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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 23:05:27 GMT 1
I doubt if he will be going anywhere soon. We can't afford to pay him off for starters. Well perhaps the new owners will give him the bullet from me when they arrive. He froze tactically tonight, I wondered whether I shouldn't have posted my original msg but driving home and listening to his post match interview confirmed things for me. Though he may be defending a very young and beaten squad. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 23:07:27 GMT 1
It would have been about 5 or 6 nil tonight if not for Savin, He was my Town MOTM although I'd have liked to have given it to the ref who gave every decision Town's way after the first goal went in, Did he also feel sorry for them.
Stockport's support was a credit to their team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 23:09:36 GMT 1
Shipley has fallen right out of favour hasn't he. Wingers of Bloxham and Gilliead. Good to see O'Reilly back on the bench and J Feeney starting. Still no keeper though - you do get the feeling it's going to bite you on the arse sooner or later Isn't Winchester the (un) official outfield keeper, which given he's not in the squad makes the lack of sub keeper all the stranger. Does anyone know who the other keeper is that warms up with Savin and Young, i'm guessing he's the youth keeper although looks a bit older. He saves more than Young in the warm ups. |
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Post by Exkeeper on Oct 1, 2024 23:13:05 GMT 1
Hurst is getting caught out for picking certain players consistently no matter how they are playing.
Benning is not a patch on last season and now looks like the player that Vale couldn’t wait to offload. Hoole showed first half the he can trap a ball further than I can kick it.
Nurse must be so frustrated seeing this and he still can’t get a kick. Ojo seems to have dropped into the Salop way of looking to pass 30 yards backwards, often the a keeper who is as useful with his feet as a baby hippo. Gillead needs a rest and Lloyd is just not suited to the one up front role.
The team lacks height which is costing us in both boxes yet Marquis hardly gets a kick.
Our captain needs to be fined heavily for chirping at the ref after the half time whistle despite being advised to stop.
I thought Rossiter was one of the few positive on the night along with Castledine and Sagoe in parts.
Changes need for Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 23:13:59 GMT 1
I’m sorry but we seemed to have sorted out the defence but the attack is bloody useless! Loads of pretty build up play and zilch end product! Over 84 minutes played and still not a single shot on target! Abysmal! Might have sorted the defence but still get picked off. The midfield and the attack needs sorting now. |
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Post by Mr Magoo on Oct 1, 2024 23:28:38 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 1, 2024 23:35:39 GMT 1
100% of our shots on target went in the net last 2 games A stat most clubs would be proud of Well done town 🙄 That's the spirit, Positivity🥃 |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 1, 2024 23:40:26 GMT 1
And our next manager is??🤔🤨Warnock,mourinho,Gerrard,lampard🤷get a grip monners ffs
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 23:47:03 GMT 1
Hard to justify keeping Hurst.
Taylor's side never actually got into the relegation zone.
Cotterill's sides started poor but were flying by now.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 1, 2024 23:59:50 GMT 1
Hard to justify keeping Hurst. Taylor's side never actually got into the relegation zone. Cotterill's sides started poor but were flying by now. in 2021 cotterill had 5 points after 8 games then again you didnt say how low they were flying  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2024 0:03:11 GMT 1
And was beating sides like Sheffield Wednesday by Christmas time.
Don't worry Pilch we'll be seeing Steve Cotterill again at the Meadow next season, he'll just be the opposition.
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Post by pazza on Oct 2, 2024 0:09:33 GMT 1
You can be duped into thinking for 45 minutes of most games this season, we're not a bad team and we'll get the luck of the green and eventually things will click into place. The reality is we are a shockingly awful team who have lost 7 of 9 and should have lost tonight at least 0-4 with the two quality second half saves Savin makes. The bit in the middle we do relatively ok, we can compete, put a tackle in, turn the ball over but at either ends we are just so woefully out of our depth, particularly up top. Lloyd's goal after 22 mins on Saturday is now the only shot on target we've had in the last two games. We don't know how to pass forwards. We can't take set pieces. An attacking throw-in for us on more than one occasion ended up with a chance down the other end. We rarely beat the first man from a corner. We can't defend from set pieces either. There is zero leadership on or off the pitch. This is no more evident than the endless sideways and backwards passing, every ball is 5-6 yards to feet, every pass is a low on confidence player trying to rid themselves of any liability in the next inevitable cock-up, with a sort of a 'no, you have it' gesture. There is no response whatsoever when we go a goal behind. Stockport are a good side, no bones about it. Having Louie Barry, Oliver Norwood and Kyle Wootton to bring on from the bench sub showed not only a vastly superior strength in depth but also an acknowledgement that they could comfortably make several changes and still beat us tonight. Maybe it needs a side to put 5 or 6 past us before people really see team for what it is. That’ll be Bolton on Saturday then! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2024 0:18:35 GMT 1
Town perhaps shaded the first half 60:40 but you can't really hang on to the fact that they were the better side going 0-1 Town. Stockport started well but Town did play some good football at times.
