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Post by tvor on Feb 12, 2020 0:02:01 GMT 1
Sort of sums up how things are going at the moment, we started okay and they scored with their first effort of the game. After that happy to sit back whilst we lacked any belief or technical ability to get back into it, into the second half and a p**s poor goal to give away. Laurent and Edwards couldn’t even pass wind, seriously I’m not sure we’ve ever had a less technically gifted central midfield pairing. There must be more to Norburn’s injury than meets the eye, I’m starting to think it’s a bad one they’re trying to keep under wraps. Murphy < O’Leary, pathetic keeping for goal number two. Williams has been stealing a living all season. Lang acts like a petulant child when he gets subbed off, never mind that he played s**te. Love was so bad I felt sorry for him. Can’t remember a player regressing so much in such a short space of time. So with all that said, I can’t wait for Portsmouth on Saturday! Oh no, now you've done it!
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Post by haughmond on Feb 12, 2020 0:02:18 GMT 1
Can’t wait for Ricketts’ mouthpiece to dress this one up!! Do you mean the founder member of the Sam Ricketts appreciation society? I think after this god - awful debacle I think the “ society “ will be reduced to “ club” status, or even “ small gathering”. How can you defend the undefendable. You gotta laugh, and it seems that some of us did. Or were they shedding tears of despair.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 0:02:41 GMT 1
Up a Creek without a paddle at the moment and bloody hell it's cold 😮 we dont need paddles we have an engine with one gear reverse i am home and still thawing I'm just back. Still can't feel my toes.
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Post by vixenshrew on Feb 12, 2020 0:02:42 GMT 1
I suspect something is afoot! No Post match Sam interview on the club website, nothing in the Sloppy Star, nothing on BBC Shropshire! I was waiting for the interview whilst driving home ... nothing from Sam or a player. Perhaps they’ve all had an early night because they are sooooo tired.
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Post by tvor on Feb 12, 2020 0:03:32 GMT 1
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Post by salop27 on Feb 12, 2020 0:03:39 GMT 1
A bit chilly out tonight! Same problems as normal tonight, play five defenders yet can't defend and said defenders are useless going forward. Loves cross in the first half, which hit the advertising board on top of the away stand summed things up. Unfortunately Ricketts is not a good enough/experienced enough manager to sort this out. It's not necessarily even Ricketts fault as the people who hired him knew he had no league experience.
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Post by Scarecrow on Feb 12, 2020 0:05:26 GMT 1
Sort of sums up how things are going at the moment, we started okay and they scored with their first effort of the game. After that happy to sit back whilst we lacked any belief or technical ability to get back into it, into the second half and a p**s poor goal to give away. Laurent and Edwards couldn’t even pass wind, seriously I’m not sure we’ve ever had a less technically gifted central midfield pairing. There must be more to Norburn’s injury than meets the eye, I’m starting to think it’s a bad one they’re trying to keep under wraps. Murphy < O’Leary, pathetic keeping for goal number two. Williams has been stealing a living all season. Lang acts like a petulant child when he gets subbed off, never mind that he played s**te. Love was so bad I felt sorry for him. Can’t remember a player regressing so much in such a short space of time. So with all that said, I can’t wait for Portsmouth on Saturday! Bit harsh on Lang. He was running around trying to make space for himself but there was no service to him whatsoever. Interesting Pierre and O’Leary don’t start which to me strikes me as peculiar unless there’s an injury concern.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 0:08:16 GMT 1
Just back.
I don't tend to do many midweek games nowadays...
Tonight isn't exactly going to encourage me to want to do any more night games in a hurry 😕
One fed up Town fan whose ready for bed.
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Post by tvor on Feb 12, 2020 0:11:40 GMT 1
"The players who are in the dressing room will be the same ones going again on Saturday – no one will be back from injury."
Sounds like Norburn's injury is worse than originally thought.
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Post by vixenshrew on Feb 12, 2020 0:12:45 GMT 1
So he blames the FA cup! Same team as tonight play on Saturday. Wish I’d know that before I bought my Pompey ticket. Murphy is rubbish get him off and O’Leary back in.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2020 0:15:14 GMT 1
We are getting worse not better. Yep, I'd agree with that. And I think that's because with recent results and performances Ricketts has been forced to changed things about and he's not manged to do so in a way to bring about some success. Having found plan A not to be working, he's not got a plan B.
