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Post by davycrockett on Sept 29, 2024 12:03:30 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 12:08:00 GMT 1
I wonder if its because Roland's money has run out or there is no one else available. I'd like Hurst to stay but if there are new owners one does wonder.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Sept 29, 2024 12:10:34 GMT 1
Completely agree, questions have to be asked of Roland & Mickey for another poor appointment. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 29, 2024 12:18:10 GMT 1
I wonder if its because Roland's money has run out or there is no one else available. I'd like Hurst to stay but if there are new owners one does wonder. maybe it could have something to do with half the fans moaning from minute one about Taylor whilst screaming for hurst to return  some people get what they ask for I just hope with stick with hurst now until the end of the season no matter what happens |
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 29, 2024 12:24:10 GMT 1
Hurst hasn't lost the plot, hasn't lost the team, nor most of the fans. Hurst puts out sides that often look on top, then a silly mistake or the manager's so far poor in game management cost us. Hurst did well for us before, a few tweaks and he could do it again. That's why he's still there. But, amazed that he brought back the old boys, didn't he have the non league nous to have up and coming new blood targets?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 29, 2024 12:29:23 GMT 1
The biggest mistake Hurst made was to bring the old boys who have cost us most of the games we have lost.
We should not get rid of him, it would be mad and very short sighted if they did.
You can't make a silk purse out of sow's ear.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 29, 2024 12:31:31 GMT 1
Hurst hasn't lost the plot, hasn't lost the team, nor most of the fans. Hurst puts out sides that often look on top, then a silly mistake or the manager's so far poor in game management cost us. Hurst did well for us before, a few tweaks and he could do it again. That's why he's still there. But, amazed that he brought back the old boys, didn't he have the non league nous to have up and coming new blood targets? I agree with everything you have said. |
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Post by belfastshrew on Sept 29, 2024 13:03:22 GMT 1
Im happy with a point.
Watched the Stockport match last night. They look a class above us. Hopefully we can bring them down to our level on Tuesday.
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 29, 2024 13:09:57 GMT 1
Can we get petition up,to get Taylor back??👍🤔🤔🤨
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 29, 2024 13:13:24 GMT 1
They've drawn the last 3....not exactly world beaters are they!!****ing up and at em salop
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 29, 2024 13:28:27 GMT 1
Im happy with a point. Watched the Stockport match last night. They look a class above us. Hopefully we can bring them down to our level on Tuesday. They did also get absolutely battered by Orient though so let’s not overestimate them either. Orient also drew with Wrexham yesterday, so our comfortable win against them looking a bit more impressive. I definitely think the performances are much better, albeit the second half yesterday dipped. Rotherham will beat many, many sides and contrary to other opinions (isn’t football great) I don’t think I felt they were going to score without the penalty. It was their only shot on target wasn’t it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 13:30:04 GMT 1
If you look at our last three games, Charlton, Mansfield and Rotherham, the way the games panned out we could and perhaps should have got way more than one solitary point. But this is why we’re getting very well acquainted with the relegation zone.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 29, 2024 13:52:47 GMT 1
Im happy with a point. Watched the Stockport match last night. They look a class above us. Hopefully we can bring them down to our level on Tuesday. They did also get absolutely battered by Orient though so let’s not overestimate them either. Orient also drew with Wrexham yesterday, so our comfortable win against them looking a bit more impressive. I definitely think the performances are much better, albeit the second half yesterday dipped. Rotherham will beat many, many sides and contrary to other opinions (isn’t football great) I don’t think I felt they were going to score without the penalty. It was their only shot on target wasn’t it? Rotherham didn't look good and we could have gone above them yesterday |
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 29, 2024 13:59:57 GMT 1
Don't think we've done to bad against Stockport over the yrs have we??.... where's the "stat man"🤔
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 29, 2024 14:30:44 GMT 1
They did also get absolutely battered by Orient though so let’s not overestimate them either. Orient also drew with Wrexham yesterday, so our comfortable win against them looking a bit more impressive. I definitely think the performances are much better, albeit the second half yesterday dipped. Rotherham will beat many, many sides and contrary to other opinions (isn’t football great) I don’t think I felt they were going to score without the penalty. It was their only shot on target wasn’t it? Rotherham didn't look good and we could have gone above them yesterday I totally agree but it’s a long season and a team with Clarke-Harris on the bench is not going to finish anywhere near the bottom in my opinion. |
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Post by gobowenshrew on Sept 29, 2024 16:56:09 GMT 1
I don't really get the 'after-timers' revelling in the club's misfortune.
