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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2024 14:12:05 GMT 1
I have a lot of time for PH and CD and have been lucky enough to speak to them both at length. They want success here just like we do. Personally id say wait until the chairman has found a buyer and we know where we are then, if by some miracle a billionaire appears and wants to chuck £50m at the club then all of a sudden Shrewsbury becomes the place to be. Lurching form Hurst to an unknown like Taylor or Ricketts wont help us in the long term Was a bit like lurching from Askey to Ricketts to Cotterill to Taylor to Hurst, hasn’t helped in the long run! In fact 🤔 |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 23, 2024 14:22:12 GMT 1
Why is eveyrone talking like a takeover is imminent? Even if there is a buyer it won't happen this season. If at all. Because the CEO said he was hopeful it would be done before Christmas and before the transfer window opened |
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Post by mattmw on Oct 23, 2024 14:31:44 GMT 1
Why is eveyrone talking like a takeover is imminent? Even if there is a buyer it won't happen this season. If at all. Because the CEO said he was hopeful it would be done before Christmas and before the transfer window opened Is there any sign of that actually happening though and wasn’t just PR to get something said in an otherwise pretty negative update? In the past the clubs leaked rumours left right and centre, so if local buyers were interested and actively engaged I’d have expected something to have leaked out by now A few “consortium” names have been mentioned in terms of social media, but again it’s hard to see how they could conclude a deal this side of Christmas that would allow due diligence to be undertaken and the authorities ratified it On current form you’d kind of think any buyer would hold their fire until later in the season when potentially the clubs value drops if league 2 is looking likely. Doesn’t seem any value in a buyer rushing to invest. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2024 15:09:30 GMT 1
Because the CEO said he was hopeful it would be done before Christmas and before the transfer window opened Is there any sign of that actually happening though and wasn’t just PR to get something said in an otherwise pretty negative update? In the past the clubs leaked rumours left right and centre, so if local buyers were interested and actively engaged I’d have expected something to have leaked out by now A few “consortium” names have been mentioned in terms of social media, but again it’s hard to see how they could conclude a deal this side of Christmas that would allow due diligence to be undertaken and the authorities ratified it On current form you’d kind of think any buyer would hold their fire until later in the season when potentially the clubs value drops if league 2 is looking likely. Doesn’t seem any value in a buyer rushing to invest. I firmly believe that the CEO was pushed out to embellish a bit of interest in order to quieten and appease fans. I hope to be wrong but I don’t think a sale will be forthcoming. I also think Roland has all but given up, and therefore until we’re sold we’re a bit of a rudderless ship. Which is why there’ll be no major staffing changes, no major activity in January, and no hope at all of things improving any time soon. |
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Post by harboroughshrew on Oct 23, 2024 15:27:02 GMT 1
I am generally in favour of a club honouring the contract of a manager (and vice versa) but when was the last time that happened with us and many other clubs as well? Best for us to use this site to let of a bit of steam but lets try to stay as positive as we can during the games, give as much vocal support to the players as we can and hope the tide turns a bit and, even if we dont avoid relegation, perhaps at least win a few more games than at present. As others have said I doubt, given the financial circumstances and a possible change of ownership, we will see any managerial change until the end of the season or the time of a takeover.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 15:42:35 GMT 1
Why is eveyrone talking like a takeover is imminent? Even if there is a buyer it won't happen this season. If at all. Because the CEO said he was hopeful it would be done before Christmas and before the transfer window opened do you have a link for that ? I honestly missed it this is all I saw Liam Dooley “In an ideal world, you would have something done before the transfer window because the owner could then come in and make a difference, in that window. From our perspective, we keep the talks ongoing and we try and do things easily and as quickly as we can.
“There is no time scale, unfortunately, of when it will be done.”
“Once you get past a conversation, you go to an exclusivity period, where you deal with one party and continue that journey through due diligence and look to make a decision afterwards. That is the general process.
