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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 7, 2024 21:35:23 GMT 1
- Club sale/investment potentially imminent
- Max Mata could be off to New Zealand
- Micky Moore out of favour.
Can’t divulge my sources but has anyone else heard similar?
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Post by bordersalopian on May 7, 2024 22:13:38 GMT 1
Potential investment from Stateside (although also heard of interest from a Scandanavian Group?)
Mata rumour could be beneficial to all parties (still our player so would go for a fee)
MM...hardly surprising. The experiment hadn't worked. Could be part of the PH/CD deal - they'll want to bring in their own players.
Source: Heinz Salad Cream
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Post by Pilch on May 7, 2024 22:20:38 GMT 1
Potential investment from Stateside (although also heard of interest from a Scandanavian Group?) Mata rumour could be beneficial to all parties (still our player so would go for a fee) MM...hardly surprising. The experiment hadn't worked. Could be part of the PH/CD deal - they'll want to bring in their own players. Source: Heinz Salad Cream last I heard there was talks with 2 parties, the Scandinavians had reappeared earlier in the year wanting a discount and exclusive talks meaning the other 2 parties were immediately frozen out, they were told no so sulked off looking towards Burton I think ? sending a snotty goodbye text as they went, that was almost 2 weeks ago, we are desperate to sell and I guess the league 1 survival might have recently rejuvenated any interest in us dont quote me though
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Post by hectord0g137 on May 7, 2024 22:51:19 GMT 1
I heard a misheard possibly misquoted rumour that someone may of heard from someone who may be in the know but wasn't certain that he didn't know what is going on
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Post by mrcricket on May 7, 2024 23:18:01 GMT 1
Narrowing down the Geography, wasn't it a Swedish group interested?
Source : Ikea Mustard
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Post by belfastshrew on May 7, 2024 23:36:08 GMT 1
Rumours is Fleetwood not ABBA
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Post by staffordshrew on May 8, 2024 0:10:39 GMT 1
The Eskimos were interested but were frozen out. The Germans were interested in a takeover, but that was over 70 years ago. The Czech's cheque bounced. Richard Branson's offer was dismissed as virgin on the ridiculous.
Source: We'll have less of that please!
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Post by darkshrew on May 8, 2024 7:21:11 GMT 1
- Club sale/investment potentially imminent - Max Mata could be off to New Zealand - Micky Moore out of favour. Can’t divulge my sources but has anyone else heard similar? They are all things that somebody would say to me to make me feel better. Is your source worried about your health or wanting to cheer you up ?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on May 8, 2024 7:56:07 GMT 1
Wondering if I'm the only one, after almost ten season of generally mundane and pretty boring League One football who wouldn't love us to be the next billionaire's play thing? Imagine the next ten years being a rollercoaster of endless promotions, wow signings, incredible away trips, championship football, the quarter finals of the FA cup, before over spending, the owner getting bored, the whole thing crashing and burning and us all then getting excited about watching AFC Shrewsbury in the West Midlands (Regional) League.
What an adventure that would be, probably how Wycombe fans are feeling right now. Oh well, I can stop daydreaming.
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 8:12:10 GMT 1
Wondering if I'm the only one, after almost ten season of generally mundane and pretty boring League One football who wouldn't love us to be the next billionaire's play thing? Imagine the next ten years being a rollercoaster of endless promotions, wow signings, incredible away trips, championship football, the quarter finals of the FA cup, before over spending, the owner getting bored, the whole thing crashing and burning and us all then getting excited about watching AFC Shrewsbury in the West Midlands (Regional) League. What an adventure that would be, probably how Wycombe fans are feeling right now. Oh well, I can stop daydreaming. bit like when Coates took control of Stoke in 2006, and the Venkys of Blackburn in 2010, its been more of a skydive than a rollercoaster and plenty of other examples , Sunderland, Reading etc and then there is the likes of Wrexham , Salford, Ipswich a story of success I think the trick is to buy a club when they are at rock bottom in their history, and not punching above their weight which you could argue we are
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 8, 2024 8:37:24 GMT 1
Wondering if I'm the only one, after almost ten season of generally mundane and pretty boring League One football who wouldn't love us to be the next billionaire's play thing? Imagine the next ten years being a rollercoaster of endless promotions, wow signings, incredible away trips, championship football, the quarter finals of the FA cup, before over spending, the owner getting bored, the whole thing crashing and burning and us all then getting excited about watching AFC Shrewsbury in the West Midlands (Regional) League. What an adventure that would be, probably how Wycombe fans are feeling right now. Oh well, I can stop daydreaming. Mundane and boring is about right. We've stalled and have done for sometime now; as a club we have done next to nothing since getting back to this level and after ten years we look more likely to go down than up. So I know what you are getting at but I would think most of us are just looking for a change, some new impetus, some new ideas. I don't think it need be some billionaire's play thing to bring that about. Just something, anything, that would give the club a bit of a jumpstart and give us supporters some hope that things are to improve. Careful what you wish for I suppose but I do think the sooner we move on the better.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on May 8, 2024 8:53:16 GMT 1
