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Post by davycrockett on Jan 14, 2024 10:19:12 GMT 1
frustrating and disappointing in equal measures. Matty must feel like today was a chance to take a bit of pressure off before two difficult away games. Post match he seemed to have lost his spark, said the usual things but also blamed the defence for the goal ‘that shouldn’t have happened’ and the performance a result of poor decision making ‘on the pitch’ . Players are not playing with confidence so mistakes result in goals and for us no goals.
In the last two mid week interviews Matty’s said, yes when asked about new players coming before Wrexham and Stevenage and post match Stevenage ‘we need a little bit of help and hopefully that comes sooner rather than later’………
We had an injury crisis leading up to Christmas so needed a quick fix early in the window. We just follow the rules and let players and no doubt agents control negotiations. We struggled to land targets in the last few windows but I thought with a full time DoF and Head of Recruitment they’d perhaps be identifying players and getting deal done early.
Something needs to change but can’t see changing the coach as anything but another role of the dice. Better recruitment really depends on budget but we seem to be just waiting to see who’s left and who we can get in without really building a cohesive team.
Big decision and not long to make them. Seems like 100s of STH not bothering which must be a concern to the club.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 14, 2024 10:38:17 GMT 1
They won’t worry about the season ticket holders just at the moment because they’ve had the money.
The worry will be how many don’t cough up for next season.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 14, 2024 10:43:07 GMT 1
frustrating and disappointing in equal measures. Matty must feel like today was a chance to take a bit of pressure off before two difficult away games. Post match he seemed to have lost his spark, said the usual things but also blamed the defence for the goal ‘that shouldn’t have happened’ and the performance a result of poor decision making ‘on the pitch’ . Players are not playing with confidence so mistakes result in goals and for us no goals. In the last two mid week interviews Matty’s said, yes when asked about new players coming before Wrexham and Stevenage and post match Stevenage ‘we need a little bit of help and hopefully that comes sooner rather than later’……… We had an injury crisis leading up to Christmas so needed a quick fix early in the window. We just follow the rules and let players and no doubt agents control negotiations. We struggled to land targets in the last few windows but I thought with a full time DoF and Head of Recruitment they’d perhaps be identifying players and getting deal done early. Something needs to change but can’t see changing the coach as anything but another role of the dice. Better recruitment really depends on budget but we seem to be just waiting to see who’s left and who we can get in without really building a cohesive team. Big decision and not long to make them. Seems like 100s of STH not bothering which must be a concern to the club. Ideally that would be the case but the players we would have been able to sign on January 2nd would have either been expensive or of lower quality. Waiting for others to do business will allow us to get better players at a cheaper rate (in theory)
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 14, 2024 10:55:54 GMT 1
frustrating and disappointing in equal measures. Matty must feel like today was a chance to take a bit of pressure off before two difficult away games. Post match he seemed to have lost his spark, said the usual things but also blamed the defence for the goal ‘that shouldn’t have happened’ and the performance a result of poor decision making ‘on the pitch’ . Players are not playing with confidence so mistakes result in goals and for us no goals. In the last two mid week interviews Matty’s said, yes when asked about new players coming before Wrexham and Stevenage and post match Stevenage ‘we need a little bit of help and hopefully that comes sooner rather than later’……… We had an injury crisis leading up to Christmas so needed a quick fix early in the window. We just follow the rules and let players and no doubt agents control negotiations. We struggled to land targets in the last few windows but I thought with a full time DoF and Head of Recruitment they’d perhaps be identifying players and getting deal done early. Something needs to change but can’t see changing the coach as anything but another role of the dice. Better recruitment really depends on budget but we seem to be just waiting to see who’s left and who we can get in without really building a cohesive team. Big decision and not long to make them. Seems like 100s of STH not bothering which must be a concern to the club. Ideally that would be the case but the players we would have been able to sign on January 2nd would have either been expensive or of lower quality. Waiting for others to do business will allow us to get better players at a cheaper rate (in theory) Meanwhile we drop down the table, supporters loose interest and players confidence drops even further. Also why’s MT expecting early signings that don’t materialise.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 14, 2024 10:58:10 GMT 1
They won’t worry about the season ticket holders just at the moment because they’ve had the money. The worry will be how many don’t cough up for next season. Perhaps only 6 weeks away from Early Bird launch so now’s the time to worry. May even be released as an early early bird if Rolly’s still paying the wages.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jan 14, 2024 11:17:34 GMT 1