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Feb 12, 2020 0:24:30 GMT 1
How to beat Shrewsbury? Push your fullbacks forward slightly, causes Shrewsbury's "wing backs " to become fullbacks and the midfield is then overrun! Midfield gets pushed back, forwards become isolated! I would like to know how much of Shrewsbury's 64% possession was in there own half!
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Post by shrewswolf on Feb 12, 2020 1:33:06 GMT 1
We’ve just lost 2 0 to a dreadful side. We attempted a little more intent and control tonight but were sadly predictable & lacking any pattern of play or quality whatsoever, unfortunately. In fact, in trying to address our lack of ambition we are really showing ourselves up as a properly bad side. Boring and crap is not a good look. The MK keeper antics was not there to create a slight spectacle this time sadly.
Donald Love is woeful. Ro Shaun Williams everything people say Beckles is or can be, but I must be in a minority because no one else seems to say so?
What I would say is I don’t think there is a lack of effort whatsoever. Lang and Udoh work their arse off, even if the former does need to acknowledge that for all of his running, he’s fully deserved to be hauled off the last two Tuesdays. Centre midfield is centre midfield, Dave running around like a fan would but really without any technical ability at all. Laurent very quiet and with hardly a surging run tonight (1, maybe 2) and he’s hardly got the eye for a pass either unfortunately. Unimaginative midfield and unsuitable wing backs.. can’t see the issue changing any time soon, especially as Ricketts ‘isn’t concerned’ by it.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2020 7:31:33 GMT 1
Sort of sums up how things are going at the moment, we started okay and they scored with their first effort of the game. After that happy to sit back whilst we lacked any belief or technical ability to get back into it, into the second half and a p**s poor goal to give away. Laurent and Edwards couldn’t even pass wind, seriously I’m not sure we’ve ever had a less technically gifted central midfield pairing. There must be more to Norburn’s injury than meets the eye, I’m starting to think it’s a bad one they’re trying to keep under wraps. Murphy < O’Leary, pathetic keeping for goal number two. Williams has been stealing a living all season. Lang acts like a petulant child when he gets subbed off, never mind that he played s**te. Love was so bad I felt sorry for him. Can’t remember a player regressing so much in such a short space of time. So with all that said, I can’t wait for Portsmouth on Saturday! Bit harsh on Lang. He was running around trying to make space for himself but there was no service to him whatsoever. Interesting Pierre and O’Leary don’t start which to me strikes me as pec unless there’s an injury concern. There was a moment in the first half where Lang (I think it were Lang anyhow) picked the ball up on the left wing and he carried the ball right across the field (left to right) looking to his team mates, arms out wide, looking for something, looking for a pass...and he wasn't able to do so. Very noticeable moment for me that. I mean with how poor we are and how we are struggling, at that moment I think we got a glance of how frustrated our players must be getting with everything too.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2020 7:33:39 GMT 1
We’ve just lost 2 0 to a dreadful side. We attempted a little more intent and control tonight but were sadly predictable & lacking any pattern of play or quality whatsoever, unfortunately. In fact, in trying to address our lack of ambition we are really showing ourselves up as a properly bad side. Boring and cr@p is not a good look. The MK keeper antics was not there to create a slight spectacle this time sadly. Donald Love is woeful. Ro Shaun Williams everything people say Beckles is or can be, but I must be in a minority because no one else seems to say so? What I would say is I don’t think there is a lack of effort whatsoever. Lang and Udoh work their arse off, even if the former does need to acknowledge that for all of his running, he’s fully deserved to be hauled off the last two Tuesdays. Centre midfield is centre midfield, Dave running around like a fan would but really without any technical ability at all. Laurent very quiet and with hardly a surging run tonight (1, maybe 2) and he’s hardly got the eye for a pass either unfortunately. Unimaginative midfield and unsuitable wing backs.. can’t see the issue changing any time soon, especially as Ricketts ‘isn’t concerned’ by it. Agree with that but I think that's a little harsh on Stanley. I didn't think they were dreadful. I'd say ordinary. Still had too much for us though, mind.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 12, 2020 8:32:26 GMT 1
