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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2024 7:08:03 GMT 1
It’s what I predicted The bleak prospect of the lunatics taking over the asylum. The icing on the cake being Corbyn winning I warned everyone It’s going to be ’ bad. Real bad What an absolutely fantastic night for the silent majority. Reform 🍺. We’ve smashed it. We’ve come second in most results Give yourselves all a big pay on the back 🍹 Smashed it? The Greens have as many MPs as your bunch of lunatics. In England your silent majority managed 15% of the vote. Farage has been on every media outlet for the last 15 years, far more than any other leader of party with until now zero elected MPs. So 15% and every media outlet going, explain to me silent and majority. I'll wait.
My only real disappointment this morning is the lack of tactical voting in South Shropshire and the Wrekin. The Tories held onto those seats when a concerted effort for tactical voting would have seen them both lost.
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Post by rob62 on Jul 5, 2024 13:32:33 GMT 1
Agree despite the hype Reform under performed with just 4 MPs.
I find it frustrating that the electorate didn't embrace tactical voting more fully in The Wrekin and South Shropshire to defeat the Tories.
Next battle will be Shropshire Council next May.
My prediction is that the Tories will be reduced to a handful of seats and that the Lib Dems will take control boosted by a stunning result in North Shropshire and a strong performance in South Shropshire
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 8, 2024 7:11:21 GMT 1
...and Germany for a yardstick. Because it’s coming here. Its very much a wait and see. All eyes to France too of course. So still very much a wait and see. So Macron's gamble has paid off, sort of. So mission accomplished in denying the National Rally a majority but whilst they will be disappointed in coming third, once again its support and representation has increased. However, with the second round tactical voting not only has Macron's presidency given rise to the National Rally, he's now also given a huge leg up to the far-left New Popular Front (an alliance that includes socialist, communists, Marxists, Trotskyites, etc.) whose largest party, France Unbowed, is led by Jean-Luc Mélenchon (far left, anti-Semite, the usual stuff; think Corbyn). Marcon called these elections in part because he wanted to see clarity, he's got nothing of the sort now. I gather he will now try and chip away at the more "moderate" NPF parties in the hope of bringing them into some sort of collation but of course Mélenchon is warning against that. And why wouldn't he considering the NPF are now the largest grouping. So again, all very much a wait and see. But this is one to keep an eye on, it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. And just to add, I know "first past the post" has its faults and its critics (and well founded too and more so after the recent UK election) but my understanding is that it does help to avoid situations like that which France now finds itself. So no method is going to be perfect, each will have its good and bad points. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 7:32:02 GMT 1
Its very much a wait and see. All eyes to France too of course. So still very much a wait and see. So Macron's gamble has paid off, sort of. So mission accomplished in denying the National Rally a majority but whilst they will be disappointed in coming third, once again its support and representation has increased. However, with the second round tactical voting not only has Macron's presidency given rise to the National Rally, he's now also given a huge leg up to the far-left New Popular Front (an alliance that includes socialist, communists, Marxists, Trotskyites, etc.) whose largest party, France Unbowed, is led by Jean-Luc Mélenchon (far left, anti-Semite, the usual stuff; think Corbyn). Marcon called these elections in part because he wanted to see clarity, he's got nothing of the sort now. I gather he will now try and chip away at the more "moderate" NPF parties in the hope of bringing them into some sort of collation but of course Mélenchon is warning against that. And why wouldn't he considering the NPF are now the largest grouping. So again, all very much a wait and see. But this is one to keep an eye on, it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. And just to add, I know "first past the post" has its faults and its critics (and well founded too and more so after the recent UK election) but my understanding is that it does help to avoid situations like that which France now finds itself. So no method is going to be perfect, each will have its good and bad points. You really need to stop getting your news from the right wing media. Do some bloody research man. Also just FYI anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism no matter what the IHRA say. In fact the IHRA definition has zero legal grounding and is described by the European Commission as non-legally binding. It's nothing more than an opinion piece, similar to the ones you read in your right wing newspapers (sic).
To be honest even I would be slightly wary of Mélenchon, but I would rather vote for him than for the RN, who were known as the National Front up until a few years ago. Many of us on here remember the NF in this country during the '70s and early '80s getting their asses handed to them. Maybe France should have done the same. Our NF is still going and among other policies are: support of holocaust denial, white supremacy, racial separation, denial of feminist and LGBT+ rights and for settled non-white Britons to be stripped of their citizenship and deported. Different in so many ways from their French counterparts, but also so similar.
