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Post by hectord0g137 on Aug 17, 2024 15:32:00 GMT 1
This time next year we could be owned by a millionaire.....oh wait🤔
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 17, 2024 15:32:29 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 17, 2024 15:32:33 GMT 1
Well it could be worse. In the division we may be heading for it's currently after 28 minutes
Crewe 0 Chesterfield 4
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 17, 2024 15:33:26 GMT 1
There is a long way to go yet but it is clear to see that we likely will be bottom 7 all season, let's just hope we finish outside the bottom 4 which I genuinely think is possible. That will only happen as long as we and RW keep faith with Hurst and Doig, who have been dealt a very poor hand by RW.
Every defeat will put more pressure on RW ownership if it isn't already......
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 17, 2024 15:38:46 GMT 1
Town were OK at times and yet never anywhere near good enough to truly bother P’boro at the back. It wasn’t a bad performance but a deserved loss, and the way it ended showed us (or a couple of players really) up for what they are - rubbish. Nothing has changed. We knew we would struggle. Today we did, for most of the season we will again. We just need to fight really hard in those few matches that resemble something near ‘even’ in the quality of squads stake. Being ‘sustainable’ is no longer sustainable. That’s the sad truth. Sustainable fast becomes unsustainable in the modern game. We no longer talk about a few clubs who ‘risk’ it all by throwing the money about, we talk about being one of the few who don’t. All of those who don’t, will go down this year or next. It’s true of every league. We’re going to have to become one of those clubs I’m afraid. Onto the next one.  |
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 17, 2024 15:39:15 GMT 1
It’s all the myth of Roland Wychley. The man who saved us from destruction and the safe pair of hands who only ever does things in the best interests of Shrewsbury Town Football Club.
Every single person and local businessman who’s tried to invest in the football club and buy part ownership has come into the football club fronting money but has been kicked out of the revolving door falling out with Roland.
Was that in the best interests of Shrewsbury town or Roland Wychley?
Moving to the new ground made us stabilise as a league two outfit at the time and surrounding ground was purchased with massive value into the future for development.
Was that in the best interests of Shrewsbury town or Roland Wychley?
Some of the land has been sold off to Aldi and local businesses the past few years and yet that money doesn’t seem to have been in the club accounts as far as I can tell.
Was that in the best interests of Shrewsbury town or Roland Wychley?
Running a balance of payments every season in league one, ensuring that the club never needs to have money put it from outside sources.
Was that in the best interests of Shrewsbury town or Roland Wychley?
When Steve and Brian overspent and the club lost money whilst Roland wasn’t watching the books, Roland made up the difference ensuring that his investment would survive and not lose value.
Was that in the best interests of Shrewsbury town or Roland Wychley?
Making Micky Moore Director of Football and ensuring the club would pick up bargains without the need for significant investment and trying to maintain our status as a league one club, hanging on every year.
Was that in the best interests of Shrewsbury town or Roland Wychley?
Roland is not a messiah and he’s ruining this football club.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 17, 2024 15:41:29 GMT 1
That late run from Jade-Jones which completely outpaced our defence was an embarrassment - and he was only on the bench, being a product of their academy. Odoh - ex Harrogate. Randall - ex Exeter. Poku - ex Colchester. They are out there! A quick google will tell you that Odoh cost £200k, Randall cost £1m, Poku cost a “substantial six-figure fee”. Hardly hidden gems. Our problems start and finish with the fact that our budget simply isn’t competitive in this division. True. They've just sold Burrows and Edwards for over £7 million between them - plus they'll be getting significant sums of money from the transfer of Szmodics and the likely transfer of Toney as a result of add ons. |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 17, 2024 15:42:35 GMT 1
Watched through NOWTV on my laptop no problems with feed ?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 17, 2024 15:48:38 GMT 1
