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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 17:01:24 GMT 1
Worst penalty decision I have ever seen.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Sept 28, 2024 17:05:13 GMT 1
Worst penalty decision I have ever seen. How? It was high and dangerous in the box. Regardless if you win the ball or not. It was a stupid decision by Benning
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 17:07:08 GMT 1
Worst penalty decision I have ever seen. How? It was high and dangerous in the box. Regardless if you win the ball or not. It was a stupid decision by Benning It can't be a high challange if you don't go near an attacker never mind make contact.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 17:24:17 GMT 1
That was probably a fair result.
First game of the season for me and the XI seems much better.
Rotherham no mugs though and town faded in the second half.
I didn't think it was a penalty from where I was sat.
Feeney was the MOTM for me.
Very surprised Marquis didn't feature.
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Post by lancsman on Sept 28, 2024 17:28:49 GMT 1
Why on earth he brought Perry on. He runs around like a headless chicken and when he does get the ball he doesn’t know what to do with it. As for Bloxham he never chases the ball or tackles back. Pierre is simply a donkey. Why didn’t he put Nurse in wth Feeney. More strange decisions by Hurst.
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 28, 2024 17:30:25 GMT 1
Town were decent in spells again. Other spells felt like two teams struggling to show any genuine quality.
I think the penalty is harsh. If the ball is there to be won, dangerously close to goal, and you do it without ever putting an opponent in danger it seems a bit mad you get penalised for it. I accept his studs were up and nowadays it gets labelled ‘high’ but if the alternative is to let it run to a free player then what’s the point.
It can be a good point if we build on it with a win on Tuesday.
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Post by lancsman on Sept 28, 2024 17:35:36 GMT 1
The referee gave Rotherham every minor touch on their players. It was no way a penalty. Benning made no contact with their player so it’s not dangerous play.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 17:35:45 GMT 1
Why on earth he brought Perry on. He runs around like a headless chicken and when he does get the ball he doesn’t know what to do with it. As for Bloxham he never chases the ball or tackles back. Pierre is simply a donkey. Why didn’t he put Nurse in wth Feeney. More strange decisions by Hurst. Perry had been decent this season. Bloxham has been decent off the bench. Pierre is a better CB.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Sept 28, 2024 17:36:21 GMT 1
Would have to see it again but first thought was never pen, two players going for the ball and Benning won it (their player was 'clever' enough to go down). You can't criticise the effort but we really are a poor side and we created very little today. Take out Leo and we have zero attacking threat
There's a huge apathy amongst the fanbase and we are all now waiting, the next few months could be painful, let's hope something happens to get people excited
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Post by zenfootball on Sept 28, 2024 17:41:08 GMT 1
How? It was high and dangerous in the box. Regardless if you win the ball or not. It was a stupid decision by Benning It can't be a high challange if you don't go near an attacker never mind make contact. you are right but when the Rotherham player goes down, with such an inconsistent ref however unfair he is likely to give it.
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Post by zenfootball on Sept 28, 2024 17:46:28 GMT 1
The referee gave Rotherham every minor touch on their players. It was no way a penalty. Benning made no contact with their player so it’s not dangerous play. i agree but there player went down and the ref bought it, he was very inconsistent in his decision making, a number of town players got pushed and pulled and we hardly got any decision. a very blatant one was when there number 30 pulled Lloyd back by his hair and got nothing.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 17:50:21 GMT 1
The referee gave Rotherham every minor touch on their players. It was no way a penalty. Benning made no contact with their player so it’s not dangerous play. i agree but there player went down and the ref bought it, he was very inconsistent in his decision making, a number of town players got pushed and pulled and we hardly got any decision. a very blatant one was when there number 30 pulled Lloyd back by his hair and got nothing. He wasn't inconsistent. He gave them every thing he could and gave us everything he had to.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 28, 2024 17:50:46 GMT 1
How? It was high and dangerous in the box. Regardless if you win the ball or not. It was a stupid decision by Benning It can't be a high challange if you don't go near an attacker never mind make contact. Think it can. Check the result 😉
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Post by zenfootball on Sept 28, 2024 17:56:04 GMT 1
disappointing to go home with a draw. first half town scored a good goal, if Castledine shoot had gone it would have been a goal of the season contender .towns distribution was inconsistent in the first half and created problems for themselves. the feeneys played well, i thought Lloyd, Castledine and sagoe were very good. pleased that Lloyd scored. so disappointing to concede yet another penalty, i feared the worst so i was relived we got a point. this was another game were town failed to finish off a team and got punished for it. it is something we cant afford to keep doing.
