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Post by jamo on Mar 9, 2019 19:56:23 GMT 1
..but the minute the season ends, no matter where we shall be playing our football next season, Mr Ricketts needs to be thanked for his services and relieved of his duties with immediate effect.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 20:07:31 GMT 1
Couldn’t agree more. He’s so out of his depth.
I’d actually get rid now but hey!
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Post by horse01 on Mar 9, 2019 20:09:59 GMT 1
What is the point in waiting??
If it’s going to happen, give the new guy 10 games to weigh up the quality (or lack of) within the squad. Then he can address it in the summer.
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Post by andycapp on Mar 9, 2019 20:14:12 GMT 1
Should get rid now for us to have any chance of staying up, he is absolutely clueless.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 9, 2019 20:15:29 GMT 1
..but the minute the season ends, no matter where we shall be playing our football next season, Mr Ricketts needs to be thanked for his services and relieved of his duties with immediate effect.
Are you suggesting we rotate the manager?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 20:33:28 GMT 1
..but the minute the season ends, no matter where we shall be playing our football next season, Mr Ricketts needs to be thanked for his services and relieved of his duties with immediate effect. Never thought I’d advocate getting rid of a Manager but I totally agree . Our present holder of the post is totally lost but insists on continuing with his ridiculous method of rotation which suits no one. I’ve had enough of the fool , perhaps he sees us as a means of trying out his method of team selection . An experiment if you like . Still , no doubt he was appointed as a cheap and cheerful fix. 7 points out of 9 looks fine if you ignore the previous haul but to achieve 1 point out of 6 against struggling teams and the writings on the wall . Looks like we could be changing places with Bury for next season . Who would have thought that ?
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Post by dachshund on Mar 9, 2019 20:49:03 GMT 1
I don’t think he is the man, at all. A big jaw and a bit of confidence doesn’t make you a manager
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 20:52:50 GMT 1
Gary Bowyer's storming start does make you think 'what if'
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Post by Dale on Mar 9, 2019 21:38:14 GMT 1
Gary Bowyer's storming start does make you think 'what if' Was never interested in coming here apparently.
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Post by Dale on Mar 9, 2019 21:39:36 GMT 1
..but the minute the season ends, no matter where we shall be playing our football next season, Mr Ricketts needs to be thanked for his services and relieved of his duties with immediate effect. I don't disagree with any of that, his needless tinkering and dull tactics to avoid defeat at all costs drives me crazy, but what made John Askey better than Ricketts?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 21:43:23 GMT 1
Gary Bowyer's storming start does make you think 'what if' Was never interested in coming here apparently. Because his wife has been or was very ill at the time and that is why he left Blackpool FC
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Post by shrewsace on Mar 9, 2019 22:04:28 GMT 1
Probably the worst appointment in my lifetime.
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Post by Scarecrow on Mar 10, 2019 0:58:43 GMT 1
Probably the worst appointment in my lifetime. Radcliffe.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2019 1:00:10 GMT 1
yeah, maybe if we could just get a manger that wins games not sure why anyone hadn't thought if it earlier
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Post by shrewswolf on Mar 10, 2019 1:24:43 GMT 1
Probably the worst appointment in my lifetime. Radcliffe. I’m fairly young so don’t really remember his days enough, so Shrewsace hits the nail on the head for me. I remember Rickett’s taking over and being delighted, he was taking on a team in form and 7 points clear, it was the perfect role! Ever since, we’ve gone backwards. Under Askey we had a ‘style’, we were toothless, but you could see what we were trying to do. We were as entertaining as a goal shy team could be, really. Players didn’t like him, some of the fan base got sick of no goals to cheer - fair enough. Ricketts, though, doesn’t even have a style. I hear him obsess over plans but it’s clear the players don’t know what that plan is from one week to the next, they don’t even know if they will stay in the team after a good performance ffs. The whole Ricketts saga feels like an experiment, a ‘quick, we best get someone in’ shambles. The FA Cup aside, I’ve hardly ever been entertained by Ricketts-ball and his post match analysis is frankly beserk. We won 2 in a row and I still thought we’d lose today. For every little corner we appeared to turn - excellent against 10 men, excellent first half against Doncaster - we were immediately back to square one despite the points gained - P’boro better 11 vs 11, and 10 vs 10, Doncaster absolutely killing us all 2nd half. We aren’t good enough under this guy. He might keep us up but I’d still want him gone. We need to sell season tickets and I’ve no faith in him. I wouldn’t even fancy us to challenge in League Two if we went down & kept this guy.
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Mar 10, 2019 1:28:33 GMT 1
You're stuck with him.....and he's on a two-and-a-half year contract. You're still paying off Askey...who won 5 of his last 6 games. Although, contracts mean nothing in football these days, I'll wager my my collection of programmes and fanzines for charity that he doesn't leave till after the season. I'll drive down to the New Meadow otherwise and leave them in carrier bags outside the STFC club office doorstep. That's a promise. He might even do the remarkable! Shrewsbury stay up on goal difference etc And Roland will give him the benefit of the doubt for the first 10 games of next season? After all? As football cliches go...'This wasn't Ricketts' side'. It's not 'his team'
You're stuck with him.
