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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 11:23:13 GMT 1
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 25, 2021 11:53:24 GMT 1
Bit quiet here ?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 25, 2021 12:48:18 GMT 1
The remainers have all left on a bosman 😜
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 16:29:27 GMT 1
What is on this thread has no bearing on the current situation in the EU. The clue is in the title "Brexit Agreement" and there is no getting away from the fact that it is (was) a s**t agreement!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 19:28:53 GMT 1
A friend ha been made redundant due to loss of orders from Europe due increased lead times.
Hope this helps.....
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Post by Pilch on Mar 25, 2021 23:09:57 GMT 1
What is on this thread has no bearing on the current situation in the EU. The clue is in the title "Brexit Agreement" and there is no getting away from the fact that it is (was) a s**t agreement!!! to me, Brexit agreement means OUTus on our own and us left to sort out our own problems like the vaccine the vaccine alone has convinced me I ticked the right box 5 years ago sorry that you ticked the wrong one but thankfully it didnt matter ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 23:57:37 GMT 1
What is on this thread has no bearing on the current situation in the EU. The clue is in the title "Brexit Agreement" and there is no getting away from the fact that it is (was) a s**t agreement!!! to me, Brexit agreement means OUTus on our own and us left to sort out our own problems like the vaccine the vaccine alone has convinced me I ticked the right box 5 years ago sorry that you ticked the wrong one but thankfully it didnt matter ;-) Yep glad you acknowledge that you support this barstewardised agreement.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 0:11:29 GMT 1
to me, Brexit agreement means OUTus on our own and us left to sort out our own problems like the vaccine the vaccine alone has convinced me I ticked the right box 5 years ago sorry that you ticked the wrong one but thankfully it didnt matter ;-) Yep glad you acknowledge that you support this barstewardised agreement. have you had your vaccine yet ?
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Post by darkshrew on Mar 26, 2021 7:16:25 GMT 1
What is on this thread has no bearing on the current situation in the EU. The clue is in the title "Brexit Agreement" and there is no getting away from the fact that it is (was) a s**t agreement!!! to me, Brexit agreement means OUTus on our own and us left to sort out our own problems like the vaccine the vaccine alone has convinced me I ticked the right box 5 years ago sorry that you ticked the wrong one but thankfully it didnt matter ;-) Or you could say that if we had stayed the EU would not have gone down the path that it has and we would all be better off ? The EU is worse off without us, just as we are worse off outside the EU.
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Post by shrewder on Mar 26, 2021 8:31:04 GMT 1
to me, Brexit agreement means OUTus on our own and us left to sort out our own problems like the vaccine the vaccine alone has convinced me I ticked the right box 5 years ago sorry that you ticked the wrong one but thankfully it didnt matter ;-) Or you could say that if we had stayed the EU would not have gone down the path that it has and we would all be better off ? The EU is worse off without us, just as we are worse off outside the EU. Totally agree. The trouble with this subject is that the majority of us are not at the sharp end where the real impact or benifits are felt. Many businesses are really suffering as a result of this decision. Yes there will be those that have seen benefits as well. Yes the decision was the will of the people. The Government's role now is to ensure that those parts of the economy that are really suffering are supported through the difficult times ahead. Some take the view , tough it's happened get on with it. That is not the way forward and a future UK where because of Brexit many businesses ha e been lost is not acceptable.
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Post by welshdan on Mar 26, 2021 8:51:14 GMT 1
That’s a key thing for me and why there is such a different opinion on brexit.
Some people go for the “I’m alright jack” approach and sod others, whilst some think of wider implications.
We seem happy to receive half of the vaccines we have issued from the EU countries and have exported none produced in the UK, but get upset when the EU talk of stopping exports. (Info from internet so of course has possibility to be wrong)
There were always upsides and downsides to brexit, and personally not bothered about EU per se but the benefits being in a trading bloc offerred. I think I may have said this before but the thing I always disliked was the negative attitude driving the whole brexit campaign.
Each to their own and tend to stay out of brexit discussions due to anger from both sides it tends to attract
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Mar 26, 2021 10:04:45 GMT 1
So its the leavers who are struggling to get over it then? For once this thread was dead and buried.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 11:21:45 GMT 1
Or you could say that if we had stayed the EU would not have gone down the path that it has and we would all be better off ? The EU is worse off without us, just as we are worse off outside the EU. Totally agree. The trouble with this subject is that the majority of us are not at the sharp end where the real impact or benifits are felt. Many businesses are really suffering as a result of this decision. Yes there will be those that have seen benefits as well. Yes the decision was the will of the people. The Government's role now is to ensure that those parts of the economy that are really suffering are supported through the difficult times ahead. Some take the view , tough it's happened get on with it. That is not the way forward and a future UK where because of Brexit many businesses ha e been lost is not acceptable. Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought
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Post by shrewder on Mar 26, 2021 11:27:40 GMT 1
Totally agree. The trouble with this subject is that the majority of us are not at the sharp end where the real impact or benifits are felt. Many businesses are really suffering as a result of this decision. Yes there will be those that have seen benefits as well. Yes the decision was the will of the people. The Government's role now is to ensure that those parts of the economy that are really suffering are supported through the difficult times ahead. Some take the view , tough it's happened get on with it. That is not the way forward and a future UK where because of Brexit many businesses ha e been lost is not acceptable. Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought Possibly but excessive paper work is the main issue that businesses highlights, meaning for many can no longer afford the cost to export to the EU.
