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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 17, 2024 13:46:54 GMT 1
Hypocritical as usual , you start the fire and then blame others as it burns You were the one who introduced the boob job (.)(.) to the thread Fair play, he did didn't he.
Good luck Steve, FGR have a mountain to climb, fear it's going tits up for them. Can't afford any more boobs in their remaining fixtures.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 17, 2024 13:49:56 GMT 1
Fair play, he did didn't he.
Good luck Steve, FGR have a mountain to climb, fear it's going tits up for them. Can't afford any more boobs in their remaining fixtures.
Hopefully it's going tits up for them. Sad for Steve, but couldnt give a toss about the club. Why do some dislike FGR? What did they ever do to upset? |
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Post by mattmw on Feb 17, 2024 14:04:28 GMT 1
Are the club pursuing this alleged fraud down the legal routes? It surely can be proved that things were being disguised as something else? If not, why not? Companies don't always have to pursue an internal fraud if its of a low level (ie a small percentage of their turnover), and might decide to carry out an internal investigation and implement new finance measures to stop future fraud. However where larger sums of money are involved its likely the Police would be notified in order to investigate the issue, and (if in place) provide a mechanism for insurances the company has to be claimed against the fraud. The Companies Act also requires Companies that have been subject to fraud to show its detail in both the internal and external audit, and annual accounts, along with a narrative on how the fraud has impacted on the Companies value. As obviously if a significant sum of money has gone missing from a company that can't be evidenced, it impacts on the value of a company and also the amount of tax it might have to pay either directly of indirectly through VAT. We obvioulsy don't know the details of whats occurred at the club, but the losses in the last 2 seasons seem significant from the club statements, and will need adressing before external auditors would sign off the accounts. So as has been said a lot the next set of club accounts will be an interesting read and should put more detail against the losses made in the last 2 seasons |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 17, 2024 14:36:44 GMT 1
Hopefully it's going tits up for them. Sad for Steve, but couldnt give a toss about the club. Why do some dislike FGR? What did they ever do to upset? Jumped up little non league club overachieving imo. They are not on their own though. FGR and Sutton would be ideal relegation clubs for me this season. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 17, 2024 14:40:16 GMT 1
Why do some dislike FGR? What did they ever do to upset? Jumped up little non league club overachieving imo. They are not on their own though. Wrexham?  |
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 17, 2024 16:02:08 GMT 1
Why do some dislike FGR? What did they ever do to upset? Jumped up little non league club overachieving imo. They are not on their own though. FGR and Sutton would be ideal relegation clubs for me this season. Achievement in professional sport is a mix of money and merit, clubs are where they deserve to be based on how well they manage their assets. I’m looking forward to ‘jumped up little non league’ Altrincham in League 2 next season. |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2024 18:48:47 GMT 1
I thought this thread might’ve been used to track the impact that Steve’s making at Forest Green, rather than the same tedious claims and counter claims. The thread has gone off on a tangent and is going over old ground, again. If it goes off topic then posts will be moved to the off topic thread. That was an agreed approach. It's a thread about Steve Cotterill and people are discussing Steve Cotterill. How is that a tangent? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 18:55:36 GMT 1
The thread has gone off on a tangent and is going over old ground, again. If it goes off topic then posts will be moved to the off topic thread. That was an agreed approach. It's a thread about Steve Cotterill and people are discussing Steve Cotterill. How is that a tangent? As per the thread above, "I thought this thread might’ve been used to track the impact that Steve’s making at Forest Green, rather than the same tedious claims and counter claims"...
The thread title is "Cotterill to FGR" after all. |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2024 19:09:45 GMT 1
I'd suggest the way he left and the way fans think about him after what they'd been told is inextricably linked to how they then follow his future progress.
Hurst was the snake.
Cotterill is the fraud who spent all the money.
The responses to either in the future are heavily weighted to the claims made about them.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 17, 2024 19:16:09 GMT 1
They are both untrustworthy even if for different reasons.
