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Post by gtismygod on Jul 4, 2024 13:53:49 GMT 1
Just waffle from MM. Waste of a salary imo Fair enough. Seems the people who do pay his salary know his true worth to the club. What worth could that possibly be? He’s the DoF supposedly in charge of recruitment, yet our recruitment since he arrived has been the worst that it’s ever been. He’s still here because we’d rather pay him his wage each month than pay him off in one big lump sum.
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Post by mrcricket on Jul 4, 2024 14:00:28 GMT 1
I wonder how many decent signings could be made instead of blowing the money on Mickey Moore.
Dan Udoh is not the enemy for wanting out.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 4, 2024 14:05:04 GMT 1
And so the Moore witch-hunt goes on. Judged before he even got his feet under the table, some are really taking the micky.
The money situation, not more than meeting Udoh's/Agents demands? Look no further than a previous manager and CEO.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 4, 2024 14:07:58 GMT 1
Zzzzzzz Protest about what exactly? Protest to achieve what? He's already put the club up for sale. Obviously to protest at the lack of investment and the need for new leadership/direction at the top. He’s supposedly put the club up for sale but clearly isn’t interested in accepting any of the offers. So protest for him to invest which he has done and protest for him to sell the club which he is trying to do. I must be missing something.
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Post by vladimir on Jul 4, 2024 14:17:25 GMT 1
Obviously to protest at the lack of investment and the need for new leadership/direction at the top. He’s supposedly put the club up for sale but clearly isn’t interested in accepting any of the offers. So protest for him to invest which he has done and protest for him to sell the club which he is trying to do. I must be missing something. What exactly is your breaking point pughy out of interest? Where do you draw the line. If we are national league and he's still "investing" and "trying" to sell the club is that still ticks in your book to carry on as normal? Genuinely curious to know.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 4, 2024 14:22:29 GMT 1
Obviously to protest at the lack of investment and the need for new leadership/direction at the top. He’s supposedly put the club up for sale but clearly isn’t interested in accepting any of the offers. So protest for him to invest which he has done and protest for him to sell the club which he is trying to do. I must be missing something. Yes, you are missing something, the magic wand to make it all happen.
Some should ask themselves, if I was a multi millionaire what would taking over Shrewsbury Town and investing do for me? Why would I want to buy into a club where you cannot do right by the supporters and they expect you to splash the cash, what's the reward?
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Post by Pilch on Jul 4, 2024 14:25:13 GMT 1
Zzzzzzz Protest about what exactly? Protest to achieve what? He's already put the club up for sale. Obviously to protest at the lack of investment and the need for new leadership/direction at the top. He’s supposedly put the club up for sale but clearly isn’t interested in accepting any of the offers. He's put £2m of his own cash in recently just to keep us afloat , We've lost millions that we had in savings , we've had a couple of the main people taking the p**s with our budget , and you wonder why the club isn't selling ? It's because the only thing left at the club are its assets and no one wants to pay what they are worth because when they strip them they will only get back what they paid for them , if I was our chairman I'd sell them all off now myself and then p**s off and tell the fans to go find themselves an ambitious new owner because I'm done with it Then let's see the tears start 😭😢🥺
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Post by vladimir on Jul 4, 2024 14:27:42 GMT 1
So protest for him to invest which he has done and protest for him to sell the club which he is trying to do. I must be missing something. Yes, you are missing something, the magic wand to make it all happen.
Some should ask themselves, if I was a multi millionaire what would taking over Shrewsbury Town and investing do for me? Why would I want to buy into a club where you cannot do right by the supporters and they expect you to splash the cash, what's the reward?
