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Post by supermac11 on Feb 2, 2020 9:30:37 GMT 1
Interesting that some people see yesterday as an excellent performance and one in which we created chances - maybe that's reflection of what went before. Excellent it was not (& I did go before anyone asks). It was ok but really Rochdale were as poor as any team I can remember in L1 (& we lost). We created a couple of chances maybe and a few half efforts on goal. We had loads of the ball but unfortunately most of it seemed to be with Love and Golbourne & I don't see many teams worrying about their attacking abilities. I'm not really sure what we are trying to do when we have the ball. For the most part, we don't press teams, indeed Dave Edwards was waving Cummings back yesterday. Fair enough, against teams that might pass the ball around you (Liverpool, Bristol City etc.) but against Rochdale?! If we're sitting in our own half then we presumably need to counter attack at pace but aside from Laurent I don't see anyone doing that (now Giles has gone we don't have much pace). It takes an age for us to shuffle the ball around and finally get to final third. There's a nagging sense that we have better players than most recent seasons but are not really exploiting them. I'm not saying we are world beaters but top half would seem more than realistic.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Feb 2, 2020 9:54:21 GMT 1
Having read some of the comments on here, and the mere title of the thread, nobody seems to want to provide any insight on the consequences of removing the Mamnager. Firstly any suggestions who you would bring in. Secondly they would have to work with the current squad and not be able to add to it. Thirdly it would be a very high risk move to replace a settled squad and set up, with a new manager at this point in the season. Fourthly why don't we just accept that at the moment we are a low to mid table L1 side, with some plans to improve, but consolidation is a great platform and something we haven't seen in a long time. Patience is a virtue that football supporters are seriously lacking sometimes.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 2, 2020 11:23:58 GMT 1
Having read some of the comments on here, and the mere title of the thread, nobody seems to want to provide any insight on the consequences of removing the Mamnager. Firstly any suggestions who you would bring in. Secondly they would have to work with the current squad and not be able to add to it. Thirdly it would be a very high risk move to replace a settled squad and set up, with a new manager at this point in the season. Fourthly why don't we just accept that at the moment we are a low to mid table L1 side, with some plans to improve, but consolidation is a great platform and something we haven't seen in a long time. Patience is a virtue that football supporters are seriously lacking sometimes. exactly and the cost it was take would put a massive dent into next seasons budget, this sort or thing has been the beginning of a disaster for many clubs
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 13:00:19 GMT 1
Just back. Today was the final straw, Tory boy can pick out an odd good cup result but a 30% win percentage after nearly fifteen months is an embarrassment. We have enough serial mediocrity camping out in 10 Downing Street without it being in SY2 as well.... You didn’t enjoy our performance? Win percentage aside, today was an excellent performance and I wished we had seen more of this attacking style earlier in the season Yes we lost but we both know we were mugged by Dale That's all well and good, but the only stat that matters is that we lost and continues our poor run of current form. That's how people will see it. It's not the first time we've been mugged off, but we've also won games were we've mugged off the opposition. It works both ways. Anyway, one of the problems with this team is consistency, a problem all midtable teams have, so let's hope we continue with the good performances and get our rewards. We now have a run of games against teams below and around us at home where we should get some positive results.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 13:03:54 GMT 1
Having read some of the comments on here, and the mere title of the thread, nobody seems to want to provide any insight on the consequences of removing the Mamnager. Firstly any suggestions who you would bring in. Secondly they would have to work with the current squad and not be able to add to it. Thirdly it would be a very high risk move to replace a settled squad and set up, with a new manager at this point in the season. Fourthly why don't we just accept that at the moment we are a low to mid table L1 side, with some plans to improve, but consolidation is a great platform and something we haven't seen in a long time. Patience is a virtue that football supporters are seriously lacking sometimes. To be fair, people speculating about who our next manager should be is one of the more amusing things on here. Sam Allardyce anyone......
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Post by tvor on Feb 2, 2020 15:46:30 GMT 1
You didn’t enjoy our performance? Win percentage aside, today was an excellent performance and I wished we had seen more of this attacking style earlier in the season Yes we lost but we both know we were mugged by Dale That's all well and good, but the only stat that matters is that we lost and continues our poor run of current form. That's how people will see it. It's not the first time we've been mugged off, but we've also won games were we've mugged off the opposition. It works both ways. Anyway, one of the problems with this team is consistency, a problem all midtable teams have, so let's hope we continue with the good performances and get our rewards. We now have a run of games against teams below and around us at home where we should get some positive results. Whilst there is rightly a lot of talk about our lack of ability to score goals at the moment this poor run has also coincided with a lack of clean sheets. The strong defensive play that was the bedrock of many of our results earlier in the season has deteriorated in recent weeks. We haven't kept a clean sheet since the win at Blackpool on December 21st , prior to that we were keeping clean sheets fairly regularly.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2020 19:18:09 GMT 1
Having read some of the comments on here, and the mere title of the thread, nobody seems to want to provide any insight on the consequences of removing the Mamnager. Firstly any suggestions who you would bring in. Secondly they would have to work with the current squad and not be able to add to it. Thirdly it would be a very high risk move to replace a settled squad and set up, with a new manager at this point in the season. Fourthly why don't we just accept that at the moment we are a low to mid table L1 side, with some plans to improve, but consolidation is a great platform and something we haven't seen in a long time. Patience is a virtue that football supporters are seriously lacking sometimes. To be fair, people speculating about who our next manager should be is one of the more amusing things on here. Sam Allardyce anyone...... That me right back to John Bond.....
