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Post by highlandshrew on Mar 2, 2021 13:09:39 GMT 1
Could those people who are describing Corbyn as a 'Marxist' please outline which of his political beliefs qualifies him for this title?
As far as I can recall 'pacifism' has little relevance to the doctrines of Mark & Engels.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 2, 2021 13:11:49 GMT 1
Real patriotism is a willingness to challenge the government when it's wrong. Ron Paul.
My kind of loyalty was loyalty to one's country, not to its institutions or its office-holders. Mark Twain
Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. Edward Abbey
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 15:58:08 GMT 1
Patriotism gets people killed. Nicko
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Post by armchairfan on Mar 2, 2021 16:46:12 GMT 1
Patriotism gets people killed. Nicko And life itself has a 100% mortality rate.....!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 2, 2021 18:02:15 GMT 1
Patriotism gets people killed. Nicko And life itself has a 100% mortality rate.....! do you have any proof of this ?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 2, 2021 18:12:10 GMT 1
Stating the obvious gets you the sack. Ant Middleton
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 3, 2021 7:38:41 GMT 1
The incompetence of this government keeps showing itself to us all and still people line up on here to defend them.
Take George Eustice for example the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. He penned a letter to the EU Commissioner for Health and Food Safety Stella Kyriakides claiming to be surprised that the commission had changed its position on the importation of live bivalve molluscs from waters classified as B grade, claiming there was no scientific reason for the change. Funnily enough Ms Kyriakides wrote back reminding him that he had signed a letter back in December to stakeholders stating that the export of live bivalves from class B waters would not be possible. If the person in charge knew that this was the case and even warned people involved in the industry back in December that this would be the case is incapable of reading the very letters he signs what chance that the rest of the people that voted for this have read the rules properly. He even had the cheek to claim in the letter that this wasn't in the spirit of cooperation and collaboration that he expected from the EU. What did expect the EU to do? Waive the rules for one of the very countries that helped develop these rules and then decided that they were unfair after they left the EU and became, by their own choice, a third country?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 9:24:15 GMT 1
I saw an interesting picture on Twitter where a company that exports veterinary products to the EU have gone from zero paperwork, to a large table-full and on the floor amount of paperwork.
I'm disappointed. Farage said we would get rid of the red-tape.
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Post by Exkeeper on Mar 3, 2021 15:27:56 GMT 1
I saw an interesting picture on Twitter where a company that exports veterinary products to the EU have gone from zero paperwork, to a large table-full and on the floor amount of paperwork. I'm disappointed. Farage said we would get rid of the red-tape. We would have been far better to have got rid of Farage.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 3, 2021 18:03:05 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:05:35 GMT 1
The Wildlife Trusts, which threatened legal action, said it was " delighted" by the decision to not use the pesticide. But it added: "This stay of execution does not change the underlying issue - that the neonicotinoid could be allowed in the future."
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Post by servernaside on Mar 4, 2021 17:07:25 GMT 1
The Wildlife Trusts, which threatened legal action, said it was " delighted" by the decision to not use the pesticide. But it added: "This stay of execution does not change the underlying issue - that the neonicotinoid could be allowed in the future." Ooh ! A giant meteorite might strike planet earth 'in the future'.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 4, 2021 17:22:52 GMT 1
The Wildlife Trusts, which threatened legal action, said it was " delighted" by the decision to not use the pesticide. But it added: "This stay of execution does not change the underlying issue - that the neonicotinoid could be allowed in the future." Ooh ! A giant meteorite might strike planet earth 'in the future'. It might, but I think it's far more likely that this bee harming chemical will be allowed on a temporary basis, it was only stood down this year because of the recent spell of cold weather: 'The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) says to justify use of the pesticide, its predictions had to show that the virus would reach a certain level. "In the event, that pest threshold was not passed so this seed treatment will not be used this year", Mr Eustice added'.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 4, 2021 23:15:40 GMT 1
If a giant asteroid had hit we would have made some response to the consequent disaster. But the multi-species extinctions, destabilising weather patterns and loss of soil fertility will creep up on us. The things about complex systems like the biosphere is that it can roll with a lot of hits and compensate for them and then - suddenly - it can't. We won't do anything about until it is too late - which it may already be. But that's fine - the fish in British waters are happy.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 5, 2021 8:11:57 GMT 1
Not 100% but isn't the UK inline with the EU on this anyhow, as wasn't it given the OK to use (again albeit temporarily) in France (maybe France, don't recall)? Pretty sure there was a bit of a fuss made when it was announced that it was to be used in the UK as some were saying that the UK (after leaving the EU) were lowing standards. But it turned out it can and was was also being granted temporary use in the EU too.
