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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:37:25 GMT 1
I’m incandescent with rage about something. Might be Waterfall, or perhaps the formation, possibly the choice of subs, not sure yet!!! Sort it out Pab!!! Sean out!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:39:54 GMT 1
The half time entertainment (bloke singing let me entertain you) was the man of the match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:40:21 GMT 1
I do hope Ricketts remembered to wave at the end of the game or there’s going to be some pretty angry fans on here later!!
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Post by wakemanender on Mar 9, 2019 18:41:53 GMT 1
Ive backed the manager and the players and always thought we would be too good to go down. THEN today just a few minutes ago that all changed. WHY. I read on this forum that Gwynneddblue left the game early and is criticising our display. Things are now really that bad and for the first time I am worried.
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Post by horse01 on Mar 9, 2019 18:57:53 GMT 1
That is why I was so p**sed that we didn’t beat Wimbledon last week.
Because Peterborough probably wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for Mr Toney, we were lucky to hold on v Doncaster, yet Wimbledon was where most (if not all) were expecting us to pick up the points.
Back to the norm now? Only 2 away wins all season!! Can’t see us picking up too many more points on the road?!
Our record against teams in the bottom four (at the time of playing them) is appalling.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 9, 2019 19:05:30 GMT 1
Same old story
Keeper stays on line , taps one over instead of catching Both crosses not his fault though , defence like statues
Not enough defenders Too many forwards
I thought ohenberie touched the ball once today The ref touched it twice No point having forwards if we can’t service them or don’t have enough to provide the service And Whaley , I said play him forward , he’s not a defender
Attacking full backs are just that Defenders that can attack Not attackers that can defend, he can’t defend to save his life
I said 4-5-1 which I think was the answer today
And okenberie would have been a decent sub And time for a keeper change The fact Mitchell wasn’t even on the bench was silly
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Post by mattmw on Mar 9, 2019 19:12:27 GMT 1
The results against Doncaster and Peterbrough were a great boost, especially when both those sides are in play-off contention, but arguably winning some of the games we've had recently against relegation rivals would have been more beneficial
What's worrying is that in the last month or so we've played sides down the bottom like Bradford, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon and now Rochdale and only have a couple of draws to show for it. If those types of results continue we're always going to get dragged down into the bottom four battle.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 9, 2019 19:30:27 GMT 1
The results against Doncaster and Peterbrough were a great boost, especially when both those sides are in play-off contention, but arguably winning some of the games we've had recently against relegation rivals would have been more beneficial What's worrying is that in the last month or so we've played sides down the bottom like Bradford, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon and now Rochdale and only have a couple of draws to show for it. If those types of results continue we're always going to get dragged down into the bottom four battle. exactly ; if we are to stay up we need to be more consistent and equally we need to beat the teams around us.
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Post by wayahead on Mar 9, 2019 19:53:04 GMT 1
The results against Doncaster and Peterbrough were a great boost, especially when both those sides are in play-off contention, but arguably winning some of the games we've had recently against relegation rivals would have been more beneficial What's worrying is that in the last month or so we've played sides down the bottom like Bradford, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon and now Rochdale and only have a couple of draws to show for it. If those types of results continue we're always going to get dragged down into the bottom four battle. exactly ; if we are to stay up we need to be more consistent and equally we need to beat the teams around us. Lacking consistency as the team is being rotated constantly.
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Post by horse01 on Mar 9, 2019 20:02:14 GMT 1
How can you possibly have consistent performances when you don’t have a consistent line up??
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 9, 2019 20:18:57 GMT 1
exactly ; if we are to stay up we need to be more consistent and equally we need to beat the teams around us. Lacking consistency as the team is being rotated constantly. it was interesting to hear Gavin Cowan telford manager , in his interview he will be choosing the strongest team regardless of circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 20:20:09 GMT 1
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2019 20:22:09 GMT 1
When Waterfall went up front we looked really dangerous - maybe we should play him up there with Okenabirhie and Campbell ? Second half was desperate until the Waterfall switch - no passion at all; cannot see how we can stay up playing like that.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 9, 2019 20:22:14 GMT 1
it was bad enough listening to it on the radio
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Post by horse01 on Mar 9, 2019 20:33:18 GMT 1
We have a former international defender, and a former international goalkeeper in charge of the squad, yet we can’t defend set pieces??
What do they work on on the training ground?
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Post by MetaShrew on Mar 9, 2019 20:53:02 GMT 1
Rochdale's second was the softest goal I've seen us concede in years. Woeful. Pants wasn't it. Like slow motion. Watching the replay, it becomes a thing of blood-chilling terror. Rated X.