Wondering if I'm the only one, after almost ten season of generally mundane and pretty boring League One football who wouldn't love us to be the next billionaire's play thing? Imagine the next ten years being a rollercoaster of endless promotions, wow signings, incredible away trips, championship football, the quarter finals of the FA cup, before over spending, the owner getting bored, the whole thing crashing and burning and us all then getting excited about watching AFC Shrewsbury in the West Midlands (Regional) League. What an adventure that would be, probably how Wycombe fans are feeling right now. Oh well, I can stop daydreaming. Mundane and boring is about right. We've stalled and have done for sometime now; as a club we have done next to nothing since getting back to this level and after ten years we look more likely to go down than up. So I know what you are getting at but I would think most of us are just looking for a change, some new impetus, some new ideas. I don't think it need be some billionaire's play thing to bring that about. Just something, anything, that would give the club a bit of a jumpstart and give us supporters some hope that things are to improve. Careful what you wish for I suppose but I do think the sooner we move on the better. Yes, in all reality, and once the day dreaming stops, it's this, exactly this. Something, anything, to quell the inertia that's hit, and which seems to have stuck. A club treading water, almost a zombie club, just about enough to survive at this level, not enough to thrive. Truth be told if you told me we'd have a competitive team at the top of League 2, I'd take relegation next season, just to inject some excitement again. Don't get me wrong, I'll always 'enjoy' watching Town, always, and even this season I've had some memorable experiences, Northampton and Reading away being two excellent examples, but the thrill of the Hurst season still ripples through me, even the gentle shiver of excitement I got when we went to Derby under Cotterill with an outside sniff of the play offs is a feeling I well remember. Basically I crave some more of that and if it takes some new investment and maybe even a touch of risk taking then I'm good with that, and there's never been a better time it seems to seek inward investment in English football. Basically, I just wish we could get a little taste of that thrill, that's all.
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Post by MartinB on May 8, 2024 9:11:00 GMT 1
Wondering if I'm the only one, after almost ten season of generally mundane and pretty boring League One football who wouldn't love us to be the next billionaire's play thing? Imagine the next ten years being a rollercoaster of endless promotions, wow signings, incredible away trips, championship football, the quarter finals of the FA cup, before over spending, the owner getting bored, the whole thing crashing and burning and us all then getting excited about watching AFC Shrewsbury in the West Midlands (Regional) League. What an adventure that would be, probably how Wycombe fans are feeling right now. Oh well, I can stop daydreaming. bit like when Coates control of Stoke in 2006, and the Venkys of Blackburn in 2010, its been more of a skydive than a rollercoaster and plenty of other examples , Sunderland, Reading etc and then there is the likes of Wrexham , Salford, Ipswich a story of success I think the trick is to buy a club when they are at rock bottom in their history, and not punching above their weight which you could argue we are Ipswich is an example of losing 100's of millions before finding right manager. Hollywood is very early days. Once owners stop taking 10% of Clubs turnover for own profit likely to get bored
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 9:19:38 GMT 1
Mundane and boring is about right. We've stalled and have done for sometime now; as a club we have done next to nothing since getting back to this level and after ten years we look more likely to go down than up. So I know what you are getting at but I would think most of us are just looking for a change, some new impetus, some new ideas. I don't think it need be some billionaire's play thing to bring that about. Just something, anything, that would give the club a bit of a jumpstart and give us supporters some hope that things are to improve. Careful what you wish for I suppose but I do think the sooner we move on the better. Yes, in all reality, and once the day dreaming stops, it's this, exactly this. Something, anything, to quell the inertia that's hit, and which seems to have stuck. A club treading water, almost a zombie club, just about enough to survive at this level, not enough to thrive. Truth be told if you told me we'd have a competitive team at the top of League 2, I'd take relegation next season, just to inject some excitement again. Don't get me wrong, I'll always 'enjoy' watching Town, always, and even this season I've had some memorable experiences, Northampton and Reading away being two excellent examples, but the thrill of the Hurst season still ripples through me, even the gentle shiver of excitement I got when we went to Derby under Cotterill with an outside sniff of the play offs is a feeling I well remember. Basically I crave some more of that and if it takes some new investment and maybe even a touch of risk taking then I'm good with that, and there's never been a better time it seems to seek inward investment in English football. Basically, I just wish we could get a little taste of that thrill, that's all. That amazing season from cotterill that netted us 11 more points than this current one that many class as abysmal Fine margins 😝