It's a wonder anyone would buy a football hey. Oh no wait. No magic wands needed below. As an ownership group, we are ambitious, but we are not seeking to implement radical change nor risk the Club’s future for short-term success. We want to invest in all the key assets associated with the Club, including exploring ways to enhance the stadium experience for fans and supporting the remarkable work of the Burton Albion Community Trust, an inspirational organisation in creating positive and life-changing impact on the local and surrounding communities. “On the pitch, we want to develop teams that the fans and town can be proud to have represent them. It is about seeing a team perform in a way that people can enjoy watching every weekend, and obviously, we want to win! We want that success to come through being sustainable. This is about year-on-year growth and using the expertise, resources, and network of NFG and the wider Burton family to drive an increase in revenue, which can then be invested back into the Club. “We are committed to player development, to create a destination where young players feel they can really improve and prosper. We want to develop a high-performance culture not just for the men’s team but also for continuing the success of the academy to produce talented local players and build a competitive women’s team in the same way. It is a crucial part of our overarching vision that we create a pathway for girls to get involved in the game just like the boys do. "Our ideas and plans will take time, and nothing will be carried out without input from the fans and stakeholders of both the football club and the town of Burton upon Trent. Your contribution to our efforts and progress moving forward will be invaluable.”
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Post by vladimir on Jul 4, 2024 14:29:14 GMT 1
Obviously to protest at the lack of investment and the need for new leadership/direction at the top. He’s supposedly put the club up for sale but clearly isn’t interested in accepting any of the offers. He's put £2m of his own cash in recently just to keep us afloat , We've lost millions that we had in savings , we've had a couple of the main people taking the p**s with our budget , and you wonder why the club isn't selling ? It's because the only thing left at the club are its assets and no one wants to pay what they are worth because when they strip them they will only get back what they paid for them , if I was our chairman I'd sell them all off now myself and then p**s off and tell the fans to go find themselves an ambitious new owner because I'm done with it Then let's see the tears start 😭😢🥺 He's putting his money in to protect his own asset. It's hardly 'investment'.
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Post by gtismygod on Jul 4, 2024 14:30:33 GMT 1
Yes, you are missing something, the magic wand to make it all happen.
Some should ask themselves, if I was a multi millionaire what would taking over Shrewsbury Town and investing do for me? Why would I want to buy into a club where you cannot do right by the supporters and they expect you to splash the cash, what's the reward?
It's a wonder anyone would buy a football hey. Oh no wait. No magic wands needed below. As an ownership group, we are ambitious, but we are not seeking to implement radical change nor risk the Club’s future for short-term success. We want to invest in all the key assets associated with the Club, including exploring ways to enhance the stadium experience for fans and supporting the remarkable work of the Burton Albion Community Trust, an inspirational organisation in creating positive and life-changing impact on the local and surrounding communities. “On the pitch, we want to develop teams that the fans and town can be proud to have represent them. It is about seeing a team perform in a way that people can enjoy watching every weekend, and obviously, we want to win! We want that success to come through being sustainable. This is about year-on-year growth and using the expertise, resources, and network of NFG and the wider Burton family to drive an increase in revenue, which can then be invested back into the Club. “We are committed to player development, to create a destination where young players feel they can really improve and prosper. We want to develop a high-performance culture not just for the men’s team but also for continuing the success of the academy to produce talented local players and build a competitive women’s team in the same way. It is a crucial part of our overarching vision that we create a pathway for girls to get involved in the game just like the boys do. "Our ideas and plans will take time, and nothing will be carried out without input from the fans and stakeholders of both the football club and the town of Burton upon Trent. Your contribution to our efforts and progress moving forward will be invaluable.” Honestly can’t even bear to read stuff like that. Especially after seeing the players they’ve brought in over the last few weeks. Roland’s done us dirty.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 4, 2024 14:33:30 GMT 1
So protest for him to invest which he has done and protest for him to sell the club which he is trying to do. I must be missing something. What exactly is your breaking point pughy out of interest? Where do you draw the line. If we are national league and he's still "investing" and "trying" to sell the club is that still ticks in your book to carry on as normal? Genuinely curious to know. I am a powerless fan. The worst I can do is vote with my feet. Two things are important to me effort and honesty. I have not seen any proof that RW lacks either. RW does not take a wage, which he could do RW does not charge interest on the loans to the club, which he could do. RW is not just taking the highest offer regardless of who they are, which he could do. In answer to your question is that my breaking point is when I don't think RW has the best interests of the club at heart. Talks of protests are nothing more than a grown up tantrum.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 4, 2024 14:37:14 GMT 1
Yes, you are missing something, the magic wand to make it all happen.
