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Post by bexplorer on May 4, 2021 10:16:48 GMT 1
At the end it would be a huge pay off or relegation. Well, it reminds SR last season but more extreme, better start and worse finish Many say that more than a dozen of players should be released or go. Those he inherited, who won four games in December against top 3 teams and Manager of the month award for SC. Now we should let him bring his own, the same excuse we have seen over the last three, four seasons with no result at all |
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Post by bexplorer on May 9, 2021 15:02:11 GMT 1
should have figured out results under SC in more detail a bit earlier. But better late than never. Well, it reminds SR last season but more extreme, better start and worse finish After recent results need to correct my predictions. 1. A team might stay up with 48 points 2. botom 6 are too poor to trouble us
3. We lose the rest of the games and that will be " one win in twelve" end of SC tenure.
4. Bizarre team selection and tactics, 9 defeats in a row will cause frustration, disappointment and general disbelief in socially distanced management
Play off push next season? Then why have we hit relegation form at the end of the season? Not his players? Those who won four games in December? Askey, Ricketts, Cotterill, different managers, the same boring football |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 17:21:56 GMT 1
After recent results need to correct my predictions. 1. A team might stay up with 48 points 2. botom 6 are too poor to trouble us
3. We lose the rest of the games and that will be " one win in twelve" end of SC tenure.
4. Bizarre team selection and tactics, 9 defeats in a row will cause frustration, disappointment and general disbelief in socially distanced management
Play off push next season? Then why have we hit relegation form at the end of the season? Not his players? Those who won four games in December? Askey, Ricketts, Cotterill, different managers, the same boring football Perhaps you are "supporting" the wrong club then? Just a thought. |
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Post by bexplorer on Aug 7, 2021 10:54:18 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season.
The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 10:57:48 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts. Please, What do you mean exactly? |
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 7, 2021 11:02:17 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Are you mentally stable? |
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Post by shrewder on Aug 7, 2021 11:19:19 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Ok clever dick. Who would you appoint as manager. Also can we have precise chapter and verse on exactly what the tactics should be. If you can't answer this then I would suggest you just shut up and leave the job to the experts. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2021 12:15:37 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Ok clever dick. Who would you appoint as manager. Also can we have precise chapter and verse on exactly what the tactics should be. If you can't answer this then I would suggest you just shut up and leave the job to the experts. According to the experts we just need to score goals , concede few and sign some great players ;/) |
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Post by shrewder on Aug 7, 2021 12:35:27 GMT 1
Ok clever dick. Who would you appoint as manager. Also can we have precise chapter and verse on exactly what the tactics should be. If you can't answer this then I would suggest you just shut up and leave the job to the experts. According to the experts we just need to score goals , concede few and sign some great players ;/) Don't help him. Give him a chance to answer. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2021 18:07:54 GMT 1
According to the experts we just need to score goals , concede few and sign some great players ;/) Don't help him. Give him a chance to answer. At least he gave a fair and to the point opinion , yours was basically if we keep winning we’ll do ok 😝 apart from saying it would have been better on the predictions thread, I’d tread carefully after mocking someone else’s prediction until you know how it turned out |
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Post by shrewder on Aug 7, 2021 18:41:52 GMT 1
Don't help him. Give him a chance to answer. At least he gave a fair and to the point opinion , yours was basically if we keep winning we’ll do ok 😝 apart from saying it would have been better on the predictions thread, I’d tread carefully after mocking someone else’s prediction until you know how it turned out Leopard and spots!!! |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2021 19:14:16 GMT 1
At least he gave a fair and to the point opinion , yours was basically if we keep winning we’ll do ok 😝 apart from saying it would have been better on the predictions thread, I’d tread carefully after mocking someone else’s prediction until you know how it turned out Leopard and spots!!! Leopard and antelope |
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Post by bexplorer on Aug 22, 2021 8:19:41 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts. Please, What do you mean exactly? What i see is that people think that all we need is to sign two, three new players, field our strongest XI and to play like we did against Portsmouth and we'll finally start winning games. As to what i mean, first we need to realize its not about a lack of signings or pre-season games, but it takes a bit more time to come to that. And at the moment too many still trust SC and not ready for a change. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 22, 2021 8:37:41 GMT 1
At least he gave a fair and to the point opinion , yours was basically if we keep winning we’ll do ok 😝 apart from saying it would have been better on the predictions thread, I’d tread carefully after mocking someone else’s prediction until you know how it turned out Leopard and spots!!! an intended insult that has now become a compliment  |
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Post by champagneprince on Aug 22, 2021 8:46:02 GMT 1
SC is just trying to do something different for this club and at the moment it's not working.