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Aug 1, 2024 0:11:11 GMT 1
There we are….
The country is in chaos. Less than a month after the general election.
I did warn you we were all in for a fooooookin’ rough ride
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2024 6:48:46 GMT 1
There we are…. The country is in chaos. Less than a month after the general election. I did warn you we were all in for a fooooookin’ rough ride Hang on. You're trying to pin the blame for a bunch of EDL/BNP knuckle draggers terrorising Southport residents on Labour winning the election? Deluded doesn't even come close.
Just FYI the guy who committed the horrific attack on children wasn't even a Muslim as far as anyone knows, but your lot decided to attack the local mosque anwyay, because the guy wasn't white. I think that says a lot about you and the rest of the Tommy Ten Names fanboys. Some of the coppers your lot hospitalised the other night were the same ones that had been involved in the original incident, but you don't care about that or the fact that the mother of one of the girls that died posted on social media that she wanted those attacking the police and the mosque to stop.
You lot only care about point scoring and spreading hatred, but the people of Southport came out on on Tuesday morning to begin the clean up, repair the damaged walls and broken windows and show the support of the whole of the local community, but you keep coming on here spouting your hate and getting shown up for the nasty, bitter little racist that you are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2024 13:36:45 GMT 1
There we are…. The country is in chaos. Less than a month after the general election. I did warn you we were all in for a fooooookin’ rough ride Bit of advice (no doubt it will fall on death ears)... Engage brain before opening mouth... |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2024 16:26:10 GMT 1
When Noto next goes on holiday do we really have to to let him back in again?
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Aug 2, 2024 20:23:56 GMT 1
Well done Mr Starmer for poking the wasps nest yesterday.
You’ve been in office less than a month and there’s chaos on the streets.
Sunderland now…..
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 2, 2024 22:57:42 GMT 1
Well done Mr Starmer for poking the wasps nest yesterday. You’ve been in office less than a month and there’s chaos on the streets. Sunderland now….. I hope you dont condone what is going on. Not sure that is the word you were after. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 2, 2024 23:17:49 GMT 1
I hope you dont condone what is going on. Not sure that is the word you were after. Nice editing there.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 14:59:07 GMT 1
Well done Mr Starmer for poking the wasps nest yesterday. You’ve been in office less than a month and there’s chaos on the streets. Sunderland now….. Funnily enough Starmer is trying to cool things down, while your heroes are encouraging the rioters from the sidelines. Funniest video of the year from Southport the other night. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 4, 2024 8:41:59 GMT 1
Well done Mr Starmer for poking the wasps nest yesterday. You’ve been in office less than a month and there’s chaos on the streets. Sunderland now….. Funnily enough Starmer is trying to cool things down, while your heroes are encouraging the rioters from the sidelines. Funniest video of the year from Southport the other night. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy You can’t genuinely think Starmer’s statement was intended to calm things down? If it was, it just illustrates how out of touch and clueless he is - I can’t remember a more divisive statement from a Prime Minister, it was appalling I should add I don’t condone violent rioting from anybody, but I fully understand why people have had enough, and I would absolutely support peaceful protests against uncontrolled illegal immigration as well as uncontrolled legal migration - enough is enough, and seeing a “Labour party” remove winter fuel allowance from almost everybody but continue to pay billions on illegal immigrants is utterly disgusting |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 4, 2024 9:25:44 GMT 1
You can’t genuinely think Starmer’s statement was intended to calm things down? If it was, it just illustrates how out of touch and clueless he is - I can’t remember a more divisive statement from a Prime Minister, it was appalling I should add I don’t condone violent rioting from anybody, but I fully understand why people have had enough, and I would absolutely support peaceful protests against uncontrolled illegal immigration as well as uncontrolled legal migration - enough is enough, and seeing a “Labour party” remove winter fuel allowance from almost everybody but continue to pay billions on illegal immigrants is utterly disgusting "Two Tier Keir" seems very apt, that'll stick. I will never condone the violence we are seeing and I hate to see the police come under attack. I hope that things calm down and calm down quickly (and those responsible charged) but I agree, I do not think Starmer is helping. As Labour seem to be making the same mistake they did with the grooming gangs when they look to ignore or downplay the actions of certain demographics because they paralysed by identity politics. There have been some truly awful incidents in the UK of late, there have also been protests and violence elsewhere but its only when the white working class takes to the streets do we see press conferences, talk of taking action, etc. I think plenty can see the double standards (more so when people are now sharing comments from Starmer regarding past protests and violence seen in the UK and USA). I think people are getting pretty tired of it. As to those who are protesting, I do understand peoples anger and frustration but targeting a mosque in Southport for example, when there was absolutely no indication the attacker is a muslim is completely unacceptable, at no time is that justified. That is completely counterproductive and clearly bad actors involved. That some are unable to protest peacefully speaks volumes. But then that can also be said of the other protests and violence the UK has seen in the past and of late. So perhaps they have finally taken a leaf from others and hope that such protests will at some point see politicians react with talk of reaching out and talking to the community and community leaders to discuss their anger and concerns (as they do with others). |
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Post by salop27 on Aug 4, 2024 9:34:04 GMT 1
Quite a handy distraction these disturbances for the government.