“Everything is subject to the owners’ and directors’ tests of the EFL, again that has a time period attached to it. You could do everything you wanted to do, but if it does not pass that test, then you would be back to the drawing board again.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 23, 2024 15:44:16 GMT 1
Because the CEO said he was hopeful it would be done before Christmas and before the transfer window opened Is there any sign of that actually happening though and wasn’t just PR to get something said in an otherwise pretty negative update? I don't think we have heard any more since that interview which was 4 weeks ago. I of course don't expect the club to be giving regular updates on it, there's multiple parties involved and I appreciate that in a negotiation like this, things will remain quiet. But equally we know that historically the club have never been proactive with communication so I expect that one day we will simply get an announcement that the takeover is complete. If that doesn't happen before Xmas , I expect we will get nothing from the club/local press with them ignoring the elephant in the room And that is part of the problem, if we were a big club then there would be lots of interest in the media trying to find out who are the interested parties and tracking progress. Unfortunately the only interest is from one local reporter who probably knows that if he tries to do any investigating then that's him banished |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 23, 2024 15:57:14 GMT 1
Because the CEO said he was hopeful it would be done before Christmas and before the transfer window opened do you have a link for that ? I honestly missed it I took it from comments on the B&A thread on the interview with him (I went to go back to the interview on the Star website but it's behind a paywall) Fair enough then, the CEO never said those words and the 'before the transfer window' comment was just a throwaway comment talking about things would ideally pan out. Ok, so as Throb said, there's no targeted timeline then, well that's somehow made things even more depressing |
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Post by DiglisShrew on Oct 23, 2024 16:01:44 GMT 1
do you have a link for that ? I honestly missed it I took it from comments on the B&A thread on the interview with him (I went to go back to the interview on the Star website but it's behind a paywall) Fair enough then, the CEO never said those words and the 'before the transfer window' comment was just a throwaway comment talking about things would ideally pan out. Ok, so as Throb said, there's no targeted timeline then, well that's somehow made things even more depressing Well Burton have made a change but they do have the funds to enable them to do so. Will be interesting to see who they appoint and how they now see the way forward 🤔 |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 16:08:41 GMT 1
do you have a link for that ? I honestly missed it I took it from comments on the B&A thread on the interview with him (I went to go back to the interview on the Star website but it's behind a paywall) Fair enough then, the CEO never said those words and the 'before the transfer window' comment was just a throwaway comment talking about things would ideally pan out. Ok, so as Throb said, there's no targeted timeline then, well that's somehow made things even more depressing thats half the problem, fans making s**t up Strong rumblings that there is an American group looking to buy the club, very seriously looking. Just waiting to see how things pan out for the remainder of this season before proceeding. If we are where are then the asking price is £12 million, which they will pay providing he steps down. There may be a they an associate directorship on offer as an alternative. * usual TWOTS terms and conditions apply ** personal reference removed by moderator. Anyway, the deal is almost done and dusted and we will have a new hierarchy in the coming weeks. ( hopefully this isn’t BS) 😁 Takeover by an American-based consortium seems to still be going ahead and is well advanced. Due dilligence is ongoing at the moment which of course all takes time. Important transatlantic conversations taking place this week. and now its all happening before xmas ;-) I think fans should do their own due diligence at times before logging onto blue and amber I try to |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 16:10:05 GMT 1
I took it from comments on the B&A thread on the interview with him (I went to go back to the interview on the Star website but it's behind a paywall) Fair enough then, the CEO never said those words and the 'before the transfer window' comment was just a throwaway comment talking about things would ideally pan out. Ok, so as Throb said, there's no targeted timeline then, well that's somehow made things even more depressing Well Burton have made a change but they do have the funds to enable them to do so. Will be interesting to see who they appoint and how they now see the way forward 🤔 hope he starts winning, I used to like the "what could have been" comments  |
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Post by vladimir on Oct 23, 2024 16:23:02 GMT 1
