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Post by dibblydobbly on May 18, 2024 1:26:08 GMT 1
At the risk of being branded a heretic - is there such a thing,? Least worst maybe, but best implies somthing decent You're a heretic.
What audio delights tickle your auditory hair cells? The Smurfs Go Pop! I'd wager, or a little something from the Spice Girls to spice up your cochlea?
Spice girls far too spicy for me. According to the youtube mix my favourites appear to be: Bands currently releasing music - Sabaton, played loud clearly, or dropkick murphys Bands from way back when - Credence Clearwater Revival, AC/DC, Guns N Roses. Make of that what you will
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Post by armchairfan on May 18, 2024 7:23:08 GMT 1
Last record I bought was the "Soundtrack to 2001 - A space Odyssey"...lol.
O/T sorry!
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Post by staffordshrew on May 18, 2024 9:13:18 GMT 1
You're a heretic. What audio delights tickle your auditory hair cells? The Smurfs Go Pop! I'd wager, or a little something from the Spice Girls to spice up your cochlea?
Spice girls far too spicy for me. According to the youtube mix my favourites appear to be: Bands currently releasing music - Sabaton, played loud clearly, or dropkick murphys Bands from way back when - Credence Clearwater Revival, AC/DC, Guns N Roses. Make of that what you will Now yah talkin' For those about to rock, we salute you!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 18, 2024 9:56:33 GMT 1
You're a heretic.
What audio delights tickle your auditory hair cells? The Smurfs Go Pop! I'd wager, or a little something from the Spice Girls to spice up your cochlea?
Spice girls far too spicy for me. According to the youtube mix my favourites appear to be: Bands currently releasing music - Sabaton, played loud clearly, or dropkick murphys Bands from way back when - Credence Clearwater Revival, AC/DC, Guns N Roses. Make of that what you will Dont do modern music but your older stuff I'd give 10/10 for.
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Post by mattmw on May 18, 2024 15:35:21 GMT 1
For a rumours thread this is well short of any decent rumours. Which in itself suggests we're maybe in for a pretty quiet summer both on and off the pitch. Looking back on the clubs history since it became a league club in the 50's the ownership and leadership of the club has always been very locally based, and generally when one Chairman steps down the role has been taken on by another director whose been on the board for a while. Very much evolution rather than revolution I think whats quite sad is that despite the last 10 years being a pretty successful and stable time for the club in league one, the lack of local businessmen and women getting involved in the club as they did in the past seems to have declined, and where once we might have had 3-4 directors willing and able to take over when the Chairman steps down thats not the case now. We can and have speculated on why thats the case, but one way or the other it looks unlikely that the next owner/chairman of the club is going to be a local person with a long association with the club. The old way of working is no more To me it seems there are four possible new ways forward 1. The new owner is a rich individual(s) looking to invest in a lower league club to promote and expand their brand in the UK 2. A consortium of like minded individuals (likely from abroad) who want to get involved in the English football league for their entertainment and hopefully progression of the club up the leagues 3. A fan/community based ownership model is progressed which would see the club transfered to a new model of ownership, but this would be unlikely to generate a significant sale price for the owner - more a charitable donation of the asset to a properly constituated group that would protect its future 4. No new ownership emerges and without investment the existing owners have to continue to bank role the club until their own resources can no longer do so, or the budget is reduced significantly to save money. At the moment there seems little sign that the first 3 options have much weight behind them, and all indications are its option 4 we are most likely looking at for the next 12-18 months at least Given your opinion that 1 - 3 have little weight behind them ( I genuinely cannot offer an opinion) we are left with No.4, but that fails to point out the inevitable consequence - the end of Shrewsbury Town F.C. at least in the EFL. AM I the only person who sees that as a distinct possibility unless something is done? Sorry for sounding negative, but it's only my opinion, so carries little weight itself. I think with option 4, which is basically the exisiting status quo of the board continuing to fund the club, the unknown factor, as least in my mind is what happens to the shares and ownership of the club when the Chairman is no longer around, which is unfortunately something that will happen in the reasonably near future. Those with the ear of the Chairman indicate that a process is in position for when this unfortunate event occurs, and it maybe at that stage that the community ownership model becomes more viable. I don't know the family circumstances, but there is no other obvious member of the Chairman's family on the board to whom the asset would transfer, and I'm not even sure if there are children who would inherit the club. So its possible the assets in the club the chairman holds could transfer to trust or charitable organisation in the future. You would certainly assume after so long being linked to the club its future will be considered as part of his estate. I could certainly see a future model of ownership where the ground and physical assets of the club are transfered to a community style model, and the commercial and paying side of the club being run alongside this, potentially with some past board members or other local people who have finance available may also be inclined to review their investment in the future as well. To me that seems the most likely long term future in light of no obvious other alternative on the horizon
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Post by The Clash 1966 on May 18, 2024 15:48:21 GMT 1
Spice girls far too spicy for me. According to the youtube mix my favourites appear to be: Bands currently releasing music - Sabaton, played loud clearly, or dropkick murphys Bands from way back when - Credence Clearwater Revival, AC/DC, Guns N Roses. Make of that what you will Dont do modern music but your older stuff I'd give 10/10 for. Currently working through my Record Store Day purchases from last month. Which are Bowie, the Cramps, Ladytron , Propaganda, sonic Youth, T Rex, the Fall, Siouxsie & Banshees, the Ramones and Garbage. I've also got the Waterboys and the Blue Nile on preorder due to be released next month.