frustrating and disappointing in equal measures. Matty must feel like today was a chance to take a bit of pressure off before two difficult away games. Post match he seemed to have lost his spark, said the usual things but also blamed the defence for the goal ‘that shouldn’t have happened’ and the performance a result of poor decision making ‘on the pitch’ . Players are not playing with confidence so mistakes result in goals and for us no goals. In the last two mid week interviews Matty’s said, yes when asked about new players coming before Wrexham and Stevenage and post match Stevenage ‘we need a little bit of help and hopefully that comes sooner rather than later’……… We had an injury crisis leading up to Christmas so needed a quick fix early in the window. We just follow the rules and let players and no doubt agents control negotiations. We struggled to land targets in the last few windows but I thought with a full time DoF and Head of Recruitment they’d perhaps be identifying players and getting deal done early. Something needs to change but can’t see changing the coach as anything but another role of the dice. Better recruitment really depends on budget but we seem to be just waiting to see who’s left and who we can get in without really building a cohesive team. Big decision and not long to make them. Seems like 100s of STH not bothering which must be a concern to the club. Ideally that would be the case but the players we would have been able to sign on January 2nd would have either been expensive or of lower quality. Waiting for others to do business will allow us to get better players at a cheaper rate (in theory) That isn't what works though, everyone leaves it late and then you get clubs desperate so offering more
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jan 14, 2024 11:42:19 GMT 1
We need Passant and Bywater to buy RW out
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jan 14, 2024 11:43:18 GMT 1
I've just listened to Mats postmatch interview. I GENUINELY believe he is as peed of with the recruitment as we,as fans, are. For what it's worth I would like to stick with him and no way would I swap him for that Stevenage bloke
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 14, 2024 11:45:58 GMT 1
I've just listened to Mats postmatch interview. I GENUINELY believe he is as peed of with the recruitment as we,as fans, are. For what it's worth I would like to stick with him and no way would I swap him for that Stevenage bloke Why is he annoyed with the recruitment? He’s got a group of players that finished 12th last season. Only Leahy and Pennington left. No excuses for the s**te that’s served up every week.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jan 14, 2024 11:56:00 GMT 1
Gt. OK you got me hooked. Tell me how many of those players are available to play. Tell me just how much say he has in recruitment and then tell me your special plan to put things right. Don't give me the old chestnut of 'I am am a fan it's not my job'. If I Don't like a product I change my choice however if there is a slight change in the product but the intention is right I stick with it until its back to its best. Sometimes I really get sick of the constant bleating with no substance.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 14, 2024 12:08:14 GMT 1
Gt. OK you got me hooked. Tell me how many of those players are available to play. Tell me just how much say he has in recruitment and then tell me your special plan to put things right. Don't give me the old chestnut of 'I am am a fan it's not my job'. If I Don't like a product I change my choice however if there is a slight change in the product but the intention is right I stick with it until its back to its best. Sometimes I really get sick of the constant bleating with no substance. Last seasons team: Marosi - available all season Pennington - replaced with Feeney/Sraha Dunkley - available all season Flanagan- available for 80% of the season Bennett - available all season Shipley - available 60% of the season Winchester - available all season Leahy - replaced with Perry Bayliss - available 80% of the season Bowman - available all season Udoh - available 90% of the season No excuses for me.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jan 14, 2024 12:19:50 GMT 1
Some of those percentages questionable but mostly I agree with. So what's your plan. My problem is the constant moaning about the entire set up,the ambition anything that is slightly not right and isn't 'Premier'. Even back in the day of Mr Turner himself not everyone was happy. (by the way the great man gave me 50p for my daughter when he saw her in my arms as a 12 week old at the old meadow) she still has it
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 14, 2024 13:13:17 GMT 1
Gt. OK you got me hooked. Tell me how many of those players are available to play. Tell me just how much say he has in recruitment and then tell me your special plan to put things right. Don't give me the old chestnut of 'I am am a fan it's not my job'. If I Don't like a product I change my choice however if there is a slight change in the product but the intention is right I stick with it until its back to its best. Sometimes I really get sick of the constant bleating with no substance. Last seasons team: Marosi - available all season Pennington - replaced with Feeney/Sraha Dunkley - available all season Flanagan- available for 80% of the season Bennett - available all season Shipley - available 60% of the season Winchester - available all season Leahy - replaced with Perry Bayliss - available 80% of the season Bowman - available all season Udoh - available 90% of the season No excuses for me. It's also worth noting that other than a purple patch post Christmas that team served up a lot of poor performances and some dreadful football.