I took it from comments on the B&A thread on the interview with him (I went to go back to the interview on the Star website but it's behind a paywall) Fair enough then, the CEO never said those words and the 'before the transfer window' comment was just a throwaway comment talking about things would ideally pan out. Ok, so as Throb said, there's no targeted timeline then, well that's somehow made things even more depressing thats half the problem, fans making s**t up Strong rumblings that there is an American group looking to buy the club, very seriously looking. Just waiting to see how things pan out for the remainder of this season before proceeding. If we are where are then the asking price is £12 million, which they will pay providing he steps down. There may be a they an associate directorship on offer as an alternative. * usual TWOTS terms and conditions apply ** personal reference removed by moderator. Anyway, the deal is almost done and dusted and we will have a new hierarchy in the coming weeks. ( hopefully this isn’t BS) 😁 Takeover by an American-based consortium seems to still be going ahead and is well advanced. Due dilligence is ongoing at the moment which of course all takes time. Important transatlantic conversations taking place this week. and now its all happening before xmas ;-) I think fans should do their own due diligence at times before logging onto blue and amber I try to I believe jamo posted both of these things earlier in the year and Dooley confirmed there were 2 interested parties but that it came to nothing.. So I don't believe he was making s**t up. "Shrewsbury have been in this situation before. Back in January this year, they revealed two interested parties were in talks over a potential deal to purchase the Shropshire club – but it came to nothing." www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2024/09/27/liam-dooley-gives-hopeful-shrewsbury-town-takeover-timeline/ |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 16:48:22 GMT 1
thats half the problem, fans making s**t up and now its all happening before xmas ;-) I think fans should do their own due diligence at times before logging onto blue and amber I try to I believe jamo posted both of these things earlier in the year and Dooley confirmed there were 2 interested parties but that it came to nothing.. So I don't believe he was making s**t up. "Shrewsbury have been in this situation before. Back in January this year, they revealed two interested parties were in talks over a potential deal to purchase the Shropshire club – but it came to nothing." www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2024/09/27/liam-dooley-gives-hopeful-shrewsbury-town-takeover-timeline/I wont tell you what the club said when I went and asked them about the rumours posted on here |
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Post by mullersalopian on Oct 23, 2024 16:48:51 GMT 1
People still say no money etc, in the updates it's been said he gave the list of players he wanted and got lost of them
He's signed toto 4 times now and it's his tactics that are poor I want him to go but until new owners it's not going to happen
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 23, 2024 17:38:38 GMT 1
TNS are moving in quietly 👍👍😀
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 23, 2024 18:01:42 GMT 1
I wont tell you what the club said when I went and asked them about the rumours posted on here It'll be something derogatory I'd imagine. It always is. Even if they're true. |
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Post by talkingoftheshrews on Oct 23, 2024 18:07:39 GMT 1
not many options with your current budgetary restraints: Neal Ardley - So so NL manager Danny Searle - as above Andy Crosby - got Vale relegated Ryan Lowe - return of your star striker but a bit of a renegade and would leave at the drop of a hat Gareth Ainsworth - loves no budget jobs Pete Wild - obvious choice IMO Would be amazed if Lowe was remotely interested in it, would imagine he'll be touting for higher potential L1/lower end Championship. Ainsworth probably the same, and petty as it is I don't think he'd be accepted here after his Wycombe days. Pete Wild would seem like an ok choice in the circumstances. Think it's all hypothetical for now, Hurst isn't going anywhere just yet. Agree on Ryan Lowe. The only way I could see us appointing him within the next year or two would be if we eventually get sold, and newly ambitious owners want a "big name" manager. He's got Championship experience, and has also played for the club before. In that situation, I don't think it's entirely unfeasible. But there's no way in hell it happens now. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 18:18:39 GMT 1
Would be amazed if Lowe was remotely interested in it, would imagine he'll be touting for higher potential L1/lower end Championship. Ainsworth probably the same, and petty as it is I don't think he'd be accepted here after his Wycombe days. Pete Wild would seem like an ok choice in the circumstances. Think it's all hypothetical for now, Hurst isn't going anywhere just yet. Agree on Ryan Lowe. The only way I could see us appointing him within the next year or two would be if we eventually get sold, and newly ambitious owners want a "big name" manager. He's got Championship experience, and has also played for the club before. In that situation, I don't think it's entirely unfeasible. But there's no way in hell it happens now. Ryan Lowe, one of the players who used to p**s around and act like a clown on a off the pitch , helping us head to the conference and then entertain himself, bavo and other subs at half time by trying to blast a shot into the town fans and hit an unsuspecting fan in the head and giggle about it, its a no from me |
