the chance to do this summer at Shrewsbury Town.” Especially if MM doesn’t say anything. Personally I’ve come down on the side of sticking with MM surely were not changing the experiment after one season?
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Post by belfastshrew on May 1, 2024 20:51:22 GMT 1
It would be very bizarre for MM to move downward so soon...i can understand it if it was a big club like Bristol Rovers or FGR...but Cheltenham...dear o dear 🤣🤣
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