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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:55:07 GMT 1
Some fans calling for MT's head again, for God's sake get behind him! Bloxham not available today, but if he's showing enough promise to not go out on loan again, he'll be in the team next time unless some strikers come in. I see where you are coming from, honestly I do, but are those words similar to those which may have been heard as the Titanic sank.."get behind the Captain..." For me MT has not got to the stage Peters and Quinn got to, devoid of ideas and broken. MT still seems to have some spirit and, anyway, who would want to replace him?
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:55:18 GMT 1
Let's see if we improve with these 2 strikers allegedly coming in......I have my doubts.....they won't get any service for a start🤷🤷
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Post by vladimir on Jan 13, 2024 18:56:09 GMT 1
I see where you are coming from, honestly I do, but are those words similar to those which may have been heard as the Titanic sank.."get behind the Captain..." For me MT has not got to the stage Peters and Quinn got to, devoid of ideas and broken. MT still seems to have some spirit and, anyway, who would want to replace him? Hurst and Doig.
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Post by servernaside on Jan 13, 2024 18:56:30 GMT 1
I painted some things at home this morning and spent a pleasant and warm afternoon watching the paint dry. Sounds l like this was a sensible decision.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:56:59 GMT 1
Let's see if we improve with these 2 strikers allegedly coming in......I have my doubts.....they won't get any service for a start🤷🤷 What two strikers? Chances are they won’t come.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 13, 2024 18:57:23 GMT 1
They were good enough last season under Cotterill though? Which makes me think that it’s MT that just isn’t able to get us playing. did we mock the side last season when we had a shot on target ? sometimes the only one of the game in the 90th minute NOPE my honest opinion of today, 1st half we looked out of shape but neither side created a decent chance , we came out second half in better shape, were the better side, creating chances albeit missing them Perry style, and then around 60 mins Benning has a free kick, curled one in but easy for the keeper, that was the moment '19' the opportunity to humiliate the players, I said at the time, Dunkley for one hates chants like that , it can demotivate the players, it worked, more joined in we lost interest, and lost some fans then seemed a lot happier and started singing here's a song 'we cry when we lose' 'we cry when we lose' 'we are the shrewsbury' 'we cry when we lose' Do agree with you about the self-deprecating chants. Definitely not my cup of tea. Pointless, and really doesn’t do us any favours.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:59:57 GMT 1
Not sure if its just me but this time feels a lot different from other times when we have been so poor the managers job has been at risk. Previously it's been a case of get rid of the manager and hope the next one can improve us. This time feels like its a lot deeper but fans are that fed up they are not even angry. Passion is everything in football and it feels so stale to be a town fan in recent times. I'd agree with this, there are so many unknowns in in whats happened this season, that its hard to make a reasonable judgement on whats the best direction for the club. If Taylor is dismissed do we stick with the coaching role still? Would the new set up of the DoF stay or would we revert to a manager role - maybe on a temporary basis to get through the season? How much, if any funds are there that would allow us to recruit a new coach/manager, and allow player recruitment. How advanced our potential player deals to come in, and would these faulter if the coach changes There is probably a lot of other questions too. Thats why i think an update from Moore on whats happening would help a lot. Its seems a bit unfair to me Taylor is the one being left to answer all the questions and I'm not 100% he's the cause of the problems Not quite sure where the money will come from to pay all this lot off though. They all need to go, but Roland would rather see us relegated than find that sort of money to pay them all off.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 13, 2024 19:01:09 GMT 1
Well at this rate he’ll get his wish.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 13, 2024 19:04:52 GMT 1
I'd agree with this, there are so many unknowns in in whats happened this season, that its hard to make a reasonable judgement on whats the best direction for the club. If Taylor is dismissed do we stick with the coaching role still? Would the new set up of the DoF stay or would we revert to a manager role - maybe on a temporary basis to get through the season? How much, if any funds are there that would allow us to recruit a new coach/manager, and allow player recruitment. How advanced our potential player deals to come in, and would these faulter if the coach changes There is probably a lot of other questions too. Thats why i think an update from Moore on whats happening would help a lot. Its seems a bit unfair to me Taylor is the one being left to answer all the questions and I'm not 100% he's the cause of the problems Not quite sure where the money will come from to pay all this lot off though. They all need to go, but Roland would rather see us relegated than find that sort of money to pay them all off. if he wanted us relegated he could have stopped topping the wages up 12 months ago or anytime since , and we'd have had points deductions, there would have been no need to hide the fact someone had bled us dry either, that would have been obvious to all
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 13, 2024 19:05:20 GMT 1
For me MT has not got to the stage Peters and Quinn got to, devoid of ideas and broken. MT still seems to have some spirit and, anyway, who would want to replace him? Hurst and Doig. Hurst isn't the messiah, he was just a very naughty boy. If he was so good these days he wouldn't be available.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Jan 13, 2024 19:09:04 GMT 1
Wow Bombshell dropped by Steve Cross, "Matt Taylor needs Help, Bring Steve Cotterill Back!" Who needs Cotterill when you've got Bignot?