Some should ask themselves, if I was a multi millionaire what would taking over Shrewsbury Town and investing do for me? Why would I want to buy into a club where you cannot do right by the supporters and they expect you to splash the cash, what's the reward?
It's a wonder anyone would buy a football hey. Oh no wait. No magic wands needed below. As an ownership group, we are ambitious, but we are not seeking to implement radical change nor risk the Club’s future for short-term success. We want to invest in all the key assets associated with the Club, including exploring ways to enhance the stadium experience for fans and supporting the remarkable work of the Burton Albion Community Trust, an inspirational organisation in creating positive and life-changing impact on the local and surrounding communities. “On the pitch, we want to develop teams that the fans and town can be proud to have represent them. It is about seeing a team perform in a way that people can enjoy watching every weekend, and obviously, we want to win! We want that success to come through being sustainable. This is about year-on-year growth and using the expertise, resources, and network of NFG and the wider Burton family to drive an increase in revenue, which can then be invested back into the Club. “We are committed to player development, to create a destination where young players feel they can really improve and prosper. We want to develop a high-performance culture not just for the men’s team but also for continuing the success of the academy to produce talented local players and build a competitive women’s team in the same way. It is a crucial part of our overarching vision that we create a pathway for girls to get involved in the game just like the boys do. "Our ideas and plans will take time, and nothing will be carried out without input from the fans and stakeholders of both the football club and the town of Burton upon Trent. Your contribution to our efforts and progress moving forward will be invaluable.” Isn't that statement of ambition the exact same thing we (along with most other clubs) have been trying to do for years?
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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 4, 2024 14:39:13 GMT 1
He's put £2m of his own cash in recently just to keep us afloat , We've lost millions that we had in savings , we've had a couple of the main people taking the p**s with our budget , and you wonder why the club isn't selling ? It's because the only thing left at the club are its assets and no one wants to pay what they are worth because when they strip them they will only get back what they paid for them , if I was our chairman I'd sell them all off now myself and then p**s off and tell the fans to go find themselves an ambitious new owner because I'm done with it Then let's see the tears start 😭😢🥺 He's putting his money in to protect his own asset. It's hardly 'investment'. 😂😂😂😂😂 Doesn't invest = terrible owner Does invest= he's only doing it for his own benefit Wow.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 4, 2024 14:40:36 GMT 1
Yes, you are missing something, the magic wand to make it all happen.
Some should ask themselves, if I was a multi millionaire what would taking over Shrewsbury Town and investing do for me? Why would I want to buy into a club where you cannot do right by the supporters and they expect you to splash the cash, what's the reward?
It's a wonder anyone would buy a football hey. Oh no wait. No magic wands needed below. As an ownership group, we are ambitious, but we are not seeking to implement radical change nor risk the Club’s future for short-term success. We want to invest in all the key assets associated with the Club, including exploring ways to enhance the stadium experience for fans and supporting the remarkable work of the Burton Albion Community Trust, an inspirational organisation in creating positive and life-changing impact on the local and surrounding communities. “On the pitch, we want to develop teams that the fans and town can be proud to have represent them. It is about seeing a team perform in a way that people can enjoy watching every weekend, and obviously, we want to win! We want that success to come through being sustainable. This is about year-on-year growth and using the expertise, resources, and network of NFG and the wider Burton family to drive an increase in revenue, which can then be invested back into the Club. “We are committed to player development, to create a destination where young players feel they can really improve and prosper. We want to develop a high-performance culture not just for the men’s team but also for continuing the success of the academy to produce talented local players and build a competitive women’s team in the same way. It is a crucial part of our overarching vision that we create a pathway for girls to get involved in the game just like the boys do. "Our ideas and plans will take time, and nothing will be carried out without input from the fans and stakeholders of both the football club and the town of Burton upon Trent. Your contribution to our efforts and progress moving forward will be invaluable.” So what exactly is the reward? No one with any financial sense invests without reward. Does the potential reward at Burton exceed what could be extracted out of buying Shrewsbury Town? Did they get it cheap? Is there more potential for expansion of the fanbase at Burton?
