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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 7:35:17 GMT 1
but youve just invented a new part to the story and then dismissed it who's banned from the Sov club ? how about you start doubting God, and see how long you last in your job ;-) Perhaps banned is the wrong word. "It would be made almost impossible to attend." But why do you bring my job into it? You literally wrote the rule that says "play the man not the ball". I guess you threw me inventing stories about fans being banned and roland offering free shares , in reply to talking about JH , I think my point applies to anyone thought in their job |
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Post by darkshrew on May 29, 2024 10:40:21 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails.
They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 10:53:28 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? |
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Post by Valerioch on May 29, 2024 11:05:48 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? Perhaps he made 3 little girls cry |
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Post by davycrockett on May 29, 2024 11:47:32 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. Surely they went to the club and asked why? I'd certainly find out! Rolands happy to talk to any supporter and answer their questions. |
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Post by darkshrew on May 29, 2024 11:53:37 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? Wanted to invest in the club - told no shares available but he could donate it to the foundation. |
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Post by DiglisShrew on May 29, 2024 11:59:59 GMT 1
Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? Wanted to invest in the club - told no shares available but he could donate it to the foundation. But there are thousands of unissued shares 🤔 |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 29, 2024 12:27:55 GMT 1
Perhaps banned is the wrong word. "It would be made almost impossible to attend." But why do you bring my job into it? You literally wrote the rule that says "play the man not the ball". I guess you threw me inventing stories about fans being banned and roland offering free shares , in reply to talking about JH , I think my point applies to anyone thought in their job No I didn't invent a story. I find it inconceivable that if anyone who ever worked closely with RW was then an outspoken critic then they would be able to be in that part of the stadium ever again. I didn't say it had happened. |
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Post by davycrockett on May 29, 2024 12:51:41 GMT 1
Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? Wanted to invest in the club - told no shares available but he could donate it to the foundation. Common knowledge shares aren’t available unless someone becomes a director. Used to be minimum investment £100,000.00 or £50,000 to be an associate director (not on board). Now it’s usually by invite only. Latest director has only got 25 shares mind but offers plenty to the club including chipping in to pay the wages. |
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Post by davycrockett on May 29, 2024 12:52:30 GMT 1
Wanted to invest in the club - told no shares available but he could donate it to the foundation. But there are thousands of unissued shares 🤔 But you know they’re not available and haven’t been for years unless by invite. |
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Post by darkshrew on May 29, 2024 12:58:25 GMT 1
Wanted to invest in the club - told no shares available but he could donate it to the foundation. But there are thousands of unissued shares 🤔 I know that he made the point to Roland that there were authorised but unissued shares that could be sold to him without affecting Roland's control over the club. Roland's response was that he was not going to dilute his holding in any way and told him that if he wanted to support the club he should donate to the foundation. |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 13:08:58 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? maybe they made monkey gestures during a minutes silence, or threw a flare on the pitch, perhaps they got into a fight during the game away to Lincoln, or maybe home to derby, maybe they sang a tragedy chant, perhaps they got caught peeing where they stood, or spotted taking drugs it all happens elsewhere in the ground, where the rules are more laxed, want any links ? |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 13:23:34 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. usually, there is someone to ask who told you this ? , someone wanting proof, someone else to say there are 2 sides to every story, another to issue a health warning and for us to take it with a pinch of salt, and dont forget someone to mock you. but hey, lets ignore the obvious bit where phone calls and emails have repeatedly made threads on here for not been answered for even trivial things over the years and just run with your claims blue and amber off to a tee  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 13:30:22 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. another to issue a health warning and for us to take it with a pinch of salt That was me and I stand by it, and still do. But, that's just me, there are probably some half truths out there but what they mean, well, I'm not sure. |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 13:38:41 GMT 1
another to issue a health warning and for us to take it with a pinch of salt That was me and I stand by it, and still do. But, that's just me, there are probably some half truths out there but what they mean, well, I'm not sure. my point was , post something that is claimed to come from the club, its immediately jumped on and the messenger shot down in flames post gossip about the club and everyone wants a piece of it double standards |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 13:45:36 GMT 1