Ladies and gentlemen I declare the meltdown open , if only that Roland Wycherley header had crossed the line and made it 2-2 Funny how it's nothing to do with hurst 😝 at least we are losing more excitingly than last season have fun guys , I'll be back later to pick all the teddies up 🧸🧸🧸 For what it's worth , Savin was my mom today , pretty decent game 👍 We had a decent go at it , so close not to get back at 2-2 but then a scrappy goal and we folded , shame we lost feeney which didn't help and it might mean we have to chase another cb this week There’s nothing more than many people on this forum like than a good meltdown. Throwing their toys out of the pram is something they must look forward to during the week. I appreciate everyone has their own view here, and some see this as meltdown. Not all of us do, and in my opinion I'm not 'melting down', I'm carefully and gently expressing my supreme displeasure. It's not just about today's performance and result either, this has been building for at least 18 months, and what we're seeing is the culmination and reality of the level of investment that we're making (or, in our case, not making), and the stark reality of exactly how far (or not) that goes at this level, in what is an uber competitive league this season. For me it's a mixture of frustration, annoyance and apathy, and a sense that Roland's appalling recent stewardship of the club, his arrogant failure to take any responsibility for the overspend, and his stubbornness to sell the club when by all accounts there was interest, has got us into this sorry, sorry state. Hurst can only do what he can do with what he's given, and when your recruitment strategy starts with bargain basement injury prone journeymen, he's got little to no chance. Yes, Peterborough are a good side, credit where it's due, but not only did they absolutely rip us a new one but, and more worryingly, we offered absolutely no resilience or stubbornness at the back, with our league 2 (at best) defence dragged all over the place. It'll be the same against Birmingham and Wrexham and Huddersfield and Bolton and Barnsley and Rotherham and even Stockport and probably Mansfield. Unable to compete off the pitch and with absolutely no chance on it. There's a sense that the rot and, worse still, the apathy is spreading. Roland's delinquency has got us in this mess and his stubbornness will lead us to league two, where his asset will be worth even less. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, and my support will never waver, and hasn't for one single day since my first match in February 1989, despite it being almost 25 years now since I left Shrewsbury. I was at Stevenage last week and will be doing the almost 450 mile round trip from Suffolk to Huddersfield next week, and I'll continue to do so for the rest of my life but, sorry, to suggest this is a meltdown is way off beam, and doesn't appreciate that, for some of us, this is NOT a knee jerk reaction to today's pathetic performance, rather it is a considered reaction to the way that Roland has mismanaged 'our' (yes, I know Roland owns the legal entity, but show me any real fan who doesn't agree that the fans own the spirit of a club, always have, always will) club and to his arrogant and aloof failure to take any responsibility as Chairman for the mess he has allowed this club to become. He has enough credit in the bank from me that I won't direct anything other than frustrated annoyance at him rather than true vitriol (although I don't expect all to be so kind) but, Roland, it is time to go! |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 17, 2024 15:50:36 GMT 1
Prior to the game I was concerned about the keeper and the defence before the game the best I thought we could do was a draw.
A really good goal by Winchester. Peterborough number, 10, 11 and 14 looked dangerous and town failed to deal with them. I expected a gulf in quality but it was a chasm.
I thought the keeper did well but had very little protection from the defence.
Alarming how easily they were able to walk through the midfield, Winchester worked really hard but he could not plug the gaping holes in our midfield by himself.
It was disappointing at the poor tracking back. Bloxham and Shipley
Were especially awful at this, when Bloxham did track back he was either to slow or just completely oblivious if what was happening around him, in the first half Shipley contributed nothing and just wondered around aimlesley. His free kicks were dreadful with is unfortunate as he seems to our person to take Free kicks
The pressing was just to slow and not consistent, they gave players too much time and room and made it easy for Peterborough.
Pierre needs to lose about four stone, both Pierre and Nisala have Zero pace and must NOT be left as the lastine of defence, I think it was goal number number three that highlighted that.
Frustrating how we fell apart after there third goal we were lucky it was not 1 - 7 .
Hurst must rethink the midfield it is not working,not sure what he can do but we need at least two holding midfielders to protect the defence, when they go forward the two center backs must not be left on there own, town have to do the basics right, must press harder all over the pitch and break with more urgency.
Unless town improve dramatically
Town are going to have real problems against the better teams and any team with pace .
To be fair I think it is worth mentioning that Peterborough are the third biggest spending club in our league and have spent £1.02 millions n on players, they have also sold a player for ten million so have much more funding at there disposal.
We have a team who are more league two standard and it shows.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 17, 2024 15:53:40 GMT 1
Toto and Pierre have the pace of a Hippo and probably a Hippo would be better at playing out from the back.