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Post by talkingoftheshrews on Oct 23, 2024 18:30:20 GMT 1
Would almost be up for this just to see how it goes. I've been really, really disappointed with Hurst this season. While the back end of last season was a long way off perfect, he did what I was expecting of him and hoped he'd do - made us more solid, helped us have a plan and it always felt like we were going to compete in games, especially away from home. That all seems to have largely disappeared this season, and it feels like he's lost any form of bravery. I'd give him a few more games as I never like to see us make a change unless it's necessary, but lose at Burton and I think I'd make a change. To me the spirit seems to have been knocked out of Hurst. He’s a very different figure to the one who was here in his first spell Don’t think he was ever a tactical genius, but the combination of exceptional fitness and 3-4 really good quality players saw him do well back then Now it’s clear that even with extra training and 13 games done there is no way this squad will get the high level of fitness needed to play that style of football, and without that press and work rate we’re easy fodder for a half decent side to take us apart We don’t have the physicality as a squad to play Peters route one style that got us out of trouble in his initial spell with us, and with the budget we have getting quality possession based players in is unlikely too Think Hurst is experienced to know the games up really, and I’m not sensing much fight left in him. Could well be a mutual parting of the ways for him to go to a lower league club could suit all parties - a bit like when Mellon was allowed to leave Totally agree. I think even if you compare Hurst from the earliest pre-season interviews to now, there's been a big change. Reading body language is not a perfect science by any stretch, but he just doesn't seem enthused, passionate, fighting because he knows there's more to give. I think he knows the game is up, not only in terms of survival but in his career - I can't see him getting another EFL job unless he gets a National League team back up. Something clearly went wrong in the recruitment - you don't sign a League Two central midfielder on loan in Ojo, and bring back Gillead - on transfer deadline day when things are working well. If we needed those profiles of players, we could've picked up similar ones in the free agent market. They would've been with us in pre-season from Day One and given us a similar if not better level of performance (as well as greater cohesion). Do I think that the route cause of our seemingly inevitable relegation is Hurst? No. We are all aware of the problems at the club, and until there is a cash injection (in the form of an ownership change), I genuinely think we are just going to have to hope we don't do a douple-dip and go down to Non-League. But I do think that Hurst is making too many mistakes from a management point of view. We were always very likely to go down, but I don't think we're maximising the little chance we had to survive. We seemed to have a plan to press in pre-season, and for the first couple of games, then it has totally disappeared. So we sit in a low block, which we have done for years as a club and I think is one of the big reasons for fan disengagement/disillusion. But unlike previous years, we don't have the defensive solidity to give you a real chance of bagging a point - We will make a mistake, and we will concede. And whilst we've been woeful going forward for years (under various managers), we aren't even good at set pieces anymore - something that should be a priority when you're in the relegation fight, and something Hurst has taken responsibility of. And whilst sitting in a low block, we do not recruit - or play - quick forwards who may change that quarter of a chance to a half chance by simply being able to get in behind. When we inevitably do concede, Hurst is also very slow to make substitutions. They rarely feel proactive, rather reactive and more like Sunday League "you've paid your subs so you'll get on the pitch". It's a real cliche, but I do think it's time we just take off the handbrake. If we aren't defensively good enough with a back 3, wing backs and two defensive midfielders in front, we are never going to be good enough defensively. A 4-3-3 of: Savin; Hoole, Feeney, Feeney, Nurse; Castledine, Winchester, O'Reilly; Bloxham, Lloyd, Sagoe Jr. Will we have some games where we'll concede 3 or 4? Absolutely. But equally, we might actually create a few chances at some point. I just hope Hurst recognises it, and does make some changes to his approach. Because as others have said, I cannot see him getting sacked because by the time we get to that point, we'll already be down so it then becomes "what is the point?" And if it does happen, the only reason I think the club wouldn't appoint Moore to be caretaker is because of fan reaction. I think it would throw petrol onto the discontent of the fans, and there would be a lot of hostility from the few still going to games. |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 23, 2024 18:48:15 GMT 1
