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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 23, 2009 10:12:38 GMT 1
Radio Shropshire reporting this at 10am "we understand that Grant Holt will be joining Norwich City for a fee of 400k" Just went out... If it is £400k I would say that is a good bit of business by STFC. Loads of clubs have been sniffing, and I would imagine his agent has been stirring it up a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2009 10:22:46 GMT 1
If Holt does end up leaving for £450-500K then we can't refuse that sort of money. We should be able to replace him Hawley, Bishop, Benson etc. and have some money in the bank to pay the wages of a couple of other players to strengthen the team. My guess is that if we didn't let him go then his head wouldn't be here and he wouldn't be much use to us this season and we'd end up getting nout for him. Overall a great bit of business provided we can replace him. at last...some sense  |
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Post by Stue_P on Jul 23, 2009 11:02:48 GMT 1
Yes it is very dissapointing to lose a player of the calibre of Holt, but the money we have surely been offered is far to good to refuse. And i very much doubt that Simpson would have ok'd the deal had he not of been assured of money to invest in 2 or 3 new players who will fit the way he wants to play football.
Norwich are a very big club, with an excellent fanbase and top class facilities, so noone can blame Holt for moving. I wish him all the best at the Canaries.
He had his negative points as to remember, some on thie thread im sure were the people moaning that he spends to much time dropping back into midfield. His work rate was second to none. But people need to give it time and see who comes in.
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Post by mrbunny on Jul 23, 2009 11:04:13 GMT 1
2 weeks ago they were saying that the clubs finances were in such a healthy state that we don't have to sell our players - Grant Holt's not for sale was the message to the fans....... Perhaps he said he wanted to leave? Shock,horror,footballer wants to better himself and earn more money. |
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Post by gay on Jul 23, 2009 12:03:16 GMT 1
Group hug to all the sensible posts on here. Its actually very heartening, humble and warm to read the views on here today.
Not because I agree with them and therefore think the others opinions are wrong, but it gives me heart to know that most fans acknowledge, understand and want STFC to a well run club and sensible one.
I have no time for Bournemouth, Southampton or Luton etc. They gambled, failed and deserved what they got. Perhaps we gambled and failed last season and so are re-grouping, but doing it the right way.
I have no time for plastic fickle fans. Charlton are where they are because the fans got above themselves and got Curbs sacked. Now look at them.
I have a Fulham fan friend who when we lost at Wembley said he would prefer to be in my shoes losing rather than be winning away at Spurs in the Premier League. He and many old timers still feel they 'cheated' in getting to the PL by buying promotion with Al Fayed.
I have one Hull fan friend who after 6 months in the Premier League decided he missed the likes of Rochdale away so much he gave his season ticket away as he is fed up of the fickle fans who have these crazy opinions.
Another friend is a Stoke fan and had a huge argument with a fellow fan away at Blackburn that the stewards had to separate them - they were 3 down at Ewood and some fan next to him shouted Pulis Out.. my friend asked since when did Stoke have a divine right to beat Rovers away? It then kicked off.
STFC have always been a selling club. I personally have seen Sammy Irvine, Paul Maguire, John McGinlay, Nigel Pearson, Joe Hart to name a few sold off. If B+A had of been around in 1981 would there have been crazy posts proclaiming it was the end of the world when Squire Maguire left?
NO.
We all understood.
Superman or The Fantastic Four? - Id perfer the Fantastic Four... but who will they be? We don't know which will result in another 10 threads from the mentally unstable worrying with mass fear what will happen.
Please go down the road to Wolves and shout for the managers head if we are 0-1 down after 15 mins. Shrewsbury Town fans are normally better than that.
Bye Bye Holty. But after Maguire went, we had Gary Hackett running down the left wing and still managed huge success.
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Post by penza on Jul 23, 2009 12:25:05 GMT 1
Group hug to all the sensible posts on here. Its actually very heartening, humble and warm to read the views on here today. Not because I agree with them and therefore think the others opinions are wrong, but it gives me heart to know that most fans acknowledge, understand and want STFC to a well run club and sensible one. I have no time for Bournemouth, Southampton or Luton etc. They gambled, failed and deserved what they got. Perhaps we gambled and failed last season and so are re-grouping, but doing it the right way. I have no time for plastic fickle fans. Charlton are where they are because the fans got above themselves and got Curbs sacked. Now look at them. I have a Fulham fan friend who when we lost at Wembley said he would prefer to be in my shoes losing rather than be winning away at Spurs in the Premier League. He and many old timers still feel they 'cheated' in getting to the PL by buying promotion with Al Fayed. I have one Hull fan friend who after 6 months in the Premier League decided he missed the likes of Rochdale away so much he gave his season ticket away as he is fed up of the fickle fans who have these crazy opinions. Another friend is a Stoke fan and had a huge argument with a fellow fan away at Blackburn that the stewards had to separate them - they were 3 down at Ewood and some fan next to him shouted Pulis Out.. my friend asked since when did Stoke have a divine right to beat Rovers away? It then kicked off. STFC have always been a selling club. I personally have seen Sammy Irvine, Paul Maguire, John McGinlay, Nigel Pearson, Joe Hart to name a few sold off. If B+A had of been around in 1981 would there have been crazy posts proclaiming it was the end of the world when Squire Maguire left? NO. We all understood. Superman or The Fantastic Four? - Id perfer the Fantastic Four... but who will they be? We don't know which will result in another 10 threads from the mentally unstable worrying with mass fear what will happen. Please go down the road to Wolves and shout for the managers head if we are 0-1 down after 15 mins. Shrewsbury Town fans are normally better than that. Bye Bye Holty. But after Maguire went, we had Gary Hackett running down the left wing and still managed huge success. Great post mate! Agree with every word  |
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Post by eclipsechaser on Jul 23, 2009 12:38:25 GMT 1
So we bought Holt for £ 170,000 and ...now about to sell him for £ 400,000 .