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Post by chameleon on Sept 28, 2024 17:57:20 GMT 1
I thought a draw was a fair result. 1st half we just edged it. Good goal for Lloyd. Rotherham came at us 2nd half and looked a decent side. Both Feeneys had good games and Lloyd worked his socks off and got the goal. Hursty got the substitutions spot on, maybe could have taken Castledine off 10 minutes earlier as I could see he was tiring. Lads gave their all so can’t complain too much today. Now let’s see if we can get a good win on Tuesday.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 18:02:12 GMT 1
Can we talk about Shipley completely missing an absolute sitter! I bet he puts that away 9/10 times.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 18:08:49 GMT 1
Can we talk about Shipley completely missing an absolute sitter! I bet he puts that away 9/10 times. I thought he arrived just a fraction too late for the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 18:09:54 GMT 1
Was it Benning who 'fouled' for the Penalty. Steve Cross kept saying it was Morgan Feeney.
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Post by morethanafeeney on Sept 28, 2024 18:11:27 GMT 1
disappointing to go home with a draw. first half town scored a good goal, if Castledine shoot had gone it would have been a goal of the season contender .towns distribution was inconsistent in the first half and created problems for themselves. the feeneys played well, i thought Lloyd, Castledine and sagoe were very good. pleased that Lloyd scored. so disappointing to concede yet another penalty, i feared the worst so i was relived we got a point. this was another game were town failed to finish off a team and got punished for it. it is something we cant afford to keep doing. Not sure they deserved much more, they showed pretty much no attacking intent in the second half. Whenever they had the ball it was quickly given back to Rotherham.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Sept 28, 2024 18:12:14 GMT 1
Thought both the Feeneys were brilliant today - will be awful news for us if Josh Feeney has done something to his hamstring.
Ojo & Winchester look a solid pairing, first half today we were very good similar to last week. For whatever reason second half again we faded and offered zero threat, a point a fair result but a game we really should have made sure we got the 3 points.
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Post by MetaShrew on Sept 28, 2024 18:12:59 GMT 1
A home game that we didn't lose. It'll have to do to see off a very sobering September.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 18:13:08 GMT 1
I think a draw is probably fair. For me that was our 2nd worst performance this season (behind Wrexham). Our passing was very poor.
Big fan of Winchester but he was poor today. Both full backs were very wasteful with the ball Lloyd did great and finally got the goal he deserved but he stayed on the pitch 40 minutes longer than he should have, the lad was nakered. Ojo has grown on me a lot and is our star midfielder at the moment. Gillied is wasted on the wing, consistently average Sagoe Jr has shown what he is capable this season but he struggled to pull anything off today Can we stop taking Castledine off. We have nobody on the bench that matches his quality even when he is tired. Penalty was a joke, the clearance endangered nobody. Rotherham players didn't even appeal.
Hurst again was poor with his subs imo. Too late and none of them had any real impact. Get 3 of them on at 20-25 minutes to go like we keep seeing the opposition do most weeks.
Being unable to hold onto a lead is becoming a real concern. The fact we was time wasting at 1-1 against beatable opposition was also concerning. I understand if you can't win draw but we caused just as many problems going forward as Rotherham did.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 18:13:36 GMT 1
Can we talk about Shipley completely missing an absolute sitter! I bet he puts that away 9/10 times. I thought he arrived just a fraction too late for the ball. He won the ball so I don't see how he could be.
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Post by darkshrew on Sept 28, 2024 18:15:00 GMT 1
Disappointed - thought they were really poor up front and were very pushy / grabby which the ref never seemed to give.
Not sure if it was a pen - didn't look like it from Block 14 but that is a long way away. Actually there were a couple of corners for them and a good few grapples on our players that also confused me from the officials.
Savin - 6 - not much to do at all; a bit worried when the opposition put a player on him at corners; he doesn't seem able to get around it.
Hoole - 6 - did ok, got beaten for skill a few times and needs to get more physical. Still need to get a throw-in routine for him as he looks like his lost on what to do
Feeney (M) - 7 - got caught a couple of times, but some excellent blocks and tracking players back. Seemed to get bullied too much by their forwards
Feeney (J) - 7 - exactly as for Feeney (M). Hope that is not his injury flaring up.
Benning - 6 - did ok, still not firing on all cylinders and didn't link up with the winger as he can - wish he had shot when he got through in the first minute. Some wasted set pieces.