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Post by Pilch on May 18, 2024 16:03:21 GMT 1
Given your opinion that 1 - 3 have little weight behind them ( I genuinely cannot offer an opinion) we are left with No.4, but that fails to point out the inevitable consequence - the end of Shrewsbury Town F.C. at least in the EFL. AM I the only person who sees that as a distinct possibility unless something is done? Sorry for sounding negative, but it's only my opinion, so carries little weight itself. I think with option 4, which is basically the exisiting status quo of the board continuing to fund the club, the unknown factor, as least in my mind is what happens to the shares and ownership of the club when the Chairman is no longer around, which is unfortunately something that will happen in the reasonably near future. Those with the ear of the Chairman indicate that a process is in position for when this unfortunate event occurs, and it maybe at that stage that the community ownership model becomes more viable. I don't know the family circumstances, but there is no other obvious member of the Chairman's family on the board to whom the asset would transfer, and I'm not even sure if there are children who would inherit the club. So its possible the assets in the club the chairman holds could transfer to trust or charitable organisation in the future. You would certainly assume after so long being linked to the club its future will be considered as part of his estate. I could certainly see a future model of ownership where the ground and physical assets of the club are transfered to a community style model, and the commercial and paying side of the club being run alongside this, potentially with some past board members or other local people who have finance available may also be inclined to review their investment in the future as well. To me that seems the most likely long term future in light of no obvious other alternative on the horizon I dont really know his family but by chance I've sat next to his daughter at least once this season, she attends every game we did ask the question at the meeting about are there plans in place, the answer was yes, we did ask but were not told what so I guess it is private which is fair enough
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Post by bizzylad on May 19, 2024 8:12:25 GMT 1
Salop interested in a loan move for young Crystal Palace keeper Joe Whitworth ..
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Post by neilsalop on May 19, 2024 8:54:45 GMT 1
Salop interested in a loan move for young Crystal Palace keeper Joe Whitworth .. With Henderson currently the Palace no.1 and his history here with Hurst, it might be seen as a good move for the lad. It didn't harm his development.
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Post by darkshrew on May 19, 2024 13:37:24 GMT 1
I think with option 4, which is basically the exisiting status quo of the board continuing to fund the club, the unknown factor, as least in my mind is what happens to the shares and ownership of the club when the Chairman is no longer around, which is unfortunately something that will happen in the reasonably near future. Those with the ear of the Chairman indicate that a process is in position for when this unfortunate event occurs, and it maybe at that stage that the community ownership model becomes more viable. I don't know the family circumstances, but there is no other obvious member of the Chairman's family on the board to whom the asset would transfer, and I'm not even sure if there are children who would inherit the club. So its possible the assets in the club the chairman holds could transfer to trust or charitable organisation in the future. You would certainly assume after so long being linked to the club its future will be considered as part of his estate. I could certainly see a future model of ownership where the ground and physical assets of the club are transfered to a community style model, and the commercial and paying side of the club being run alongside this, potentially with some past board members or other local people who have finance available may also be inclined to review their investment in the future as well. To me that seems the most likely long term future in light of no obvious other alternative on the horizon I dont really know his family but by chance I've sat next to his daughter at least once this season, she attends every game we did ask the question at the meeting about are there plans in place, the answer was yes, we did ask but were not told what so I guess it is private which is fair enough I don't think that Lisa has the slightest interest in having anything to do with running the club.
