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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 22:12:49 GMT 1
how are the sales in Gin in comparison ? whisky was dying on its feet in the early 80s, but more recently has been taking up a little more space on the supermarket shelves last few years you maybe have noticed that gin is the new trend, caught up and left whisky behind, at one point you'd go to a shop and it will be Gordons or Beefeater take it or leave it, now there are twice as many gins as whiskies, even in most pubs you are lucky if you can find a nice single malt and yet the gin selection is in your face no wonder they have a stockpile, lets not blame Brexit for everything and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave "and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave" So purely selfish then with no concern for any detrimental consequences. That says it all.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 26, 2021 22:46:20 GMT 1
how are the sales in Gin in comparison ? whisky was dying on its feet in the early 80s, but more recently has been taking up a little more space on the supermarket shelves last few years you maybe have noticed that gin is the new trend, caught up and left whisky behind, at one point you'd go to a shop and it will be Gordons or Beefeater take it or leave it, now there are twice as many gins as whiskies, even in most pubs you are lucky if you can find a nice single malt and yet the gin selection is in your face no wonder they have a stockpile, lets not blame Brexit for everything and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave "and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave" So purely selfish then with no concern for any detrimental consequences. That says it all. yes I voted for what I wanted, who did you vote for ? (not that I care)
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 26, 2021 23:06:17 GMT 1
how are the sales in Gin in comparison ? whisky was dying on its feet in the early 80s, but more recently has been taking up a little more space on the supermarket shelves last few years you maybe have noticed that gin is the new trend, caught up and left whisky behind, at one point you'd go to a shop and it will be Gordons or Beefeater take it or leave it, now there are twice as many gins as whiskies, even in most pubs you are lucky if you can find a nice single malt and yet the gin selection is in your face no wonder they have a stockpile, lets not blame Brexit for everything and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave "and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave" So purely selfish then with no concern for any detrimental consequences. That says it all. Shock horror someone votes for what they want/believe in Could easily reverse it and say you were selfish for not voting for what the majority wanted. Only I won’t be as stupid
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 23:53:02 GMT 1
"and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave" So purely selfish then with no concern for any detrimental consequences. That says it all. yes I voted for what I wanted, who did you vote for ? (not that I care) You don't care. That says it all also. Therefore, pointless giving an answer.
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Post by tdk on Mar 26, 2021 23:53:53 GMT 1
how are the sales in Gin in comparison ? whisky was dying on its feet in the early 80s, but more recently has been taking up a little more space on the supermarket shelves last few years you maybe have noticed that gin is the new trend, caught up and left whisky behind, at one point you'd go to a shop and it will be Gordons or Beefeater take it or leave it, now there are twice as many gins as whiskies, even in most pubs you are lucky if you can find a nice single malt and yet the gin selection is in your face no wonder they have a stockpile, lets not blame Brexit for everything and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave Dunno. I'm a wine drinker (until pubs open)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 23:57:30 GMT 1
"and in my case I voted Brexit to take control of the borders, I know it will cause problems to some but there was 2 options , remain or leave" So purely selfish then with no concern for any detrimental consequences. That says it all. Shock horror someone votes for what they want/believe in Could easily reverse it and say you were selfish for not voting for what the majority wanted. Only I won’t be as stupid No mention of belief in his response. "Could easily reverse it and say you were selfish for not voting for what the majority wanted. Only I won’t be as stupid" Hmm. I would have to be clairvoyant to do that.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 27, 2021 0:57:48 GMT 1
yes I voted for what I wanted, who did you vote for ? (not that I care) You don't care. That says it all also. Therefore, pointless giving an answer. if that says it all , perhaps you'll stop questioning the majority then
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 8:10:41 GMT 1
You don't care. That says it all also. Therefore, pointless giving an answer. if that says it all , perhaps you'll stop questioning the majority then Is that the majority that didn't actually vote for Brexit or the majority that didn't actually vote for Johnson?