I was pleased with the keeper’s performance today and we generally tried to play some football.
Marquis is not suited to the solitary striker role and I would love to know how Bloxham keeps getting a starting roll - he has a similar first touch to that of a traffic cone!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 15:54:55 GMT 1
Are we going to hear the same old s**te about RW every week? I sincerely hope not. We all know what the bottom line is, we've lost a significant amount of money and now we are paying the price. We are all just hoping that Paul Hurst can magic up a competitive team from the scraps available to him. I'm not angry or even surprised about today's result and that's sad but I'm already resigned to a season of struggle. |
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 17, 2024 15:55:23 GMT 1
Entertainment!
I thought we played well. The scoreline flatters them. The ref was questionable for a lot of decisions.
If we play like that every game we will be safe no problems. High pressing! Running at players, attacking, putting crosses in. Marquis holding up the ball well. We just struggle a bit defensively and got found out when Ricky Jade Jones came on. The energy levels and pressing were some of the best i've seen in years...and even the subs put in a great shift.
Savin was good! Can't say he was to blame for any of the goals and made lots of good saves. Good distribution too. Hoole had his usual dodgy tackle. Thought Biggins did really well too. Captains performance from Winiesta, best game for us I recon and am I right with his first goal for us too?
Savin - 7.5
Benning - 7
Feeney - subbed early due to injury
Nsiala - 6
Hoole - 6.5
Bloxham - 6
Winchester - 8
Biggins - 7.5
O'Reilly - 6.5
Shipley - 7
Marquis - 7
Pierre - 6.5
Lloyd - 6.5
JJ Kayode - 6.5
Sagoe - 6.5
Bring on Fulham U21 🤣
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 17, 2024 15:57:35 GMT 1
Well,it was 1-1 half time,just about.2nd half started ok again,but posh gradually took a grip,and were fitter,and a yard faster than our lot.marquis to slow up top on his own,but couldn't understand why kayode wasn't put up top,rather than Lloyd....sagoe looked ok when he come on...Shipley on the periphery again!!....if an offer comes in,take it,and get some more defenders in.....quick!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:10 GMT 1
2 games in and we sit rock bottom.
Look on the bright side, the only way is up!
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Post by northwestman on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:16 GMT 1
Entertainment! I thought we played well. The scoreline flatters them. The ref was questionable for a lot of decisions. If we play like that every game we will be safe no problems. High pressing! Running at players, attacking, putting crosses in. Marquis holding up the ball well. We just struggle a bit defensively and got found out when Ricky Jade Jones came on. The energy levels and pressing were some of the best i've seen in years...and even the subs put in a great shift. Savin was good! Can't say he was to blame for any of the goals and made lots of good saves. Good distribution too. Hoole had his usual dodgy tackle. Thought Biggins did really well too. Captains performance from Winiesta, best game for us I recon and am I right with his first goal for us too? Savin - 7.5 Benning - 7 Feeney - subbed early due to injury Nsiala - 6 Hoole - 6.5 Bloxham - 6 Winchester - 8 Biggins - 7.5 O'Reilly - 6.5 Shipley - 7 Marquis - 7 Pierre - 6.5 Lloyd - 6.5 JJ Kayode - 6.5 Sagoe - 6.5 Bring on Fulham U21 🤣 If this is your genuine opinion and you think the players deserve these marks, then Ill have some of whatever you're on! |
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Post by dachshund on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:41 GMT 1
There’ll be a snake slithering into the boardroom tomorrow.
Yes, miles off it. Nowhere near. They’re a good side though and they’ll be there or thereabouts.Paul’s a good guy, but I tell you what… it’s not the way oi’d have set em up. No, you’ve gorra know your opposition! Three centre halves so one can be sweeping up against pace. It’s a bit naive and I do wonder if it’s gonna keep costing us you know what I mean?
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 17, 2024 16:03:36 GMT 1
Regarding the 'meltdown' claims, first (league) home game of the season and we've lost 4 1. Do you expect fans to be positive???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 16:04:21 GMT 1
Very generous ratings. Winchester and Savin could have had 6s that's about it.