My memory isn't great but I don't recall scrapping winter fuel payments,for most, as part of their manifesto. Equally we can all look forward to finding out how much more tax we'll be paying soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2024 10:25:11 GMT 1
Funnily enough Starmer is trying to cool things down, while your heroes are encouraging the rioters from the sidelines. Funniest video of the year from Southport the other night. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy You can’t genuinely think Starmer’s statement was intended to calm things down? If it was, it just illustrates how out of touch and clueless he is - I can’t remember a more divisive statement from a Prime Minister, it was appalling I should add I don’t condone violent rioting from anybody, but I fully understand why people have had enough, and I would absolutely support peaceful protests against uncontrolled illegal immigration as well as uncontrolled legal migration - enough is enough, and seeing a “Labour party” remove winter fuel allowance from almost everybody but continue to pay billions on illegal immigrants is utterly disgusting FWIW I agree with you re: the winter fuel allowance. It should have been a more measured approach, perhaps lowering the energy price cap for pensioners instead. I can however see some of the reasoning, for example two pensioners with civil service pensions living in flat in London getting £300 each every year while a widow with a reduced state pension just gets one payment. Even British pensioners living abroad get the payment, which is ridiculous.
The gurning Poundland Moselely and his followers stoking up anti-immigrant feelings are the guilty parties in this, just as much as the knuckle dragging thugs doing the dirty work.
How many millions were wasted on the failed Rwanda scheme, the Bibby Stockholm or the hundreds of hotels up and down the country by the previous government? Labour have been in for a little over 4 weeks and you're pointing the finger at them. It would be laughable if it wasn't so bloody stupid.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 4, 2024 10:26:40 GMT 1
Quite a handy distraction these disturbances for the government. My memory isn't great but I don't recall scrapping winter fuel payments,for most, as part of their manifesto. Equally we can all look forward to finding out how much more tax we'll be paying soon. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss... |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 4, 2024 10:38:09 GMT 1
You can’t genuinely think Starmer’s statement was intended to calm things down? If it was, it just illustrates how out of touch and clueless he is - I can’t remember a more divisive statement from a Prime Minister, it was appalling I should add I don’t condone violent rioting from anybody, but I fully understand why people have had enough, and I would absolutely support peaceful protests against uncontrolled illegal immigration as well as uncontrolled legal migration - enough is enough, and seeing a “Labour party” remove winter fuel allowance from almost everybody but continue to pay billions on illegal immigrants is utterly disgusting "Two Tier Keir" seems very apt, that'll stick. I will never condone the violence we are seeing and I hate to see the police come under attack. I hope that things calm down and calm down quickly (and those responsible charged) but I agree, I do not think Starmer is helping. As Labour seem to be making the same mistake they did with the grooming gangs when they look to ignore or downplay the actions of certain demographics because they paralysed by identity politics. There have been some truly awful incidents in the UK of late, there have also been protests and violence elsewhere but its only when the white working class takes to the streets do we see press conferences, talk of taking action, etc. I think plenty can see the double standards (more so when people are now sharing comments from Starmer regarding past protests and violence seen in the UK and USA). I think people are getting pretty tired of it. As to those who are protesting, I do understand peoples anger and frustration but targeting a mosque in Southport for example, when there was absolutely no indication the attacker is a muslim is completely unacceptable, at no time is that justified. That is completely counterproductive and clearly bad actors involved. That some are unable to protest peacefully speaks volumes. But then that can also be said of the other protests and violence the UK has seen in the past and of late. So perhaps they have finally taken a leaf from others and hope that such protests will at some point see politicians react with talk of reaching out and talking to the community and community leaders to discuss their anger and concerns (as they do with others). Yes good post and totally agree It’s been a really tough and bad first month for this new government with many horrific events on our streets |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 4, 2024 10:39:39 GMT 1
You can’t genuinely think Starmer’s statement was intended to calm things down? If it was, it just illustrates how out of touch and clueless he is - I can’t remember a more divisive statement from a Prime Minister, it was appalling I should add I don’t condone violent rioting from anybody, but I fully understand why people have had enough, and I would absolutely support peaceful protests against uncontrolled illegal immigration as well as uncontrolled legal migration - enough is enough, and seeing a “Labour party” remove winter fuel allowance from almost everybody but continue to pay billions on illegal immigrants is utterly disgusting FWIW I agree with you re: the winter fuel allowance. It should have been a more measured approach, perhaps lowering the energy price cap for pensioners instead. I can however see some of the reasoning, for example two pensioners with civil service pensions living in flat in London getting £300 each every year while a widow with a reduced state pension just gets one payment. Even British pensioners living abroad get the payment, which is ridiculous.