More than once today the camera shifted to Taylor and Bignot in conference on the sidelines and each time you're just reminder of just how much experience and success the pair of them have had at this level, indeed any level; bugger all. I will reiterate what I said a few weeks ago, Taylor needs an experienced number 2 to work alongside him. Bignot is not the answer.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 13, 2024 19:13:20 GMT 1
Football is a horrible industry when you’re crap. However, sarcastic ‘shot on target’ chants are as timid as you could ever wish for and if those chants alone were the reason that our 10 minute spell came to an end second half, what explains the first half? Somehow that half goes right near the top of most pointless and boring I’ve ever witnessed. So void of any action that I think whether we currently were drawing with ‘decent’ opposition was largely irrelevant.
This was a huge step backwards after the positive way we played against Fleetwood and Wrexham. Huge.
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Post by footballfan123 on Jan 13, 2024 19:18:05 GMT 1
First half was terrible from both teams, second half a bit of an improvement but we still didn't create enough chances. Wasn't great
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Post by chameleon on Jan 13, 2024 19:18:12 GMT 1
Another shocker. We’ve lost 5 out of the last 6 league games. We’ve scored 17 league goals in 27 games. Something has to change NOW. MT is clearly well out of his depth.
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Post by secretshrew on Jan 13, 2024 19:22:08 GMT 1
The worst thing about this is that nobody REALLY knows who to blame or who is at fault. Would Taylor be any better if he was solely in charge of recruitment and managing? I don’t think we’ll find out but my overriding feeling is that the recruitment hasn’t been good enough. I get that we’re shopping at Aldi now whereas previous seasons we’ve been shopping at Harrods by the sounds of it, but still there’s enough players out there to recruit better than we have, especially when you look at some of the loan players. This Bloxham saga almost reflects that this isn’t working and nobody know wtf is going on and who’s making decisions. We recall him from his loan and then have a discussion in the next 48 hours as to what’s going on with his future. What’s that about?!! Anyway, I’m sure we’ll win next week and all will be well again!!
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Post by MetaShrew on Jan 13, 2024 19:26:46 GMT 1
Today we officially bought tickets for the relegation dogfight.
No refunds; see website for full terms and conditions.
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Post by southshropblue on Jan 13, 2024 19:27:48 GMT 1
That was tedious in the extreme. .If you missed it lucky you I like Taylor as a human being. He is trying hard ,the players are still playing for him but whatever the plan is (and it is hard to discern one ) this really is not working not the formation ,not the recruitment , not the structure at the club Something has to change and now. Whether that is bringing someone into support Taylor instead of Bignot ,whether it is bringing in an experienced manager to replace him and MM We would be very unwise for the current set up to have the transfer window
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Post by mattmw on Jan 13, 2024 19:38:00 GMT 1
Today we officially bought tickets for the relegation dogfight. No refunds; see website for full terms and conditions. I still think we have enough in the side to stay up but there is no doubt we're now looking down rather than up the table. Part of my optimsim is that Fleetwood and Carlisle are both on poor runs and don't seem to be showing signs of improving, and Reading are in a mess on and off the pitch and todays events can't have helped much either, and may lead to further sanctions. Cheltenham have obviously recovered well from the start of the season and wouldn't put it past them to escape relegation, but Exeter, Wigan and Burton are also hardly pulling up any trees either. That said I think its key we get at least 2-3 signings in soon who can bring something a bit different to the side and boost the confidence a bit. Despite everything our home form is not that bad and with a bit of luck signing wise I think we could get the a few wins and some draws which should be enough. Thats why I'd stick with Taylor and the set up and hope the work going on behind the scenes bares fruit. I'd worrry changing everything at this stage would create even more uncertainty than we have now. That said I'd think we'd need to get something out of the next three games of the pressure will really build as in any form of football one win in ten is always going to put pressue on the manager/coach.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 13, 2024 19:39:47 GMT 1