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Post by dibblydobbly on May 19, 2024 18:53:11 GMT 1
Dont do modern music but your older stuff I'd give 10/10 for. Currently working through my Record Store Day purchases from last month. Which are Bowie, the Cramps, Ladytron , Propaganda, sonic Youth, T Rex, the Fall, Siouxsie & Banshees, the Ramones and Garbage. I've also got the Waterboys and the Blue Nile on preorder due to be released next month. Sounds like the Whole of the Moon to me
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 25, 2024 9:32:01 GMT 1
I'm not sure if it was an old post that I caught a glimpse of or whether it was recent but on the Facebook page someone mentioned that the rumored Swedish consortium had offered 12 million for the club plus 30 million investment. Anyone else see that? Was it an old post that resurfaced or was it a new?
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Post by Exkeeper on May 25, 2024 10:17:27 GMT 1
I'm not sure if it was an old post that I caught a glimpse of or whether it was recent but on the Facebook page someone mentioned that the rumored Swedish consortium had offered 12 million for the club plus 30 million investment. Anyone else see that? Was it an old post that resurfaced or was it a new? Seemed to be someone who had just returned from a few months on the Dark side of the Moon who had missed the original rumour. The poster was directed to the Salopcast link of a while back. to help with catching up. As someone pointed out, £30m would keep us chugging along for ten years at the current date of losing £3m p.a. Alternatively, blow the lot on players and wages for the sake of a couple of years in the Championship and then join the downward spiral taken by other “ boom and bust” clubs from the recent past
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 25, 2024 10:19:13 GMT 1
I'm not sure if it was an old post that I caught a glimpse of or whether it was recent but on the Facebook page someone mentioned that the rumored Swedish consortium had offered 12 million for the club plus 30 million investment. Anyone else see that? Was it an old post that resurfaced or was it a new? Seemed to be someone who had just returned from a few months on the Dark side of the Moon who had missed the original rumour. The poster was directed to the Salopcast link of a while back. to help with catching up. As someone pointed out, £30m would keep us chugging along for ten years at the current date of losing £3m p.a. Alternatively, blow the lot on players and wages for the sake of a couple of years in the Championship and then join the downward spiral taken by other “ boom and bust” clubs from the recent past Thanks for the info...👍
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Post by Namur on May 25, 2024 10:45:35 GMT 1
I'm not sure if it was an old post that I caught a glimpse of or whether it was recent but on the Facebook page someone mentioned that the rumored Swedish consortium had offered 12 million for the club plus 30 million investment. Anyone else see that? Was it an old post that resurfaced or was it a new? Seemed to be someone who had just returned from a few months on the Dark side of the Moon who had missed the original rumour. The poster was directed to the Salopcast link of a while back. to help with catching up. As someone pointed out, £30m would keep us chugging along for ten years at the current date of losing £3m p.a. Alternatively, blow the lot on players and wages for the sake of a couple of years in the Championship and then join the downward spiral taken by other “ boom and bust” clubs from the recent past Seemed like another one who gets excited over what they think is a bit of juicy inside gossip, then immediately serves to spread it out on social media in a ‘I know something you don’t know’ manner. If nothing else it served to demonstrate why clubs get in trouble. A lot of people looking at £30 million, trotting out predictable lines about the ‘chairman’s ego’ and thinking we’ve missed a huge opportunity without really considering anything more. Would all this money be coming at once or drip fed? How confident could we be it would come? What would happen once the £30million squad investment is used up? What assurances / security is there that the club grounds wouldn’t be separated away from the club? It’s all ifs and buts, and a lot of information we’re not privy to (nor expected to be). The chairman could have missed a huge opportunity to drive the club forward. Or he could have saved us from reforming as AFC Shrewsburybin a few years time.