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Post by kl8-2 on Aug 17, 2024 16:04:52 GMT 1
Entertainment! I thought we played well. The scoreline flatters them. The ref was questionable for a lot of decisions. If we play like that every game we will be safe no problems. High pressing! Running at players, attacking, putting crosses in. Marquis holding up the ball well. We just struggle a bit defensively and got found out when Ricky Jade Jones came on. The energy levels and pressing were some of the best i've seen in years...and even the subs put in a great shift. Savin was good! Can't say he was to blame for any of the goals and made lots of good saves. Good distribution too. Hoole had his usual dodgy tackle. Thought Biggins did really well too. Captains performance from Winiesta, best game for us I recon and am I right with his first goal for us too? Savin - 7.5 Benning - 7 Feeney - subbed early due to injury Nsiala - 6 Hoole - 6.5 Bloxham - 6 Winchester - 8 Biggins - 7.5 O'Reilly - 6.5 Shipley - 7 Marquis - 7 Pierre - 6.5 Lloyd - 6.5 JJ Kayode - 6.5 Sagoe - 6.5 Bring on Fulham U21 🤣 out of 100? |
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 17, 2024 16:10:05 GMT 1
If this is your genuine opinion and you think the players deserve these marks, then Ill have some of whatever you're on! I was there and haven't had any alcohol 🤣 probably what's wrong |
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 17, 2024 16:10:37 GMT 1
Very generous ratings. Winchester and Savin could have had 6s that's about it. Yes well its relative isnt it. If you give savin and winnie 6's then the others get 4s and 5s 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 17, 2024 16:11:19 GMT 1
Entertainment! I thought we played well. The scoreline flatters them. The ref was questionable for a lot of decisions. If we play like that every game we will be safe no problems. High pressing! Running at players, attacking, putting crosses in. Marquis holding up the ball well. We just struggle a bit defensively and got found out when Ricky Jade Jones came on. The energy levels and pressing were some of the best i've seen in years...and even the subs put in a great shift. Savin was good! Can't say he was to blame for any of the goals and made lots of good saves. Good distribution too. Hoole had his usual dodgy tackle. Thought Biggins did really well too. Captains performance from Winiesta, best game for us I recon and am I right with his first goal for us too? Savin - 7.5 Benning - 7 Feeney - subbed early due to injury Nsiala - 6 Hoole - 6.5 Bloxham - 6 Winchester - 8 Biggins - 7.5 O'Reilly - 6.5 Shipley - 7 Marquis - 7 Pierre - 6.5 Lloyd - 6.5 JJ Kayode - 6.5 Sagoe - 6.5 Bring on Fulham U21 🤣 ...add a decimal point in front of Nsiala and it would still be generous. |
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Post by Mr Brightside on Aug 17, 2024 16:13:17 GMT 1
Roland out! Simple as. Not Hursts fault this. Need an organised protest sooner than later. this drawn out death rattle needs to end, decisively and quickly. That is EXACTLY what this feels like. |
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Post by darkshrew on Aug 17, 2024 16:14:08 GMT 1
Up to their second goal I thought that we played really well today against one of the best teams in the league.
At 1-1 if the linesman had made a different decision on the Marquis through ball; then their keeper would have seen red and it would have been a different game completely. I did not think it was offside, Marquis checked back and did not run until the ball was hit - poor decision from the linesman in my opinion.
Savin - 6 - some good saves, some good distribution - did not deserve to let 4 in
Hule - 5 - did well against tricky opponents
Feeney - 5 - was doing fine until he went off - positioned himself well to mitigate their pace
Nsiala - 3 - absolute mare; up to their second goal he was frustrating because he only passed the ball backwards; the one time it didn't, he passed straight to their forward for the third and it was downhill from there.
Benning - 5 - did well against Poku who was really tricky.