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 5, 2021 8:23:36 GMT 1
Not 100% but isn't the UK inline with the EU on this anyhow, as wasn't it given the OK to use (again albeit temporarily) in France (maybe France, don't recall)? Pretty sure there was a bit of a fuss made when it was announced that it was to be used in the UK as some wee saying that the UK (after leaving the EU) were lowing standards. But it turned out it can and was was also being granted temporary use in the EU too. Oh that's OK then. France used a loophole to get temporary permission, so if they can use it we can too.
The race to the bottom continues apace
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Post by northwestman on Mar 8, 2021 17:37:00 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/08/boris-johnsons-brexit-northern-ireland-customs-union-borderThe latest car crash is Johnson’s decision to abrogate yet again the Northern Ireland protocol with the EU. He is refusing to regulate a customs border in Belfast. Since this implies breaching EU customs control, Brussels is angry and is threatening legal action “very soon”. We have previously seen problems with some food supplies getting to Northern Ireland as a result of the end of the initial Brexit transition period at the start of the year. Trade is not about chauvinist rhetoric but about people’s lives. As the “grace periods” come to an end, it is clear that Johnson must quickly decide what to do, whether to erect customs barriers around the six counties, incidentally breaking the Good Friday agreement, or erect them around Belfast dock. The first would be a logistical and emotional nightmare. It would probably drive the north’s eventual reunion with the south – and much strife in the process. Or he must do the EU’s bidding, barricade Belfast and enrage the unionists, which he has twice refused to do in illegal breach of the Northern Ireland protocol. He simply must decide.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 18:56:02 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/08/boris-johnsons-brexit-northern-ireland-customs-union-borderThe latest car crash is Johnson’s decision to abrogate yet again the Northern Ireland protocol with the EU. He is refusing to regulate a customs border in Belfast. Since this implies breaching EU customs control, Brussels is angry and is threatening legal action “very soon”. We have previously seen problems with some food supplies getting to Northern Ireland as a result of the end of the initial Brexit transition period at the start of the year. Trade is not about chauvinist rhetoric but about people’s lives. As the “grace periods” come to an end, it is clear that Johnson must quickly decide what to do, whether to erect customs barriers around the six counties, incidentally breaking the Good Friday agreement, or erect them around Belfast dock. The first would be a logistical and emotional nightmare. It would probably drive the north’s eventual reunion with the south – and much strife in the process. Or he must do the EU’s bidding, barricade Belfast and enrage the unionists, which he has twice refused to do in illegal breach of the Northern Ireland protocol. He simply must decide. Simple..... leave it as it is, and if the EU want to make a customs border.... let em, they can pay for it and so on....
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Post by Exkeeper on Mar 8, 2021 19:02:58 GMT 1
Anything that annoys Arlene Foster is fine with me - she annoyed the hell out of me.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Mar 10, 2021 12:12:34 GMT 1
Have to point out how ludicrous the government's claims were that they were going to replace Erasmus with an even better "British scheme"... for anyone wondering this is how it compares. Erasmus is an issue close to my heart as well, will never forgive the government for butchering it.
