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Post by rep on Feb 15, 2005 13:07:46 GMT 1
In Gary Peters defence I think what he wants to establish is an atmosphere akin to that of somewhere like Portsmouth.... No one would ever criticise the Pompey fans for thier support particuarly in their 5 goal drubbing at home t o Arsenal in the cup last season ... Why shouldn't we create that type of atmos at the meadow ? In fact that type of positve approach would probably encourage even more support in its own right as I believe some will turn up just to be part of it ... All still very unlikely though in my opinion the nature of most (not all) Salopians is to be negative .... Lastly the type of song/chant started by the 'core' riversiders dictates some of the atmosphere - many will not join negative chants to opposition fans particuarly if it involves swearing ... Positive support for OUR side is whats needed 'Come you Blues ' swirling around 3 sides of the ground is wots required NOT ' We can beat this shower of 5h1te'
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Post by Bilbo on Feb 15, 2005 13:34:32 GMT 1
In Gary Peters defence I think what he wants to establish is an atmosphere akin to that of somewhere like Portsmouth.... No one would ever criticise the Pompey fans for thier support particuarly in their 5 goal drubbing at home t o Arsenal in the cup last season ... Why shouldn't we create that type of atmos at the meadow ? In fact that type of positve approach would probably encourage even more support in its own right as I believe some will turn up just to be part of it ... All still very unlikely though in my opinion the nature of most (not all) Salopians is to be negative .... Lastly the type of song/chant started by the 'core' riversiders dictates some of the atmosphere - many will not join negative chants to opposition fans particuarly if it involves swearing ... Positive support for OUR side is whats needed 'Come you Blues ' swirling around 3 sides of the ground is wots required NOT ' We can beat this shower of 5h1te' Great Post. I certainly don't like singing certain songs that the Riverside sing ie. .... Come and join us over here! Theres always one fat barsteward! No Surrender Build a bonfire etc. Surely what ive read so far on the MB is need for positive and constructive vocal support and if enough B&A users got into a large group we could have some sort of influence on what the Riverside sing by starting the chants.
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Post by faginy on Feb 15, 2005 13:35:44 GMT 1
build a bonfire is a great song....
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Post by SlimShandy on Feb 15, 2005 13:46:07 GMT 1
Despite the fact you enter the ground once you pay the fee it's actually called an 'entrance fee'. [Not to be confused with 'I was entranced by the awesome football on display at the Gay Meadow and dazzled by the sun gleaming of Trevor Challis' bald head']
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Post by Bilbo on Feb 15, 2005 13:50:06 GMT 1
build a bonfire is a great song.... Your Joking of course? To sing a song about incinerating rival supporters is good or are you taking the p**s?
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Feb 15, 2005 14:14:21 GMT 1
Really??? or maybe some of us are just adopting a realist approach. Make no mistake a number of the "negative" people you allude to have no qualms about shouting down people who just abuse the players, chant racist abuse, sing biggoted songs etc.... A great deal of people chant and sing, shout encouragement, but you'd have to be frigging deluded to think that by doing a bit of aimless cheering/chanting etc is suddenly going to inspire a insipid performance and get the lads rocking. Supporters can only do so much, once again it is the profesional players who are paid to turn up and play who are responsible for our results.... Ah, yes, the old argument about professional players being paid to get results. I know I may have said it myself, in the past, in moments of frustration. But I've learnt, and the main thing a few people need to learn is to relate it to what they feel Like most people, I got paid for my work. I'm a professional (I only work a few hours now but I worked for 30 years.) I know what it is to work for bosses who can never be pleased, or to stay up really late, preparing work for the class the next day, only to have all my plans go awry because some people seem bent on making the job difficult and being negative. On the other hand, how different it is when you're appreciated and encouraged. You could work twice as hard for someone who appreciates you and believes in you, with far less stress. Try doing ANYTHING well when people are hurling negative comments about you. Also, with a team, a negative comment about an individual is likely to affect the whole team. Personally, I prefer someone like G.P, who may blurt out comments in the heat of the moment and may get it slightly wrong and risk offending a few people. He is passionate about Football and will give a lot of commitment, wherever he is. I prefer that to people being lukewarm. Sometimes people have to speak their minds and risk getting a few monor points wrong. People mentioned Pompey. Well- I watched a Pompey game quite a time ago, and it was the atmosphere of the stadium, and the warmth of the supporters, that made me want to watch them again. You may get a new potential supporter, brought alonmg by a friend and that could be a plus factor, "See how these Shrewsbury fans love their team!!" Also, has anyone mentioned what the moaning- or silence - says to the opposition? The sound of silence- it can say "They don't care enough!" Lastly- the comments don't apply to everybody, of course they don't. I've heard some good comments from behind me- and often from families. If people don't want to make a noise- fair enough- but save the moans for private- and don't glare at others who want to give vocal encouragement.