Does that mean we can buy 2 players of better skill rating and win promotion ?
I can see this transfer going sour unless we throw the Holty Flag in too !
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Post by eclipsechaser on Jul 23, 2009 12:42:30 GMT 1
Unfortunately players today with the very odd exception have NO loyalty to a club only MONEY !   If they want to leave .......let the selfish money grabbers go . Are there any players left that have a sense of morality or ethics ?  |
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Post by Steve Rogerson on Jul 23, 2009 12:48:08 GMT 1
Unfortunately players today with the very odd exception have NO loyalty to a club only MONEY ! If they want to leave .......let the selfish money grabbers go . Are there any players left that have a sense of morality or ethics ? I think there is very little loyalty left in football these days apart from from the fans. Clubs are not loyal to players and players are not loyal to clubs, with very few exceptions. It is just the fans who are loyal to the clubs, and that is the only loyalty. One wonders if that devotion can continue indefinitely given the lack of consideration by most clubs (and I include Shrewsbury Town here) to the needs of the fans. |
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Post by shrewsace on Jul 23, 2009 12:48:09 GMT 1
Sorry, but I have to express my un-sensible feelings about this matter.
We are now just over a couple of short weeks from the start of the season and find ourselves in the position of having to replace Holt, Davies, Tierney and Humphrey, just to get back to square one.
Many of the better players we have left, such as Murray, Jackson and Coughlan are ageing and injury prone.
I have seen my club uprooted from it's much loved home and robbed of its identity on the grounds that this was necessary for the club to move forward, only to find us on the verge of a new season with expectations of a midtable finish at best.
Sell Holt and bring in a 'fantastic four' - yeah, nice in theory, but in reality it just won't happen.
If we were still at Gay Meadow, I could accept that these things were necessary but believed we had moved to a new ground so we could look to something better.
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Post by venceremos on Jul 23, 2009 13:39:47 GMT 1
Unfortunately players today with the very odd exception have NO loyalty to a club only MONEY ! If they want to leave .......let the selfish money grabbers go . Are there any players left that have a sense of morality or ethics ? I think there is very little loyalty left in football these days apart from from the fans. Clubs are not loyal to players and players are not loyal to clubs, with very few exceptions. It is just the fans who are loyal to the clubs, and that is the only loyalty. One wonders if that devotion can continue indefinitely given the lack of consideration by most clubs (and I include Shrewsbury Town here) to the needs of the fans. Sorry, but this is sentimental nonsense. If players were "loyal" to their clubs then Holt would only ever have played for Carlisle and would have had no reason ever to come to Shrewsbury. Fans are fans and players are professionals, doing the job they're paid to do, by whoever will pay them to do it. Support your team in the knowledge that all the players will move on, sooner or later, and they will all be replaced. |
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Post by Fingers on Jul 23, 2009 13:40:45 GMT 1
Define a football club.
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Post by eclipsechaser on Jul 23, 2009 13:47:57 GMT 1
I think there is very little loyalty left in football these days apart from from the fans. Clubs are not loyal to players and players are not loyal to clubs, with very few exceptions. It is just the fans who are loyal to the clubs, and that is the only loyalty. One wonders if that devotion can continue indefinitely given the lack of consideration by most clubs (and I include Shrewsbury Town here) to the needs of the fans. Players should be loyal for more than one season and clubs should reciprocate . Sorry, but this is sentimental nonsense. If players were "loyal" to their clubs then Holt would only ever have played for Carlisle and would have had no reason ever to come to Shrewsbury. Fans are fans and players are professionals, doing the job they're paid to do, by whoever will pay them to do it. Support your team in the knowledge that all the players will move on, sooner or later, and they will all be replaced. I don't expect they wil stay with one club all their career ; Neil Ashton to me WAS a player who was loyal even though he was here for just a few seasons ; Holty WAS not loyal ! |
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Post by venceremos on Jul 23, 2009 13:52:05 GMT 1
Players should be loyal for more than one season and clubs should reciprocate . Sorry, but this is sentimental nonsense. If players were "loyal" to their clubs then Holt would only ever have played for Carlisle and would have had no reason ever to come to Shrewsbury. Fans are fans and players are professionals, doing the job they're paid to do, by whoever will pay them to do it. Support your team in the knowledge that all the players will move on, sooner or later, and they will all be replaced. I don't expect they wil stay with one club all their career ; Neil Ashton to me WAS a player who was loyal even though he was here for just a few seasons ; Holty WAS not loyal ! But there's a fundamental difference - Ashton was never going to get a bigger offer from a club in a higher league, whereas it was always likely Holt would. Ashton knew he was on a good thing with us. No doubt Holt will be as "loyal" at Norwich. That's not a slight on Ashton, by the way, who always gave his best. But he also had his career to look after, same as the rest. |
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Post by maxshrew on Jul 23, 2009 13:53:52 GMT 1
Top post Billy Scarratt. Sums up perfectly the views of the rational supporter who has supported the club for more than a couple of years. It seems like good business, an offer we can't afford to turn down of which hopefully some will be re-invested. Lets remain solvent!
Last year was undoubtedly a missed opportunity and we are paying the price, maybe Holt and Davies would have stayed in Division One. Unfortunately Simpson never addressed the issue of a real partner for Holt or our weakness in midfiedl once Murray went off after an hour.
This year will be his team whoever he chooses or is able to bring in and he will be judged accordingly.
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