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Post by Flixton_shrew on Mar 10, 2021 14:32:08 GMT 1
Have to point out how ludicrous the government's claims were that they were going to replace Erasmus with an even better "British scheme"... for anyone wondering this is how it compares. Erasmus is an issue close to my heart as well, will never forgive the government for butchering it. The facts around the new Turing scheme certainly didn't stop Johnson lying in PMQ's less than 90 mins ago by saying it was a better replacement than Erasmus I can only conclude that because the letters 'E' and 'U appear in Erasmus, the Tories decided it had to be axed
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 10, 2021 21:04:06 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/08/boris-johnsons-brexit-northern-ireland-customs-union-borderThe latest car crash is Johnson’s decision to abrogate yet again the Northern Ireland protocol with the EU. He is refusing to regulate a customs border in Belfast. Since this implies breaching EU customs control, Brussels is angry and is threatening legal action “very soon”. We have previously seen problems with some food supplies getting to Northern Ireland as a result of the end of the initial Brexit transition period at the start of the year. Trade is not about chauvinist rhetoric but about people’s lives. As the “grace periods” come to an end, it is clear that Johnson must quickly decide what to do, whether to erect customs barriers around the six counties, incidentally breaking the Good Friday agreement, or erect them around Belfast dock. The first would be a logistical and emotional nightmare. It would probably drive the north’s eventual reunion with the south – and much strife in the process. Or he must do the EU’s bidding, barricade Belfast and enrage the unionists, which he has twice refused to do in illegal breach of the Northern Ireland protocol. He simply must decide. Simple..... leave it as it is, and if the EU want to make a customs border.... let em, they can pay for it and so on.... I'm struggling to make out what would like to see.
You appear to be suggesting that anything leaving the province to the Republic should either go unchecked or the EU put up customs posts, therefore abrogating the British governments responsibility and putting any blame for trouble on to the EU. That is quite sneaky to be honest and it could possibly work, but for one glaring loophole. If Ireland want to sell their products in the UK all they need to do is drive it up to Larne and stick it on a ferry, because there will be no British checkpoints on the island and if the customs border is even only technically on the island the goods can't realistically be checked while moving between different parts of the UK. Unless of course you are suggesting that the British also put up checkpoints, but most of us on here remember how well that went down last time. I'm pretty sure that you of all people wouldn't wish to reignite that particular fire.
There has to be a border somewhere, either on the island or in the Irish Sea and whichever you choose upsets around 50% of the population of Ulster. Staying in the customs union could have negated this issue, but that wouldn't have satisfied the rabid Brexiters.
A common sense solution was never on the agenda unfortunately, due to the ERG tail wagging the Tory dog who was too busy sh**ting in everyone's gardens to care.
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Post by Flixton_shrew on Mar 11, 2021 21:39:14 GMT 1
Govt seems to have given up on taking control of our borders by granting continued smooth passage to imports from the EU while British exporters are saddled with full checks and red tape. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56361229They really are trashing any potential, ahem, Brexit benefits. Can only think that by leaving free passage for things coming into the country, they will let their media chums make the EU out as jobsworth, intransigents for doing what the govt seem to have decided is just too damn difficult...
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Post by Flixton_shrew on Mar 15, 2021 0:11:53 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 17, 2021 11:11:04 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 17, 2021 11:19:26 GMT 1
Just read through doesn’t seem to say if you can simply refuse to pay on the door step, refuse to accept the goods and claim a refund?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 17, 2021 11:39:00 GMT 1
Just read through doesn’t seem to say if you can simply refuse to pay on the door step, refuse to accept the goods and claim a refund? in this part of the article this seems to be what happened when she refused to accept the delivery "Penelope was shocked that the driver asked her to pay the fees if she wanted the parcel or it would be returned. The clothes were sent back to Scotch & Soda and she has been refunded. She says: 'I couldn't take the risk. It was an utter mess."' the sites need to be more transparent , the us site i bought my equipment from stated very clearly that you would pay an extra charge.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 19, 2021 13:07:59 GMT 1
Just read through doesn’t seem to say if you can simply refuse to pay on the door step, refuse to accept the goods and claim a refund? Ive seen these regular ever since I started at royal mail I deliver maybe 1 every other week, not noticed any increase the item is stored securely in the office along with the special deliveries , and the customer gets a postcard style invoice saying they owe a custom fee before the can receive the order they either pay online, send in payment or collect and pay I think I've seen the cost range between £8 and high £20s if they dont pay within about 3 weeks the item will be returned to sender
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