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Post by rob on Feb 15, 2005 14:23:08 GMT 1
people are missing the point.
The way certain people are going on its as if the team is booed from the moment the line up is announced right upuntill they've gone back down the tunnel after the final whislte.
The supporters get behind the team, however they are not stupid, supporters can cope with a crap team so long as it tried 100%. To this effect this is why people like Toomy Lynch, Dean Spink,Throb and Wilding are so fondly remembered, whereas players like Jemson tend to split the fanbase.
The supporters rally around the team, however what they will not do is continually accept insipid performance after insipid performance.
Last season I thought many people went overboard with their criticism of perfrormances and JQ (no doubt because we'd stood back and said nothing whilst the club p**sed the league away) now it seems people have gone back to this "we must remain positive at all times approach".
If something is not good enough, or the standard football being offered up is not of the level required (division3) we have a right as paying customers and guardians of the football club (who always bails the troubled football clubs out?) to say so.
Whe I submit a peice of substandard work, i get let off with a warning, when I continue to hand in substandard work (that is well below my ability) I get a bollocking and am watched like a hawk.
Just because we love the club doesnt mean we have to stand there and accept the s**te that is served up infront of us.
For the record, I have only ever booed once, at the end of a game, never at half time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2005 14:53:27 GMT 1
people are missing the point. The way certain people are going on its as if the team is booed from the moment the line up is announced right upuntill they've gone back down the tunnel after the final whislte. The supporters get behind the team, however they are not stupid, supporters can cope with a cr@p team so long as it tried 100%. To this effect this is why people like Toomy Lynch, Dean Spink,Throb and Wilding are so fondly remembered, whereas players like Jemson tend to split the fanbase. The supporters rally around the team, however what they will not do is continually accept insipid performance after insipid performance. Last season I thought many people went overboard with their criticism of perfrormances and JQ (no doubt because we'd stood back and said nothing whilst the club p**sed the league away) now it seems people have gone back to this "we must remain positive at all times approach". If something is not good enough, or the standard football being offered up is not of the level required (division3) we have a right as paying customers and guardians of the football club (who always bails the troubled football clubs out?) to say so. Whe I submit a peice of substandard work, i get let off with a warning, when I continue to hand in substandard work (that is well below my ability) I get a bollocking and am watched like a hawk. Just because we love the club doesnt mean we have to stand there and accept the sh!te that is served up infront of us. For the record, I have only ever booed once, at the end of a game, never at half time. First rate post! So what should we do after cr@p preformances when the club is still in serious relegation trouble. Give them a polite round of applause after the game? Don't be fooled by the gap in points (an earlier post on this thread said GP had 'RESCUED' the club!) were not safe until the maths tell us were safe. Remember a few weeks back we all thought we were safe due to the large gap in points between us & Kiddie, Kiddie pick up a few decent results & we start collectivly cr@pping ourselves. Were a long way from safe, Kiddie beat us on Saturady and the gap will start looking mighty small again. So the pressure is far from off & sya we should give the players a 'break' in this situation is crazy! As a paying supporter, season ticket holder & having not missed a single home or Saturday away game this season. I will continue to 'inform' players when they fail to preform! I happen to love this club & will support the club how I see fit. We live in a free society which entitles me to say anything (within reason) I want, last time I looked saying 'BOO' was'nt considered offensive! PS I still think Gary Peters is great
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Post by duncowshrew on Feb 15, 2005 15:27:39 GMT 1
It's a bloody good job poor old Anti-Tank isn't around anymore.He must be turning in his grave listening to what's being said on these boards. He was a FANatical fan,certainly the only one that got a cheer as soon as he entered the ground.He would moan at the team big style if they weren't doing the business and couldn't give a monkeys who heard him or what they thought of him. Mind you he probably wouldn't have been in the ground for long these days because every player/referee that upset him was a Welsh t**t/barsteward/sheepshagger etc,etc.He would no doubt be considered a racist these days. Then,he was a source of great amusement. God help us!!
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