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Post by gtismygod on Jul 4, 2024 14:48:38 GMT 1
It's a wonder anyone would buy a football hey. Oh no wait. No magic wands needed below. As an ownership group, we are ambitious, but we are not seeking to implement radical change nor risk the Club’s future for short-term success. We want to invest in all the key assets associated with the Club, including exploring ways to enhance the stadium experience for fans and supporting the remarkable work of the Burton Albion Community Trust, an inspirational organisation in creating positive and life-changing impact on the local and surrounding communities. “On the pitch, we want to develop teams that the fans and town can be proud to have represent them. It is about seeing a team perform in a way that people can enjoy watching every weekend, and obviously, we want to win! We want that success to come through being sustainable. This is about year-on-year growth and using the expertise, resources, and network of NFG and the wider Burton family to drive an increase in revenue, which can then be invested back into the Club. “We are committed to player development, to create a destination where young players feel they can really improve and prosper. We want to develop a high-performance culture not just for the men’s team but also for continuing the success of the academy to produce talented local players and build a competitive women’s team in the same way. It is a crucial part of our overarching vision that we create a pathway for girls to get involved in the game just like the boys do. "Our ideas and plans will take time, and nothing will be carried out without input from the fans and stakeholders of both the football club and the town of Burton upon Trent. Your contribution to our efforts and progress moving forward will be invaluable.” So what exactly is the reward? No one with any financial sense invests without reward. Does the potential reward at Burton exceed what could be extracted out of buying Shrewsbury Town? Did they get it cheap? Is there more potential for expansion of the fanbase at Burton? Nothing to do with Burton being a better club than us. Roland just wouldn’t sell to them. TWOTS if I remember correctly was that a value was agreed for the sale of the club, but Roland then went back and insisted on more.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 4, 2024 14:51:31 GMT 1
He's putting his money in to protect his own asset. It's hardly 'investment'. 😂😂😂😂😂 Doesn't invest = terrible owner Does invest= he's only doing it for his own benefit Wow. If he had put in £2million of his own money 2 years ago and it was being used to purchase players, expand the academy or improve the facilities at the ground then you could say he's investing it. But he's not, he's spent £2million paying the wages because the club can't afford to. Now you can say he doesn't have to do that and therefore should be appladed which I do agree with to some extent, the alternative though is he doesn't do it, the club go bankrupt and his shares become worthless. So yep, his actions could be seen as the action of charitable man who just loves his football club, or it could be one of a man who is spending £2million because it means he will get a lot more back in return
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 4, 2024 14:59:11 GMT 1
I can see a fan protest against Roland come that first home game against Peterborough. I’ve been wanting the bloke gone for the best part of ten years as it was clear as day we need investment to succeed further in modern day football but the majority laughed and discarded what I said. Now I’ve never seen the fanbase turn so much against Roland. His legacy is well and truly tarnished now, especially after seeing what’s happening at Burton. If ‘South Stand Flags’ or anybody similar on here is crowd funding for a ‘Wycherley Out’ flag then let me know as I’ll donate. #WycherleyOut Sure you’re capable of setting up ‘Croud Funding’ if you feel so strongly, why wait for others to do it?
