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Post by Pilch on Feb 4, 2024 13:28:14 GMT 1
I always wonder whether I'm harsh on Perry but he seems like a luxury in Midfield from what I've seen of him. Nonsense statistics from Pilch. Framed to suit his anti-Perry agenda regrettably. Hinchy came on and played the Winchester role in front of the back four, and Winchester was moved out to RB. Of course Hinchy had a lot of touches playing as a 6, when compared to Perry who was playing in a more advanced role as one of the 8s. Hinchy also came on for the last 20 minutes when we were camped in the Cambridge half looking for a goal, so again, of course he’d have quite a few touches in those 20 minutes. And yes, I’d probably expect my holding midfield player to win a higher percentage of his duels than a technical midfielder like Perry. To be honest, it seemed like Hinchy’s second touch was a tackle on a few occasions, as his first touch wasn’t quite on the money. Hinchy did something we've not seen this season, he wanted the ball, made himself available 100% of the time he's our very own KDB ;-)
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Feb 4, 2024 13:59:06 GMT 1
I do agree don’t think Perry does enough over 90 mins and doesn’t contribute enough with G/A’s.
Gets around but he’s weak in the tackle, loses majority of his 50/50’s. Think he’s good squad player to have but not convinced as a nailed on starter
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Feb 4, 2024 14:04:53 GMT 1
I do agree don’t think Perry does enough over 90 mins and doesn’t contribute enough with G/A’s. Gets around but he’s weak in the tackle, loses majority of his 50/50’s. Think he’s good squad player to have but not convinced as a nailed on starter I think this is bang on tbh. He's not without talent and could develop into a good player still. But it's indicative of the mess we made of our recruitment in the summer that he's been one of the first names on the teamsheet rather than an option of the bench who starts when he's impressed.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 4, 2024 14:35:10 GMT 1
I do agree don’t think Perry does enough over 90 mins and doesn’t contribute enough with G/A’s. Gets around but he’s weak in the tackle, loses majority of his 50/50’s. Think he’s good squad player to have but not convinced as a nailed on starter I think this is bang on tbh. He's not without talent and could develop into a good player still. But it's indicative of the mess we made of our recruitment in the summer that he's been one of the first names on the teamsheet rather than an option of the bench who starts when he's impressed. I agree, I watched him in the friendly v coventry, he was a trialist who I thought was well out of his depth, when we signed him a few days later that was a massive red flag for me, I dismissed it at the time and presumed he was just making the numbers up blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/106056/salop-signing-welcome-taylor-perry
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Post by chirkshrew on Feb 4, 2024 14:40:59 GMT 1
Didn't exactly set the world alight at Cheltenham did he??.....did he score many there.....I doubt it🤷🤷🤷
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Post by akpaakpost on Feb 4, 2024 18:05:20 GMT 1
Can we change the subject on what does Perry actually do well, can hit a decent longshot (but he only hits it hard so doesn’t show great technique) and not a bad dribbler. But other than that I don’t know what he really offers. Spends most the time on the floor.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 4, 2024 18:24:46 GMT 1
I expect Hinchy will be in the starting XI very soon. Who for will be interesting.
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Post by vladimir on Feb 4, 2024 18:27:44 GMT 1
Fully expect perry to be out on loan by August. Also no shocks to see Hurst completely jettison Anderson and Kenneh.
Can't wait for the summer of upheaval to be honest and for Hurst to build his unit. Hoping we get the survival points amassed as quickly as possible so Hurst can test and disregard some of the absolute chaff that has been signed this season.
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Post by jamo on Feb 4, 2024 19:42:49 GMT 1
Very much enjoyed Hurst’s post match interview with Stu Dunn. Very open and honest and completely different to the previous 2 holders of the post.
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Post by chirkshrew on Feb 4, 2024 19:45:01 GMT 1
Yep...talks a lot of sense.....hope the hell he can sort the mess out!!!👍👍🤦
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Post by edgmond on Feb 4, 2024 20:30:12 GMT 1
I expect Hinchy will be in the starting XI very soon. Who for will be interesting. I like Hinchy - he sounds like a nickname!