Winchester - 6 - played a captain's role today; ran everywhere and some really good tackles - I think that could be the first time I've seen him score
O'Reilly - 6 - as usual some good skill on display; really preferred him on the right rather than the middle, would have been interesting to see him able to cross the ball to Kayode who was wasted on the wing
Higgins - 5 - much better than against Notts County but still not at this level at the moment for me; that shot in the second half was a real waste of a golden opportunity
Shipley - 5 - quiet game by his standards and some wasteful free kicks and corners; made some good challenges but ultimately didn't really create as he can
Bloxham - 4 - surprised to see Tom out on the left, did ok but clearly not his position which made it uncomfortable tracking back
Marquis - 6 - good hold up play but didn't get any chances; didn't see what he got booked for but it was unfortunate timing as we had just got the ball in a dangerous position
Pierre - 5 - I thought Pierre did ok when he came on; I thought they'd be running rings round him, but that ended up being what they did to Nsiala
Kayode - no point playing him on the wing in that kind of game; had to be in the middle
Lloyd - no point being in the middle with high balls being pinged into him - would have been better in the support role behind Kayode, keeping O'Reilly out wide on the right
Sagoe - looks very quick and skilful in the warm up, but didn't get to see much of him - what he did do looked good
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Post by Mortgagehound on Aug 17, 2024 16:23:32 GMT 1
Wow…..
This must be a record number of dummies being spat out of prams.
Can I remind everyone that this was our first home game of the season. Possibly against a team that will have designs on promotion.
Calm down everyone…
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Post by SamHarvey on Aug 17, 2024 16:24:12 GMT 1
There’s nothing more than many people on this forum like than a good meltdown. Throwing their toys out of the pram is something they must look forward to during the week. I appreciate everyone has their own view here, and some see this as meltdown. Not all of us do, and in my opinion I'm not 'melting down', I'm carefully and gently expressing my supreme displeasure. It's not just about today's performance and result either, this has been building for at least 18 months, and what we're seeing is the culmination and reality of the level of investment that we're making (or, in our case, not making), and the stark reality of exactly how far (or not) that goes at this level, in what is an uber competitive league this season. For me it's a mixture of frustration, annoyance and apathy, and a sense that Roland's appalling recent stewardship of the club, his arrogant failure to take any responsibility for the overspend, and his stubbornness to sell the club when by all accounts there was interest, has got us into this sorry, sorry state. Hurst can only do what he can do with what he's given, and when your recruitment strategy starts with bargain basement injury prone journeymen, he's got little to no chance. Yes, Peterborough are a good side, credit where it's due, but not only did they absolutely rip us a new one but, and more worryingly, we offered absolutely no resilience or stubbornness at the back, with our league 2 (at best) defence dragged all over the place. It'll be the same against Birmingham and Wrexham and Huddersfield and Bolton and Barnsley and Rotherham and even Stockport and probably Mansfield. Unable to compete off the pitch and with absolutely no chance on it. There's a sense that the rot and, worse still, the apathy is spreading. Roland's delinquency has got us in this mess and his stubbornness will lead us to league two, where his asset will be worth even less. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, and my support will never waver, and hasn't for one single day since my first match in February 1989, despite it being almost 25 years now since I left Shrewsbury. I was at Stevenage last week and will be doing the almost 450 mile round trip from Suffolk to Huddersfield next week, and I'll continue to do so for the rest of my life but, sorry, to suggest this is a meltdown is way off beam, and doesn't appreciate that, for some of us, this is NOT a knee jerk reaction to today's pathetic performance, rather it is a considered reaction to the way that Roland has mismanaged 'our' (yes, I know Roland owns the legal entity, but show me any real fan who doesn't agree that the fans own the spirit of a club, always have, always will) club and to his arrogant and aloof failure to take any responsibility as Chairman for the mess he has allowed this club to become. He has enough credit in the bank from me that I won't direct anything other than frustrated annoyance at him rather than true vitriol (although I don't expect all to be so kind) but, Roland, it is time to go! Top post |
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 17, 2024 16:31:02 GMT 1
Yep,Hurst will sort it,few tweaks here and there,Feeney in from villa,sagoe for bloxham,kayode in for marquis....don't even know where Shipley plays...play O'Reilly in his favoured position
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 17, 2024 16:32:36 GMT 1
Wow….. This must be a record number of dummies being spat out of prams. Can I remind everyone that this was our first home game of the season. Possibly against a team that will have designs on promotion. Calm down everyone… Had the result been 1-2 I doubt the meltdown would be such, it's the defence inadequacy in the manner goals 3 and 4 were conceded at the end of the game...... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 16:34:52 GMT 1
Scans for Feeney.M and Rossister it seems.
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