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Post by horse01 on Mar 10, 2019 1:57:40 GMT 1
You're stuck with him.....and he's on a two-and-a-half year contract. You're still paying off Askey...who won 5 of his last 6 games. Although, contracts mean nothing in football these days, I'll wager my my collection of programmes and fanzines for charity that he doesn't leave till after the season. I'll drive down to the New Meadow otherwise and leave them in carrier bags outside the STFC club office doorstep. That's a promise. He might even do the remarkable! Shrewsbury stay up on goal difference etc And Roland will give him the benefit of the doubt for the first 10 games of next season? After all? As football cliches go...'This wasn't Ricketts' side'. It's not 'his team' You're stuck with him. Of Askey’s last 6 games, we won 2 (Wimbledon away, Barnsley home), drew 1 (Salford home) and lost 3 (Oxford away, Sunderland home, Fleetwood away)
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Post by theriverside on Mar 10, 2019 8:23:17 GMT 1
I'll wager my my collection of programmes and fanzines for charity that he doesn't leave till after the season. Excellent gesture, you donate £100 to the charity of my choice and I'll drop them in the nearest skip for you.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 10, 2019 10:40:47 GMT 1
Still got mixed feelings about Ricketts
Think he inherited a squad from Askey with some good players in it, but overall one that is very much a mismatch of players that don’t really work as a collective and had no obvious style of play which works to get the best out of them. Askey himself was probably hampered by the summer transfer issues, but it’s a really unbalanced squad.
Rickets has tried to address that with signings like Ro Williams and Campbell, but is still left with a squad that doesn’t really work. Think any of us can make a case for different formations, players in certain roles and style of play and make a good case for that formation. But we’re now in March and really should have sorted that out months ago
My big worry with Ricketts - and it was at the time he was appointed - is his lack of experience of management full stop. It must be difficult enough learning how to manage characters, formations, scouting opposition etc without the added pressure of a relegation campaign as well.
He just looks like someone trying a different thing each week like an office manager promoted to early in his career, referring to a “how to manage” book and trying a different chapter each week. Its panic management with no strategy.
To me it was nuts of the club to appoint such an inexperienced manager at the time we did, when league one is really a very tough hard nosed league where mistakes show up really easily.
If we could get an assistant in short term with some league one management experience that might help. As it is Ricketts seems to be left to fend for himself and it’s doing him and the club no favours
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 10, 2019 11:12:20 GMT 1
Still got mixed feelings about Ricketts Think he inherited a squad from Askey with some good players in it, but overall one that is very much a mismatch of players that don’t really work as a collective and had no obvious style of play which works to get the best out of them. Askey himself was probably hampered by the summer transfer issues, but it’s a really unbalanced squad. I think so too. I think its a squad that doesn't seem catered for whatever he is trying to do, for whatever formation and tactics he wants to play. We have probably our best attacking threat in Whalley, I don't think he knows what to do with him but being our best attacking threat he feels he needs to include him somehow. Now he's wing back. After that we have Campbell and Okenabirhie who should be more than a handful for anyone in the division but we're just not able to get the best out of them, I have no idea whether he's even keen on playing two up top but again might be forced to do so because he lacks the players needed to play with just the one up top. I think he's a bit lost at the minute. I think that's why we see so much swapping about... Mind you, he's how many games in to his managerial career. How many games at this level. Perhaps it shouldn't surprise us...
