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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 7:50:44 GMT 1
Ed you are becoming very boring now as you have made statements and now you are being proved wrong.
Ed we were the best team for until the second goal went in then we seemed to lose our heads for about 10 mins apart from that our midfield were awesome. So please explain when our midfield were so shocking for 35 mins?
Charlton reserves? According to one of their fans they had a strong team out last night i will take their word over yours thanks.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 11, 2010 8:42:55 GMT 1
Martin - FACT only 3 players who started last night for Charlton last night started on Saturday against Bournemouth. Parkinson said he chosen a young team to give them experience. I think I'll take Parkinson's comments against some unknown Charlton fan.
I begin to think you can't see past the half way line, because Charlton could have been two up before they scored. The defence was woeful partly because it was getting little or no support from central midfield.
What is becoming boring Martin is your constant use of inaccurate information and statements. You obviously get too excited to actually watch the football.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 8:46:32 GMT 1
Well Ed everyother shrews fan is loving the football and the excitment apart from you does that say something to you
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 8:49:20 GMT 1
So the defence and the midfield were woeful last night and we beat a decent league 1 team after being 3-0 i think we would all take that.I really hope they are woeful on saturday too.
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 11, 2010 8:51:34 GMT 1
The midfield wasn't the fault. It was just the defence, who were admittedly pretty shocking and had warnings of that ball over the top way before it created a goal. The new Macca looked accomplished, but its not much between him and the other macca tbh. Disley I thought was great. So no real worries about the midfield.
Though to throw one more negative in there, I think Ben Smith is suspect, stuck to his line and lets in most shots on goal so far.
Attacking point of view, brilliant, simply brilliant.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 11, 2010 8:52:12 GMT 1
Ed, at what stage will you actually get a bit excited?
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 11, 2010 8:59:27 GMT 1
Well Ed everyother shrews fan is loving the football and the excitment apart from you does that say something to you Another mis-quote Martin where have I said I am not enjoying it or that I don't think the team is performing well. What I suggest that there needs to be a degree of reality we have won 1 league game and beaten the reserve side of a 1st division club in a very exciting cup match. What you seem unable to recognise, which GT and many fans do, is that there are understandably, after just 2 games, weaknesses in the current team. I am sure these will be addressed. In the meantime Martin carry on dreaming up statements for other people.
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Post by constantinople on Aug 11, 2010 9:01:58 GMT 1
There were a few mistakes last night, but it really does take a massive amount of miserable cynicism to focus on them.
If last night doesn't get you excited, then what does?!
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 9:13:55 GMT 1
Well Ed everyother shrews fan is loving the football and the excitment apart from you does that say something to you Another mis-quote Martin where have I said I am not enjoying it or that I don't think the team is performing well. What I suggest that there needs to be a degree of reality we have won 1 league game and beaten the reserve side of a 1st division club in a very exciting cup match. What you seem unable to recognise, which GT and many fans do, is that there are understandably, after just 2 games, weaknesses in the current team. I am sure these will be addressed. In the meantime Martin carry on dreaming up statements for other people. Ed i dont see anyone else moaning about last night. Last season you wanted to see attacking football and goals flying in and now you got that you still are not happy BTW its 4 games you have seen now i know 2 were friendlies but we still played football in each game.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 9:34:27 GMT 1
Ed here are just a few words that were made on the just back thread.Awesome,exciting,quality,brilliant and so on.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 11, 2010 9:34:47 GMT 1
Another mis-quote Martin where have I said I am not enjoying it or that I don't think the team is performing well. What I suggest that there needs to be a degree of reality we have won 1 league game and beaten the reserve side of a 1st division club in a very exciting cup match. What you seem unable to recognise, which GT and many fans do, is that there are understandably, after just 2 games, weaknesses in the current team. I am sure these will be addressed. In the meantime Martin carry on dreaming up statements for other people. Ed i dont see anyone else moaning about last night. Last season you wanted to see attacking football and goals flying in and now you got that you still are not happy BTW its 4 games you have seen now i know 2 were friendlies but we still played football in each game. So your latest dreaming has come up with the idea I'm not happy. You are right Martin I wouldn't rate all 11 players last night at 10/10 so I hope for improvement. The difference between you and me is that your happy with 7/10 but I guess it is a major improvement to last season's 3/10. I see where you are coming from now Martin if anyone says anything to suggest they are not 100% happy then they are moaning. Maybe you should point that out to Jamo.