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Post by Pilch on May 25, 2024 11:17:07 GMT 1
I'm not sure if it was an old post that I caught a glimpse of or whether it was recent but on the Facebook page someone mentioned that the rumored Swedish consortium had offered 12 million for the club plus 30 million investment. Anyone else see that? Was it an old post that resurfaced or was it a new? The Swedish lot last appeared around the turn of the year , and gave 24 hours notice demanding exclusive talks for 12 months to try and secure an £8m deal , town already in talks with 2 parties for a better deal couldn't agreed to it and the swedes sent a parting goodbye text
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Post by pepi64 on May 25, 2024 20:28:50 GMT 1
I'm not sure if it was an old post that I caught a glimpse of or whether it was recent but on the Facebook page someone mentioned that the rumored Swedish consortium had offered 12 million for the club plus 30 million investment. Anyone else see that? Was it an old post that resurfaced or was it a new? Seemed to be someone who had just returned from a few months on the Dark side of the Moon who had missed the original rumour. The poster was directed to the Salopcast link of a while back. to help with catching up. As someone pointed out, £30m would keep us chugging along for ten years at the current date of losing £3m p.a. Alternatively, blow the lot on players and wages for the sake of a couple of years in the Championship and then join the downward spiral taken by other “ boom and bust” clubs from the recent past Yes heard the same.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 26, 2024 12:12:34 GMT 1
All ifs and buts and such rumours do tend to leave more questions than answers but lets just say there is a consortium wishing to purchase the club for 12 million with a further investment of 30 million (whether immediate or over time), if that's not good enough to consider selling then what is? What exactly is the chairman asking for and more to the point, just how many people out there would be willing and able to match such criteria. I mean how much of his own money has the chairman put into the club recently, say?
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Post by Pilch on May 26, 2024 12:34:24 GMT 1
we clearly have here an example of fake news mixed with Chinese whispers
surprised no one has connected it
it was only January during a meeting at the meadow that someone knocked up a twitter account pretending to be James Hughes and posted a tweet only to quickly delete it, the deleted tweet I'll post at the bottom
at the time, someone messaged me to say he knows James Hughes well and it was definitely him, I challenged them to put me in contact with James Hughes and I'd put forward any claims he wanted to make on here but didn't hear anther peep
I know the club suggest this is totally fabricated and not only is the offer incorrect but there was zero mention of investment in the talks
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 26, 2024 13:43:16 GMT 1
All ifs and buts and such rumours do tend to leave more questions than answers but lets just say there is a consortium wishing to purchase the club for 12 million with a further investment of 30 million (whether immediate or over time), if that's not good enough to consider selling then what is? What exactly is the chairman asking for and more to the point, just how many people out there would be willing and able to match such criteria. I mean how much of his own money has the chairman put into the club recently, say? All ifs and buts as you say, but let us say, for arguments sake that: 1) The Chairman wants more than £12million for the club. 2) He will only sell to a local buyer/consortium. 3) He wants to stay on as Chairman for a specified time. 4) He wants to retain some level of involvement even after selling. 5) He wants the existing management structure to remain in place (CEO, Director of Football) and that one or more of the above are just too restrictive in their nature for prospective buyers?
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Post by Pilch on May 26, 2024 14:25:00 GMT 1
All ifs and buts and such rumours do tend to leave more questions than answers but lets just say there is a consortium wishing to purchase the club for 12 million with a further investment of 30 million (whether immediate or over time), if that's not good enough to consider selling then what is? What exactly is the chairman asking for and more to the point, just how many people out there would be willing and able to match such criteria. I mean how much of his own money has the chairman put into the club recently, say? All ifs and buts as you say, but let us say, for arguments sake that: 1) The Chairman wants more than £12million for the club. 2) He will only sell to a local buyer/consortium. 3) He wants to stay on as Chairman for a specified time. 4) He wants to retain some level of involvement even after selling. 5) He wants the existing management structure to remain in place (CEO, Director of Football) and that one or more of the above are just too restrictive in their nature for prospective buyers? Just to argue 1 the price is £10m , delves was offered it for £8m 2 it's on offer to anyone who has the clubs best interest going forward 3 he is willing to stay on to oversee any continuity the new owners request ( so far they all have requested this ) 4 he only wants to pursue a retirement/business dream elsewhere 5 only the price and clubs best interest are a necessity
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 26, 2024 14:39:14 GMT 1
Thanks Mr Chairman for the clarification
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Post by Pilch on May 26, 2024 14:56:09 GMT 1
Thanks Mr Chairman for the clarification you're welcome mr Chinese whispers
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Post by FloreatShrew on May 26, 2024 18:52:02 GMT 1
Point 3 I know is incorrect. They wanted him to go and he refused.