That was me and I stand by it, and still do. But, that's just me, there are probably some half truths out there but what they mean, well, I'm not sure. my point was , post something that is claimed to come from the club, its immediately jumped on and the messenger shot down in flames post gossip about the club and everyone wants a piece of it double standards I agree, especially if it's something that can be resolved by the club, as in the above case of sovereign club membership. |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 13:48:28 GMT 1
my point was , post something that is claimed to come from the club, its immediately jumped on and the messenger shot down in flames post gossip about the club and everyone wants a piece of it double standards I agree, especially if it's something that can be resolved by the club, as in the above case of sovereign club membership. the one where they phoned and emailed, didn't bother popping to the club in person except to buy a new season ticket in block 14 (I'll whisper this in case anyone gets offended "maybe they broke rules and are too embarrassed saying why" ) anyway, I've got to go, my fridge isn't working, ive telephoned and emailed currys but not got through, im just off to currys to buy another fridge |
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Post by davycrockett on May 29, 2024 14:27:43 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. usually, there is someone to ask who told you this ? , someone wanting proof, someone else to say there are 2 sides to every story, another to issue a health warning and for us to take it with a pinch of salt, and dont forget someone to mock you. but hey, lets ignore the obvious bit where phone calls and emails have repeatedly made threads on here for not been answered for even trivial things over the years and just run with your claims blue and amber off to a tee Nah that’s only for serial wind up merchants with history. |
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Post by darkshrew on May 29, 2024 15:18:49 GMT 1
Do you know if they did anything, intentionally or unintentionally, to offend Mein Fuhrer? maybe they made monkey gestures during a minutes silence, or threw a flare on the pitch, perhaps they got into a fight during the game away to Lincoln, or maybe home to derby, maybe they sang a tragedy chant, perhaps they got caught peeing where they stood, or spotted taking drugs it all happens elsewhere in the ground, where the rules are more laxed, want any links ? Those breaking the rules tend not to be the people wanting to chip in circa £250k. But if it helps, the only interaction that they have ever had with the club was on the potential investment; but keep your narrative if it pleases you. No season ticket, but he does come with his kids to block 14 at least 1 out of 3 home matches. |
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Post by dibblydobbly on May 29, 2024 15:26:25 GMT 1
I agree, especially if it's something that can be resolved by the club, as in the above case of sovereign club membership. the one where they phoned and emailed, didn't bother popping to the club in person except to buy a new season ticket in block 14 (I'll whisper this in case anyone gets offended "maybe they broke rules and are too embarrassed saying why" ) anyway, I've got to go, my fridge isn't working, ive telephoned and emailed currys but not got through, im just off to currys to buy another fridge Apologies - but are you sure you haven't offended currys? ;-) |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 15:48:49 GMT 1
maybe they made monkey gestures during a minutes silence, or threw a flare on the pitch, perhaps they got into a fight during the game away to Lincoln, or maybe home to derby, maybe they sang a tragedy chant, perhaps they got caught peeing where they stood, or spotted taking drugs it all happens elsewhere in the ground, where the rules are more laxed, want any links ? Those breaking the rules tend not to be the people wanting to chip in circa £250k. But if it helps, the only interaction that they have ever had with the club was on the potential investment; but keep your narrative if it pleases you. No season ticket, but he does come with his kids to block 14 at least 1 out of 3 home matches. so far we have a fan wanting to chip in quarter of a million, once a season ticket holder in sov suite, tried to renew from home but could not get through so instead turns up 7 times a season in block 14 I feel we are missing 99.9% of this story |
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Post by darkshrew on May 29, 2024 17:12:33 GMT 1
Those breaking the rules tend not to be the people wanting to chip in circa £250k. But if it helps, the only interaction that they have ever had with the club was on the potential investment; but keep your narrative if it pleases you. No season ticket, but he does come with his kids to block 14 at least 1 out of 3 home matches. so far we have a fan wanting to chip in quarter of a million, once a season ticket holder in sov suite, tried to renew from home but could not get through so instead turns up 7 times a season in block 14 I feel we are missing 99.9% of this story Not difficult but you seem to read quite a lot which is simply not there: He has never been a sov season ticket holder or even a regular season ticket holder. 2015/16 his eldest boy got to the age of watching football. He took him to the Meadow and they enjoyed it. His kids were mascots, he sponsored a couple of players, and he enquired about sov membership - he went to a couple of games in the sov suite and chose his seats. The club were claiming poverty at the time; he went to see the chairman with the idea of investing a bit of cash. Chairman told him he could donate the cash to the foundation as the Chairman did not want to sell shares. Club stopped communications on sov membership & he gave up chasing. Still goes to matches with his kids - sits in block 14. |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 17:30:17 GMT 1