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Post by darkshrew on Mar 27, 2021 10:21:30 GMT 1
No s**t Sherlock. Splitting the two is pretty difficult in most areas now but the leaving the EU trading block without any deal in our largest trade surplus sector and requiring significant additional and new paperwork for the import and export of goods with our biggest trading partner (in similar condescending terms) is perhaps having a very small knock on effect ? just a thought can you give some examples of this paperwork ? and how it hinders the 0.7% of uk businesses that actually export to the eu ? I appreciate that you write things to be provocative, but really you can be a bit of an annoying tit. I could play the game you play and respond - "where is your evidence that COVID has affected anything - I want to see the proof for your baseless assertions" but really... It is obvious that Brexit removes frictionless trade that will have an impact on costs, profitability and trade; just as it is obvious that COVID has changed certain work patterns that have equally impacted on costs, profitability and trade. Equally I doubt that you are really unaware of the phrase that you question; but in the unlikely event that you are being genuine you could have looked it up on the internet (like most things that you faux question) - I attach a link to help prevent you getting distracted www.slanglang.net/no-s**t-sherlock/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 10:56:06 GMT 1
if that says it all , perhaps you'll stop questioning the majority then Is that the majority that didn't actually vote for Brexit or the majority that didn't actually vote for Johnson? The majority of people who voted, voted for Brexit... that is undeniable
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Post by Flixton_shrew on Mar 27, 2021 11:31:27 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Mar 27, 2021 11:46:45 GMT 1
if that says it all , perhaps you'll stop questioning the majority then Is that the majority that didn't actually vote for Brexit or the majority that didn't actually vote for Johnson? On this thread if I remember right I’m selfish if for voting out Old people should have been able to vote out abstainers were selfish for not voting remain Under 18s should have been allowed to vote as you thought they would vote remain and you were the only normal voter you are probably the type of guy who only wanted to remain to make going abroad easier 😜
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 27, 2021 12:18:17 GMT 1
Is that the majority that didn't actually vote for Brexit or the majority that didn't actually vote for Johnson? The majority of people who voted, voted for Brexit... that is undeniable The majority of people that voted in 2019 didn't vote Tory.....that is undeniable too
If the will of 48% had been considered during the Brexit negotiations most remainers would have been, if not happy, at least more content and some of us would have given our support. As it is we were constantly told 'you lost, get over it' and that has only entrenched our views.
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 27, 2021 12:23:09 GMT 1
Totally agree. The trouble with this subject is that the majority of us are not at the sharp end where the real impact or benifits are felt. Many businesses are really suffering as a result of this decision. Yes there will be those that have seen benefits as well. Yes the decision was the will of the people. The Government's role now is to ensure that those parts of the economy that are really suffering are supported through the difficult times ahead. Some take the view , tough it's happened get on with it. That is not the way forward and a future UK where because of Brexit many businesses ha e been lost is not acceptable. Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought And so it begins.
How many years are we going to have to suffer the effects of Brexit only to told that we're still living with the effects of Covid and it's nothing to do with Brexit?
Ten years of austerity were blamed on the previous Labour government, so I'm sure that the Tories can blame Covid for at least that long.
Covid19 has been manna from heaven for the average Brexit supporter, because any hardships can be blamed on the virus and Brexit will continue to get a free pass.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 12:29:15 GMT 1
Is that the majority that didn't actually vote for Brexit or the majority that didn't actually vote for Johnson? On this thread if I remember right I’m selfish if for voting out Old people should have been able to vote out abstainers were selfish for not voting remain Under 18s should have been allowed to vote as you thought they would vote remain and you were the only normal voter you are probably the type of guy who only wanted to remain to make going abroad easier 😜 No. I might have mentioned this before only very recently that it has had an effect on my business (extra red tape) and that was always a known before the vote if we were not to remain in the free trade area.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 27, 2021 12:29:32 GMT 1
Maybe lockdown and covid are having just a very small Knock on effect Just a thought And so it begins.
How many years are we going to have to suffer the effects of Brexit only to told that we're still living with the effects of Covid and it's nothing to do with Brexit?
