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Post by ssshrew on May 10, 2019 14:27:16 GMT 1
But it won’t be the fact he, or anyone else, goes it will be the way they do it for me.
I’m sure there will be two sides to a story but I was told by people sitting behind the dugout how PH spent the afternoon at Wembley with his pal from Rotherham before he’d actually gone and I wasn’t impressed then and I’m still not.
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Post by scooter on May 10, 2019 14:28:47 GMT 1
Well as we and Grimsby will tell them - be careful what you wish for - success and he’ll be off. Of course he may well, like MM, be realising that league two is his comfort level. Ricketts will do that too, he’s proven it already. Brace yourself. Sam Ricketts has never managed in L2
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Post by ssshrew on May 10, 2019 14:30:35 GMT 1
Well as we and Grimsby will tell them - be careful what you wish for - success and he’ll be off. Of course he may well, like MM, be realising that league two is his comfort level. I agree with a lot of your points on this board, but are you saying you wouldn't leave a current employer to move upwards and likely earn more than double? Come on, it wasn't ideal, he snaked in for two players last minute yes, but i can't hold it against him too much especially after hearing it was just a days notice and they knew "well" in advance of the final. I agree with a lot of points you make too. But I can’t help it I was so so disappointed after the playoff final and what followed. My worst time in supporting the Town and there have certainly been some bad ones!!
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Post by martinshrew on May 10, 2019 14:32:17 GMT 1
I agree with a lot of your points on this board, but are you saying you wouldn't leave a current employer to move upwards and likely earn more than double? Come on, it wasn't ideal, he snaked in for two players last minute yes, but i can't hold it against him too much especially after hearing it was just a days notice and they knew "well" in advance of the final. I agree with a lot of points you make too. But I can’t help it I was so so disappointed after the playoff final and what followed. My worst time in supporting the Town and there have certainly been some bad ones!! It was bad i agree, was gutted. He did though give you one of your happiest seasons in 30 odd years i'd imagine? Like you say though, a chance in a generation gone.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 15:01:21 GMT 1
Good luck to him, except for when we play Scunny, Bit like arguing with your best mate when you’re drunk - let by gones be by gones. It’s been and gone, time to move forward.
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Post by ssshrew on May 10, 2019 15:06:41 GMT 1
I expect to get them in one of the cups for definite!!!
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Post by ssshrew on May 10, 2019 15:08:00 GMT 1
One thing we can all agree on - any players left from this season are going to get one hell of a shock if they try any play acting! PH may or may not stand for but if Doigy goes with him I can see him stamping it out - literally if necessary.
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Post by northwestman on May 10, 2019 15:08:20 GMT 1
Warne chatting with his mate at Wembley didn't eventually do him much good.
Rotherham are relegated. Karma.
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Post by davycrockett on May 10, 2019 15:11:17 GMT 1
Ricketts will do that too, he’s proven it already. Brace yourself. Sam Ricketts has never managed in L2 ‘Success and he’ll be off’ Ricketts didn’t hesitate to walk out on Wrexham for a job at a higher level with us. Keep up 😉
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 9:22:35 GMT 1
That’s just great.
Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose.
Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on May 11, 2019 9:43:51 GMT 1
Darrell Clarke is an honourable likeable chap. Not a perfect fit with Chairman Bonser but can see them doing well next season. In respect of Hurst just wonder if there are any town players or backroom staff he may fancy taking with him. Its a good appointment by Sc***horpe and he should do ok but he will have to have a clear out as most of the players have been trained by the Royal Shakespear company. I'd certainly be prepared to negotiate with him with regard to Beckles. Bolton might be prepared to move, though hopefully not. . Christ you have some dangerous opinions.
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Post by scooter on May 11, 2019 10:16:28 GMT 1
Sam Ricketts has never managed in L2 ‘Success and he’ll be off’ Ricketts didn’t hesitate to walk out on Wrexham for a job at a higher level with us. Keep up 😉 Some editing of the original post there Davy 😜 of course he might might move on if he is successful, that is a fact of life for us and lots of other clubs
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 11, 2019 14:28:39 GMT 1
That’s just great. Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose. Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan. Thank god for Brian Caldwell if that rumour is to be believed. You REALLY think that Hurst would have lost all face and come grovelling back here after the way he left? Reality check needed.
