lynch
Midland League Division One
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Post by lynch on Apr 28, 2024 20:51:08 GMT 1
I read on a fans forum that Graham Turner will take the DoF role, an option of an extra year as director of football he was offered back in 2010.
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Post by claphamshrew on Apr 28, 2024 23:00:28 GMT 1
Spot on, always gives a good laugh when the ‘it’s the fans fault’ line comes out. So you two can't see the difference it might make to a person's desicion to leave the DofF role at a club and take up any DofF offer back with your old club when the fan's attitude of the club you gave 5 years service to is along the lines of '"Hearing rumours we might be about to appoint a Director of Football and it's a face we all know. Unsure how that fits with keep Clarke for next season but I believe he worked with one at Port Vale and Bristol Rovers. Hopefully a bit of positive news on a really low day for the club" (Copied off Robins nest forum !!)' Whereas the attitude of the fans at a club you've been less than a year at is along the lines of: Good, I'll give him a lift back. Somewhat off topic? The rumour isn't that Mr Moore wants out, it's that his old club want him back.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 0:00:32 GMT 1
So you two can't see the difference it might make to a person's desicion to leave the DofF role at a club and take up any DofF offer back with your old club when the fan's attitude of the club you gave 5 years service to is along the lines of '"Hearing rumours we might be about to appoint a Director of Football and it's a face we all know. Unsure how that fits with keep Clarke for next season but I believe he worked with one at Port Vale and Bristol Rovers. Hopefully a bit of positive news on a really low day for the club" (Copied off Robins nest forum !!)' Whereas the attitude of the fans at a club you've been less than a year at is along the lines of: Good, I'll give him a lift back. Somewhat off topic? The rumour isn't that Mr Moore wants out, it's that his old club want him back. Let's not deny Cheltenham their goal please Roland.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 29, 2024 9:15:35 GMT 1
Somewhat off topic? The rumour isn't that Mr Moore wants out, it's that his old club want him back. Let's not deny Cheltenham their goal please Roland. Grizzly, how much of BC's time was taken up with signing players? He was always busy in the transfer window. Did BC enhance the Academy? How much did BC free up the manager to be The Coach? Did the time BC spent doing " dofF functions" take him away from CEO work?
You want to go back to the CEO doing it all, or do you want to give a DofF with years of experience at a club with similar financial constraints a chance?
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 9:21:52 GMT 1
The finances of our club,will define whether we keep a director of football or not......if Moore does want to go back to Cheltenham,there won't be much resistance trying to stop him!!👍👍
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 29, 2024 9:26:14 GMT 1
The finances of our club,will define whether we keep a director of football or not......if Moore does want to go back to Cheltenham,there won't be much resistance trying to stop him!!👍👍 I can't imagine that if Moore goes, it will be a financial decision. If he does (and of course it's a big if) I would imagine that it's because the landscape has changed since he was first appointed, we now have a CEO, we have an experienced manager and he has lost people that he brought in because he knew them. When the season started I said that Taylor probably felt a bit isolated because of the Moore, Bignot & Parrish relationship, whereas now I suspect that Moore is feeling a bit isolated because of the Roland/Hurst relationship
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Post by jamo on Apr 29, 2024 12:03:35 GMT 1
The finances of our club,will define whether we keep a director of football or not......if Moore does want to go back to Cheltenham,there won't be much resistance trying to stop him!!👍👍 I don’t know how it can be a financial decision, because we have been told previously that the current management setup is as a direct result of financial problems, therefore he has been appointed on that basis. If, and of course it is an if, Moore goes and the club spin it as a financially driven decision then the governance of the club is more a basket-case then I currently think.
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Post by shrewswolf on Apr 29, 2024 13:09:20 GMT 1
I hope this is true. I wasn’t impressed at all with how he handled the final days of Taylor and he was more than happy to throw him under the bus so I’d have little sympathy if Roland did the same to him.
The power has shifted. He has this job to lead on things with people close to him he knew well and an inexperienced manager who flew out to Ireland and immediately agreed with every recommendation.
Hurst clearly won’t do that and Moore’s personality doesn’t strike me as the type to sit there and become the bloke who just sits and calls up Hurst’s targets.
I imagine there is still room for a modern DOF but I think the job description will need changing slightly and it would have to be somebody else, someone who allows Hurst a bit more say and isn’t offended by it.
It’s also time for Roland to sell but this topic is as ridiculous as ever. There is not a cat in hells chance that there hasn’t been a single good and honest future owner interested in this club in all the years he’s supposedly been open to offers.
As our trajectory with him still here is now significant debt without player sales, I would suggest we stop ruling out the types who are willing to do exactly the same but put their own money in to cover it.
