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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 21:41:18 GMT 1
What a stinker of a start to October. We are totally devoid of confidence.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 1, 2024 21:42:15 GMT 1
That scoreline could have been much worse. I dread to think what is in store on Saturday. Hurst has got to change the system to 3-5-2. We're shipping goals from stupid mistakes and not scoring when we have the chances. Start Castledine and O'Reilly. He's hinted to it recently but now I don't think he will have any choice. Our main issue imo is Lloyd up top. I'd rather Bloxham play up top.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 1, 2024 21:45:14 GMT 1
The fact Stockport were poor makes it even worse. I cant see them staying in the top half. They offered nothing going forward until we give it them on a plate and pushed up late in the game.
Yet the comfortably won.
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Post by dachshund on Oct 1, 2024 21:47:56 GMT 1
Have we tried loaning out the youth team to the 11th tier?
Could be worth a shot
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Oct 1, 2024 21:49:39 GMT 1
Sleep walking to league 2, be absolutely shocked if we can avoid the drop with our squad in place. It’s not like we’re waiting till January before we can even afford the quality we need. If the club does sell there’s no chance the finances will be available for January.
Why is Hurst sticking with the same formation every game and leaving subs too late. Our bench options are actually better than any we’ve had for the last 12 months.
So glad I saved £25 and watched from home.
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 1, 2024 21:52:03 GMT 1
We may have unwittingly attended Stocktoberfest, but I certainly need a drink now.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 1, 2024 21:53:42 GMT 1
Confidence must be rock bottom Leaving early and booing doesn't help. Positivity needed throughout the club and the fans. Frankly, we just have to do the whole 90 minutes and aim for our usual end of season league position, no point pulling apart the team, the management or the owner, we are where we are. The Great Escape has already started.
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Post by southshropblue on Oct 1, 2024 21:54:19 GMT 1
The fact Stockport were poor makes it even worse. I cant see them staying in the top half. They offered nothing going forward until we give it them on a plate and pushed up late in the game. Yet the comfortably won. I dont agree I thought Stockport looked a solid middle of the table side might even push for the play offs we were feeble ,the subs were made far too late, but the biggest contrast was that Stockport are obviously a club and a side going places and at the moment our club is stagnating and the fans are frustrated This will change at some point I hope it is soon but I will be very surprised if we are not in Div 2 next season
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 21:56:39 GMT 1
Time for Hurst to go!
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Oct 1, 2024 21:58:50 GMT 1
Confidence must be rock bottom Leaving early and booing doesn't help. Positivity needed throughout the club and the fans, frankly we just have do the whole 90 minutes and aim for our usual end of season league position, no point pulling apart the team, the management or the owner, we are where we are. The Great Escape has already started. I’d be inclined to agree if it felt like the Club and the team actually cared about the predicament we’re in. Feels like everyone including the management and players have accepted we’re going down.
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Post by socrates1974 on Oct 1, 2024 22:02:40 GMT 1
Confidence must be rock bottom Leaving early and booing doesn't help. Positivity needed throughout the club and the fans. Frankly, we just have do the whole 90 minutes and aim for our usual end of season league position, no point pulling apart the team, the management or the owner, we are where we are. The Great Escape has already started. Not sure how anyone can be criticised for leaving early or booing after that second half. Zero shots on target, zero threat, just an utterly pointless display. £26 to watch that is an absolute joke. The club is engulfed in apathy.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:02:51 GMT 1
We are so weak in the physicality stakes...our tackling is shocking..it's like watching an under 11 side...Stockport a big strong side,and we're like midgets.but to be fair,some of our passing was ok on times,better than stockports first half,who definitely didn't deserve to be winning at half time.....we move on!!
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 1, 2024 22:03:03 GMT 1
There will be no Manager change at least until new ownership, regardless whether you are pro Hurst or not, club cannot afford a change of manager or support a new manager to bring in new players. We have to stick with what we have for now and hope for new ownership and investment to stop the slide.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 22:04:54 GMT 1
First half was workmanlike with minimal quality but we were at least on the front foot for parts, it’s impossible to get excited though when you know the moment that the opposition bother to get forward they’ll score.
Compared to the second half though it was like watching poetry in motion, that was an absolute disgrace, slow, laborious, devoid of quality, devoid of an actual plan to get back into the game, and another game where we don’t manage a single shot on target. Woeful line-up and use of subs, and not the first time this season I’m saying that.
Fans are starting to stay away.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:05:20 GMT 1
NB:sagoe should definitely be playing before gillead..if we want an attacking threat,played well when he came on
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Post by harboroughshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:07:07 GMT 1
I am sure the players are doing their best but the League 1 quality is generally missing and the coaching they are getting does not seem to be helping. Lets hope for a different set-up in League 2 next season.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 1, 2024 22:08:06 GMT 1
Whilst it’s understandable the squad is pretty limited this season due to the budget, and you can’t fault the effort of the players you just get a sense the current set up just isn’t working.