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Post by jamo on Feb 12, 2020 13:53:03 GMT 1
Anyone seriously advocating giving Ricketts a full summer to prepare for the absolute inevitable next season is genuinely deluded. Just my opinion.
And, given the sheer blind sycophancy of those ‘special fans’ invited to meet with good old Sam- despite the blindingly obvious being played out right in front of them game after game, then wow, there must have been some pretty amazing words spoken !
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Post by Pilch on Feb 12, 2020 13:55:30 GMT 1
Anyone seriously advocating giving Ricketts a full summer to prepare for the absolute inevitable next season is genuinely deluded. Just my opinion. And, given the sheer blind sycophancy of those ‘special fans’ invited to meet with good old Sam- despite the blindingly obvious being played out right in front of them game after game, then wow, there must have been some pretty amazing words spoken ! you've just heard we lost last night I take it ?
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Feb 12, 2020 14:07:17 GMT 1
Pilch, I know that people who represent STFC, but aren’t directly employed by the club have been contacted and advised to not post anything negative towards Ricketts online. We know you get invited to meetings with Ricketts, have the club asked you to be overly supportive towards SR and shoot anyone down who highlights his faults..?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Feb 12, 2020 14:14:35 GMT 1
Is Ricketts job actually in doubt at Meadow Towers?
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Post by Pilch on Feb 12, 2020 15:11:24 GMT 1
Pilch, I know that people who represent STFC, but aren’t directly employed by the club have been contacted and advised to not post anything negative towards Ricketts online. We know you get invited to meetings with Ricketts, have the club asked you to be overly supportive towards SR and shoot anyone down who highlights his faults..? no, and if they did I'd refuse
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 19:45:50 GMT 1
Pilch, I know that people who represent STFC, but aren’t directly employed by the club have been contacted and advised to not post anything negative towards Ricketts online. We know you get invited to meetings with Ricketts, have the club asked you to be overly supportive towards SR and shoot anyone down who highlights his faults..? I wonder if the SP are included in that.
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Post by Scarecrow on Feb 12, 2020 20:48:56 GMT 1
Pilch, I know that people who represent STFC, but aren’t directly employed by the club have been contacted and advised to not post anything negative towards Ricketts online. We know you get invited to meetings with Ricketts, have the club asked you to be overly supportive towards SR and shoot anyone down who highlights his faults..? I wonder if the SP are included in that. I don't think Salopcast and Glynn have exactly been Ricketts cheerleaders in the last few months...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 20:53:41 GMT 1
I wonder if the SP are included in that. I don't think Salopcast and Glynn have exactly been Ricketts cheerleaders in the last few months... SP-Supporters Parliament.
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 12, 2020 22:08:40 GMT 1
I wonder if the SP are included in that. I don't think Salopcast and Glynn have exactly been Ricketts cheerleaders in the last few months... They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda
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Post by CopthorneShrew on Feb 12, 2020 22:15:19 GMT 1
I don't think Salopcast and Glynn have exactly been Ricketts cheerleaders in the last few months... They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda I’m more than happy to ban talk of statistics on B&A! So let’s just talk about what is in front of us on the pitch.. Utter tripe!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2020 22:20:08 GMT 1
I don't think Salopcast and Glynn have exactly been Ricketts cheerleaders in the last few months... They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda Well I'm sure we could all do with cheering up, so what positive stats (rather than negative) do you have for us over the course of this season and more to the point, when looking to this current run of nine games without a win?
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Post by Scarecrow on Feb 12, 2020 22:25:28 GMT 1
They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda Well I'm sure we could all do with cheering up, so what positive stats (rather than negative) do you have for us over the course of this season and more to the point, when looking to this current run of nine games without a win? 21 shots? I mean... there were none on target but that's one... maybe...