The gurning Poundland Moselely and his followers stoking up anti-immigrant feelings are the guilty parties in this, just as much as the knuckle dragging thugs doing the dirty work.
How many millions were wasted on the failed Rwanda scheme, the Bibby Stockholm or the hundreds of hotels up and down the country by the previous government? Labour have been in for a little over 4 weeks and you're pointing the finger at them. It would be laughable if it wasn't so bloody stupid.
No, your final point is wrong, i won’t be forgiving or forgetting what a mess the Tories made on immigration and how they betrayed tens of millions of their voters The stoking up was done by Starmer, effectively labelling millions of hard working, law abiding, honest Brits as “far right football hooligan thugs”. All because we have had enough of undocumented illegal immigrants invading our southern border and costing the tax payer billions of £ a year when we are skint A terrible misjudged statement by the Prime Minister |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2024 13:46:32 GMT 1
FWIW I agree with you re: the winter fuel allowance. It should have been a more measured approach, perhaps lowering the energy price cap for pensioners instead. I can however see some of the reasoning, for example two pensioners with civil service pensions living in flat in London getting £300 each every year while a widow with a reduced state pension just gets one payment. Even British pensioners living abroad get the payment, which is ridiculous.
The gurning Poundland Moselely and his followers stoking up anti-immigrant feelings are the guilty parties in this, just as much as the knuckle dragging thugs doing the dirty work.
How many millions were wasted on the failed Rwanda scheme, the Bibby Stockholm or the hundreds of hotels up and down the country by the previous government? Labour have been in for a little over 4 weeks and you're pointing the finger at them. It would be laughable if it wasn't so bloody stupid.
No, your final point is wrong, i won’t be forgiving or forgetting what a mess the Tories made on immigration and how they betrayed tens of millions of their voters The stoking up was done by Starmer, effectively labelling millions of hard working, law abiding, honest Brits as “far right football hooligan thugs”. All because we have had enough of undocumented illegal immigrants invading our southern border and costing the tax payer billions of £ a year when we are skint A terrible misjudged statement by the Prime Minister He labeled the racist thugs as racist thugs. I'm a hard working, law abiding, honest Brit and I and many millions like me want nothing to do with these racist thugs. FYI we don't have a southern border, we're not effin' Texas. Get your head out Trumps 'arris, there's not enough room with Farages already in there. |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 4, 2024 14:24:48 GMT 1
No, your final point is wrong, i won’t be forgiving or forgetting what a mess the Tories made on immigration and how they betrayed tens of millions of their voters The stoking up was done by Starmer, effectively labelling millions of hard working, law abiding, honest Brits as “far right football hooligan thugs”. All because we have had enough of undocumented illegal immigrants invading our southern border and costing the tax payer billions of £ a year when we are skint A terrible misjudged statement by the Prime Minister He labeled the racist thugs as racist thugs. I'm a hard working, law abiding, honest Brit and I and many millions like me want nothing to do with these racist thugs. FYI we don't have a southern border, we're not effin' Texas. Get your head out Trumps 'arris, there's not enough room with Farages already in there. Totally missing the point, unsurprisingly as usual |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 4, 2024 15:52:45 GMT 1
Julia is spot on here as usual
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 4, 2024 19:08:42 GMT 1
Well looking to footage from today its certainly not just the white working class that are now out on the streets causing issues, attacking the police, attacking others. So lets see how politicians and the UK media react to that. |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 4, 2024 19:24:23 GMT 1
Well looking to footage from today its certainly not just the white working class that are now out on the streets causing issues, attacking the police, attacking others. So lets see how politicians and the UK media react to that. Here’s your answer, unsurprisingly Silence from the spineless Starmer too |
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Post by salop18 on Aug 4, 2024 21:31:43 GMT 1
First of all the violence and destruction a minority are causing is wrong and I condemn it.