Agree on Ryan Lowe. The only way I could see us appointing him within the next year or two would be if we eventually get sold, and newly ambitious owners want a "big name" manager. He's got Championship experience, and has also played for the club before. In that situation, I don't think it's entirely unfeasible. But there's no way in hell it happens now. Ryan Lowe, one of the players who used to p**s around and act like a clown on a off the pitch , helping us head to the conference and then entertain himself, bavo and other subs at half time by trying to blast a shot into the town fans and hit an unsuspecting fan in the head and giggle about it, its a no from me Him outside liquid hanging out of the sunroof of Emma/Kath's car with a beer in each hand as hundreds of fans danced around after the Stoke play off is a cracking memory for me though. |
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Post by talkingoftheshrews on Oct 23, 2024 18:49:11 GMT 1
I don’t see the point. We are completely unattractive to any potential experienced manager or head coach that would offer any chance of keeping us up. What is the point in bringing in a rookie into this situation. They would have a 5/10% chance of keeping us up. The situation we are in is directly driven by decisions that have been taken at the top. If Wycherley is expecting £12m for a club that this time next season will be mid-table League Two fodder then he is delusional. Here we have a case of someone reaping what they have sown and it will be soon coming home to roost. If I had £50m to chuck at at football club like ours then I would be waiting until relegation and then stepping in like a messiah to save the club and have a real go at an early promotion from League Two to cement a good relationship with the fan base. I'd be genuinely curious to know what we're being valued at. The land the club owns through the training ground and stadium is probably worth more than the club itself, but aren't there restrictive covenants (certainly on the stadium, I don't know about the training ground)? We don't have many playing assets - probably Savin, Hoole & Bloxham are the only ones that could potentially be sold? And none of them would go for a significant amount of money. And even the stadium itself as a revenue earning venue, the new owners would have to immediately invest to rejuvenate it all. You'd be taking over a club with declining attendances, and with less income from the EFL due to relegation. So you're not buying a "plug and play" club - whatever the new owners spend buying the club from Wycherley, I'd imagine they'd need to put in a similar amount right off the bat in internal investment. Your last point is effectively what I think too. Given the nature of our fanbase, a new owner could build themselves a huge amount of credit quite quickly. Public meetings with fans and open dialogue, immediately securing a cleaning contract so seats aren't covered in bird mess, paying for the path behind the West Stand to be refurbished etc. Our best hope now in my view is that whoever the new owner is, they're in place with enough time to lay the groundwork for an immediate promotion push in League Two, rather than taking over on deadline day next season. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 23, 2024 18:50:56 GMT 1
So who is coming in with Mike Harris, and will it happen when the TNS European games are finished?
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 23, 2024 19:26:45 GMT 1
Dunno.... probably a consortium of yanks...then install Craig Harrison as manager👍👍
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 19:34:47 GMT 1
I don’t see the point. We are completely unattractive to any potential experienced manager or head coach that would offer any chance of keeping us up. What is the point in bringing in a rookie into this situation. They would have a 5/10% chance of keeping us up. The situation we are in is directly driven by decisions that have been taken at the top. If Wycherley is expecting £12m for a club that this time next season will be mid-table League Two fodder then he is delusional. Here we have a case of someone reaping what they have sown and it will be soon coming home to roost. If I had £50m to chuck at at football club like ours then I would be waiting until relegation and then stepping in like a messiah to save the club and have a real go at an early promotion from League Two to cement a good relationship with the fan base. I'd be genuinely curious to know what we're being valued at. The land the club owns through the training ground and stadium is probably worth more than the club itself, but aren't there restrictive covenants (certainly on the stadium, I don't know about the training ground)? We don't have many playing assets - probably Savin, Hoole & Bloxham are the only ones that could potentially be sold? And none of them would go for a significant amount of money. And even the stadium itself as a revenue earning venue, the new owners would have to immediately invest to rejuvenate it all. You'd be taking over a club with declining attendances, and with less income from the EFL due to relegation. So you're not buying a "plug and play" club - whatever the new owners spend buying the club from Wycherley, I'd imagine they'd need to put in a similar amount right off the bat in internal investment. Your last point is effectively what I think too. Given the nature of our fanbase, a new owner could build themselves a huge amount of credit quite quickly. Public meetings with fans and open dialogue, immediately securing a cleaning contract so seats aren't covered in bird mess, paying for the path behind the West Stand to be refurbished etc. Our best hope now in my view is that whoever the new owner is, they're in place with enough time to lay the groundwork for an immediate promotion push in League Two, rather than taking over on deadline day next season. chairman told me back in April the asking price was £10M he had earlier shook on a deal with Delves for discounted price of £8m, but it fell through like anything else its only worth what someone is willing to pay |