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Post by oranjemob on Aug 11, 2010 9:38:02 GMT 1
Shouldn't you two get together for a pint and sort your differences out? Much better than having your 'domestics' in public
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 9:41:16 GMT 1
Shouldn't you two get together for a pint and sort your differences out? Much better than having your 'domestics' in public We have tried that many times last saturday was the latest and the word arse was used
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Post by Jonah on Aug 11, 2010 11:30:37 GMT 1
Ed i dont see anyone else moaning about last night. Last season you wanted to see attacking football and goals flying in and now you got that you still are not happy BTW its 4 games you have seen now i know 2 were friendlies but we still played football in each game. So your latest dreaming has come up with the idea I'm not happy. You are right Martin I wouldn't rate all 11 players last night at 10/10 so I hope for improvement. The difference between you and me is that your happy with 7/10 but I guess it is a major improvement to last season's 3/10. I see where you are coming from now Martin if anyone says anything to suggest they are not 100% happy then they are moaning. Maybe you should point that out to Jamo. 2 wins out of 2 Ed and only the second time the squad has played together competitively. Scored 7 conceded 4 Any chance you will give them time to gel before you criticise? Somebody once said if you score more than the opposition you win games The defence was woeful partly because it was getting little or no support from central midfield. So you are blaming both then? Ed just try to enjoy the moment instead of looking for errors
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 11, 2010 12:02:02 GMT 1
Is this some kind of a witch hunt against someone who proved Simpson supporters wrong or? Anyhows, I doubt very much any Town fan isn’t currently enjoying the fact that we have played two games, won them both, scored loads of goals and have shown the determination and character to come back from behind twice. As the chap says, where has he said he is neither happy or not excited about the two games seen already? However, there are always going to be folk who not only see the good but also identify the bad during a game of football and hope that these can be resolved. What’s wrong with that? You think the manager isn’t doing the very same? 4-3 is a great result, superb entertainment…but it’s not what you want to see each week, the team going 3 down in half hour of football. We don’t want to be in that situation again do we, as its going to take one hell of an effort each and every week to get something out of the game. I’m sure the manager will be telling you he’d rather be winning 4-0, as I am sure a fair few Town fans would too… We don’t want to be 3 down half hour in again if we can help it or?
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 11, 2010 12:16:09 GMT 1
Is this some kind of a witch hunt against someone who proved Simpson supporters wrong or? Anyhows, I doubt very much any Town fan isn’t currently enjoying the fact that we have played two games, won them both, scored loads of goals and have shown the determination and character to come back from behind twice. As the chap says, where has he said he is neither happy or not excited about the two games seen already? However, there are always going to be folk who not only see the good but also identify the bad during a game of football and hope that these can be resolved. What’s wrong with that? You think the manager isn’t doing the very same? 4-3 is a great result, superb entertainment…but it’s not what you want to see each week, the team going 3 down in half hour of football. We don’t want to be in that situation again do we, as its going to take one hell of an effort each and every week to get something out of the game. I’m sure the manager will be telling you he’d rather be winning 4-0, as I am sure a fair few Town fans would too… We don’t want to be 3 down half hour in again if we can help it or? I am sorry but you just can not defend Ed. Have you been to a town game this season just out interest? If you had of been to the Bradford game you would of seen us play great football in the last 20 mins of the game when were down to 10 men the town the p**s out of bradford and should of scored a 4th when we in all honesty we should of been on the back foot.
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Post by monkee on Aug 11, 2010 12:23:32 GMT 1
Is this some kind of a witch hunt against someone who proved Simpson supporters wrong or? he did no such thing, he just complains about every manager because in the end they mostly fail and he will be proved "right" eventually. i am beginning to think that it isnt about the Town with priory/hope/shrewed/teamof79/whatever, its about him proving he is right. the old saying , "a broken clock is right twice a day" has never been more apt. Heavenly, leave shrewed in his corner being a misery, if he doesnt want to be on the happy bus its no skin off the noses of those who are already on board.