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 12, 2020 22:36:54 GMT 1
They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda Well I'm sure we could all do with cheering up, so what positive stats (rather than negative) do you have for us over the course of this season and more to the point, when looking to this current run of nine games without a win? You’ve missed my point Why make a massive issue about shots on target, when some of our best wins have come with minimal shots on target. It’s a totally pointless stat Ironic thing about it all, is this terrible run has coincided with our defence deciding to play like school children. The whole lot of them to be honest, Pierre exempt
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 12, 2020 22:38:13 GMT 1
They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda I’m more than happy to ban talk of statistics on B&A! So let’s just talk about what is in front of us on the pitch.. Utter tripe!! I don’t need to bother going to games any more. Can just check if you’ve posted on here. If you have - we’ve lost If you haven’t - we’ve won/drawn
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2020 0:26:44 GMT 1
I don't think Salopcast and Glynn have exactly been Ricketts cheerleaders in the last few months... They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda thats because of one thing and one thing only their name wasn't Paul hurst that greedy bloke, who his eye off the ball, did a midnight flit, and our valuables with him the bloke who has become the worst manager in the the football league since leaving us and what is really amazing is, they want this bloke back they are happy with boring football as long as we win there would be a more toxic atmosphere off the pitch than ever before if he stepped foot in the ground again
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 13, 2020 9:29:15 GMT 1
Well I'm sure we could all do with cheering up, so what positive stats (rather than negative) do you have for us over the course of this season and more to the point, when looking to this current run of nine games without a win? You’ve missed my point Why make a massive issue about shots on target, when some of our best wins have come with minimal shots on target. It’s a totally pointless stat Ironic thing about it all, is this terrible run has coincided with our defence deciding to play like school children. The whole lot of them to be honest, Pierre exempt Sure, but you did say stats can be twisted to suit any agenda... I'd like to see that for what we're having to endure at the moment. Anyhow, moving on... I think the point is we're in a pretty bad state at the minute: no win in nine, can't score, dropping like a stone, embarrassed by a bunch of academy kids in the Cup and we've just let a player go elsewhere where he's started to score goals. And as a result, things are going to be more negative than not. I mean looking to the podcast, what else would we expect from a weekly discussion on all things Town at the moment? There are very few positives, if any, that we can look to at the moment.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Feb 13, 2020 10:01:25 GMT 1
Running a football club is a business that operates in the sporting industry, and the reality is that you have to be financially solvent to be competitive and have any chance of progression on an off the field, although some do it differently but who would want those debts. Some may say it is an entertainment business, some a social event, but most see it as a trait of watching their team week in and week out. How many of us really believe we are going to watch because we want to be entertained, of course it would be nice and combine this with winning (some see this as entertainment alone even if it was boring as hell), the the 2 go hand in hand. This season in alot of ways has been a huge success for the club financially and some of this down to the manager and his team. This sort of money puts us in good stead for the future and their are plenty of other clubs and supporters who would swap places with us in the blink of an eye. So in my opinion why would you contemplate getting rid of someone who has made such a huge contribution to the club this season. Hopefully with better financial resources can improve on the pitch during the summer, and if I was him that is exactly what I would be saying to the board.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Feb 13, 2020 10:27:47 GMT 1
This is a good time for Roly to sign off on chips at the buffet bars.....that will get the fans back onside, or to really get us really positive, bring back pay on the gate.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 13, 2020 10:39:46 GMT 1
Entertainment? Bring back the dog/fox on the pitch and the brass band at half time.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Feb 13, 2020 10:58:30 GMT 1
They’ve been negative since day 1. As they were under Askey. The pointless negative stats are draining and toxic (in my opinion). The shots on target has been the agenda this year. Ignoring the fact 3 of our best wins (Sunderland, Posh and Blackpool) were games we had 1/2 shots max on target... Stats can be twisted to suit any agenda thats because of one thing and one thing only their name wasn't Paul hurst that greedy bloke, who his eye off the ball, did a midnight flit, and our valuables with him the bloke who has become the worst manager in the the football league since leaving us and what is really amazing is, they want this bloke back they are happy with boring football as long as we win there would be a more toxic atmosphere off the pitch than ever before if he stepped foot in the ground again Just for some balance - that greedy bloke also gave Shrewsbury one of the most successful and enjoyable seasons (barring the end obviously) in their history.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 13, 2020 11:52:58 GMT 1
thats because of one thing and one thing only their name wasn't Paul hurst that greedy bloke, who his eye off the ball, did a midnight flit, and our valuables with him the bloke who has become the worst manager in the the football league since leaving us and what is really amazing is, they want this bloke back they are happy with boring football as long as we win there would be a more toxic atmosphere off the pitch than ever before if he stepped foot in the ground again Just for some balance - that greedy bloke also gave Shrewsbury one of the most successful and enjoyable seasons (barring the end obviously) in their history. like I said, fans accept boring football if you win, I didn't think it was fun taking the ball into the corner with best part of 10 minutes of the games left, I often moaned about it as did those around me, yes its forgotten when you win, it was a strange season, but if your best mate runs off with your misses, would you want him back and keep looking at the good times ? ;-)
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 13, 2020 11:58:12 GMT 1
Entertainment? Bring back the dog/fox on the pitch and the brass band at half time. Not to mention the squirrel who I believe got the MOM award that day.
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Post by tdk on Feb 13, 2020 12:00:16 GMT 1
Just for some balance - that greedy bloke also gave Shrewsbury one of the most successful and enjoyable seasons (barring the end obviously) in their history. like I said, fans accept boring football if you win, I didn't think it was fun taking the ball into the corner with best part of 10 minutes of the games left, I often moaned about it as did those around me, yes its forgotten when you win, it was a strange season, but if your best mate runs off with your misses, would you want him back and keep looking at the good times ? ;-) Not if he brought the misses back with him
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