That doesn't mean to say it won't work.
To stop being 'same old Shrewsbury' and to become a Burton, Wycombe and Brentford, requires more than we've offered perhaps at any time since Roland took over.
It's a risk. Roland may have to change from being Roland!
It could be an exciting time for us. Maybe our one chance to become the club we all want. Nearly did it with Hurst, but that was more of a fluke IMO. I think we'd have come straight back down had we been victorious at Wembley.
It's going to take a bit of time I think and we have to trust that SC has the right intentions and the right know how.
His record shows he has.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 22, 2021 11:08:09 GMT 1
SC is just trying to do something different for this club and at the moment it's not working. That doesn't mean to say it won't work. To stop being 'same old Shrewsbury' and to become a Burton, Wycombe and Brentford, requires more than we've offered perhaps at any time since Roland took over. It's a risk. Roland may have to change from being Roland! It could be an exciting time for us. Maybe our one chance to become the club we all want. Nearly did it with Hurst, but that was more of a fluke IMO. I think we'd have come straight back down had we been victorious at Wembley. It's going to take a bit of time I think and we have to trust that SC has the right intentions and the right know how. His record shows he has. Straight down with £7-8m TV money banked. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 22, 2021 11:34:13 GMT 1
Ok clever dick. Who would you appoint as manager. Also can we have precise chapter and verse on exactly what the tactics should be. If you can't answer this then I would suggest you just shut up and leave the job to the experts. According to the experts we just need to score goals , concede few and sign some great players ;/) it would be refreshing if we could  |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 22, 2021 11:35:32 GMT 1
SC is just trying to do something different for this club and at the moment it's not working. That doesn't mean to say it won't work. To stop being 'same old Shrewsbury' and to become a Burton, Wycombe and Brentford, requires more than we've offered perhaps at any time since Roland took over. It's a risk. Roland may have to change from being Roland! It could be an exciting time for us. Maybe our one chance to become the club we all want. Nearly did it with Hurst, but that was more of a fluke IMO. I think we'd have come straight back down had we been victorious at Wembley. It's going to take a bit of time I think and we have to trust that SC has the right intentions and the right know how. His record shows he has. i hope he can but with some of the players we have are they good enough to do it? |
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Post by bexplorer on Sept 7, 2021 9:11:27 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward A couple of reasons why we have been struggling last three, four seasons. First the board couldnt pick the right manager and then managers showed us that their managerial skills are outdated and experience is clearly overvalued especially SC who first four weeks apart is quickly becoming a big headache for club attracting all sorts of problems. A solution could be a change in management structure, in my opinion a coach shouldnt manage because it requires special knowledge which they dont have as we all have seen over the last three, four seasons. All our difficulties have showed old school football doesnt work for us anymore and we should be brave and move forward |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 7, 2021 9:14:19 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward A couple of reasons why we have been struggling last three, four seasons. First the board couldnt pick the right manager and then managers showed us that their managerial skills are outdated and experience is clearly overvalued especially SC who first four weeks apart is quickly becoming a big headache for club attracting all sorts of problems. A solution could be a change in management structure, in my opinion a coach shouldnt manage because it requires special knowledge which they dont have as we all have seen over the last three, four seasons. All our difficulties have showed old school football doesnt work for us anymore and we should be brave and move forward I was going to fetch this thread back up yesterday but forgot , one or two won’t like reading it again , I’m glad I backed up your prediction , it was glaringly obvious to some |
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Post by darkshrew on Sept 7, 2021 11:12:18 GMT 1
If we lose on Saturday I think there will be quite a few of us realising that you were onto something that rose tinted glasses prevented us from seeing.