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 4, 2024 20:44:15 GMT 1
Fully expect perry to be out on loan by August. Also no shocks to see Hurst completely jettison Anderson and Kenneh. Can't wait for the summer of upheaval to be honest and for Hurst to build his unit. Hoping we get the survival points amsassed as quickly as possible so Hurst can test and disregard some of the absolute chaff that has been signed this season. It feels a bit like the season after Hurst left where we signed a lot of players under Askey but most of them were shipped out very quickly (Kennedy, Loft, Angol, Holloway, etc.). When I look at the signings made this season, I don't expect many will be in our squad at the start of next season
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 4, 2024 21:18:44 GMT 1
I expect Hinchy will be in the starting XI very soon. Who for will be interesting. Brighton aren't sending their under 21s captain here to warm the bench whilst watching Kenneh & Perry run about like headless chickens.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 4, 2024 21:20:24 GMT 1
Fully expect perry to be out on loan by August. Also no shocks to see Hurst completely jettison Anderson and Kenneh. Can't wait for the summer of upheaval to be honest and for Hurst to build his unit. Hoping we get the survival points amsassed as quickly as possible so Hurst can test and disregard some of the absolute chaff that has been signed this season. It feels a bit like the season after Hurst left where we signed a lot of players under Askey but most of them were shipped out very quickly (Kennedy, Loft, Angol, Holloway, etc.). When I look at the signings made this season, I don't expect many will be in our squad at the start of next season I agree, it could be the biggest clear out for a long time, hopefully Udoh might sign again , he looked happy saturday but then again he has nothing to lose in holding onto his offer and seeing if he gets a better one, we will probably be in a position to give him a better offer than what he is currently on
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Feb 4, 2024 23:43:01 GMT 1
I expect Hinchy will be in the starting XI very soon. Who for will be interesting. I like Hinchy - he sounds like a nickname! Screw Blockbusters, screw Bob Holness and screw your Gold Run!
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Post by secretshrew on Feb 5, 2024 7:29:17 GMT 1
Can we change the subject on what does Perry actually do well, can hit a decent longshot (but he only hits it hard so doesn’t show great technique) and not a bad dribbler. But other than that I don’t know what he really offers. Spends most the time on the floor. I’m not his biggest fan but I think what he does offer is a very rare flash of something that can win us a game. Whether that’s a clinical pass, long shot or moment of trickery. Don’t ask me to name any as I can’t remember any but that’s my defence of him!!!
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Post by Pilch on Feb 5, 2024 8:51:12 GMT 1
Can we change the subject on what does Perry actually do well, can hit a decent longshot (but he only hits it hard so doesn’t show great technique) and not a bad dribbler. But other than that I don’t know what he really offers. Spends most the time on the floor. I’m not his biggest fan but I think what he does offer is a very rare flash of something that can win us a game. Whether that’s a clinical pass, long shot or moment of trickery. Don’t ask me to name any as I can’t remember any but that’s my defence of him!!! The long shot was away to Wycombe The rest hasn't happened yet 😧
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 5, 2024 12:02:20 GMT 1
You can certainly tell Hurst has been with us before now looking to that post-match interview, he seems very comfortable with Dunn. Just two games in and so it wasn't going to be a difficult interview anyhow but they do seem to have a bit of a rapport.
Never good to lose of course but I thought it was interesting to hear Hurst talking about learning something about his players once we went behind and in losing the game. I suppose with how the season has gone it might be understandable but hopefully he has the man management to sort things out. I guess a large part of things is knowing how to get the best out of players and the different personalities you come across in the changing room. Maybe he knows what he needs to do when it comes to one or two. Maybe it'll hold us in good stead going forward.
And he seems impressed with O'Brien. If he could get the best out of him then he could be making a significant contribution (both on and off the pitch). If we could get Udoh and O'Brien working together on all cylinders then who knows.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 5, 2024 12:20:50 GMT 1
I guess Hurst has a free hit in interviews for the time being, the players aren’t his and his presence must diminish the authority of MM.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 5, 2024 12:27:01 GMT 1
Can we change the subject on what does Perry actually do well, can hit a decent longshot (but he only hits it hard so doesn’t show great technique) and not a bad dribbler. But other than that I don’t know what he really offers. Spends most the time on the floor. I’m not his biggest fan but I think what he does offer is a very rare flash of something that can win us a game. Whether that’s a clinical pass, long shot or moment of trickery. Don’t ask me to name any as I can’t remember any but that’s my defence of him!!! It always seems wrong to single out players. If they want to do their best and Hurst & Co can get the best out of them they will be in the team, if it doesn't happen or they don't fit what he wants, Hurst will deal with it.
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 5, 2024 13:42:19 GMT 1
We just need to limp to the finishing line this season. The close season should then be interesting. I would like to see a repeat of the pre season when Hurst was last here and we had a number of friendly victories at the Meadow against Championship teams. It really got the supporters confidence up and when the season started we hit the ground running.