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Post by Coops on Mar 9, 2019 21:00:48 GMT 1
Need to get rid at the end of the season. I preferred askey 😭
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Post by criftins on Mar 9, 2019 21:08:38 GMT 1
Need to get rid at the end of the season. I preferred askey 😭 If we wait till then div 2 next season get rid now whilst we still have half a chance Ricketts is clueless clearly can’t motivate and can’t organise a defence which is criminal given his playing past
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 21:28:51 GMT 1
Ive backed the manager and the players and always thought we would be too good to go down. THEN today just a few minutes ago that all changed. WHY. I read on this forum that Gwynneddblue left the game early and is criticising our display. Things are now really that bad and for the first time I am worried. I'm also worried after what I saw for 85 minutes or so today. I've watched the Town long enough to know how to take the rough with the smooth but what really disappointed me today was 1) the inability to get the basics right and 2) the lack of passion, the lack of desire to compete. I don't go to every game nowadays so perhaps today was hopefully an off day. I sincerely hope it was otherwise we could easily go down.
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Post by shrewsace on Mar 9, 2019 22:08:53 GMT 1
Rochdale are s**t. Managerless s**t at that.
Yet we contrived to be s**tter.
That's it really.
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Post by accordingtome on Mar 9, 2019 22:17:19 GMT 1
First game for several months today.That just reminded me why I stopped going.
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Post by accordingtome on Mar 9, 2019 22:26:36 GMT 1
How many goals have we conceded from set pieces this season! The one thing you can do during training is practice set pieces! Obviously we don't, or we rotate our defenders so much that we get confused! Desperate! yeah but if Whalley takes all the set pieces in training as he does in the proper match then they ain't gonna be difficult to defend!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 9, 2019 22:32:10 GMT 1
How can you possibly have consistent performances when you don’t have a consistent line up?? i agree personally i think the rotation IS aggravating our lack of consistency .Bolton was injured so that change was forced on him. however even if you are struggling with form you hope players will work hard and today to many under performed .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 9, 2019 22:34:15 GMT 1
Ive backed the manager and the players and always thought we would be too good to go down. THEN today just a few minutes ago that all changed. WHY. I read on this forum that Gwynneddblue left the game early and is criticising our display. Things are now really that bad and for the first time I am worried. I'm also worried after what I saw for 85 minutes or so today. I've watched the Town long enough to know how to take the rough with the smooth but what really disappointed me today was 1) the inability to get the basics right and 2) the lack of passion, the lack of desire to compete. I don't go to every game nowadays so perhaps today was hopefully an off day. I sincerely hope it was otherwise we could easily go down. yes it is worrying but dire defending has been an issue all season ,today Rochdale wanted it more and that should worry all of us.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Mar 9, 2019 23:48:00 GMT 1
Waterfall lucky not to go for his usual bufoonery just before half time
Pughy lucky not to go for his usual bufoonery just after half time.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 9, 2019 23:58:47 GMT 1
Waterfall lucky not to go for his usual bufoonery just before half time Pughy lucky not to go for his usual bufoonery just after half time. waterfall took one for the side, got done by a nippy forward, no-ones perfect, could argue he got out of jail second half he produced a great save from their keeper and got on the end of 2 or 3 more corners bytrying to head the ball towards a better placed town player not sure who to blame for the 2 goals yet, but I think there are several candidates for those
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Post by buryshrew on Mar 10, 2019 0:10:10 GMT 1
Rochdale are s**t. Managerless s**t at that. Yet we contrived to be s**tter. That's it really. We didn't just contrive to be sh*tter, but we made them look quite good. That's what really p*ssed me off, they must have thought Christmas had come early!
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Post by shrewswolf on Mar 10, 2019 2:13:11 GMT 1
How many goals have we conceded from set pieces this season! The one thing you can do during training is practice set pieces! Obviously we don't, or we rotate our defenders so much that we get confused! Desperate! yeah but if Whalley takes all the set pieces in training as he does in the proper match then they ain't gonna be difficult to defend! It’s funny you say that as Whalley’s set pieces have been pretty dreadful for quite some time but today, they were excellent. Many found their way to Waterfall as intended & Beckles should have scored 2 from them. That’s one thing that was better this week!
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Post by chestershrew on Mar 10, 2019 9:29:59 GMT 1
We should not concede from as many set pieces as we do, especially with three big centre halves, and players like Norburn, Haynes, and Edwards are all a decent size.
However yesterday a little credit must go to Rochdale.as they scored off two well work set pieces where they managed to get block off markers to get a player free.
We created set piece chances through waterfall, and Beckles could not have placed one of his any better and the keeper made an incredible save lie to his left. And pushed the ball away! Arnold let two cone out forward and they scored one.
I am not anti Arnold, but I do think if you swapped the two keepers yesterday we would have won a game played by two pretty poor sides.
Apart from Whalley I still think there was a lack of urgency in our play, particularly second half when it was needed most. I also think their 10 (Camps?) not only ticked the ball over well, but covered a huge amount of ground and looked like a midfielder doing everything to stop his side get relegated, we could have done with a player doing this for us in the middle of the park.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 10, 2019 9:38:31 GMT 1
Not only was Rochdale's Number 3 left unmarked to put in the shots that led to their 2 goals, but he was also responsible for clearing the ball onto the bar in the last minute of the game.
Agree about Arnold. He pushed two shots back into the goal area. Rochdale should have scored from the first one, and did so from the second.
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