Like it or lump the one fact about Hurst is that he went without even a goodbye and thanks to us the fans. His manner of how he did or didn’t leave the club means nothing to me.
The one fact about SC is that he left the club in a bad financial state. Again the whys and wherefores don’t bother me.
As far as I am concerned they both lack integrity.
This may be off topic but I don’t care!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 19:26:25 GMT 1
I'd suggest the way he left and the way fans think about him after what they'd been told is inextricably linked to how they then follow his future progress. Hurst was the snake. Cotterill is the fraud who spent all the money. The responses to either in the future are heavily weighted to the claims made about them. Does that make Matt Taylor the good guy then? |
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Post by blueboy48 on Feb 18, 2024 0:11:12 GMT 1
Mattw suggests the next set of accounts will reveal the extent and reasons for the losses (rumoured £1m) during the reign of SC and BC.
The 2018 accounts show a profit of £2.5m when Hurst left for Ipswich and took two players with him. Yet BC and Mrs BC helped trashed his reputation. Why, why would you do that?
I see no comparison between the two managers but I note BC was involved in both controversies.
Let's just out this to bed and support Hurst to keep us in League 1.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 18, 2024 1:22:41 GMT 1
I'd suggest the way he left and the way fans think about him after what they'd been told is inextricably linked to how they then follow his future progress. Hurst was the snake. Cotterill is the fraud who spent all the money. The responses to either in the future are heavily weighted to the claims made about them. Does that make Matt Taylor the good guy then? Matt Taylor is a nice chap, a decent coach, and hopelessly ill equipped to make a team of league of Ireland players league one ready. He couldn't cut it at League two level with Walsall so only a complete moron would risk him at League one level. Ask anyone if they could do their job with Mickey Mouse as their oversight and they would say "no"! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2024 1:36:23 GMT 1
Does that make Matt Taylor the good guy then? Matt Taylor is a nice chap, a decent coach, and hopelessly ill equipped to make a team of league of Ireland players league one ready. He couldn't cut it at League two level with Walsall so only a complete moron would risk him at League one level. Ask anyone if they could do their job with Mickey Mouse as their oversight and they would say "no"! So is Cotterill the real winner because he's the only one that hasn't had to work for Micky Mouse? |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 18, 2024 1:56:31 GMT 1
Matt Taylor is a nice chap, a decent coach, and hopelessly ill equipped to make a team of league of Ireland players league one ready. He couldn't cut it at League two level with Walsall so only a complete moron would risk him at League one level. Ask anyone if they could do their job with Mickey Mouse as their oversight and they would say "no"! So is Cotterill the real winner because he's the only one that hasn't had to work for Micky Mouse?
No, he has left. So he is the bad guy.
Just like anyone who has ever left.
It is all their fault. Fans blame them. Obscufation and smokescreen.
Welcome to Salop.