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on May 8, 2024 9:27:16 GMT 1
Yes, in all reality, and once the day dreaming stops, it's this, exactly this. Something, anything, to quell the inertia that's hit, and which seems to have stuck. A club treading water, almost a zombie club, just about enough to survive at this level, not enough to thrive. Truth be told if you told me we'd have a competitive team at the top of League 2, I'd take relegation next season, just to inject some excitement again. Don't get me wrong, I'll always 'enjoy' watching Town, always, and even this season I've had some memorable experiences, Northampton and Reading away being two excellent examples, but the thrill of the Hurst season still ripples through me, even the gentle shiver of excitement I got when we went to Derby under Cotterill with an outside sniff of the play offs is a feeling I well remember. Basically I crave some more of that and if it takes some new investment and maybe even a touch of risk taking then I'm good with that, and there's never been a better time it seems to seek inward investment in English football. Basically, I just wish we could get a little taste of that thrill, that's all. That amazing season from cotterill that netted us 11 more points than this current one that many class as abysmal Fine margins 😝 Of course, that's why I carefully chose my language. That season ended abysmally but at one point, when we had won six on the bounce, I stand by my description that there was some excitement around the club and around the very faint chance we might make the play offs. We all know what happened next of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that I remember and crave the thrill that came with it, not the mundanity and boredom that seems to flow season after season right now. If it takes some change at the top AND some risk taking to sweep away the apathy that seeps right through the club and, I suspect, also through many of its fans, then I'm all for that.
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 9:46:35 GMT 1
That amazing season from cotterill that netted us 11 more points than this current one that many class as abysmal Fine margins 😝 Of course, that's why I carefully chose my language. That season ended abysmally but at one point, when we had won six on the bounce, I stand by my description that there was some excitement around the club and around the very faint chance we might make the play offs. We all know what happened next of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that I remember and crave the thrill that came with it, not the mundanity and boredom that seems to flow season after season right now. If it takes some change at the top AND some risk taking to sweep away the apathy that seeps right through the club and, I suspect, also through many of it's fans, then I'm all for that. And yet that was only last season , but we now have the same guy who us to the brink of promotion just a few years earlier ,( our 2 best seasons since the 80s) and some fans are crying for change saying we are stagnant and need big changes , bizarre 🤔
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Post by davycrockett on May 8, 2024 9:56:43 GMT 1
Of course, that's why I carefully chose my language. That season ended abysmally but at one point, when we had won six on the bounce, I stand by my description that there was some excitement around the club and around the very faint chance we might make the play offs. We all know what happened next of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that I remember and crave the thrill that came with it, not the mundanity and boredom that seems to flow season after season right now. If it takes some change at the top AND some risk taking to sweep away the apathy that seeps right through the club and, I suspect, also through many of it's fans, then I'm all for that. And yet that was only last season , but we now have the same guy who us to the brink of promotion just a few years earlier , and some fans are crying for change saying we are stagnant and need big changes , bizarre 🤔 Don’t see many calling for change in manager, more a change in club ownership and investment to make us able to compete including our current owner who’s been quoted as ’desperate to sell’. You make it sound like you don’t want a change and everyone’s calling for the managers head. Some questioning the sense of a DoF but as you’d expect pretty split on that. (As I’ve heard the board are)
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 9:57:59 GMT 1
And yet that was only last season , but we now have the same guy who us to the brink of promotion just a few years earlier , and some fans are crying for change saying we are stagnant and need big changes , bizarre 🤔 Don’t see many calling for change in manager, more a change in club ownership and investment to make us able to compete including our current owner who’s been quoted as ’desperate to sell’. You make it sound like you don’t want a change and everyone’s calling for the managers head. Some questioning the sense of a DoF but as you’d expect pretty split on that. you make it sound like changing the owner will improve things , I'll judge them after I've seen what they achieve , in the meantime we still have RW and judging ithe last few seasons things are not too bad , 10 years in league 1 , a steady flow of decent cup results and very nearly a promotion , I mean where do fans think we should be ?