Bit harsh on Lang. He was running around trying to make space for himself but there was no service to him whatsoever. Interesting Pierre and O’Leary don’t start which to me strikes me as pec unless there’s an injury concern. There was a moment in the first half where Lang (I think it were Lang anyhow) picked the ball up on the left wing and he carried the ball right across the field (left to right) looking to his team mates, arms out wide, looking for something, looking for a pass...and he wasn't able to do so. Very noticeable moment for me that. I mean with how poor we are and how we are struggling, at that moment I think we got a glance of how frustrated our players must be getting with everything too. that example of lang was happening too often players very static, players not making themselves available, some players who have the ball not knowing what to do with it, all of which highlights a team low on confidence .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 12, 2020 8:34:14 GMT 1
is O'Leary injured if not he needs to play two poor games from Murphy.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 12, 2020 9:38:16 GMT 1
How to beat Shrewsbury? Push your fullbacks forward slightly, causes Shrewsbury's "wing backs " to become fullbacks and the midfield is then overrun! Midfield gets pushed back, forwards become isolated! I would like to know how much of Shrewsbury's 64% possession was in there own half!
Shh, don't tell everyone, we'll be found out!
It really is not rocket science is it.
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Feb 12, 2020 9:57:46 GMT 1
Most importantly.. how many shots on target did we have?!?!
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Post by harboroughshrew on Feb 12, 2020 10:01:07 GMT 1
Like many others I have sat through three dire performances in eight days and can understand the frustration shown at the match and on here (though I cant see the point of booing the players or chanting against the manager). That said Ricketts is making life very difficult for himself at the moment by constantly talking up the opposition and going on about how many games we have had. The cup runs are probably the only things saving him at the moment and it is difficult to reconcile the performances against Bristol City twice and the first Liverpool game with the team that has turned up in the recent league games. I do not agree that we have a squad of very good players at this level - I think several of them are being found out as the season has gone on - and it is a shame that we were not successful in bringing in a bit of attacking quality (Docherty, Grigg) in the transfer window though I am sure we tried hard to do that. At the moment we have a losing strategy and we must try something different. The wingback tactic is not working because we dont have the players who can do the attacking part of that well. How about a bit of old-fashioned (but tried and tested) 4-4-2 to get us further up the pitch and give more support to the forwards? I dont believe in changing the manager because of a bad run during the season but Rickett's inflexibility is handing ammunition to those who want rid of him and no manager can survive for long in the sort of atmosphere that is starting to brew in the home games.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 12, 2020 10:06:07 GMT 1
Most importantly.. how many shots on target did we have?!?! dont worry , we had most of the possession, someone moaned earlier in the season after we won that we didnt have much possession, I said it was all about the scoreline that matters what do I know
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Post by northwestman on Feb 12, 2020 10:10:01 GMT 1
Sort of sums up how things are going at the moment, we started okay and they scored with their first effort of the game. After that happy to sit back whilst we lacked any belief or technical ability to get back into it, into the second half and a p**s poor goal to give away. Laurent and Edwards couldn’t even pass wind, seriously I’m not sure we’ve ever had a less technically gifted central midfield pairing. There must be more to Norburn’s injury than meets the eye, I’m starting to think it’s a bad one they’re trying to keep under wraps. Murphy < O’Leary, pathetic keeping for goal number two. Williams has been stealing a living all season. Lang acts like a petulant child when he gets subbed off, never mind that he played s**te. Love was so bad I felt sorry for him. Can’t remember a player regressing so much in such a short space of time. So with all that said, I can’t wait for Portsmouth on Saturday! Bit harsh on Lang. He was running around trying to make space for himself but there was no service to him whatsoever. Interesting Pierre and O’Leary don’t start which to me strikes me as pec unless there’s an injury concern. Even more interesting was the fact that Udoh, our best player on Saturday, started on the bench.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 12, 2020 10:21:15 GMT 1
There's two problems I see:
- We play a wing backs system, but don't have wing backs. Love is a RB, Goldborne is a LB, neither can attack effectively enough for this system to work.