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Jan 14, 2024 13:24:02 GMT 1
We need Passant and Bywater to buy RW out Roland has NO real desire to sell the club. He has had his opportunity to sell the club for the benefit of its future and has failed to do so. The pressure from the fans should be on Roland not the management. A change at the very top is what is needed and would make a massive difference for the future in a positive manner
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Post by Pilch on Jan 14, 2024 13:25:42 GMT 1
Gt. OK you got me hooked. Tell me how many of those players are available to play. Tell me just how much say he has in recruitment and then tell me your special plan to put things right. Don't give me the old chestnut of 'I am am a fan it's not my job'. If I Don't like a product I change my choice however if there is a slight change in the product but the intention is right I stick with it until its back to its best. Sometimes I really get sick of the constant bleating with no substance. Last seasons team: Marosi - available all season Pennington - replaced with Feeney/Sraha Dunkley - available all season Flanagan- available for 80% of the season Bennett - available all season Shipley - available 60% of the season Winchester - available all season Leahy - replaced with Perry Bayliss - available 80% of the season Bowman - available all season Udoh - available 90% of the season No excuses for me. does that mean Flanagan is back fit again for the next game ? having already been out for 20% of the season injured
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Post by Pilch on Jan 14, 2024 13:29:53 GMT 1
We need Passant and Bywater to buy RW out Roland has NO real desire to sell the club. He has had his opportunity to sell the club for the benefit of its future and has failed to do so. The pressure from the fans should be on Roland not the management. A change at the very top is what is needed and would make a massive difference for the future in a positive manner you've been listening to too many rumours the guy is desperate to sell the club, but he certainly isn't going to sell it to someone who clearly cant afford it, or was just messing him around, or it that what you want ? a new guy who has to haggle about the asking price for years ?