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Post by Dale on Feb 18, 2024 8:42:20 GMT 1
A costly defeat for FGR at Crawley yesterday, they will need Colchester and Grimsby to keep losing and hope they can grab a quick couple of wins from somewhere just to catch up with them, I’m led to believe SC doesn’t have a relegation on his managerial CV, so in that respect it was certainly a brave move going there. I’m guessing Dale Vince will be the main man to blame ultimately if they go down with a string of poor and inexperienced managerial appointments prior to SC stepping in.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 18, 2024 10:44:09 GMT 1
is anyone else like me, doesnt really give a s**te about cotterill, totally forgets about FGR, logs onto blue and amber , scans the threads and then spots this thread lingering down the page, smile as you realise that means they must have lost  in all seriousness im sure that the very minute amount of those who big up 'Stevie'. only do so for banter, otherwise it would be like a Blackpool fan who still loves the Oystons, Bury fans who love Steve Dale, or football fans in general who miss Sepp Blatter  |
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 18, 2024 12:57:57 GMT 1
is anyone else like me, doesnt really give a s**te about cotterill, totally forgets about FGR, logs onto blue and amber , scans the threads and then spots this thread lingering down the page, smile as you realise that means they must have lost in all seriousness im sure that the very minute amount of those who big up 'Stevie'. only do so for banter, otherwise it would be like a Blackpool fan who still loves the Oystons, Bury fans who love Steve Dale, or football fans in general who miss Sepp Blatter The old boy gave us 12th. Less injuries, more luck and had a play off place been achieved, he'd have been a hero now despite any faults. |
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Post by Pilch on Feb 18, 2024 13:15:34 GMT 1
is anyone else like me, doesnt really give a s**te about cotterill, totally forgets about FGR, logs onto blue and amber , scans the threads and then spots this thread lingering down the page, smile as you realise that means they must have lost in all seriousness im sure that the very minute amount of those who big up 'Stevie'. only do so for banter, otherwise it would be like a Blackpool fan who still loves the Oystons, Bury fans who love Steve Dale, or football fans in general who miss Sepp Blatter The old boy gave us 12th. Less injuries, more luck and had a play off place been achieved, he'd have been a hero now despite any faults. no s**t more injuries, less luck and had he got relegated , he'd have been sacked for on and off the field events ;-) |
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 18, 2024 13:18:19 GMT 1
Cotts had a horrendous injury crisis to contend with as well, worst I've known in a long time.
12th was decent, but it was more the fact I felt we always had a game plan under him.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 18, 2024 13:19:15 GMT 1
Cotts had a horrendous injury crisis to contend with as well, worst I've known in a long time. 12th was decent, but it was more the fact I felt we always had a game plan under him. lol, you've tried that bait before, it catches nothing |
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 18, 2024 13:21:43 GMT 1
Cotts had a horrendous injury crisis to contend with as well, worst I've known in a long time. 12th was decent, but it was more the fact I felt we always had a game plan under him. Just the one game plan though He didn't have enough players to have a plan B. |
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 18, 2024 13:24:37 GMT 1
Cotts had a horrendous injury crisis to contend with as well, worst I've known in a long time. 12th was decent, but it was more the fact I felt we always had a game plan under him. Just the one game plan though He didn't have enough players to have a plan B. Derby away proved a plan B? He wasn't brilliant, but he knows the game inside out. |
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Post by Pilch on Feb 18, 2024 13:45:52 GMT 1
plan B
Score a 40 yard free kick
score a soft penalty
rely on a world class last minute save
cotterill the tactical genius ;-)
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 18, 2024 14:11:22 GMT 1
plan B Score a 40 yard free kick score a soft penalty rely on a world class last minute save cotterill the tactical genius ;-) It's a strategy, and a strategy based on us not being the richest, biggest, club in the division. But having Leahy to put away the penalty and Marosi for the world class save. |
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Post by Pilch on Feb 18, 2024 14:25:44 GMT 1
plan B Score a 40 yard free kick score a soft penalty rely on a world class last minute save cotterill the tactical genius ;-) It's a strategy, and a strategy based on us not being the richest, biggest, club in the division. But having Leahy to put away the penalty and Marosi for the world class save. we've played them 14 times in the league, they have only ever beaten us 3 times even Matty Taylor beat them ;-) |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 18, 2024 14:56:55 GMT 1
Cotts had a horrendous injury crisis to contend with as well, worst I've known in a long time. 12th was decent, but it was more the fact I felt we always had a game plan under him. Cotts used up all his luck on the injury front in his previous season. Guess he thought he could do it again the following season (last season) and that's when it backfired on him. |
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Post by servernaside on Feb 18, 2024 17:15:27 GMT 1
I think the moral in all this is that 'good guys' don't make successful managers.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 19, 2024 23:20:00 GMT 1
just watched the post game from saturday and lmao, we already have a rift in the making
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 23:40:27 GMT 1
Putting Steve Cotterill and Bust Up into Google is always a good search
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