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Post by vladimir on Jul 4, 2024 14:59:58 GMT 1
It's a wonder anyone would buy a football hey. Oh no wait. No magic wands needed below. As an ownership group, we are ambitious, but we are not seeking to implement radical change nor risk the Club’s future for short-term success. We want to invest in all the key assets associated with the Club, including exploring ways to enhance the stadium experience for fans and supporting the remarkable work of the Burton Albion Community Trust, an inspirational organisation in creating positive and life-changing impact on the local and surrounding communities. “On the pitch, we want to develop teams that the fans and town can be proud to have represent them. It is about seeing a team perform in a way that people can enjoy watching every weekend, and obviously, we want to win! We want that success to come through being sustainable. This is about year-on-year growth and using the expertise, resources, and network of NFG and the wider Burton family to drive an increase in revenue, which can then be invested back into the Club. “We are committed to player development, to create a destination where young players feel they can really improve and prosper. We want to develop a high-performance culture not just for the men’s team but also for continuing the success of the academy to produce talented local players and build a competitive women’s team in the same way. It is a crucial part of our overarching vision that we create a pathway for girls to get involved in the game just like the boys do. "Our ideas and plans will take time, and nothing will be carried out without input from the fans and stakeholders of both the football club and the town of Burton upon Trent. Your contribution to our efforts and progress moving forward will be invaluable.” So what exactly is the reward? No one with any financial sense invests without reward. Does the potential reward at Burton exceed what could be extracted out of buying Shrewsbury Town? Did they get it cheap? Is there more potential for expansion of the fanbase at Burton? Why are you asking me these questions. I merely point to the correlation of a veteran long term owner stepping aside to new owners who have already invested in their new club and done a welcome event with over a thousand in attendance. You talk about magic wands and returns. Well there you go, youre getting a real life example to be played right in front of you.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 4, 2024 15:00:01 GMT 1
😂😂😂😂😂 Doesn't invest = terrible owner Does invest= he's only doing it for his own benefit Wow. If he had put in £2million of his own money 2 years ago and it was being used to purchase players, expand the academy or improve the facilities at the ground then you could say he's investing it. But he's not, he's spent £2million paying the wages because the club can't afford to. Now you can say he doesn't have to do that and therefore should be appladed which I do agree with to some extent, the alternative though is he doesn't do it, the club go bankrupt and his shares become worthless. So yep, his actions could be seen as the action of charitable man who just loves his football club, or it could be one of a man who is spending £2million because it means he will get a lot more back in return or both.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 4, 2024 15:08:37 GMT 1
and Burton sign another player oh what could of been? whoopee, Burton have now signed abut 12 players, the most experienced being Jayson Shara, the guy who couldn't get into hursts team, they even paid money for him yes they signed a player today, Dylan Williams , a kid on loan from Chelsea ( no surprise their new manager was his manager last season ) he has 2 league starts to his name, for derby county when they only had kids to pick from when in admin in the championship he was also part of the derby side that got humiliated by Chorley in the fa cup I mean yeah, what could have been , I mean if Burton didn't have new owners they wouldn't have signed any players at all this season lets stop comparing to Burton before we have anything to comapre with so far what we have is those owners had the chance to buy us but couldn't pay the going rate, the swedes didn't meet our demands, they just messed us about trying to get us on the cheap ( exactly what the moaners wrongly accused out club of doing with Dan Udoh, ) the swedes are the losers here, they could have had a nice club in a pretty historic town, instead they have Burton Albion, lets stop being nice about them
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Post by Pilch on Jul 4, 2024 15:09:10 GMT 1
So what exactly is the reward? No one with any financial sense invests without reward. Does the potential reward at Burton exceed what could be extracted out of buying Shrewsbury Town? Did they get it cheap? Is there more potential for expansion of the fanbase at Burton? Nothing to do with Burton being a better club than us. Roland just wouldn’t sell to them. TWOTS if I remember correctly was that a value was agreed for the sale of the club, but Roland then went back and insisted on more. fake news
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 4, 2024 15:14:23 GMT 1
and Burton sign another player oh what could of been? they just messed us about trying to get us on the cheap I thought the story was it fell apart because they wanted exclusivity rights for 12 months? It's amazing all this fake news isn't it?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 4, 2024 15:14:45 GMT 1
So what exactly is the reward? No one with any financial sense invests without reward. Does the potential reward at Burton exceed what could be extracted out of buying Shrewsbury Town? Did they get it cheap? Is there more potential for expansion of the fanbase at Burton? Why are you asking me these questions. I merely point to the correlation of a veteran long term owner stepping aside to new owners who have already invested in their new club and done a welcome event with over a thousand in attendance. You talk about magic wands and returns. Well there you go, youre getting a real life example to be played right in front of you. I'm asking you these questions because, based on their bland statement, I get a faint whiff of asset stripping rats or some catch in the deal. Maybe Roland did too?