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Post by oranjemob on Aug 11, 2010 12:28:40 GMT 1
Is this some kind of a witch hunt against someone who proved Simpson supporters wrong or? Anyhows, I doubt very much any Town fan isn’t currently enjoying the fact that we have played two games, won them both, scored loads of goals and have shown the determination and character to come back from behind twice. As the chap says, where has he said he is neither happy or not excited about the two games seen already? However, there are always going to be folk who not only see the good but also identify the bad during a game of football and hope that these can be resolved. What’s wrong with that? You think the manager isn’t doing the very same? 4-3 is a great result, superb entertainment…but it’s not what you want to see each week, the team going 3 down in half hour of football. We don’t want to be in that situation again do we, as its going to take one hell of an effort each and every week to get something out of the game. I’m sure the manager will be telling you he’d rather be winning 4-0, as I am sure a fair few Town fans would too… We don’t want to be 3 down half hour in again if we can help it or? I am sorry but you just can not defend Ed. Have you been to a town game this season just out interest? If you had of been to the Bradford game you would of seen us play great football in the last 20 mins of the game when were down to 10 men the town the p**s out of bradford and should of scored a 4th when we in all honesty been on the back foot. Leave Stutty alone. He's entitled to defend who he likes. And anyway, Heavenly, haven't you got 'form' when it comes to defending the indefensible? Nick Griffin et al
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Post by Liam on Aug 11, 2010 12:39:47 GMT 1
Not entirely true - he was a Peters fan IIRC, and I think he's been quite complementary about Simpson. No doubt he's a hard man to please, however.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 11, 2010 12:39:51 GMT 1
Is this some kind of a witch hunt against someone who proved Simpson supporters wrong or? Anyhows, I doubt very much any Town fan isn’t currently enjoying the fact that we have played two games, won them both, scored loads of goals and have shown the determination and character to come back from behind twice. As the chap says, where has he said he is neither happy or not excited about the two games seen already? However, there are always going to be folk who not only see the good but also identify the bad during a game of football and hope that these can be resolved. What’s wrong with that? You think the manager isn’t doing the very same? 4-3 is a great result, superb entertainment…but it’s not what you want to see each week, the team going 3 down in half hour of football. We don’t want to be in that situation again do we, as its going to take one hell of an effort each and every week to get something out of the game. I’m sure the manager will be telling you he’d rather be winning 4-0, as I am sure a fair few Town fans would too… We don’t want to be 3 down half hour in again if we can help it or? I am sorry but you just can not defend Ed. Have you been to a town game this season just out interest? If you had of been to the Bradford game you would of seen us play great football in the last 20 mins of the game when were down to 10 men the town the p**s out of bradford and should of scored a 4th when we in all honesty been on the back foot. No, haven't see a game this season as yet. First game will be around Xmas when I am back home. Thats great what you say about the Bradford game, nice to hear. As a Town fan you have to enjoy the now as much as you can, rejoice in a great fightback like that. I'm over the moon just to be in a 2nd round FA or League cup draw!! However like I said, we don't want to be 3 down after half hour each week so its' clear there is still plenty of work to be done yet... And as for defending the chap, folk are putting words into his mouth...he hasn't said he isn't enjoying himself at the games or owt like that. And I am sure he is very happy to have three points on the board and a 2nd round tie in the League cup to look forward to...or maybe he isn't, but he certainly hasn't said as much...
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Post by stfcfan87 on Aug 11, 2010 12:46:55 GMT 1
We were a bit too easily exposed in defence though hence how charlton scored on the counter attack and against the run of play
The football last night was brilliant entertainment, we played good attractive attacking football, plenty of pacey wing play, quick passing, good going forward. Totally different to the utter dross that simpson was serving up with slow lumbering forwards, defensive midfielders on the wings - and that some people on this thread were so happy with.
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Post by monkee on Aug 11, 2010 13:00:07 GMT 1
Not entirely true - he was a Peters fan IIRC, and I think he's been quite complementary about Simpson. No doubt he's a hard man to please, however. tbh, i dont remember his posts pre simpson, i know he was compliamentary about peters in comparison to Simpson but i wonder if that was just a stick to beat simpson with. the nearest i remember him being to complimentary about simpson was more damning him with feint praise.