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Post by Worthingshrew on May 11, 2019 16:32:15 GMT 1
That’s just great. Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose. Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan. Caldwell has proved his loyalty to the club more than once, unlike PH. Glad we have BC rather than PH at the club. I’m also convinced that Rickets will prove to be a good manager for us.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 11, 2019 16:52:08 GMT 1
That’s just great. Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose. Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan. Caldwell has proved his loyalty to the club more than once, unlike PH. Glad we have BC rather than PH at the club. I’m also convinced that Rickets will prove to be a good manager for us. Now stop putting sensible posts on B&A. I do agree with you though.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 16:58:58 GMT 1
That’s just great. Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose. Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan. Thank god for Brian Caldwell if that rumour is to be believed. You REALLY think that Hurst would have lost all face and come grovelling back here after the way he left? Reality check needed. Your possibly right but we will never know. If Caldwell blocked any possibility of his return then I would view it short sighted and unprofessional if it's purely personal reasoning behind it. If PH was against coming back then that makes a difference but nobody will ever know. My own personal view of the situation would have been if that a few daggers had been put away and few olive branches offered up we could got over the issues and we could've seen the return of one of the most successful managers in our clubs history. We came very close to regretting that decision.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 11, 2019 17:08:11 GMT 1
Thank god for Brian Caldwell if that rumour is to be believed. You REALLY think that Hurst would have lost all face and come grovelling back here after the way he left? Reality check needed. Your possibly right but we will never know. If Caldwell blocked any possibility of his return then I would view it short sighted and unprofessional if it's purely personal reasoning behind it. If PH was against coming back then that makes a difference but nobody will ever know. My own personal view of the situation would have been if that a few daggers had been put away and few olive branches offered up we could got over the issues and we could've seen the return of one of the most successful managers in our clubs history. We came very close to regretting that decision. I doubt any decision was ever there to be made tbh, nor would there have been even if BC had been of a different mind. Hurst would not have come back here, no way (and I’m glad about that). And he wasn’t one of the most successful managers in our clubs history, he gave us 3/4 of a season near the top of L1 but lost the plot when a supposedly bigger club came snooping around. Doesn’t rank with any manager who gave us a promotion successs.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 17:22:34 GMT 1
Your possibly right but we will never know. If Caldwell blocked any possibility of his return then I would view it short sighted and unprofessional if it's purely personal reasoning behind it. If PH was against coming back then that makes a difference but nobody will ever know. My own personal view of the situation would have been if that a few daggers had been put away and few olive branches offered up we could got over the issues and we could've seen the return of one of the most successful managers in our clubs history. We came very close to regretting that decision. I doubt any decision was ever there to be made tbh, nor would there have been even if BC had been of a different mind. Hurst would not have come back here, no way (and I’m glad about that). And he wasn’t one of the most successful managers in our clubs history, he gave us 3/4 of a season near the top of L1 but lost the plot when a supposedly bigger club came snooping around. Doesn’t rank with any manager who gave us a promotion successs. Nobody has got us that close to championship football for nearly 40 years. I regard that as success and would like a bit more of that please with possibly making up it next time. I would obviously like him back and would gladly swap him for Ricketts today but as much as I disagree with you I respect you have your opinion and hopefully we will agree on something some day.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 17:32:55 GMT 1
I doubt any decision was ever there to be made tbh, nor would there have been even if BC had been of a different mind. Hurst would not have come back here, no way (and I’m glad about that). And he wasn’t one of the most successful managers in our clubs history, he gave us 3/4 of a season near the top of L1 but lost the plot when a supposedly bigger club came snooping around. Doesn’t rank with any manager who gave us a promotion successs. Nobody has got us that close to championship football for nearly 40 years. I regard that as success and would like a bit more of that please with possibly making up it next time. I would obviously like him back and would gladly swap him for Ricketts today but as much as I disagree with you I respect you have your opinion and hopefully we will agree on something some day. He got us within sight and yet utterly failed with a totally abject performance in the one game that mattered. That isn't success to me.
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Post by philharvey on May 11, 2019 17:50:00 GMT 1
It showed a bit before that.
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Post by philharvey on May 11, 2019 17:53:46 GMT 1
He got us up there but didn't finish the job, a more honest and proud man would have seen the job through, instead of negotiating a new job behind our backs which obviously affected the players.
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Post by venceremos on May 11, 2019 22:56:51 GMT 1
That’s just great. Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose. Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan. Just weird.
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Post by Exkeeper on May 11, 2019 23:27:57 GMT 1
Brian Caldwell or Paul Hurst for the long term stability of our club? BC for me every time. Most things that he has tackled have ended in success, and he quietly moves on to the next task. He has had offers to “better” himself but has remained loyal to STFC. I am pretty sure that some of our health bank balance is down to his shrewd dealings. When he does finally leave our club will be healthier than when he arrived, can we say that about Hurst? I don’t think so. Possibly if he hadn’t turned the head of key players, we may have had a better season than we have just had but at least BC has negotiated deals above what the buyers wanted to pay. One last thing - Sam Ricketts deserves a chance to build his own team, just as Hurst was allowed to do. Remember, when Hurst kept us up, the football was far from pretty and even in our almost successful season, there were some dour one-nils and very few goal fests.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 23:45:41 GMT 1
That’s just great. Hurst should’ve been back with us in November but thanks to Brian Caldwell it didn’t happen and we are left with someone not fit for purpose. Sc***horpe might’ve gone down but I would be more optimistic as one of their fans moving forward than I am being a Shrewsbury fan. Just weird. Not as much as some of the responses but it’s depends which side of the argument you are.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on May 11, 2019 23:58:59 GMT 1
Not as much as some of the responses but it’s depends which side of the argument you are. Mr Lord please reveal yourself, are you Paul Hurst failed former manager of Shrewsbury Town Football Club?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 10:31:49 GMT 1
Not as much as some of the responses but it’s depends which side of the argument you are. Mr Lord please reveal yourself, are you Paul Hurst failed former manager of Shrewsbury Town Football Club? No I am not Paul Hurst former manager of Shrewsbury Town Football Club. I am just a humble fan who enjoyed in 2017/18 the best football season the club has had in thirty plus years. That to me is not a failure and it's a shame that some people have let his exit spoil an extremely special 8 months in the clubs history. I'm as unhappy as anyone about the way he left but I've decided to not hold a grudge and move on from of all that and remember the many positives of his time in charge. This included the possibility of his return which in my opinion should've happened in November. Like it or not and there are some that obviously don't that's the way I view it.