Anyway, he's appointed a bright CEO and a Director of Football and, I believe, realises it's time to sell. When it is sold I expect it to be what Roland considers the best deal for the club.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 4, 2024 15:19:59 GMT 1
He's put £2m of his own cash in recently just to keep us afloat , We've lost millions that we had in savings , we've had a couple of the main people taking the p**s with our budget , and you wonder why the club isn't selling ? It's because the only thing left at the club are its assets and no one wants to pay what they are worth because when they strip them they will only get back what they paid for them , if I was our chairman I'd sell them all off now myself and then p**s off and tell the fans to go find themselves an ambitious new owner because I'm done with it Then let's see the tears start 😭😢🥺 He's putting his money in to protect his own asset. It's hardly 'investment'. if you seriously think he will get any of that £2m back then you need to have a re think, as for calling it an investment he would have been better investing £2m in tulipmania
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 4, 2024 15:32:06 GMT 1
About time too. Looks like we've effectively written off the first month of the season waiting on the loans. Going to be a titanic struggle. Credit where it's due, he's written it and been pretty frank of where it's at. We seem to be one of the only clubs in the division so far behind on numbers though. Also to add he hasn't taken any blame for signings failure and bit of an insult to boast about academy minutes he doesn't mention the club released every single second year scholar. I'm just wondering how long this "transition" period is going to be...
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Post by Pilch on Jul 4, 2024 15:42:19 GMT 1
they just messed us about trying to get us on the cheap I thought the story was it fell apart because they wanted exclusivity rights for 12 months? It's amazing all this fake news isn't it? you are talking about the last time they appeared , they have been here 4 times in total wasting our time
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jul 4, 2024 15:44:53 GMT 1
I think the statement lacks class. Everything like that should stay in-house especially financials and point scoring should be left to the league not in club statements. I don’t understand what the club aims to achieve by mentioning details of money and contract negotiations. We all knew he was probably going to leave for more money so putting that in a club statement just reeks of sour grapes and I bet our current players will be looking at that thinking ‘is this how I’m going to be treated when I leave?’ Or put it through another channel at least. Haven't read MMs thing today but addressing it through that is more understandable, to do it in the statement announcing he is leaving is the crass bit, especially as he is towns longest serving player and one who has done very well for the club
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Post by Pilch on Jul 4, 2024 15:45:10 GMT 1
About time too. Looks like we've effectively written off the first month of the season waiting on the loans. Going to be a titanic struggle. Credit where it's due, he's written it and been pretty frank of where it's at. We seem to be one of the only clubs in the division so far behind on numbers though. Also to add he hasn't taken any blame for signings failure and bit of an insult to boast about academy minutes he doesn't mention the club released every single second year scholar. I'm just wondering how long this "transition" period is going to be... maybe just compare it to other football clubs, start with the likes of liverpool, united, city, arsenal spurs, its usually years, decades, unfortunately not days and weeks like our fans demand
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jul 4, 2024 15:48:05 GMT 1
and Burton sign another player oh what could of been? whoopee, Burton have now signed abut 12 players, the most experienced being Jayson Shara, the guy who couldn't get into hursts team, they even paid money for him yes they signed a player today, Dylan Williams , a kid on loan from Chelsea ( no surprise their new manager was his manager last season ) he has 2 league starts to his name, for derby county when they only had kids to pick from when in admin in the championship he was also part of the derby side that got humiliated by Chorley in the fa cup I mean yeah, what could have been , I mean if Burton didn't have new owners they wouldn't have signed any players at all this season lets stop comparing to Burton before we have anything to comapre with so far what we have is those owners had the chance to buy us but couldn't pay the going rate, the swedes didn't meet our demands, they just messed us about trying to get us on the cheap ( exactly what the moaners wrongly accused out club of doing with Dan Udoh, ) the swedes are the losers here, they could have had a nice club in a pretty historic town, instead they have Burton Albion, lets stop being nice about them First paragraph,first deliberate error.I would say that Dominic Orsi from Crawley is more experienced than Sraha and that's just for starters but hey wouldn't want to spoil the effect
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jul 4, 2024 15:49:27 GMT 1
Probably gone for a few hundred quid a week more....but strung us along for 12 mths🤷🤷🤦 A few hundred quid a week more, so over a year £15k more. And the same probably over 3 years. I certainly wouldn't say no to that added to my salary!
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