Interesting to see Goal Kicks be directed towards Hoole who was playing like a wing back at times with varying results. He linked up with Bloxham who did play well at times, there was good football between them and Castledine and Ojo.
I admire Lloyd and Castledine for battling hard, they get knocked down countless times and yet always get up, track back and win the ball to start attacks again. But as Steve Cross pointed out Lloyd was at times surrounded by 4 Stockport players and couldn't do anything with the ball.
I thought the Back four was pretty average, it was one of Morgan Feeney's worst games, Benning is slow as normal to react to things. Savin saved them both a number of times.
Rossiter started slow but wasn't too bad, he did actually hit the bar from a cross. Ojo and Gilliead will probably play every game til the end of the season they are Hurst boys, You'd be frustrated if your Perry or Shipley at times.
Finally Hurst sounded very much like another ex manager with the first name Paul on the radio post match. SIMPSON !
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 0:19:12 GMT 1
And was beating sides like Sheffield Wednesday by Christmas time. Don't worry Pilch we'll be seeing Steve Cotterill again at the Meadow next season, he'll just be the opposition. just checked , 1-0 v weds yes, January 2nd he followed that with 4 more wins in the next 24 games genius |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 0:22:45 GMT 1
You can be duped into thinking for 45 minutes of most games this season, we're not a bad team and we'll get the luck of the green and eventually things will click into place. The reality is we are a shockingly awful team who have lost 7 of 9 and should have lost tonight at least 0-4 with the two quality second half saves Savin makes. The bit in the middle we do relatively ok, we can compete, put a tackle in, turn the ball over but at either ends we are just so woefully out of our depth, particularly up top. Lloyd's goal after 22 mins on Saturday is now the only shot on target we've had in the last two games. We don't know how to pass forwards. We can't take set pieces. An attacking throw-in for us on more than one occasion ended up with a chance down the other end. We rarely beat the first man from a corner. We can't defend from set pieces either. There is zero leadership on or off the pitch. This is no more evident than the endless sideways and backwards passing, every ball is 5-6 yards to feet, every pass is a low on confidence player trying to rid themselves of any liability in the next inevitable cock-up, with a sort of a 'no, you have it' gesture. There is no response whatsoever when we go a goal behind. Stockport are a good side, no bones about it. Having Louie Barry, Oliver Norwood and Kyle Wootton to bring on from the bench sub showed not only a vastly superior strength in depth but also an acknowledgement that they could comfortably make several changes and still beat us tonight. Maybe it needs a side to put 5 or 6 past us before people really see team for what it is. That’ll be Bolton on Saturday then! a bit like when Charlton beat us 6-0 in our run of zero wins in 10 games |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2024 0:39:05 GMT 1
And was beating sides like Sheffield Wednesday by Christmas time. Don't worry Pilch we'll be seeing Steve Cotterill again at the Meadow next season, he'll just be the opposition. just checked , 1-0 v weds yes, January 2nd he followed that with 4 more wins in the next 24 games genius Not a genius no Pilch but someone who could get a football club somewhere. |
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 2, 2024 0:45:25 GMT 1
I thought the first half was a pretty awful thing to watch between two poor teams in a half empty stadium void of any atmosphere.
We didn’t deserve to go behind but we’re as bad defending set pieces as we are taking them. And that is really f*cking bad.
We were never going to score. They got better, we got worse. They somehow couldn’t score more without our ineptness from another set piece.
This was a huge backward step on improving (low bar) recent performances. The confidence seemed well and truly gone, and that’s when you know you’re really in the s**t.
Not that our budget wasn’t always going to leave us this way. It’s still depressing mind.
Sub 4000 home crowds are coming. Awful nights football.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 0:47:47 GMT 1
just checked , 1-0 v weds yes, January 2nd he followed that with 4 more wins in the next 24 games genius Not a genius no Pilch but someone who could get a football club somewhere. and yet he bottled and point blank refused to take up the challenge that Matty Taylor went for , a challenge that he himself went a long way to creating no thanks, you can keep him |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2024 0:49:07 GMT 1
I don't want him, just a decent football team support.