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 23, 2024 19:38:02 GMT 1
To me the spirit seems to have been knocked out of Hurst. He’s a very different figure to the one who was here in his first spell Don’t think he was ever a tactical genius, but the combination of exceptional fitness and 3-4 really good quality players saw him do well back then Now it’s clear that even with extra training and 13 games done there is no way this squad will get the high level of fitness needed to play that style of football, and without that press and work rate we’re easy fodder for a half decent side to take us apart We don’t have the physicality as a squad to play Peters route one style that got us out of trouble in his initial spell with us, and with the budget we have getting quality possession based players in is unlikely too Think Hurst is experienced to know the games up really, and I’m not sensing much fight left in him. Could well be a mutual parting of the ways for him to go to a lower league club could suit all parties - a bit like when Mellon was allowed to leave Totally agree. I think even if you compare Hurst from the earliest pre-season interviews to now, there's been a big change. Reading body language is not a perfect science by any stretch, but he just doesn't seem enthused, passionate, fighting because he knows there's more to give. I think he knows the game is up, not only in terms of survival but in his career - I can't see him getting another EFL job unless he gets a National League team back up. Something clearly went wrong in the recruitment - you don't sign a League Two central midfielder on loan in Ojo, and bring back Gillead - on transfer deadline day when things are working well. If we needed those profiles of players, we could've picked up similar ones in the free agent market. They would've been with us in pre-season from Day One and given us a similar if not better level of performance (as well as greater cohesion). Do I think that the route cause of our seemingly inevitable relegation is Hurst? No. We are all aware of the problems at the club, and until there is a cash injection (in the form of an ownership change), I genuinely think we are just going to have to hope we don't do a douple-dip and go down to Non-League. But I do think that Hurst is making too many mistakes from a management point of view. We were always very likely to go down, but I don't think we're maximising the little chance we had to survive. We seemed to have a plan to press in pre-season, and for the first couple of games, then it has totally disappeared. So we sit in a low block, which we have done for years as a club and I think is one of the big reasons for fan disengagement/disillusion. But unlike previous years, we don't have the defensive solidity to give you a real chance of bagging a point - We will make a mistake, and we will concede. And whilst we've been woeful going forward for years (under various managers), we aren't even good at set pieces anymore - something that should be a priority when you're in the relegation fight, and something Hurst has taken responsibility of. And whilst sitting in a low block, we do not recruit - or play - quick forwards who may change that quarter of a chance to a half chance by simply being able to get in behind. When we inevitably do concede, Hurst is also very slow to make substitutions. They rarely feel proactive, rather reactive and more like Sunday League "you've paid your subs so you'll get on the pitch". It's a real cliche, but I do think it's time we just take off the handbrake. If we aren't defensively good enough with a back 3, wing backs and two defensive midfielders in front, we are never going to be good enough defensively. A 4-3-3 of: Savin; Hoole, Feeney, Feeney, Nurse; Castledine, Winchester, O'Reilly; Bloxham, Lloyd, Sagoe Jr. Will we have some games where we'll concede 3 or 4? Absolutely. But equally, we might actually create a few chances at some point. I just hope Hurst recognises it, and does make some changes to his approach. Because as others have said, I cannot see him getting sacked because by the time we get to that point, we'll already be down so it then becomes "what is the point?" And if it does happen, the only reason I think the club wouldn't appoint Moore to be caretaker is because of fan reaction. I think it would throw petrol onto the discontent of the fans, and there would be a lot of hostility from the few still going to games. I agree the pressing has changed but we are conceding so many chances because the defenders we have are poor quality but mainly, in my opinion, because the low block / sitting back is anything but similar to seasons gone by. We are far more often wide open, it has led to matches (like last night, Exeter (H), Mansfield (A), Crawley (A) and others) where we create chances and play far more ‘football.’ The problem is, our strikers are crap too. I would’ve thought next on the list of options for Hurst will be to go right back to the basics of Cotterill, Ricketts and co who ‘low blocked’ the life out of us. It’ll stop us all moaning about chances being gifted to the opposition but we’ll lose the will to live. Might have to do it, just to get some more points on the board though. That’s where we are as a club, so limited in finance and playing quality, we will have to succumb and not even attempt to play entertaining football, ever. Depressing. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2024 20:46:09 GMT 1