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Post by bexplorer on Oct 20, 2021 10:16:44 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Untill Christmas i am not expecting any improvement not because we dont have good players, its just SC makes them play worse than they can. Hopefully he'll be gone by then otherwise we ll see another poor transfer window. As to potential candidates the board cant have it wrong again and the list shouldnt contain too many names |
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Post by shrewder on Oct 20, 2021 10:46:34 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Untill Christmas i am not expecting any improvement not because we dont have good players, its just SC makes them play worse than they can. Hopefully he'll be gone by then otherwise we ll see another poor transfer window. As to potential candidates the board cant have it wrong again and the list shouldnt contain too many names Ok and who is the genius you have in mind to replace SC? |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Oct 20, 2021 12:15:29 GMT 1
Would expect a poor start to the season, injuries. Tough August and October, worse than last season under SR with 9 points in 13 games. It could be just 5,6 points in 13,14 games this season. The problem i think is our inability to identify the reason why we have been struggling for the last three seasons. In my opinion we should revise some old school managerial ideas and concepts to finally start moving forward Untill Christmas i am not expecting any improvement not because we dont have good players, its just SC makes them play worse than they can. Hopefully he'll be gone by then otherwise we ll see another poor transfer window. As to potential candidates the board cant have it wrong again and the list shouldnt contain too many names Utter tripe, I don’t think Cotterill is doing a bad job with the limited squad that he’s got. |
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 20, 2021 12:28:54 GMT 1
14 games in with 34 remaining.
If we had Leahy & Vela playing last night would we have got something out of the game - probably.
At a minimum we need to be at or above the drop zone and in contact with the teams above as we approach the January window.
Our biggest problem is in attack and sadly Pyke, Bowman and Cosgrove are not good enough. Udoh at best is an impact sub. However every manager in League one is looking for better strikers.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 20, 2021 16:05:33 GMT 1
14 games in with 34 remaining. If we had Leahy & Vela playing last night would we have got something out of the game - probably. At a minimum we need to be at or above the drop zone and in contact with the teams above as we approach the January window. Our biggest problem is in attack and sadly Pyke, Bowman and Cosgrove are not good enough. Udoh at best is an impact sub. However every manager in League one is looking for better strikers. Bowman is a hard worker and brings other into the game at least. Pyke is a complete waste of space and devoid of any talent, the non-league awaits. Cosgrove thinks he's better than he is and puts in zero effort, again non-league/Scotland awaits. Udoh is better as an impact player, though might play well off Bowman given a run of 10 goals together in a 3-5-2. Bloxham is a great prospect who should be eased in throughout the season. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2021 16:24:12 GMT 1
If we had Leahy & Vela playing last night would we have got something out of the game - probably. you never know, we might even have had a shot on target |
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 20, 2021 16:25:37 GMT 1
If we had Leahy & Vela playing last night would we have got something out of the game - probably. you never know, we might even have had a shot on target absolutely  |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2021 16:33:47 GMT 1
Untill Christmas i am not expecting any improvement not because we dont have good players, its just SC makes them play worse than they can. Hopefully he'll be gone by then otherwise we ll see another poor transfer window. As to potential candidates the board cant have it wrong again and the list shouldnt contain too many names Utter tripe, I don’t think Cotterill is doing a bad job with the limited squad that he’s got. fail to prepare prepare to fail the limited squad is one persons fault only www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2021/08/14/steve-cotterill-shrewsbury-town-will-not-be-rushed-into-transfers/I wont be rushed he said, right after playing a game with just 6 subs , 2 of which were keepers  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 16:49:44 GMT 1
Untill Christmas i am not expecting any improvement not because we dont have good players, its just SC makes them play worse than they can. Hopefully he'll be gone by then otherwise we ll see another poor transfer window. As to potential candidates the board cant have it wrong again and the list shouldnt contain too many names Ok and who is the genius you have in mind to replace SC? and Wilbraham, assuming that he would go as well? |
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