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Post by Shrewd Operator on Aug 11, 2010 13:02:55 GMT 1
Ed has a point, but it is hard to find faults with our start to the season. We conceded 1 on Saturday then made up for it with a convincing win over a side who are expected to finish pretty high up the table, last night we conceded 3 whilst dominating the first half, we made up for conceding the 3 by scoring 4. Surely this type of football is what everyone wants ?
We're never going to be a team that absolutely blows teams out the water and win's without conceding week in week out because we're Shrewsbury and that isn't how things work, steady improvements are happening at the moment but atleast we're going in the right direction guys.
Future's looking pretty bright imo we've got a cup draw which might pluck up a tie such as Everton or Leeds away, Hart should start tonight meaning Roland recieve's 500k and the next few fixtures look very winnable.
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 11, 2010 13:32:15 GMT 1
And presumably Heavenly still wishes LEGEND Simmo was still in post and would support the immediate re-instatement of said LEGEND if it could be negotiated with Stockport?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2010 13:37:58 GMT 1
This is getting boring now.
I love a petty dispute as much as the next man but this has been dragging on for months and months.
Sort it out, the pair of you.
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Post by The_Witchfinder_General on Aug 11, 2010 13:52:05 GMT 1
Is this some kind of a witch hunt if it is leave it to me
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 11, 2010 14:48:51 GMT 1
Ed, its as if you want everything to be perfect with very little mistakes, if you want to watch that then go and watch Man United. We are watching league 2 football here FFS, the quality of L2 football being served up here is well above average and I'd say was better than Rochdales last season. The other week you were complaining about the entertainment and just grabbing a 1-0 scoreline when we bought in all these defenders first, and saying that the right attitude of football is that if the opposition score 3 then we'll score 4, but when that happens, you moan about the defence , We will get 70+ goals this season (We've already score 7 - 10%) of it and we only need to score 60 in our 48+ games left. Robinson 4 goals already and only needs to score 3 more to beat the 6 which you said he wouldn't get Also McIntyre is cr@p and can only think you rate him highly is because he's Peters signing, terrible footballer. Hart should start tonight meaning Roland recieve's 500k and the next few fixtures look very winnable. No, as we only get it if he starts in a competitive game.
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Post by Shrewed on Aug 11, 2010 15:40:24 GMT 1
I really wonder where posters like Heavenly, Monkee and Optimistic dream up quotes that I have supposedly made. Lets look at what I wrote about last nights game: Positives: Great Game Never say die attitude; Continued to play football even 3 down. Number of 60 yard passes more than in all home games over last two years. O'Donnell was excellent. Missed McIntyre Very Exciting match GT will address weaknesses Negatives: Poor central midfield and defense for first 35 minutes - well 3- 0 after 30 hardly suggest defending was good, just look at the amount of room for 3rd goal due to lack of closing down by midfield. Charlton reserve team only 3 starter from Saturday's game suggests not anyway their first team and lets forget the recent history, Charlton are only a 1st division club. Need 1 more player - GT suggesting another player maybe coming in. Midfield lacks bite. The defence was woeful partly because it was getting little or no support from central midfield. So you are blaming both then? Jonah as you missed the first 35 minutes maybe it would be better if you didn't comment on the poor performance then. he did no such thing, he just complains about every manager because in the end they mostly fail. . So monkee or is it eggman or one of the many other names you have used on here, out of the 21 managers that have been in charge over the period of my support how many have you seen me criticise. ONE Paul Simpson who in my opinion was possibly one of the worst in 50+ years given the resources he had available. Ed, its as if you want everything to be perfect with very little mistakes, if you want to watch that then go and watch Man United. We are watching league 2 football here FFS, the quality of L2 football being served up here is well above average and I'd say was better than Rochdales last season. The other week you were complaining about the entertainment and just grabbing a 1-0 scoreline when we bought in all these defenders first, and saying that the right attitude of football is that if the opposition score 3 then we'll score 4, but when that happens, you moan about the defence , We will get 70+ goals this season (We've already score 7 - 10%) of it and we only need to score 60 in our 48+ games left. Robinson 4 goals already