Starmer’s speech has fuelled these riots ten fold over the weekend. Labelling them all as ‘far right’, ‘football hooligans’, and ‘EDL’ members (EDL hasn’t existed in a decade) when the majority are just normal working class people who are sick to ****ing death with two tier corruption and mass illegal immigration coming into our country.
Where was Starmer’s speech on the Leeds riots? What about Whitechapel? What about mentioning that poor soldier who got stabbed in Gillingham? Or what about explaining why two Muslim men have been let off the hook after breaking a female officers nose in Manchester airport as MDL (Muslim Defence League) threatened to burn Rochdale police station to the ground if they were convicted? It’s an utter liberty. Two tier Kier.
The majority of posters on B&A are fortunate to live in a town like Shrewsbury where we don’t suffer much from these problems, but say we lived in towns/cities such as Blackburn, Sunderland, Rotherham, Hull, etc then I’m sure your opinions would be different, especially if you have wife’s/girlfriend’s or even daughters walking these streets where it’s not safe one bit these days in these towns and cities.
It’s going to get a lot, lot worse yet.
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First of all the violence and destruction a minority are causing is wrong and I condemn it. Starmer’s speech has fuelled these riots ten fold over the weekend. Labelling them all as ‘far right’, ‘football hooligans’, and ‘EDL’ members (EDL hasn’t existed in a decade) when the majority are just normal working class people who are sick to ****ing death with two tier corruption and mass illegal immigration coming into our country. Where was Starmer’s speech on the Leeds riots? What about Whitechapel? What about mentioning that poor soldier who got stabbed in Gillingham? Or what about explaining why two Muslim men have been let off the hook after breaking a female officers nose in Manchester airport as MDL (Muslim Defence League) threatened to burn Rochdale police station to the ground if they were convicted? It’s an utter liberty. Two tier Kier. The majority of posters on B&A are fortunate to live in a town like Shrewsbury where we don’t suffer much from these problems, but say we lived in towns/cities such as Blackburn, Sunderland, Rotherham, Hull, etc then I’m sure your opinions would be different, especially if you have wife’s/girlfriend’s or even daughters walking these streets where it’s not safe one bit these days in these towns and cities. It’s going to get a lot, lot worse yet. The murderer of the little girls in Southport was a British born Christian, but the mob attacked the local mosque. Why? Why not attack the churches instead?
The mosque that was attacked in Hartlepool raised £25,000 for the Royal British Legion last year. What was the basis for the attack on it?
In Liverpool the mob burned down a local library and community centre. FYI the burning of books has never been done by the good guys. What had that library done to deserve that? What did the local community do?
In Rotherham the mob attempted to burn down the local Holiday Inn Express that was housing asylum seekers. What had those people done to deserve having to make the choice between burning to death or fleeing into the arms of the very people that set the fire in the first place.
The morons are even looting their local Greggs, Lush and effin' Shoezone for crying out loud. Really?
You're right about little old Shrewsbury not having many of the issues that effect towns and cities like Hull or Rotherham, but it's not only white women that are not safe in these places. Many women wearing the hijabs are the victims of assaults in more racially diverse areas.
So far no-one has been killed in these riots, but it's only a matter of time.
To start attacking Starmer and Labour for this is disingenuous at best, seeing as they haven't even completed their fifth week in government. The Tories for 14 years deliberately underfunded and understaffed the departments that deal with immigration and asylum leading to the huge backlog in claims that we now have. Labour are trying to put out so many fires that the previous government left them that they don't which way to turn first. They do need to sort themselves out sharpish, but come on man, give them a chance.