so far we have a fan wanting to chip in quarter of a million, once a season ticket holder in sov suite, tried to renew from home but could not get through so instead turns up 7 times a season in block 14 I feel we are missing 99.9% of this story Not difficult but you seem to read quite a lot which is simply not there: He has never been a sov season ticket holder or even a regular season ticket holder. 2015/16 his eldest boy got to the age of watching football. He took him to the Meadow and they enjoyed it. His kids were mascots, he sponsored a couple of players, and he enquired about sov membership - he went to a couple of games in the sov suite and chose his seats. The club were claiming poverty at the time; he went to see the chairman with the idea of investing a bit of cash. Chairman told him he could donate the cash to the foundation as the Chairman did not want to sell shares. Club stopped communications on sov membership & he gave up chasing. Still goes to matches with his kids - sits in block 14. sounds like he wanted to buy shares and gain some perks to me, and 15/16 was a great season heres the chairman report from that season SHREWSBURY TOWN FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED CHAIRMANS REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30 JUNE 2016 Introduction The chairman presents his report for the year ended 30 June 2016. Business review The year to June 2016 has certainly has been exceptional with turnover increasing from just under £4m in the previous year to £6.8m in this financial year. |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 29, 2024 18:42:48 GMT 1
so far we have a fan wanting to chip in quarter of a million, once a season ticket holder in sov suite, tried to renew from home but could not get through so instead turns up 7 times a season in block 14 I feel we are missing 99.9% of this story Not difficult but you seem to read quite a lot which is simply not there: He has never been a sov season ticket holder or even a regular season ticket holder. 2015/16 his eldest boy got to the age of watching football. He took him to the Meadow and they enjoyed it. His kids were mascots, he sponsored a couple of players, and he enquired about sov membership - he went to a couple of games in the sov suite and chose his seats. The club were claiming poverty at the time; he went to see the chairman with the idea of investing a bit of cash. Chairman told him he could donate the cash to the foundation as the Chairman did not want to sell shares. Club stopped communications on sov membership & he gave up chasing. Still goes to matches with his kids - sits in block 14. Don't bother with details. It won't help. |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 18:44:42 GMT 1
I know someone who could not get sovereign membership; they had chosen their seats but the process was then just stopped and then they got nothing but silence from the club with unreturned calls and unanswered emails. They do go to matches in block 14 so I guess they are not banned from the club itself; just not allowed to buy into the sovereign club. usually, there is someone to ask who told you this ? , someone wanting proof, someone else to say there are 2 sides to every story, another to issue a health warning and for us to take it with a pinch of salt, and dont forget someone to mock you. but hey, lets ignore the obvious bit where phone calls and emails have repeatedly made threads on here for not been answered for even trivial things over the years and just run with your claims blue and amber off to a tee and someone with jump in the save you if you make a mess explaining things ;-) |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 29, 2024 18:48:25 GMT 1
I'm never quite sure if you deliberately misread what people say or you do it for a joke? Possibly a bit of both?
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on May 29, 2024 19:04:03 GMT 1
This thread has become a ruined thread by off topic back and forth
Pain in the arse when you keep seeing new messages added only to find it’s rubbish
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 19:07:07 GMT 1
Not difficult but you seem to read quite a lot which is simply not there: He has never been a sov season ticket holder or even a regular season ticket holder. 2015/16 his eldest boy got to the age of watching football. He took him to the Meadow and they enjoyed it. His kids were mascots, he sponsored a couple of players, and he enquired about sov membership - he went to a couple of games in the sov suite and chose his seats. The club were claiming poverty at the time; he went to see the chairman with the idea of investing a bit of cash. Chairman told him he could donate the cash to the foundation as the Chairman did not want to sell shares. Club stopped communications on sov membership & he gave up chasing. Still goes to matches with his kids - sits in block 14. sounds like he wanted to buy shares and gain some perks to me, and 15/16 was a great season heres the chairman report from that season SHREWSBURY TOWN FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED CHAIRMANS REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30 JUNE 2016 Introduction The chairman presents his report for the year ended 30 June 2016. Business review The year to June 2016 has certainly has been exceptional with turnover increasing from just under £4m in the previous year to £6.8m in this financial year. Fast forward 7 years, turnover for year end 30th June 2023....£6.2 million. 2015 - 2016 was certainly a good year, oh to be repeated. |
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Post by suttonshrew on May 29, 2024 19:13:37 GMT 1
There is a big difference between investment and buying. If someone was investing in one of my businesses as a minor shareholder (but enough to be on the board) i would consider whether i would work with them long term or if they were going to just annoy the hell out of me...... id also expect them to consider the same. That's not the case if your selling and moving on.
As for the Sov club, no one should be stopped from joining or going in there, without a very good reason, so it would be interesting to know if there was more reasoning for the club to turn down an application to join.
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 19:58:48 GMT 1
This thread has become a ruined thread by off topic back and forth Pain in the arse when you keep seeing new messages added only to find it’s rubbish Damn I thought this post was relevant 🙃 (the thread is titled rumours I heard, seems to be on topic to me, well was until this) |
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