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Post by chirkshrew on Feb 5, 2024 13:44:55 GMT 1
By the looks of it......was it kennah and sobowale doing laps around the pitch Saturday before game......haven't seen that before....maybe they've got a few fitness issues,I don't know🤔🤔
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 5, 2024 14:43:42 GMT 1
I expect Hinchy will be in the starting XI very soon. Who for will be interesting. I expect Perry. Hinchy clearly went on to be the deepest central midfielder, looking to pick up the ball from the defence. In Winchesters role for the last 2 matches. But I think Hurst will keep Winchester in the team and either put him in Perry's position on the right, or make it more of a 4231 with Bayliss ahead of them rather than to the left. One thing Hinchy does need if he is playing that dynamic, fast paced role is players who are capable of joining him, in quick progressive one touch passing. Few too many there are still in the take a touch, look up and punt it long mindset.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 5, 2024 14:58:29 GMT 1
Fully expect perry to be out on loan by August. Also no shocks to see Hurst completely jettison Anderson and Kenneh. Can't wait for the summer of upheaval to be honest and for Hurst to build his unit. Hoping we get the survival points amsassed as quickly as possible so Hurst can test and disregard some of the absolute chaff that has been signed this season. It feels a bit like the season after Hurst left where we signed a lot of players under Askey but most of them were shipped out very quickly (Kennedy, Loft, Angol, Holloway, etc.). When I look at the signings made this season, I don't expect many will be in our squad at the start of next season Can't see that many of signings under Taylor hanging around. 5 of the starting XI on Saturday were, but two of them had been here before (Pierre & Winchester), 1 was out of position as we don't have a right back and 1 is likely to be dropped for the loan player. Oddly Benning is looking the best and most stable one! So I'd expect Hurst to want to bring in players he wanted. But looking at contracts and town have more for next season than I'd realised if I've counted right. 8 in total - Nurse, Feeney, Shipley, Winchester, Perry, Idowu, Mata and Bloxham. And potentially club retain trigger options for another 4 (Dunkley, Sraha, Sobowale and Bayliss). If town also want to renew players contracts, at the moment you'd imagine Marosi, Udoh, ?Benning, ?Pierre, there is surprisingly limited wriggle room left.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 5, 2024 15:30:50 GMT 1
I expect Hinchy will be in the starting XI very soon. Who for will be interesting. I expect Perry. Hinchy clearly went on to be the deepest central midfielder, looking to pick up the ball from the defence. In Winchesters role for the last 2 matches. But I think Hurst will keep Winchester in the team and either put him in Perry's position on the right, or make it more of a 4231 with Bayliss ahead of them rather than to the left. One thing Hinchy does need if he is playing that dynamic, fast paced role is players who are capable of joining him, in quick progressive one touch passing. Few too many there are still in the take a touch, look up and punt it long mindset. Yes good point on that second paragraph, seems to much hesitation at times in the team
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Post by chirkshrew on Feb 5, 2024 16:10:35 GMT 1
Drop bayliss and put someone else in his position....poor again, especially 2nd half....did nothing of note,and doesn't work hard enough🤷🤷
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Post by pughywasfree on Feb 5, 2024 16:12:30 GMT 1
I think this is bang on tbh. He's not without talent and could develop into a good player still. But it's indicative of the mess we made of our recruitment in the summer that he's been one of the first names on the teamsheet rather than an option of the bench who starts when he's impressed. I agree, I watched him in the friendly v coventry, he was a trialist who I thought was well out of his depth, when we signed him a few days later that was a massive red flag for me, I dismissed it at the time and presumed he was just making the numbers up blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/106056/salop-signing-welcome-taylor-perryI also remember many occasions where you was proved wrong after he had a decent game. It's very harsh to be critical of him when he has spent the majority of the season watch the ball being lumped over his head and told to chase everything. He's had 2 games under PH, first one he played very well and was unlucky not to score after a great run and then on Saturday he had an OK game when others didn't. I don't get why town fans always need a scapegoat.
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 5, 2024 16:25:35 GMT 1
Jack Price will be signing very soon but I suspect it will take sometime to get him match fit. Could turn out to be a great signing especially for next season after a full pre season with us.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 5, 2024 16:49:44 GMT 1
I also remember many occasions where you was proved wrong after he had a decent game. It's very harsh to be critical of him when he has spent the majority of the season watch the ball being lumped over his head and told to chase everything. He's had 2 games under PH, first one he played very well and was unlucky not to score after a great run and then on Saturday he had an OK game when others didn't. I don't get why town fans always need a scapegoat. whenever I've moaned at him it was a moan towards the manager for not recognising we had better in the squad ( thats just my opinion, take it or leave it ) , I have nothing against Perry, he does his best, the only scapegoat i've seen was the chap who called out Kenneh & Perry from day 1 saying they are out of their depth, a statement that has to be proved wrong by some at all costs ;-) ps who told him to chase everything ?
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Post by mike75 on Feb 5, 2024 16:55:31 GMT 1
I have absolutely no issue of passing the ball backwards what annoys me is the amount of passes we made on Saturday that were behind the player we were attempting to pass to, I lost count how many times this happened on Saturday and immediately you any momentum. It's not rocket science
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