"If only we'd kept ____ and the fans weren't wanting Hurst back".
Make no mistake with this squad of players we'd be in the exact same position if Matt Taylor, John Askey and probably even Steve Cotterill were in charge. I think Pep would struggle to get a tune out of this lot.
Bringing it up at every opportunity isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 29, 2024 17:23:58 GMT 1
I don't really get the 'after-timers' revelling in the club's misfortune. "If only we'd kept ____ and the fans weren't wanting Hurst back". Make no mistake with this squad of players we'd be in the exact same position if Matt Taylor, John Askey and probably even Steve Cotterill were in charge. I think Pep would struggle to get a tune out of this lot. Bringing it up at every opportunity isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is. According to you , Apparently I was getting a kicking on twitter the other week for making up stories about the chairman putting £200k in every month and how he is desperate to sell and trying his damned hardest to do exactly that , I actually quite enjoy reminding people what they once said and how wrong they were 👍 |
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Post by criftins on Sept 29, 2024 17:32:19 GMT 1
I don't really get the 'after-timers' revelling in the club's misfortune. "If only we'd kept ____ and the fans weren't wanting Hurst back". Make no mistake with this squad of players we'd be in the exact same position if Matt Taylor, John Askey and probably even Steve Cotterill were in charge. I think Pep would struggle to get a tune out of this lot. Bringing it up at every opportunity isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is. Absolutely agree. instead of moaning about the players lack of quality, some not all and directing it at Hurst and Moore I’ve not seen anyone giving grief about our recruitment team and in particular the Head of not even sure of his name tbh is it Ware, well he’s getting away with murder imo. If we can continue to get a tune out of Castledine, Lloyd both Feeneys and Gilliead who I think since re signing has been a revelation maybe just maybe with others upping their performance we can climb the table. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 17:39:49 GMT 1
I'm quite impressed with the side I saw yesterday that Hurst has built.
Its young and green they just don't have the confidence yet.
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Post by wakemanender on Sept 29, 2024 18:04:14 GMT 1
Disappointing that the O Reilly move hasn't lived up the early season promise. There seems to be a bit of a problem between him and the manager. Castledine and Sago Junior however are very exciting young players who can get bums off seats. Looking forward to following their careers when they leave us.
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Post by armchairfan on Sept 29, 2024 18:06:44 GMT 1
I'm quite impressed with the side I saw yesterday that Hurst has built. Its young and green they just don't have the confidence yet. As usual, I can't comment in detail, but how pleasant to see an unalloyed positive comment without the negativity and "I told you so..." know-it-alls! |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 29, 2024 18:21:39 GMT 1
I'm quite impressed with the side I saw yesterday that Hurst has built. Its young and green they just don't have the confidence yet. As usual, I can't comment in detail, but how pleasant to see an unalloyed positive comment without the negativity and "I told you so..." know-it-alls! so impressive we managed 4 shots yesterday, one of which was on target, we also managed 3 corners too, 2 of which came in the first minute did someone say rotherham haven't won away for 38 games, well at least we have something to cheer about by stretching that record for them I've always said, fans just see what they want to see keep this up town ;-) |
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Post by blueboy48 on Sept 29, 2024 19:08:12 GMT 1
We seem to play our best football in the first half, probably due to the quality of Castledine, Sagoe and O'Reilly if he plays. We get a goal, maybe come close to a second but then we seem to fade. In the second half we lack Inspiration, and that's before we take off our star players because they've run out of steam.
I don't question our effort at all but I think we are just too nice. I don't see a captain urging his players on or giving someone a rollicking. And it's not just down to the captain, we should have three or four senior players demanding more, being vocal and getting stuck in.
Luke Leahy was a leader and inspiration to his players and he's not been replaced.
Playing good football alone will not get results, we have to be streetwise, passionate, even a bit angry sometimes. Anything to change the course of a game and build some momentum. We look a good side but we also look a soft touch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 19:23:43 GMT 1
Yes I was actually. Its a young team but Castledine was the best attacking player. He just faded. A lot of these academy players won't have played football at this standard.
Savin was equal to Marosi.
The 3 in midfield looked organised and worked hard.