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 10, 2019 11:14:55 GMT 1
Can someone explain to me please why Whalley takes the throw ins? I would have thought we need him to be running about getting in a position to receive the throw. Happy if someone explains it and there is a logical reason.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 10, 2019 13:11:47 GMT 1
Still got mixed feelings about Ricketts Think he inherited a squad from Askey with some good players in it, but overall one that is very much a mismatch of players that don’t really work as a collective and had no obvious style of play which works to get the best out of them. Askey himself was probably hampered by the summer transfer issues, but it’s a really unbalanced squad. I think so too. I think its a squad that doesn't seem catered for whatever he is trying to do, for whatever formation and tactics he wants to play. We have probably our best attacking threat in Whalley, I don't think he knows what to do with him but being our best attacking threat he feels he needs to include him somehow. Now he's wing back. After that we have Campbell and Okenabirhie who should be more than a handful for anyone in the division but we're just not able to get the best out of them, I have no idea whether he's even keen on playing two up top but again might be forced to do so because he lacks the players needed to play with just the one up top. I think he's a bit lost at the minute. I think that's why we see so much swapping about... Mind you, he's how many games in to his managerial career. How many games at this level. Perhaps it shouldn't surprise us... he is learning on the job and that is why i get so irritated they did not appoint an experience assistant, in the interview with the telford manger he said he and ricketts bounce ideas off each other both are equally inexperienced as managers.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 10, 2019 13:17:27 GMT 1
I think so too. I think its a squad that doesn't seem catered for whatever he is trying to do, for whatever formation and tactics he wants to play. We have probably our best attacking threat in Whalley, I don't think he knows what to do with him but being our best attacking threat he feels he needs to include him somehow. Now he's wing back. After that we have Campbell and Okenabirhie who should be more than a handful for anyone in the division but we're just not able to get the best out of them, I have no idea whether he's even keen on playing two up top but again might be forced to do so because he lacks the players needed to play with just the one up top. I think he's a bit lost at the minute. I think that's why we see so much swapping about... Mind you, he's how many games in to his managerial career. How many games at this level. Perhaps it shouldn't surprise us... he is learning on the job and that is why i get so irritated they did not appoint an experience assisted, in the interview with the telford manger he said he and ricketts bounce ideas off each other both are equally inexperienced as managers. Probably cost too much for RW. After all, Coyne and Ramsay are already doubling up as 1st team coach.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 13:23:14 GMT 1
You're stuck with him.....and he's on a two-and-a-half year contract. You're still paying off Askey...who won 5 of his last 6 games. Although, contracts mean nothing in football these days, I'll wager my my collection of programmes and fanzines for charity that he doesn't leave till after the season. I'll drive down to the New Meadow otherwise and leave them in carrier bags outside the STFC club office doorstep. That's a promise. He might even do the remarkable! Shrewsbury stay up on goal difference etc And Roland will give him the benefit of the doubt for the first 10 games of next season? After all? As football cliches go...'This wasn't Ricketts' side'. It's not 'his team' You're stuck with him. Better then being stuck with non league football for minimum 11 years, just
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 10, 2019 13:36:35 GMT 1
The facts are if we survive Ricketts will be given a chance to strengthen in the closed season and start next season in charge. He may or may not have the ability to compete for a mid table finish which would secure his job but can’t see him competing for promotion. Don’t think RW would splash the cash with him incharge and we’d have another £601 k spent with a spin we’d spent more than ever to strengthen...
if we get relagated it would most likely to be after a home defeat to Walsall on the last day of the season and I can’t see him surviving the toxic atmosphere this would create, Roland would have a root and branch review and we be back to square 1.
BC and RW would be under pressure for not bringing Hurst back and making two poor appointments, fans would be divided and the SP would smooth the water somehow.
personally I’d still turn up because unlike some deluded fans who expect success, you don’t support Shrewsbury to witness silky football or success (apart from the odd season) but because you support STFC and lower league football. (Unless it turned really toxic Ricketts stayed and we had to do a Blackpool to see changes made but don’t think our fan base would be up for it and in fairness can’t compare RW with other clubs delusionaly poor owners .... quite)
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 10, 2019 13:38:59 GMT 1
Oh yes I’ll still turn up - renewed my season ticket on Friday.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 10, 2019 13:48:52 GMT 1
The facts are if we survive Ricketts will be given a chance to strengthen in the closed season and start next season in charge. He may or may not have the ability to compete for a mid table finish which would secure his job but can’t see him competing for promotion. Don’t think RW would splash the cash with him incharge and we’d have another £601 k spent with a spin we’d spent more than ever to strengthen... if we get relagated it would most likely to be after a home defeat to Walsall on the last day of the season and I can’t see him surviving the toxic atmosphere this would create, Roland would have a root and branch review and we be back to square 1. BC and RW would be under pressure for not bringing Hurst back and making two poor appointments, fans would be divided and the SP would smooth the water somehow. personally I’d still turn up because unlike some deluded fans who expect success, you don’t support Shrewsbury to witness silky football or success (apart from the odd season) but because you support STFC and lower league football. (Unless it turned really toxic Ricketts stayed and we had to do a Blackpool to see changes made but don’t think our fan base would be up for it and in fairness can’t compare RW with other clubs delusionaly poor owners .... quite) iv bought my season ticket , i wont stop going to game until im physically incapable of attending . i have never left a ground early but with some of the dire games we have played it has been tempting. i dont expect silky skill however it is nice when you see it. just want the team to work hard ,do the basics and play for 90 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 15:26:47 GMT 1
Probably the worst appointment in my lifetime. Radcliffe. Ratcliffe's team missed out on a play-off spot during the '01/02 season. Of course, the next season we went down, but Ratcliffe was seen as a decent appointment at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 15:33:35 GMT 1
My big worry with Ricketts - and it was at the time he was appointed - is his lack of experience of management full stop. It must be difficult enough learning how to manage characters, formations, scouting opposition etc without the added pressure of a relegation campaign as well. Remember, he has a management team around him and a performance analysist. He's not alone. Though the buck stops with Ricketts, it's a collective failing and that includes the players. Personally, I think RW and BC choked and got rid of Askey too early. As for getting rid of Ricketts whatever happens, I really don't see the point. It's clear what type of manager the Club wants, we'll either get lucky, or we won't.
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Post by Mr Brightside on Mar 10, 2019 15:33:53 GMT 1
I wouldn’t even fancy us to challenge in League Two if we went down & kept this guy. ^^ This. ^^
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