I know that every incoming government tries to push the blame for everything that's wrong on the previous incumbents, but surely even you can see that this isn't Starmers fault. Yes he could and perhaps should have been more circumspect in his choice of language and not all of the thugs are football hooligans, far right or former EDL members, but there is a core that are and they are the ones stirring things up. Many of the people involved are bored teenagers or people looking to let off a bit of steam, but the instigators have given them someone or something to focus on. As I said in a previous post it is people like Farage, Tice, Ten Names, Hopkins, Tate etc that are handing the foot soldiers a lighted match and pointing to the blue touch paper and then walking away saying 'oh that wasn't what we meant at all'
Just watched a tiktok with a known football hooligan calling for the fans of all football clubs across the country to put their rivalries to the side and come together. Sounds like a pretty EDL like move to me. while the EDL might not exist in any tangible form these days, but the spirit of the EDL is alive and kicking. Funny how the de facto leader who ran off to Spain to avoid arrest is now crying because the Daily Mail of all people put the address of his hotel out there for anyone to see. ''It's not fair, I only wanted to spend a nice holiday with my kids''. Maybe skipping the country to avoid arrest is considered a family holiday these days. Who knows?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 5, 2024 10:57:27 GMT 1
Well looking to footage from today its certainly not just the white working class that are now out on the streets causing issues, attacking the police, attacking others. So lets see how politicians and the UK media react to that. Here’s your answer, unsurprisingly Hope springs eternal. I wonder if Norton will receive a call from his employer... But this reporting is backed up by others on social media who attended and state that the protest in Bolton was peaceful until, as reported, there was "250 to 300 members of the Asian community that came charging up one of the side streets here". Yet, as far as I am aware, Two Tier Kier is living up to his moniker as he has yet to call this out (which no doubt adds to peoples frustration and resentment, which in turn is, in part, fueling these protests). What a mess.  |
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Aug 5, 2024 15:02:50 GMT 1
Think this will backfire for the right if I'm honest - I know dyed in the wool Tories who were sympathetic towards Reform before but now see them in a very bad light due to these riots.
It's patently obvious that immigration reform is needed - but anyone who's participating in these riots are idiots and deserve to be hit with the full force of the law.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 5, 2024 15:17:26 GMT 1
Here’s your answer, unsurprisingly Hope springs eternal. I wonder if Norton will receive a call from his employer... But this reporting is backed up by others on social media who attended and state that the protest in Bolton was peaceful until, as reported, there was "250 to 300 members of the Asian community that came charging up one of the side streets here". Yet, as far as I am aware, Two Tier Kier is living up to his moniker as he has yet to call this out (which no doubt adds to peoples frustration and resentment, which in turn is, in part, fueling these protests). What a mess. this is the big risk with the aggravation started by the far right I’m not surprised that other factions will seek to protect their communities and get hijack by their extremists groups. I’m sure if the riots had been started by them and targeted Churches and white communities there’d be the same reaction. This all needs sorting quickly with the antagonists on Twitter and the like bought under control on both sides. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 5, 2024 15:32:13 GMT 1
Hope springs eternal. I wonder if Norton will receive a call from his employer... But this reporting is backed up by others on social media who attended and state that the protest in Bolton was peaceful until, as reported, there was "250 to 300 members of the Asian community that came charging up one of the side streets here". Yet, as far as I am aware, Two Tier Kier is living up to his moniker as he has yet to call this out (which no doubt adds to peoples frustration and resentment, which in turn is, in part, fueling these protests). What a mess. this is the big risk with the aggravation started by the far right I’m not surprised that other factions will seek to protect their communities and get hijack by their extremists groups. I’m sure if the riots had been started by them and targeted Churches and white communities there’d be the same reaction. This all needs sorting quickly with the antagonists on Twitter and the like bought under control on both sides. True but the point is you and I are calling out both sides, Starmer and Labour are not. And I do not think that is helping the situation at all. Whether true or not but their were claims that things escalated in Southport because someone approached the protest armed with a knife, for example. That wasn't seen as protecting their own community but seeking to attack an other. All violence needs to be called out. Just hope things will peter out soon and those involved spent. Then what will be interesting is how the government react to what we have seen over the last few days. Will they reach out to people in order to understand their concerns and anger or will it all be brushed under the carpet again. As if its the latter then no doubt this will be repeated again in time and perhaps in short time too. This article is not in response to your own comment in particular but I thought worth a read anyhow (and saves me posting separately)... How Britain ignored its ethnic conflict This week’s riots won’t be the last |
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