The back four looked shaky but they generally got through. If the penalty wasn't awarded then who knows.
And the same with Castledines effort.
We don't know what the squad is going through but I'd say it was important they didn't get beat.
Rotherham won't be in the bottom 4 and I just hope Town won't be.
If they work hard like yesterday they will have my backing and support regardless.
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Post by belfastshrew on Sept 29, 2024 19:25:23 GMT 1
I agree....i'm going to say it...I don't think Winchester is made of captain's stuff 😬 feels awful to say that about a fellow Belfast man. But the same can be said about everyone else in the squad. A severe lack of leadership. M Feeney was Carlisle captain when they got promoted. I don't see that leadership 🤷♂️ remember Arsenal and Man Utd early noughties? Full of leaders...could put an armband on most of the team. I just can't see any of that in our team.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 29, 2024 20:39:20 GMT 1
We seem to play our best football in the first half thats an understatement, our side is so unfit it makes a mockery of the side hurst had back in 17/18 here are the shots and corners we had yesterday 2 corners inside the opening 90 seconds , 1 of which Castledine got a shot in that was blocked, Gilliead also has a shot which is blocked 23 mins we score, 29 castledaine clips the crossbar and then 88 minutes we have a corner does anyone know why we signed Marquis ? |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Sept 29, 2024 21:06:07 GMT 1
Playing good football alone will not get results, we have to be streetwise, passionate, even a bit angry sometimes. Anything to change the course of a game and build some momentum. We look a good side but we also look a soft touch. A friend was saying yesterday that we look such a small & lightweight team but I think it's more than that. I think there's a lack of streetwise/dark arts and also togetherness. If that was Leahy making the same challenge as Benning then he'd have gone rolling round like he'd been shot and you'd have had the likes of Marosi & Dunkley surrounding their player. I know some don't like those sort of tactics but in our situation you have to try and create any advantage. Disagree we look a good side by the way, it's not a coincidence to see how many opposition fans say what a poor side we look. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 29, 2024 21:58:48 GMT 1
Playing good football alone will not get results, we have to be streetwise, passionate, even a bit angry sometimes. Anything to change the course of a game and build some momentum. We look a good side but we also look a soft touch. A friend was saying yesterday that we look such a small & lightweight team but I think it's more than that. I think there's a lack of streetwise/dark arts and also togetherness. If that was Leahy making the same challenge as Benning then he'd have gone rolling round like he'd been shot and you'd have had the likes of Marosi & Dunkley surrounding their player. I know some don't like those sort of tactics but in our situation you have to try and create any advantage. Disagree we look a good side by the way, it's not a coincidence to see how many opposition fans say what a poor side we look. I agree we are lightweight , the likes of perry yesterday just got brushed aside when trying to go by a player , defending corners we look out of our depth at times , Savin looks like a rabbit in headlights when coming to punch the ball , and with some dodgy refereeing decisions yesterday we just accepted them and got on with it like an under 15 private school boys rugby team , I might have disliked cotterill for most things he did but his dark arts were second to none including his players questioning decisions and more so those that needed questioning , we need our players to fight for 3 points like as if they don't get paid if we don't get them , in the first half yesterday the ref was giving us the dodgy decisions, I can only imagine steve evans got to him at some point between half time and the 2nd half because he flipped the other way , the crowed were riled up but the players just accepted everything , they made it easy for him , the players need informing before Tuesdays game that they appear a little lightweight , I'm pretty sure that might be all it takes for them to get fired up and prove they aren't |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 22:23:28 GMT 1
I agree with you in that the Marquis signing looks odd now.
I also agree that Winchester may not be the right man to captain the side, he might be great in the squad, but he's the kind of guy who's always flying into tackles. I noticed when there was breaks in play Morgan Feeney was going over to Hurst for instructions, he seems to be more of the leader on the field, but Alex Gilliead also does a lot of directing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 22:26:56 GMT 1
I got a bit of fear when the teams came out for the second half and I realised it was probably because the last two games Town had concerned within the first 5 minutes of the second half, to be fair yesterday they didn't. I thought that it could be a game that was decided by the substitutes.
I'd love it for TOR to be back and available for the bench on Tuesday, its great to play football manager but Lloyd and Castledine needed to be replaced on 65 minutes for Marquis and TOR.
We're in a fight already, but no one wants a relegation on their CV, not the younger guys who are just starting out or the older Pros.
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