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Post by southshropblue on Jan 14, 2024 13:32:08 GMT 1
Some of those percentages questionable but mostly I agree with. So what's your plan. My problem is the constant moaning about the entire set up,the ambition anything that is slightly not right and isn't 'Premier'. Even back in the day of Mr Turner himself not everyone was happy. (by the way the great man gave me 50p for my daughter when he saw her in my arms as a 12 week old at the old meadow) she still has it I think that given how few goals we have scored ,how poor the football has been ,How low the players confidence is ,and how confusing the new structure is ,how little communication there is from the club ,and the complete absence of a visible plan , it is not unreasonable for those who pay good mopey to be a little unhappy I can remember seasons worse than this in terms of results ,I cannot remember such a boring season as this one It is just so tedious and so different from what we were promised that will mean season ticket holders won't renew I think worse than moaning is a dangerous complacency Nice story about GT though
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Jan 14, 2024 13:40:00 GMT 1
Roland has NO real desire to sell the club. He has had his opportunity to sell the club for the benefit of its future and has failed to do so. The pressure from the fans should be on Roland not the management. A change at the very top is what is needed and would make a massive difference for the future in a positive manner you've been listening to too many rumours the guy is desperate to sell the club, but he certainly isn't going to sell it to someone who clearly cant afford it, or was just messing him around, or it that what you want ? a new guy who has to haggle about the asking price for years ? U clearly do not know what you are talking about. I know more about the obstinate nature of Roland when bids have been made for this club in the very recent past. He has had the chance to sell to ensure a prosperous future for the club but failed to take it. The new guys would have had the finances to take us in a great leap forward. you should stop thinking you know everything
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Post by Pilch on Jan 14, 2024 14:26:51 GMT 1
you've been listening to too many rumours the guy is desperate to sell the club, but he certainly isn't going to sell it to someone who clearly cant afford it, or was just messing him around, or it that what you want ? a new guy who has to haggle about the asking price for years ? U clearly do not know what you are talking about. I know more about the obstinate nature of Roland when bids have been made for this club in the very recent past. He has had the chance to sell to ensure a prosperous future for the club but failed to take it. The new guys would have had the finances to take us in a great leap forward. you should stop thinking you know everything lol
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Post by kl8-2 on Jan 14, 2024 14:42:32 GMT 1
U clearly do not know what you are talking about. I know more about the obstinate nature of Roland when bids have been made for this club in the very recent past. He has had the chance to sell to ensure a prosperous future for the club but failed to take it. The new guys would have had the finances to take us in a great leap forward. you should stop thinking you know everything lol I am also laughing out loud.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 14, 2024 14:53:28 GMT 1
just over a month ago the club announced there is currently ongoing interest, but also clearly states its not going to anyone who isn't going to safeguard the club
Liam Dooley said the Chairman is aware of his responsibility, having been the guardian of STFC for 27 years. It remains his sole priority to safeguard the club as he has always had the best interests of the club in his heart. The Chairman has been seeking investment for the past ten years and will continue to do so.
There are ongoing expressions of interest, but the decisions have to be based on what is best for the long term future of the football club.
personally if such a guy ever existed
why didn't he step forward and speak to the fans to announce his intentions and maybe lay down some prenuptials as for of safeguarding ?
maybe those who think they know everything can answer that ?
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jan 14, 2024 15:02:02 GMT 1
just over a month ago the club announced there is currently ongoing interest, but also clearly states its not going to anyone who isn't going to safeguard the club Liam Dooley said the Chairman is aware of his responsibility, having been the guardian of STFC for 27 years. It remains his sole priority to safeguard the club as he has always had the best interests of the club in his heart. The Chairman has been seeking investment for the past ten years and will continue to do so.
There are ongoing expressions of interest, but the decisions have to be based on what is best for the long term future of the football club.personally if such a guy ever existed why didn't he step forward and speak to the fans to announce his intentions and maybe lay down some prenuptials as for of safeguarding ? maybe those who think they know everything can answer that ? Likely because they could say very little as they would have signed a non-disclosure agreement, and if they did a deal then at taht time they would want to make their own splash
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Post by Pilch on Jan 14, 2024 15:14:24 GMT 1
just over a month ago the club announced there is currently ongoing interest, but also clearly states its not going to anyone who isn't going to safeguard the club Liam Dooley said the Chairman is aware of his responsibility, having been the guardian of STFC for 27 years. It remains his sole priority to safeguard the club as he has always had the best interests of the club in his heart. The Chairman has been seeking investment for the past ten years and will continue to do so.
There are ongoing expressions of interest, but the decisions have to be based on what is best for the long term future of the football club.personally if such a guy ever existed why didn't he step forward and speak to the fans to announce his intentions and maybe lay down some prenuptials as for of safeguarding ? maybe those who think they know everything can answer that ? Likely because they could say very little as they would have signed a non-disclosure agreement, and if they did a deal then at taht time they would want to make their own splash they might well have signed a non disclosure to not reveal anything they discover about the club, thats bleeding obvious maybe they also signed one that said if you ever tell anyone you offered the full asking price, agreed to safeguarding terms and still got turned away then ...... then what ?