Matt Taylor was a willing puppet by the way but he did at least talk well.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 0:53:32 GMT 1
I don't want him, just a decent football team support. Matt Taylor was a willing puppet by the way but he did at least talk well. thats where we differ, im not picky or fussy I just want a football team to support, I found one in the late 70s and still support them, even when they lose I mean imagine supporting a team and making most of your noise when they lose  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2024 1:08:06 GMT 1
That's the beauty of football clubs they bring all sorts of people together with different opinions.
I don't, I try to comment on everything, win, lose or draw etc
Anyway, I must sleep I've seen enough nightmares on the football pitch for one day.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Oct 2, 2024 5:55:15 GMT 1
If Hursty wants to keep us up he is going to have to role the dice.
His 4-2-3-1 isn’t working, we’ve got the options on the bench too but the likes of Gillead seems to be a nailed on starter regardless of position.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 6:11:49 GMT 1
Bit harsh, other than two scrabbles at set pieces we dealt with everything they had. Defence is good enough now but when they have the pressure of needing a clean sheet to get a positive result its never going to end well. They missed 2 one on ones. It shouldve been more. 7 shots on target. 4 big chances. 2 goals. We literally didn't deal with everything they had. Near the end of the game when we pushed men forward. The fact they did not score any of them means we dealt with them. Plenty to not be happy with but the defence in open play isn't one of them. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 6:13:22 GMT 1
100% of our shots on target went in the net last 2 games A stat most clubs would be proud of Well done town 🙄 Got to love a stat! |
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Post by rickyspanish on Oct 2, 2024 6:17:35 GMT 1
Hurst was pleased with the 2nd half performance.
Said the the players played well and played some good football
Just lacked the cutting edge.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 6:25:03 GMT 1
You can be duped into thinking for 45 minutes of most games this season, we're not a bad team and we'll get the luck of the green and eventually things will click into place. The reality is we are a shockingly awful team who have lost 7 of 9 and should have lost tonight at least 0-4 with the two quality second half saves Savin makes. The bit in the middle we do relatively ok, we can compete, put a tackle in, turn the ball over but at either ends we are just so woefully out of our depth, particularly up top. Lloyd's goal after 22 mins on Saturday is now the only shot on target we've had in the last two games. We don't know how to pass forwards. We can't take set pieces. An attacking throw-in for us on more than one occasion ended up with a chance down the other end. We rarely beat the first man from a corner. We can't defend from set pieces either. There is zero leadership on or off the pitch. This is no more evident than the endless sideways and backwards passing, every ball is 5-6 yards to feet, every pass is a low on confidence player trying to rid themselves of any liability in the next inevitable cock-up, with a sort of a 'no, you have it' gesture. There is no response whatsoever when we go a goal behind. Stockport are a good side, no bones about it. Having Louie Barry, Oliver Norwood and Kyle Wootton to bring on from the bench sub showed not only a vastly superior strength in depth but also an acknowledgement that they could comfortably make several changes and still beat us tonight. Maybe it needs a side to put 5 or 6 past us before people really see team for what it is. I do wonder why when clearly we run out of steam 2nd half nearly every single game why it is so difficult for Hurst to make earlier and wholesale changes. Last night we had the player on the bench to freshen things up and change half the team and still be a threat. Stockport made 6 changes to their starting 11 from Saturday then made 5 subs by the time we had made 2. It seems very simple to me that we are going to suffer 2nd half. When opposition are using our games to rest their main players its really time to worry. I disagree about the passing. 1st half last night we seemed to be purposely passing the ball from wing to wing/ taking the simple pass and making Stockport chase us, and it worked great until it got to getting on the end of crosses or having a shot. Huge reaction needed Saturday, including a change in formation, Lloyd not being a lone striker and subs used effectively. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 6:34:01 GMT 1
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Post by camdenshrew on Oct 2, 2024 8:10:33 GMT 1
That's normally one of the first signs that a manager will soon be on his way when his take on a game is at odds with reality. The only difference here is we probably can't afford to pay him off or have already accepted relegation. |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 2, 2024 8:57:53 GMT 1
The only person on top in the 2nd half was Savin and without him could easily have been 5 or 6. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 2, 2024 9:13:50 GMT 1
My take on it was,we were the better team just about,first half,they certainly didn't deserve to be winning by any means...2nd half we started dropping off as usual,and they got well on top,and ran out easy winners.we didn't offer much threat all game tbh.our passing wasn't bad on times,but we lack aggression,and we are way to weak physically,every tackle we went in for,we lost....can't understand why sagoes not picked before gillead....who offered nothing on the wing,and hasn't improved much since the last time he was here,bloxham offered a bit first half,but faded as usual 2nd half.hoole weak as a kitten in defence,bit better going forward,bennings gone backwards,the rest about average... New formation needed,as Lloyd up top on his own doesn't work,as most of the posters have said....onto the next one!!!!
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