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Post by Pilch on May 26, 2024 18:59:50 GMT 1
Point 3 I know is incorrect. They wanted him to go and he refused. who's they. ? and what decade are you on about ? whoever it is if they were 100% genuine and went public , we all know that would result in them fast tracking themselves into the club in no time at all but no, they slip off quietly tail between legs and you forget , points 1 & 2 need completing first or 3 4 & 5 are irrelevant
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Post by ollieshrews on May 27, 2024 6:47:34 GMT 1
Point 3 I know is incorrect. They wanted him to go and he refused. Correct. Who would want the old owner hanging around. The secretary is very good at getting their message and narrative across on B&A.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 27, 2024 8:58:50 GMT 1
What to believe. I suppose it could come about if you had a group looking to invest in the club and then take a back seat leaving the current board to continue on (like at Lincoln for example) but I thought the idea was to find a buyer because, and I don't like discussing such things as it feels a little off, the chairman is getting on a bit and needs to sort the future of the club out sooner rather than later. So I would have thought those coming in would be looking to take the reins as it were, not remain in the background. So it would seem a strange request to make.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 27, 2024 9:07:42 GMT 1
Point 3 I know is incorrect. They wanted him to go and he refused. who's they. ? and what decade are you on about ? whoever it is if they were 100% genuine and went public , we all know that would result in them fast tracking themselves into the club in no time at all but no, they slip off quietly tail between legs and you forget , points 1 & 2 need completing first or 3 4 & 5 are irrelevant By "slipping off with their tails between their legs" do you also mean "lifelong wealthy fans who are so burned they hardly go anymore" Your problem is that this is Shrewsbury and many people know them personally. You see and hear them move from the chairman's greatest proponent and defender to something different. There are two sides to every story. Your "facts" are just as much rumour as the rumours because it is one side of the story with no redress. And yours come from an organisational culture known to spin a narrative. Kit C didn't win the vote, the footpaths were ALWAYS our responsibility, you CAN have copyright on the Loggerheads and you can retrospectively fit toilets seats. If an organisational culture is so willing to mislead fans then why do we assume their narrative is reliable now? It's not even just former prospective owners, it's many former staff who might not know the ins and outs of the takeover stuff but have a very consistent picture of certain key people that plays 100% into the other rumours about them.
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Post by davycrockett on May 27, 2024 10:00:13 GMT 1
we clearly have here an example of fake news mixed with Chinese whispers surprised no one has connected it it was only January during a meeting at the meadow that someone knocked up a twitter account pretending to be James Hughes and posted a tweet only to quickly delete it, the deleted tweet I'll post at the bottomat the time, someone messaged me to say he knows James Hughes well and it was definitely him, I challenged them to put me in contact with James Hughes and I'd put forward any claims he wanted to make on here but didn't hear anther peep I know the club suggest this is totally fabricated and not only is the offer incorrect but there was zero mention of investment in the talks Im really confused now. Are you suggesting the ‘tweet’ originated from the club, during a meeting? Why would the club do that. 🤔 Totally fabricated yet zero mention of investment in the talks, so not totally fabricated, there were talks?
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Post by Pilch on May 27, 2024 10:51:39 GMT 1
we clearly have here an example of fake news mixed with Chinese whispers surprised no one has connected it it was only January during a meeting at the meadow that someone knocked up a twitter account pretending to be James Hughes and posted a tweet only to quickly delete it, the deleted tweet I'll post at the bottomat the time, someone messaged me to say he knows James Hughes well and it was definitely him, I challenged them to put me in contact with James Hughes and I'd put forward any claims he wanted to make on here but didn't hear anther peep I know the club suggest this is totally fabricated and not only is the offer incorrect but there was zero mention of investment in the talks Im really confused now. Are you suggesting the ‘tweet’ originated from the club, during a meeting? Why would the club do that. 🤔 Totally fabricated yet zero mention of investment in the talks, so not totally fabricated, there were talks? Not at all , far from it , it was that meeting that fans had be crying for for years , liams attempt to end the long running non communication to the fans complaints , and then during the meeting we get someone post that , clearly a cowardly attempt to try and distract the good intentions of the club , They could have walked into that meeting and brought that up had they had a face
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