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Post by davycrockett on May 8, 2024 10:01:25 GMT 1
Don’t see many calling for change in manager, more a change in club ownership and investment to make us able to compete including our current owner who’s been quoted as ’desperate to sell’. You make it sound like you don’t want a change and everyone’s calling for the managers head. Some questioning the sense of a DoF but as you’d expect pretty split on that. you make it sound like changing the owner will improve things Hopefully but we haven’t got much option with the owner ‘desperate to sell for the last 10 years’ and the club running into debt meaning the values dropping (now saddled with Directors loans north of £2million) perhaps making it more attractive to buy?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on May 8, 2024 10:03:49 GMT 1
Of course, that's why I carefully chose my language. That season ended abysmally but at one point, when we had won six on the bounce, I stand by my description that there was some excitement around the club and around the very faint chance we might make the play offs. We all know what happened next of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that I remember and crave the thrill that came with it, not the mundanity and boredom that seems to flow season after season right now. If it takes some change at the top AND some risk taking to sweep away the apathy that seeps right through the club and, I suspect, also through many of it's fans, then I'm all for that. And yet that was only last season , but we now have the same guy who us to the brink of promotion just a few years earlier , and some fans are crying for change saying we are stagnant and need big changes , bizarre 🤔 Each to their own here Pilch, and while it would be wonderful to think Hurst will repeat the success he brought to the club seven years ago all signs and all logic, plus Hurst's record generally as a manager, point towards that season simply being a magical blip, and that next season will be more of the same. Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted Hurst is back. If only for what I know we'll get, which will be a well organised, tactically intelligent and hard working team. Sometimes, as Shrewsbury fans, that's enough, to see players putting in effort, and occasionally being rewarded with a decent result and the odd entertaining game. My call otherwise is that I'm just a bit tired of season after season of the kind of fare we've been served, and a huge part of me would love the thrill of a roller coaster ride of investment. My son is 15 and has been a season ticket holder at Ipswich for five seasons now. The joy he's been experiencing is absolutely incredible to see, I am so so so happy for him, but a little bit of me craves that thrill as well. So, I don't think we 'need' big changes, I think Hurst will give us a decent season actually. I think we'll be hard working and I trust him more than anyone else to get the absolute most out of a group of journeymen players, and I think we can look forward to 16th place if we're lucky and maybe even a few decent away games. But, what I am saying is I would absolutely love the thrill that comes with some change at the very top.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 8, 2024 10:06:18 GMT 1
That amazing season from cotterill that netted us 11 more points than this current one that many class as abysmal Fine margins 😝 That season ended abysmally but at one point, when we had won six on the bounce, I stand by my description that there was some excitement around the club and around the very faint chance we might make the play offs. We all know what happened next of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that I remember and crave the thrill that came with it, not the mundanity and boredom that seems to flow season after season right now. Its a point well made as that's the thing isn't it, other than the Hurst season it's that one fleeting moment (before it all went tits up anyhow) that you can look to. That that is some kind of highlight speaks volumes. It kinda proves the point.
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Post by shrewswolf on May 8, 2024 10:06:58 GMT 1
As I keep saying, if Roland is the huge trustworthy, club over personal interests guy that his biggest supporters think he is (and I would agree) then he won’t sell to a rogue, will he?
Therefore, given our trajectory under him is losing lots of money to achieve survival in the final weeks of the season, we would have to assume change of ownership will be a positive because the only way to compete now is having an owner willing to lose money and cover the losses. Roland clearly isn’t, it’s why he’s selling up quickly all of a sudden.
I agree with Stowmarket, anything bordering on excitement and ambition will do me at this current time. There is only so long you can enjoy shoestring budgets and football that bores you to death as a result.
It may go tits up, and a change of ownership does worry me for obvious reasons but the time is now. And in Roland we trust? No?
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 10:17:50 GMT 1
As I keep saying, if Roland is the huge trustworthy, club over personal interests guy that his biggest supporters think he is (and I would agree) then he won’t sell to a rogue, will he? Therefore, given our trajectory under him is losing lots of money to achieve survival in the final weeks of the season, we would have to assume change of ownership will be a positive because the only way to compete now is having an owner willing to lose money and cover the losses. Roland clearly isn’t, it’s why he’s selling up quickly all of a sudden. I agree with Stowmarket, anything bordering on excitement and ambition will do me at this current time. There is only so long you can enjoy shoestring budgets and football that bores you to death as a result. It may go tits up, and a change of ownership does worry me for obvious reasons but the time is now. And in Roland we trust? No? Maybe potential rich new owners can invent a higher ffp limit for us too , so as to buy better players without breaking rules
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Post by shrewswolf on May 8, 2024 10:23:08 GMT 1
As I keep saying, if Roland is the huge trustworthy, club over personal interests guy that his biggest supporters think he is (and I would agree) then he won’t sell to a rogue, will he? Therefore, given our trajectory under him is losing lots of money to achieve survival in the final weeks of the season, we would have to assume change of ownership will be a positive because the only way to compete now is having an owner willing to lose money and cover the losses. Roland clearly isn’t, it’s why he’s selling up quickly all of a sudden. I agree with Stowmarket, anything bordering on excitement and ambition will do me at this current time. There is only so long you can enjoy shoestring budgets and football that bores you to death as a result. It may go tits up, and a change of ownership does worry me for obvious reasons but the time is now. And in Roland we trust? No? Maybe potential rich new owners can invent a higher ffp limit for us too , so as to buy better players without breaking rules Maybe they will through sponsorship loopholes? We just don’t know. Cotterill’s mad spending didn’t break FFP but Roland isn’t the type to want to fund. The new owners just might? If Hurst is given the Cotterill budget, willingly, he’ll have more chance of bringing a degree of success? Arguably SC massively wasted the opportunity he was ‘given’.