Ten years of austerity were blamed on the previous Labour government, so I'm sure that the Tories can blame Covid for at least that long.
Covid19 has been manna from heaven for the average Brexit supporter, because any hardships can be blamed on the virus and Brexit will continue to get a free pass.
I must admit covid was such a blessing for me here I sit, still shielding, using up my annual leave or I dont get paid, having not been paid for 3 months last year my dad would be dead as a result of covid restrictions had I not got involved and kicked up a fuss, as for shielding ( I've come in contact with more people in the last 2-3 weeks than I can remember trying to achieve what the NHS couldn't ) I've watched the town about 3 or 4 times in 12 months not had a decent beer for as long as I can remember and I'm still waiting for a simple procedure wow , covid my best friend
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Post by Pilch on Mar 27, 2021 12:32:03 GMT 1
On this thread if I remember right I’m selfish if for voting out Old people should have been able to vote out abstainers were selfish for not voting remain Under 18s should have been allowed to vote as you thought they would vote remain and you were the only normal voter you are probably the type of guy who only wanted to remain to make going abroad easier 😜 No. I might have mentioned this before only very recently that it has had an effect on my business (extra red tape) and that was always a known before the vote if we were not to remain in the free trade area. too vague to mean anything
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 27, 2021 12:35:47 GMT 1
And so it begins.
How many years are we going to have to suffer the effects of Brexit only to told that we're still living with the effects of Covid and it's nothing to do with Brexit?
Ten years of austerity were blamed on the previous Labour government, so I'm sure that the Tories can blame Covid for at least that long.
Covid19 has been manna from heaven for the average Brexit supporter, because any hardships can be blamed on the virus and Brexit will continue to get a free pass.
I must admit covid was such a blessing for me here I sit, still shielding, using up my annual leave or I dont get paid, having not been paid for 3 months last year my dad would be dead as a result of covid restrictions had I not got involved and kicked up a fuss, as for shielding ( I've come in contact with more people in the last 2-3 weeks than I can remember trying to achieve what the NHS couldn't ) I've watched the town about 3 or 4 times in 12 months not had a decent beer for as long as I can remember and I'm still waiting for a simple procedure wow , covid my best friend Wow. I don't think I've seen such a self pitying post on here in all the time I've been on B&A
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Post by Pilch on Mar 27, 2021 12:42:47 GMT 1
I must admit covid was such a blessing for me here I sit, still shielding, using up my annual leave or I dont get paid, having not been paid for 3 months last year my dad would be dead as a result of covid restrictions had I not got involved and kicked up a fuss, as for shielding ( I've come in contact with more people in the last 2-3 weeks than I can remember trying to achieve what the NHS couldn't ) I've watched the town about 3 or 4 times in 12 months not had a decent beer for as long as I can remember and I'm still waiting for a simple procedure wow , covid my best friend Wow. I don't think I've seen such a self pitying post on here in all the time I've been on B&A it wasn't self pity, its been my life for 12 months it was trashing your pathetic suggestion that covid was sent as a blessing from god I mean how insulting can anyone be ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 12:48:56 GMT 1
The majority of people who voted, voted for Brexit... that is undeniable The majority of people that voted in 2019 didn't vote Tory.....that is undeniable too
If the will of 48% had been considered during the Brexit negotiations most remainers would have been, if not happy, at least more content and some of us would have given our support. As it is we were constantly told 'you lost, get over it' and that has only entrenched our views.
But the referendum was not in 2019, so not sure of relevance
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 27, 2021 13:02:24 GMT 1
Wow. I don't think I've seen such a self pitying post on here in all the time I've been on B&A it wasn't self pity, its been my life for 12 months it was trashing your pathetic suggestion that covid was sent as a blessing from god I mean how insulting can anyone be ? Ooh it's not fair I've barely been to the footy in a year. Get over yourself, it's not like you're the only one.
I've hardly had a decent beer for 12 months. My nephew took over a pub last year, do you think he isn't struggling with a partner and child to provide for?