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Post by SamHarvey on Jan 14, 2024 15:22:22 GMT 1
Some of those percentages questionable but mostly I agree with. So what's your plan. My problem is the constant moaning about the entire set up,the ambition anything that is slightly not right and isn't 'Premier'. Even back in the day of Mr Turner himself not everyone was happy. (by the way the great man gave me 50p for my daughter when he saw her in my arms as a 12 week old at the old meadow) she still has it Sorry to jump in on this. I agree with GT regarding change. I wasn’t convinced by the whole set up from the start, previous messages may show this. It looked like we were going with this footballing board, which is fair enough, but then quite quickly reverted to appointing a CEO. So for me, finances depending, I’d scrap the idea and go back to having a football manager, his assistant and a couple of coaches, and have him working along with the CEO and Chairman regards transfers. Footballing side of things left to the manager. I appreciate we’ve employed so many now, and it seems we may have been left in a bit of a financial mess from the previous regime, so as stated finances depending. I know I may be shot down for this, and perhaps it’s just nostalgia, but I’d jump at the chance to bring back Hurst and Doig. Out of work, so would be cheap. And I know some say they’ve not been a great success since leaving, but some things just fit, as it did with them both last time out.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 14, 2024 15:22:50 GMT 1
They won’t worry about the season ticket holders just at the moment because they’ve had the money. The worry will be how many don’t cough up for next season. It seems that ticket holder numbers have held steady over the last few years, but I think that might change next year, as iv said previously some season ticket holders around me are either coming less often or iv not seen them for some time, my impression is that there is a feeling of apathy amongst a number of fans and include myself in that group.combine that with a cost of living crisis which will get worse if ships are unable to use the Suez canal and I hope I'm wrong in this but I think the number of season ticket holders will drop next year.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 14, 2024 15:27:00 GMT 1
I fear I do too. Add in people who won’t renew for personal reasons and age and it could be tricky.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jan 14, 2024 15:28:23 GMT 1
Last seasons team: Marosi - available all season Pennington - replaced with Feeney/Sraha Dunkley - available all season Flanagan- available for 80% of the season Bennett - available all season Shipley - available 60% of the season Winchester - available all season Leahy - replaced with Perry Bayliss - available 80% of the season Bowman - available all season Udoh - available 90% of the season No excuses for me. does that mean Flanagan is back fit again for the next game ? having already been out for 20% of the season injured This exchange ignores the great loans we had last year especially in the second half: Saydee, Phillips, Street, all very attacking This year our loans largely got injured (Phillips, Thorpe, Finnigan, Fleming) leaving just Kenneh standing.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 14, 2024 15:30:41 GMT 1
We need Passant and Bywater to buy RW out But they either aren’t interested, are wanting the club on the cheap or refusing to negotiate. They’ve been wasting our time got 10 years, what makes you think they’re going to buy now? You didn’t include Harris this time, I though he was the go between? BTW Tony Bywayers 82, just what we need another doddery octogenarian 😂
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 14, 2024 16:06:13 GMT 1
We need Passant and Bywater to buy RW out But they either aren’t interested, are wanting the club on the cheap or refusing to negotiate. They’ve been wasting our time got 10 years, what makes you think they’re going to buy now? You didn’t include Harris this time, I though he was the go between? BTW Tony Bywayers 82, just what we need another doddery octogenarian 😂 What's with this another doddery octogenarian? Our octogenarian might be in his eighties, but he can out run most of our players
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 14, 2024 16:16:01 GMT 1
How dare those interested in buying us negotiate Roland’s price. How bloody dare they. They should just accept his valuation as completely fair and accurate? I think the fact they haven’t immediately met the demanded figure probably rules out most of the dodgy ‘super rich’ types.
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