Is there any sign of that actually happening though and wasn’t just PR to get something said in an otherwise pretty negative update? In the past the clubs leaked rumours left right and centre, so if local buyers were interested and actively engaged I’d have expected something to have leaked out by now A few “consortium” names have been mentioned in terms of social media, but again it’s hard to see how they could conclude a deal this side of Christmas that would allow due diligence to be undertaken and the authorities ratified it On current form you’d kind of think any buyer would hold their fire until later in the season when potentially the clubs value drops if league 2 is looking likely. Doesn’t seem any value in a buyer rushing to invest. I firmly believe that the CEO was pushed out to embellish a bit of interest in order to quieten and appease fans. I hope to be wrong but I don’t think a sale will be forthcoming. I also think Roland has all but given up, and therefore until we’re sold we’re a bit of a rudderless ship. Which is why there’ll be no major staffing changes, no major activity in January, and no hope at all of things improving any time soon. I doubt Roland has "giving up" in his DNA. I doubt the CEO would put up with being "pushed out to embellish a bit of interest in order to quieten and appease fans". He's there to achieve. Problem is a seller needs a buyer. A buyer might look at us now and think "Pick Town up cheap if they get relegated, then get some fan brownie points if an investment wins promotion in their first season's ownership". A bit like rescuing Wrexham and getting massive fan admiration, a rolling feel good factor (and crowds) from not really achieving very much. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 23, 2024 20:55:59 GMT 1
As for Hursty, my view is it's 50% bad luck [including bad refs] 15% poor team and 35% Hurst - for poor in match management and recruiting his old pals into the team. So, for me, he keeps the job and we buy a lucky rabbits foot, though not so lucky for the rabbit.
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Post by vladimir on Oct 23, 2024 21:29:34 GMT 1
I wont tell you what the club said when I went and asked them about the rumours posted on here Good because I don't really give a s**t and so it seems do an ever increasing number of fans. If the club feels inclined to continue to sneer at its supporters and spread its gossip to the likes of you and have its senior staff join message boards and post about carpets then good luck. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 23, 2024 22:32:35 GMT 1
I wont tell you what the club said when I went and asked them about the rumours posted on here Good because I don't really give a s**t and so it seems do an ever increasing number of fans. If the club feels inclined to continue to sneer at its supporters and spread its gossip to the likes of you and have its senior staff join message boards and post about carpets then good luck. Having a bad day or what ? like I said , I saw rumours on here and got off my arse and went and asked if they were true , there was no steering , I was told no they are not even talking to Americans , its great when I come on here and post the truth and get sneered at for doing so |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 23, 2024 22:52:30 GMT 1
I'd be genuinely curious to know what we're being valued at. The land the club owns through the training ground and stadium is probably worth more than the club itself, but aren't there restrictive covenants (certainly on the stadium, I don't know about the training ground)? We don't have many playing assets - probably Savin, Hoole & Bloxham are the only ones that could potentially be sold? And none of them would go for a significant amount of money. And even the stadium itself as a revenue earning venue, the new owners would have to immediately invest to rejuvenate it all. You'd be taking over a club with declining attendances, and with less income from the EFL due to relegation. So you're not buying a "plug and play" club - whatever the new owners spend buying the club from Wycherley, I'd imagine they'd need to put in a similar amount right off the bat in internal investment. Your last point is effectively what I think too. Given the nature of our fanbase, a new owner could build themselves a huge amount of credit quite quickly. Public meetings with fans and open dialogue, immediately securing a cleaning contract so seats aren't covered in bird mess, paying for the path behind the West Stand to be refurbished etc. Our best hope now in my view is that whoever the new owner is, they're in place with enough time to lay the groundwork for an immediate promotion push in League Two, rather than taking over on deadline day next season. chairman told me back in April the asking price was £10M he had earlier shook on a deal with Delves for discounted price of £8m, but it fell through like anything else its only worth what someone is willing to pay And what did the other parties report happened? |
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