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 10:30:19 GMT 1
Maybe potential rich new owners can invent a higher ffp limit for us too , so as to buy better players without breaking rules Maybe they will through sponsorship loopholes? We just don’t know. Cotterill’s mad spending didn’t break FFP but Roland isn’t the type to want to fund. The new owners just might? If Hurst is given the Cotterill budget, willingly, he’ll have more chance of bringing a degree of success? Arguably SC massively wasted the opportunity he was ‘given’. You mean the guy who has put millions of his own cash in recently as interest free loans ? no wonder he is going to stop doing that in future and I don't blame him
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Post by shrewswolf on May 8, 2024 10:33:37 GMT 1
Maybe they will through sponsorship loopholes? We just don’t know. Cotterill’s mad spending didn’t break FFP but Roland isn’t the type to want to fund. The new owners just might? If Hurst is given the Cotterill budget, willingly, he’ll have more chance of bringing a degree of success? Arguably SC massively wasted the opportunity he was ‘given’. You mean the guy who has put millions of his own cash in recently as interest free loans ? no wonder he is going to stop doing in future Yes that exact guy. It’s why he’s selling now. He doesn’t want to cover the losses with his own money so he’s getting rid which is completely fair enough. However most of the EFL have chairman willingly losing money and covering losses. The whole thing is ridiculous but Roland’s way sadly isn’t going to be sustainable (ironically) as these clubs continue to survive and more & more accept outside investment.
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2024 10:38:20 GMT 1
You mean the guy who has put millions of his own cash in recently as interest free loans ? no wonder he is going to stop doing in future Yes that exact guy. It’s why he’s selling now. He doesn’t want to cover the losses with his own money so he’s getting rid which is completely fair enough. However most of the EFL have chairman willingly losing money and covering losses. The whole thing is ridiculous but Roland’s way sadly isn’t going to be sustainable (ironically) as these clubs continue to survive and more & more accept outside investment. most efl chairman willingly lose money ? Where did you get that info ?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 8, 2024 10:38:31 GMT 1
For as long as the current structure remains in place with Wycherley at the helm steering the ship on his own, the best we can ever hope for is an unspectacular lower mid-table finish. New ownership, even if not unlimited budgets allows us to at least get excited about the possibilities.
And away from the money side of things, a change at the top would be most welcomed in terms of vision, ways of working, communication, fan engagement etc, all the stuff that’s gone stale.
Of course there’s risks and there’s an element of trust, but it’s a risk that I, and increasingly many Town fans, are keen to see unfold.
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Post by shrewswolf on May 8, 2024 10:47:03 GMT 1
Yes that exact guy. It’s why he’s selling now. He doesn’t want to cover the losses with his own money so he’s getting rid which is completely fair enough. However most of the EFL have chairman willingly losing money and covering losses. The whole thing is ridiculous but Roland’s way sadly isn’t going to be sustainable (ironically) as these clubs continue to survive and more & more accept outside investment. most efl chairman willingly lose money ? Where did you get that info ? Most of the division chucked large amounts of money at it again. Derby, Bolton, Oxford, Lincoln, Bristol Rovers etc. Their levels of spending so significant they knew and clearly planned to lose money. I haven’t spoken to the chairmen of these or any clubs but that is just how I see it/my opinion.
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Post by armchairfan on May 8, 2024 11:08:55 GMT 1
If it is indeed the case that Mr Wycherley does intend to relinquish ownership and control, doesn't this suggest that he himself agrees the need for change? I support that view: I have used the word "inertia" in this context on other similar threads
Of course noone can be certain that the outcome of any decision will be favourable, but again, as I have said before, if fear of the unknown - and unknowable - is allowed to dominate the thought process of decision-making, nobody would ever make a decision about ANYTHING, hence the inertia and sterility which we have now.
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