We are no longer a financially secure club wary of ruining the hard work. That’s already happened. Roland won’t want to cover it. So it’s time.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 13:26:15 GMT 1
If Moore goes on his own accord,and there's no financial cost to us,that's fine by me .....some of the deals he done in signing new players.... I'm still trying to get my head around.....Taylor Perry.....deffo one of moores signings... Did anybody stop to check what Perry actually did at Cheltenham..... believe me,it wasn't a lot.....the Mata and idowu signings....both given 3 year contracts.....I could hardly speak when I saw those 2 deals done..... I'll tell you something......we can't be short of money.....we kindly give it away...to me it beggars belief 🤦🤦🤦
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 29, 2024 13:30:52 GMT 1
Taylor Perry didn't sign for us straight away, he was on trial for a number of weeks at least so they did get a good look at him before offering him a deal.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 29, 2024 13:37:41 GMT 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 13:38:03 GMT 1
Who was watching him......Stevie wonder!!!😂🤣😂
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 14:01:41 GMT 1
Taylor Perry didn't sign for us straight away, he was on trial for a number of weeks at least so they did get a good look at him before offering him a deal. And they still offered him a deal - beggars belief doesnt it.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 18:50:24 GMT 1
As I said,nobody checked on perrys stats,and what he actually did at Cheltenham( they're not good)the club just moores word for it in my opinion...yes he had a trial.....but still think Moore pushed that one through.....sort of like "the old pals act" kinda thing
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 18:54:35 GMT 1
As Hurst said in his pre match interview..."we can't afford to get to many signings wrong".....if we do,like this season....we will be in serious trouble....also Hurst did say.......he will have the final say on signings(thank god)
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 29, 2024 20:19:07 GMT 1
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Post by bordersalopian on Apr 29, 2024 20:35:10 GMT 1
If true, it would lend weight to PHs latest comments that the work starts now on rebuilding for next season...so sounds like he's already got a list of players to target
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 29, 2024 20:35:29 GMT 1
Sounds so very similar to reactions on here when Hurst's return was first muted. Broadly yes, but some 'manner of his departure' ructions.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 21:41:18 GMT 1
If true, it would lend weight to PHs latest comments that the work starts now on rebuilding for next season...so sounds like he's already got a list of players to target You would expect Hurst to have a load of players already in advanced talks about coming here. He has known for weeks there was a huge rebuilding job required. Think from memory he had several signed up early close season in 2017 ??
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 21:46:52 GMT 1
He'll need to grizzly!!!
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 29, 2024 21:55:48 GMT 1
He needs his whole squad in place by the first day of pre season training. There is no chance of getting them in peak condition if they don’t arrive until the week of the opening game.
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Apr 29, 2024 21:58:22 GMT 1
I’ll drive him back to Cheltenham. No problem.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 22:00:02 GMT 1
Good point.... Hurst couldn't wait to put the retained and released list out...and I don't blame him, he needs to quickly get on with it,and already put a few offers in for players👍👍
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Post by jamo on Apr 29, 2024 22:10:19 GMT 1
I’ll drive him back to Cheltenham. No problem. I’ll follow behind, just in case you breakdown.
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Post by jamo on Apr 29, 2024 22:14:06 GMT 1
He needs his whole squad in place by the first day of pre season training. There is no chance of getting them in peak condition if they don’t arrive until the week of the opening game. I suspect Hurst has been working on his new squad for a couple of months, it won’t have taken him long to work out the squad he inherited was no where near good enough. In Hurst we trust .
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 29, 2024 22:14:44 GMT 1
I've already had a nervous breakdown,watching shrewsbury this season!!!!🤦🤦🫣🫣
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 29, 2024 23:38:19 GMT 1
I’ll drive him back to Cheltenham. No problem. There is no need to worry, plenty already in front of you in the queue.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 29, 2024 23:52:19 GMT 1
Good point.... Hurst couldn't wait to put the retained and released list out...and I don't blame him, he needs to quickly get on with it,and already put a few offers in for players👍👍 Hurst did that ? apparently putting it out early led to us playing s**t on Saturday
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 30, 2024 7:51:26 GMT 1
He needs his whole squad in place by the first day of pre season training. There is no chance of getting them in peak condition if they don’t arrive until the week of the opening game. I suspect Hurst has been working on his new squad for a couple of months, it won’t have taken him long to work out the squad he inherited was no where near good enough. In Hurst we trust . He said that he was aware of that before he tookthe job. I don’t think the previous regime realised quite how worrying the situation was as they were waiting to give somebody a pasting.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 30, 2024 8:21:23 GMT 1
I suspect Hurst has been working on his new squad for a couple of months, it won’t have taken him long to work out the squad he inherited was no where near good enough. In Hurst we trust . He said that he was aware of that before he tookthe job. I don’t think the previous regime realised quite how worrying the situation was as they were waiting to give somebody a pasting. The most disturbing and inept few months I can remember from a management team. It’s a miracle we got as many points as we did.
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