I want my procedure now and it's not fair that have to wait. How many other people do you think have missed operations in the last year?
My father-in-law died in a nursing home from Covid with dementia and didn't have a single visitor while he was in there. We haven't even been able to bury the ashes yet.
My son-in-law was extremely ill with Covid just after my daughter gave birth to their first child. How much do think we wanted to go over to help out, but couldn't?
Do you see anyone else on here whining like a b***h?
I understand that everyone has struggled one way or another, but we just have to make the best of a bad job.
I stand by statement that Covid has been a boon for anyone arguing that Brexit isn't a failure, because everything that goes wrong is going to blamed on Covid, rather than Brexit.
Yes it has been a hard year for most people, but Brexit is making it a lot worse than it needed to be. Even you can't deny that.
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 27, 2021 13:03:18 GMT 1
The majority of people that voted in 2019 didn't vote Tory.....that is undeniable too
If the will of 48% had been considered during the Brexit negotiations most remainers would have been, if not happy, at least more content and some of us would have given our support. As it is we were constantly told 'you lost, get over it' and that has only entrenched our views.
But the referendum was not in 2019, so not sure of relevance Of course you don't see the relevance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 13:10:47 GMT 1
Is that the majority that didn't actually vote for Brexit or the majority that didn't actually vote for Johnson? The majority of people who voted, voted for Brexit... that is undeniable Absolutely but that was not the original quote. The vote also captures one moment in time unfortunately.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 27, 2021 13:11:41 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/27/brexit-uk-cheese-firm-boss-in-despair-over-ministers-export-adviceThe boss of a Cheshire cheese firm has told of his despair over Brexit after an unexpected meeting with the environment minister resulted in advice to look at the US and Canada markets. Simon Spurrell, the co-founder of the Cheshire Cheese Company, was phoned “out of the blue” for an online meeting with Victoria Prentis after he embarked on a personal crusade involving nearly 100 media interviews in the UK and the EU about his post-Brexit plight. He says the past three months have been among the worst in his career, with a lucrative EU business brought to a halt because of the extra costs and paperwork caused by a hard Brexit. Spurrell has been been left with a £250,000 hole in his export trade with Europe but said Prentis told him in a meeting on Tuesday there was nothing she could do to ease the barriers because the extra paperwork, including health certificates for each consignment of cheese, were mandatory under EU rules. Sales of his £25 to £30 pack of cheeses to individuals were growing and he had planned a £1m warehouse in Macclesfield to fulfil orders. But under the new rules each parcel needs to be accompanied by a health certificate costing £180, making low-value sales unviable. The environment minister and her aides suggested he pursue business in “emerging markets” across the Atlantic where different barriers apply but he explained that the delivery costs were prohibitive. “It was a fairly useless conversation as a whole,” he said.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 27, 2021 13:11:49 GMT 1
Remember, the last few days Brexit comments by remainers were only stirred up by this post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 13:13:24 GMT 1
No. I might have mentioned this before only very recently that it has had an effect on my business (extra red tape) and that was always a known before the vote if we were not to remain in the free trade area. too vague to mean anything Or maybe that underlines your basic comprehension of what Brexit actually means. There again, you don't care.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 13:16:06 GMT 1
But the referendum was not in 2019, so not sure of relevance Of course you don't see the relevance.
You are aware of the difference between a referendum and a general election?
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 27, 2021 14:06:17 GMT 1
Of course you don't see the relevance.
You are aware of the difference between a referendum and a general election? A general election comes with a gaurantee that in five years time you can overturn the result?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 14:12:02 GMT 1
You are aware of the difference between a referendum and a general election? A general election comes with a gaurantee that in five years time you can overturn the result? Nearly.... you might just grasp this sometime soon.... now what about a referendum....
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 27, 2021 14:15:30 GMT 1
A general election comes with a gaurantee that in five years time you can overturn the result? Nearly.... you might just grasp this sometime soon.... now what about a referendum.... A referendum is subject to the rules the government decide, for example they could say that a 75% vote in favour was required or that the result would only be advisory?
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