and only needs to score 3 more to beat the 6 which you said he wouldn't get Also McIntyre is cr@p and can only think you rate him highly is because he's Peters signing, terrible footballer. Yes I do expect perfection, as my old Director said "if you accept 2nd best ultimately you will fail". Do you think GT will be resting on his laurels or will he be addressing the problems he perceived last night. Where did I say that Robinson would only score 6 please point it out to me. Quotes of 70 goals related getting into the playoffs so logically it only applies to league games meaning we are still 67 goals off that target. You are perfectly entitled to you opinion on McIntyre however regardless of who signed him I think you will find that many fans rate him as one of the most consistent players in the two friendlies and the Bradford game. Just a matter of opinion
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 11, 2010 15:59:46 GMT 1
I really wonder where posters like Heavenly, Monkee and Optimistic dream up quotes that I have supposedly made. Lets look at what I wrote about last nights game: Positives: Great Game Never say die attitude; Continued to play football even 3 down. Number of 60 yard passes more than in all home games over last two years. O'Donnell was excellent. Missed McIntyre Very Exciting match GT will address weaknesses Negatives: Poor central midfield and defense for first 35 minutes - well 3- 0 after 30 hardly suggest defending was good, just look at the amount of room for 3rd goal due to lack of closing down by midfield. Charlton reserve team only 3 starter from Saturday's game suggests not anyway their first team and lets forget the recent history, Charlton are only a 1st division club. Need 1 more player - GT suggesting another player maybe coming in. Midfield lacks bite. The defence was woeful partly because it was getting little or no support from central midfield. So you are blaming both then? Jonah as you missed the first 35 minutes maybe it would be better if you didn't comment on the poor performance then. So monkee or is it eggman or one of the many other names you have used on here, out of the 21 managers that have been in charge over the period of my support how many have you seen me criticise. ONE Paul Simpson who in my opinion was possibly one of the worst in 50+ years given the resources he had available. Ed, its as if you want everything to be perfect with very little mistakes, if you want to watch that then go and watch Man United. We are watching league 2 football here FFS, the quality of L2 football being served up here is well above average and I'd say was better than Rochdales last season. The other week you were complaining about the entertainment and just grabbing a 1-0 scoreline when we bought in all these defenders first, and saying that the right attitude of football is that if the opposition score 3 then we'll score 4, but when that happens, you moan about the defence , We will get 70+ goals this season (We've already score 7 - 10%) of it and we only need to score 60 in our 48+ games left. Robinson 4 goals already and only needs to score 3 more to beat the 6 which you said he wouldn't get Also McIntyre is cr@p and can only think you rate him highly is because he's Peters signing, terrible footballer. Yes I do expect perfection, as my old Director said "if you accept 2nd best ultimately you will fail". Do you think GT will be resting on his laurels or will he be addressing the problems he perceived last night. Where did I say that Robinson would only score 6 please point it out to me. Quotes of 70 goals related getting into the playoffs so logically it only applies to league games meaning we are still 67 goals off that target. You are perfectly entitled to you opinion on McIntyre however regardless of who signed him I think you will find that many fans rate him as one of the most consistent players in the two friendlies and the Bradford game. Just a matter of opinion Fair point but look at the original post on the thread, obviously I wasn't there but HeavenlyShrew said that you said to him in the Powerleague bar that Robinson wouldn't get more than 6 goals. Was this true? I really didn't think he was that bad last season as some were making out and knew that he'd prove a lot on here wrong and have a good season. McIntyre did have a good 2 friendly games and the 65 mins or whatever he was he played until he got sent off. Second half of last season he was quite simply woeful, he gave the ball away too much and his passing was quite simply shocking, but then again he wasn't the only one who was disappointing last season. Maybe new tactics will help him, but I can't see him working himself back into the team anytime soon now McAllister is playing well.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Aug 11, 2010 16:02:27 GMT 1
One of the quotes from a Charlton supporter at the game last night......
''Just back from the game. Shrews fully deserved it and had the better of the game even before we scored. That said, you should never lose from a 3-0 lead.''
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