The young players have talent but are far from the end product and often look like boys against men in league one. The older players look past their best really more suited to league two than league one. Add in a pretty poor set of tactics and odd team selections and it all adds up to a pretty average set up all round
In normal circumstsnces I’d say Hurst has a few games to turn it round and some heavy defeats might yet see him go. But it’s hard to see another manager or coach do better with the resources we have
Depressing all round. Hats off to those still turning up, most be really tough sitting there watching us at the moment
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:07 GMT 1
NB:sagoe should definitely be playing before gillead..if we want an attacking threat,played well when he came on Yet the overall team threat diminished...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 22:10:42 GMT 1
I doubt if he will be going anywhere soon. We can't afford to pay him off for starters.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 1, 2024 22:12:10 GMT 1
Never going to happen. Cant afford to get rid of him or recruit anyone better.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 1, 2024 22:14:31 GMT 1
it’s impossible to get excited though when you know the moment that the opposition bother to get forward they’ll score. Bit harsh, other than two scrabbles at set pieces we dealt with everything they had. Defence is good enough now but when they have the pressure of needing a clean sheet to get a positive result its never going to end well.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:14:48 GMT 1
Silly talk about sacking Hurst....**** me,no ****er wants to come here,can't afford to sack him anyway.....still another 38 games to go😃😃😃
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Oct 1, 2024 22:21:14 GMT 1
It's all just fairly bleak isn't it. Same as it's been for most games. It isn't awful for 90 mins - there seems to usually be 20 mins or so where they seem to be on top. But at those times a goal is rare and that positivity passes and doesn't really return. They go behind to a poor goal and that's that. Never did town look like they were going to get back in the game.
0 shots on target. Very limited chances generated. A defence and midfield who always have errors in them and struggle to retain possession.
I see town are also bottom of xg league so highlights how few chances they are creating. Last season and this have just been utter dross in terms of football
League one times look to come to an end.
I can't really complain as I watched on TV tonight but the ground did look emptier than usual too. Can't see people attending town and people are going to find better ways to spend their money. Financially income will come down and there is again nobody in this squad that is going to generate any money at all at a time when we know town are struggling.
Probably a sale will be made at some point but that doesn't mean it will necessarily change. The club just feels tired and stale. No youth team to speak of. Only Bloxham has come anywhere close in decent years to the first team and 3 years on he hasn't really progressed and is out of contract at the end of the season.
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:26:50 GMT 1
All 3 of the teams promoted last season have beaten us already....let's start booking hotels for those L2 grounds folks! Lookìng forward to it
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Post by vladimir on Oct 1, 2024 22:28:47 GMT 1
it’s impossible to get excited though when you know the moment that the opposition bother to get forward they’ll score. Bit harsh, other than two scrabbles at set pieces we dealt with everything they had. Defence is good enough now but when they have the pressure of needing a clean sheet to get a positive result its never going to end well. They missed 2 one on ones. It shouldve been more. 7 shots on target. 4 big chances. 2 goals. We literally didn't deal with everything they had.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:32:51 GMT 1
I'll never be the manager of Shrewsbury town, but if I was... I'd compile a dossier on the opposition, work out our tactics, then I'd chuck it in the bin, pick the fittest and most talented players and tell them to go out and enjoy themselves, safei in the knowledge my job was probably safe. Entertain, get the fans cheering, lighten the atmosphere
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 1, 2024 22:34:08 GMT 1
The first half was okay, average, and the bare minimum I’d expect from a professional football team
The second half was an abomination, we created literally nothing and had a 0.01xg, gifted Stockport 2 goals yes but they only had to up their feeble first half showing to 3rd gear to brush us aside with consummate ease. We were totally and utterly appalling
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Post by chameleon on Oct 1, 2024 22:34:17 GMT 1
Thought we played well 1st half and were very unlucky to go behind. Have to credit Stockport 2nd half, they closed us down really well and their subs looked fresh and lively. Thought Rossister had a good game and Savin kept the score down with some good saves. Obviously we need more players getting forward into the box. Maybe we need to go 2 upfront and play a bit more ugly as in kicking it longer and pushing up and winning the 2nd balls. We’re obviously not creating chances the way we’re playing atm.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 1, 2024 22:46:09 GMT 1
100% of our shots on target went in the net last 2 games
A stat most clubs would be proud of
Well done town 🙄
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Post by gobowenshrew on Oct 1, 2024 22:53:05 GMT 1
You can be duped into thinking for 45 minutes of most games this season, we're not a bad team and we'll get the luck of the green and eventually things will click into place.
The reality is we are a shockingly awful team who have lost 7 of 9 and should have lost tonight at least 0-4 with the two quality second half saves Savin makes.
The bit in the middle we do relatively ok, we can compete, put a tackle in, turn the ball over but at either ends we are just so woefully out of our depth, particularly up top.
Lloyd's goal after 22 mins on Saturday is now the only shot on target we've had in the last two games.
We don't know how to pass forwards. We can't take set pieces. An attacking throw-in for us on more than one occasion ended up with a chance down the other end. We rarely beat the first man from a corner. We can't defend from set pieces either.
There is zero leadership on or off the pitch. This is no more evident than the endless sideways and backwards passing, every ball is 5-6 yards to feet, every pass is a low on confidence player trying to rid themselves of any liability in the next inevitable cock-up, with a sort of a 'no, you have it' gesture. There is no response whatsoever when we go a goal behind.
Stockport are a good side, no bones about it. Having Louie Barry, Oliver Norwood and Kyle Wootton to bring on from the bench sub showed not only a vastly superior strength in depth but also an acknowledgement that they could comfortably make several changes and still beat us tonight.
Maybe it needs a side to put 5 or 6 past us before people really see team for what it is.
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