- We sold all our wide players aside from an aging Whalley and lost Giles to a recall, so if we need to change it up, width isn't an option.
What we're seeing now is an attempt at 3-5-2 which the opposition knows with a tweak in their own formation they can force us into a 5-1-2-2. Leaves us no width, no midfield, limited attacking threat and poor service to the frustrated front men.
I've never been Ricketts out but no win in ten and only scoring 6 goals in 9 games is absolutely p**s poor. Something has to change.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 12, 2020 10:41:25 GMT 1
Ricketts reason for the team struggling, fatigue due to a crowded fixture list , overacheving early in the season( i presume he means that gave fans unrealistic expectations), injuries and the cup run is hurting us.
he will field the same team for the next game as he has no other choice.
if you take all of ricketts reasons at face value, it does not explain town's lack of responce after going a goal down, whilst you can expect a team to take a short time to refocus after going behind, town showed very little inclination to attack ,we continued to sit deep, we did not increase our uregency or move beyond ponderous in attack and the futile long balls too cummings who was playing against a defender two foot taller. town looke a team very low on confidence and lacking variation or ideas going forward, we are predictable and make it easy for defences.to many players did not turn up .
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 12, 2020 10:47:29 GMT 1
Most importantly.. how many shots on target did we have?!?! dont worry , we had most of the possession, someone moaned earlier in the season after we won that we didnt have much possession, I said it was all about the scoreline that matters what do I know The pattern is becoming clearer as the season goes on Have more of the ball - Dont win many Have less of the ball - Dont win many Fundamentally - Dont win many.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 12, 2020 10:48:06 GMT 1
two home games against teams who are not pulling up any trees a chance for town to restart there season i thought optamistically (when will i learn), six points fantastic , four points still good but one point out of a maximum six is not good enough. i had hoped when we looked to be a midtable team that at least even if the football is boring we wont have to look over our shoulder this season , back to normal service hopeing that the bottom teams do worse than us.
were do we go from this i dont have a clue
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 12, 2020 10:49:15 GMT 1
Most importantly.. how many shots on target did we have?!?! That would be ZERO For the 3rd game in 11 Which is statistically absolutely rare. Before the first of the three in this run No games last season with no shots on target One the season before.... (League)
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 12, 2020 10:52:44 GMT 1
Ricketts reason for the team struggling, fatigue due to a crowded fixture list , overacheving early in the season( i presume he means that gave fans unrealistic expectations), injuries and the cup run is hurting us. he will field the same team for the next game as he has no other choice. if you take all of ricketts reasons at face value, it does not explain town's lack of responce after going a goal down, whilst you can expect a team to take a short time to refocus after going behind, town showed very little inclination to attack ,we continued to sit deep, we did not increase our uregency or move beyond ponderous in attack and the futile long balls too cummings who was playing against a defender two foot taller. town looke a team very low on confidence and lacking variation or ideas going forward, we are predictable and make it easy for defences.to many players did not turn up . Perhaps he should give Mark Robins a call to see how he managed his team to get to the same level in the FA Cup including a replay with extra time but then went on to win the next two games.... Bet his pre match team talk didn’t complain about fitness and injury .....
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Post by Pilch on Feb 12, 2020 11:04:32 GMT 1
dont worry , we had most of the possession, someone moaned earlier in the season after we won that we didnt have much possession, I said it was all about the scoreline that matters what do I know The pattern is becoming clearer as the season goes on Have more of the ball - Dont win many Have less of the ball - Dont win many Fundamentally - Dont win many. the pattern is ricketts arrives. fans moan town win. fans moan town draw fans moan town lose fans moan fans moan
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 12, 2020 11:05:35 GMT 1
The pattern is becoming clearer as the season goes on Have more of the ball - Dont win many Have less of the ball - Dont win many Fundamentally - Dont win many. the pattern is ricketts arrives. fans moan town win. fans moan town draw fans moan town lose fans moan fans moan Just not true though is it.
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