Ojo - 7 - some really calm good passing today helped us a lot in midfield; able to make time on the ball and pick the pass.
Winchester - 6 - still cannot believe the ref didn't give that elbow in his face straight away; not a bad game but nowhere near his best either; plenty of running but no creativity.
Gillead - 7 - apart from failing to win any headers because he got a nudge every time from the opposition; he played well making valuable tackles, and some good passes.
Castledine - 7 - ran out of puff about 10 minutes before he came off but was his usual tricky self before then with neat flicks and decent passes.
Sagoe Jr - 5 - some flashes but ran into trouble far too often and things did just not fall for him today.
Lloyd - 8 - my MoM by a country mile. Ran for everything, bagged his goal. A constant threat to the defenders on the ball and they made him pay for it with more off the ball klicks and holding than I have seen since the season Carl Griffiths started to shine.
Subs Pierre - 6 - played his role well, took no nonsense from the attackers and won every header - solid. Perry - 6 - runs around well, some good tackles and a couple of decent flicks / passes - don't get the criticism of the lad as compared to Winchester I really don't see much in it at all. Bloxham - 5 - a couple of decent runs and a great cross that Shipley nearly got on the end of; but woeful at tracking back Shipley - 5 - didn't touch the ball for the first 15 minutes he was on. made no impact which is a shame given the talent he has.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 18:23:39 GMT 1
Everyone played well. I thought it was a huge improvement from last season. The only issue was that it couldn't be sustained over the 90 minutes.
Hoole made a couple of errors but he's a decent right back.
Thought Ojo and Gilliead did well in midfield.
Castledine is a very good player, he should get into double figures. Sagoe Jnr when he gets on the ball is exciting.
All the subs played their part as well.
But Morgan Feeney for me looks the organiser and captain on the pitch.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Sept 28, 2024 18:34:31 GMT 1
Probably a more damning result and performance than any defeat we've had this season.
If we accept we're going to get beaten by most teams in the this league, to have any hope of staying up we have to win games against opponents that are there for the taking and Rotherham absolutely were.
Would need to see the penalty again but if it's given for a high foot then we can't have too many complaints. But yet again it feels our entire performance teeters on the first moment of adversity we're faced with and we're unable to respond and try and win the game again. I don't think their keeper touched the ball second half.
Can only detect a lack of leadership and belief in our own ability.
I've never seen a team so unwilling to keep the ball. Our goal was a real gem of a counter attack but counter attacking is really about all we have. We only seem to be able to make about three complete passes before every angle becomes narrowed and the player in possession is left with no option but to aimlessly loft the ball into the channels in the hope Lloyd might be able to do something with it. Rinse and repeat.
For the first time this season I'm contemplating not only is the squad woefully inadequate but also that the manager is contributing to our downfall with questionable selection and tactics.
Can't see anything other than two defeats in the next two games but hope I'm proven otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 18:38:33 GMT 1
Its important to break the momentum of defeats at least. At the start of the season a draw at home would probably be a good result.
Town have Improved, the problem is so have everyone else.
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 28, 2024 19:35:01 GMT 1
Well done town,good point,we are improving slowly,but just gorra keep going,and battle hard in every game👍
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 28, 2024 19:53:41 GMT 1
Probably a more damning result and performance than any defeat we've had this season. If we accept we're going to get beaten by most teams in the this league, to have any hope of staying up we have to win games against opponents that are there for the taking and Rotherham absolutely were. Would need to see the penalty again but if it's given for a high foot then we can't have too many complaints. But yet again it feels our entire performance teeters on the first moment of adversity we're faced with and we're unable to respond and try and win the game again. I don't think their keeper touched the ball second half. Can only detect a lack of leadership and belief in our own ability. I've never seen a team so unwilling to keep the ball. Our goal was a real gem of a counter attack but counter attacking is really about all we have. We only seem to be able to make about three complete passes before every angle becomes narrowed and the player in possession is left with no option but to aimlessly loft the ball into the channels in the hope Lloyd might be able to do something with it. Rinse and repeat. For the first time this season I'm contemplating not only is the squad woefully inadequate but also that the manager is contributing to our downfall with questionable selection and tactics. Can't see anything other than two defeats in the next two games but hope I'm proven otherwise. Good summary! On the point of their keeper not touching the ball 2nd half there was only 2 shots on target in the whole match and one of them was a penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2024 20:33:26 GMT 1
What's the reasoning behind not having a sub goalkeeper on the bench as well? with 7 subs and only 5 can come on.
If Nurse still can't last a long period surely its him that has to make way.
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