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Post by venceremos on May 12, 2019 10:41:26 GMT 1
Mr Lord please reveal yourself, are you Paul Hurst failed former manager of Shrewsbury Town Football Club? No I am not Paul Hurst former manager of Shrewsbury Town Football Club. I am just a humble fan who enjoyed in 2017/18 the best football season the club has had in thirty plus years. That to me is not a failure and it's a shame that some people have let his exit spoil an extremely special 8 months in the clubs history. I'm as unhappy as anyone about the way he left but I've decided to not hold a grudge and move on from of all that and remember the many positives of his time in charge. This included the possibility of his return which in my opinion should've happened in November. Like it or not and there are some that obviously don't that's the way I view it. That’s fair enough - your opinion, as you say, and only a bit to disagree with there. Where we definitely part company is when you denigrate Ricketts as “not fit for purpose” and suggest Sc***horpe are in a better place than us. The mini-messiah has gone. He moved on and so, finally, should we. Most of us have.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 13:05:01 GMT 1
No I am not Paul Hurst former manager of Shrewsbury Town Football Club. I am just a humble fan who enjoyed in 2017/18 the best football season the club has had in thirty plus years. That to me is not a failure and it's a shame that some people have let his exit spoil an extremely special 8 months in the clubs history. I'm as unhappy as anyone about the way he left but I've decided to not hold a grudge and move on from of all that and remember the many positives of his time in charge. This included the possibility of his return which in my opinion should've happened in November. Like it or not and there are some that obviously don't that's the way I view it. That’s fair enough - your opinion, as you say, and only a bit to disagree with there. Where we definitely part company is when you denigrate Ricketts as “not fit for purpose” and suggest Sc***horpe are in a better place than us. The mini-messiah has gone. He moved on and so, finally, should we. Most of us have. Fair play Mr V. I don't see anything much in Ricketts to give me any confidence moving on and my opening post on this thread was just expressing my frustration that we could possibly of got Hurst and Doig back but for some reason we couldn't or wouldn't and now the opportunity is gone leaving us where we are. You are right that I have no choice but to move and if Ricketts proves me wrong then fantastic. I've fallen out with some good posters on here reference this subject including you so maybe i'm missing something. Time will tell.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 12, 2019 13:19:11 GMT 1
That’s fair enough - your opinion, as you say, and only a bit to disagree with there. Where we definitely part company is when you denigrate Ricketts as “not fit for purpose” and suggest Sc***horpe are in a better place than us. The mini-messiah has gone. He moved on and so, finally, should we. Most of us have. Fair play Mr V. I don't see anything much in Ricketts to give me any confidence moving on and my opening post on this thread was just expressing my frustration that we could possibly of got Hurst and Doig back but for some reason we couldn't or wouldn't and now the opportunity is gone leaving us where we are. You are right that I have no choice but to move and if Ricketts proves me wrong then fantastic. I've fallen out with some good posters on here reference this subject including you so maybe i'm missing something. Time will tell. I too feel that Ricketts has much to do to prove himself as a Town manager, but having moved on from the Hurst years it would have been totally wrong to have reappointed him in the autumn. I hope Ricketts proves us all wrong and comes good, I just hope that fans will give him a chance come July when he will either sink or swim with his own team behind him and a good pre season to get the players up to the required fitness so that we don’t keep getting the excuse that the players are tired due to having played 3 games in 8 days (this was really starting to grate with me, but fitness quite likely was an issue last year). Just please everybody don’t start moaning about him if we don’t win the first game 3-0
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2019 13:22:17 GMT 1
Fair play Mr V. I don't see anything much in Ricketts to give me any confidence moving on and my opening post on this thread was just expressing my frustration that we could possibly of got Hurst and Doig back but for some reason we couldn't or wouldn't and now the opportunity is gone leaving us where we are. You are right that I have no choice but to move and if Ricketts proves me wrong then fantastic. I've fallen out with some good posters on here reference this subject including you so maybe i'm missing something. Time will tell. Just please everybody don’t start moaning about him if we don’t win the first game 3-0 surely you mean the make or break first friendly
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