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Post by servernaside on Mar 26, 2021 13:52:12 GMT 1
Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought Possibly but excessive paper work is the main issue that businesses highlights, meaning for many can no longer afford the cost to export to the EU. This would be the same 'excessive paperwork' that firms have to deal with when exporting to countries outside the EU. Mind you it would not surprise me that the sclerotic EU has more onerous paperwork requirements than anywhere else in the world.
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Post by darkshrew on Mar 26, 2021 17:08:13 GMT 1
Totally agree. The trouble with this subject is that the majority of us are not at the sharp end where the real impact or benifits are felt. Many businesses are really suffering as a result of this decision. Yes there will be those that have seen benefits as well. Yes the decision was the will of the people. The Government's role now is to ensure that those parts of the economy that are really suffering are supported through the difficult times ahead. Some take the view , tough it's happened get on with it. That is not the way forward and a future UK where because of Brexit many businesses ha e been lost is not acceptable. Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 17:25:06 GMT 1
Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ?
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Post by shrewder on Mar 26, 2021 17:28:24 GMT 1
Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought Yes it was condescending but chose to ignore that fact ,otherwise you risk being accused of something.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 17:32:23 GMT 1
No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought Yes it was condescending but chose to ignore that fact ,otherwise you risk being accused of something. unfortunately I'm not Sherlock for this one can you explain what that means ?
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Post by venceremos on Mar 26, 2021 17:37:22 GMT 1
No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ? 0.7%? Not true, apparently: fullfact.org/europe/how-many-businesses-export-eu/But the percentage of businesses isn't really the point, is it? Vastly more important than that is the proportion of the UK's export business that's done with the EU. That's 43%. If you want to see the paperwork, have a look on social media. A lot of exporters have illustrated their problems there. Or have a look at some of the export sectors whose EU business has fallen off a cliff since January. But never mind, eh? It's only 43% of our exports that we've chosen to damage.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 17:55:50 GMT 1
the full facts ? more like zero facts which they kind of admit every other sentence
of course before Brexit, Brussels made everything easy simple and straightforward for all ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 18:00:49 GMT 1
No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ? From first hand experience. When exporting to the EU I have a choice of 2 detailed forms to fill in, when previously there were none
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Post by servernaside on Mar 26, 2021 18:15:17 GMT 1
can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ? From first hand experience. When exporting to the EU I have a choice of 2 detailed forms to fill in, when previously there were none Is that such a big deal? What about exporting to non-EU countries?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 18:15:55 GMT 1
can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ? From first hand experience. When exporting to the EU I have a choice of 2 detailed forms to fill in, when previously there were none out of interest do you have a link to these forms ?
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Post by scooter on Mar 26, 2021 18:22:39 GMT 1
No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 19:10:49 GMT 1
but it doesnt say how much he is exporting or why the costs are more expensive, again this could be due to covid
does he still need to put a tape measure around each fish too ?
they charge £45 to deliver 36 oysters to France I paid £41.20 for a packet to arrive from Anvin, France on sunday
sounds about the going rate
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Post by Mortgagehound on Mar 26, 2021 19:36:53 GMT 1
People love to moan and many don’t like change.
The EU have shown their true colours since we left. nd the Vaccine debacle shows the disadvantages of centralisation. It also demonstrates what our great nation can achieve on its own.
Instead of purely and relentlessly looking for problems, try focusing on opportunities. In my industry lots of ‘experts’ told me that house prices would crash if we voted to leave EU.......instead the property market and related industries are booming.
Let’s get our positive heads on👍
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 20:09:40 GMT 1
that bloke used to moan well before Brexit was thought of
maybe he should take his own advice
or maybe blame himself and not everyone else
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Post by tdk on Mar 26, 2021 20:11:31 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 21:51:00 GMT 1
how are the sales in Gin in comparison ? whisky was dying on its feet in the early 80s, but more recently has been taking up a little more space on the supermarket shelves last few years you maybe have noticed that gin is the new trend, caught up and left whisky behind, at one point you'd go to a shop and it will be Gordons or Beefeater take it or leave it, now there are twice as many gins as whiskies, even in most pubs you are lucky if you can find a nice single malt and yet the gin selection is in your face no wonder they have a stockpile, lets not blame Brexit for everything and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave
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