A poor ref and two por teams, we are dire and virtually toothless. Two shoots on target neither troubled the keeper, moments that could have turned the game Shipley was on the break two players to pass to instead of passing in to space for sobowale to use his pace to beat the player he hoofed it and they headed it away Bayliss on the edge of box instead of just shooting tried to put it to his right foot made a mess of it and had the ball taken off him, Bayliss on the edge of the box X ball at his right foot shoots and missed the goal. We have traded down on players this season and the players who stayed from last season seem out of sorts. The only player who caused them any problems was Bending on the wing, iv only seen our number 12 twice as he has come on as a sub but so far he does not bring much to the game the only reason we may stay up is there are so many dreadfull teams in our league.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 13, 2024 19:42:41 GMT 1
Cambridge at home on the 3rd Feb Wigan at home on the 17th Feb Reading away on the 24th Feb Exeter at home on the 12th Mar Carlisle at home on the 16th Mar
The most important of our remaining fixtures, they’ll go along way to defining our season.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 13, 2024 19:44:13 GMT 1
How much more of this rubbish are we expected to take? Gutless, spineless, directionless, aimless. As a team, as a club. I feel worn out, tired and totally fed up of this set up, from the Chairman down to the players, we are stale Stevenage - didn’t look anything special, but withstood our 10 mins of semi-pressure easily, and their chance in clinical fashion Roland - take action now and sack Taylor, Bignot and Moore. If you don’t, we will get relegated Not sure if its just me but this time feels a lot different from other times when we have been so poor the managers job has been at risk. Previously it's been a case of get rid of the manager and hope the next one can improve us. This time feels like its a lot deeper but fans are that fed up they are not even angry. Passion is everything in football and it feels so stale to be a town fan in recent times. Totally agree, an incredible amount of apathy has set in to our club and fan base We rock up on a Saturday, know we are going to be bored senseless, if we get lucky like against Peterborough we may score 1 goal, if we get very lucky like V Northampton we might even win a game But that’s as good as it gets. Apathy is the most dangerous emotion in sport, the club should be very worried, if they don’t act and act fast, we will get relegated, then they will know about financial issues when they lose a bulk of season ticket holders at £370 a pop
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Post by MetaShrew on Jan 13, 2024 19:52:07 GMT 1
Today we officially bought tickets for the relegation dogfight. No refunds; see website for full terms and conditions. I still think we have enough in the side to stay up but there is no doubt we're now looking down rather than up the table. Part of my optimsim is that Fleetwood and Carlisle are both on poor runs and don't seem to be showing signs of improving, and Reading are in a mess on and off the pitch and todays events can't have helped much either, and may lead to further sanctions. Cheltenham have obviously recovered well from the start of the season and wouldn't put it past them to escape relegation, but Exeter, Wigan and Burton are also hardly pulling up any trees either. That said I think its key we get at least 2-3 signings in soon who can bring something a bit different to the side and boost the confidence a bit. Despite everything our home form is not that bad and with a bit of luck signing wise I think we could get the a few wins and some draws which should be enough. Thats why I'd stick with Taylor and the set up and hope the work going on behind the scenes bares fruit. I'd worrry changing everything at this stage would create even more uncertainty than we have now. That said I'd think we'd need to get something out of the next three games of the pressure will really build as in any form of football one win in ten is always going to put pressue on the manager/coach. Appreciate your thoughtful post, but as things stand you will have a hard time convincing many Town fans that we aren't one of the poorest teams in League One. We currently have more points on the board than the bottom four, but there is no confidence in how many goals we will see between now and the end of April, let alone where we are going to find something like six or seven wins.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 13, 2024 20:01:12 GMT 1
For me MT has not got to the stage Peters and Quinn got to, devoid of ideas and broken. MT still seems to have some spirit and, anyway, who would want to replace him? Hurst and Doig. 👀
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Post by mattmw on Jan 13, 2024 20:01:57 GMT 1
I still think we have enough in the side to stay up but there is no doubt we're now looking down rather than up the table. Part of my optimsim is that Fleetwood and Carlisle are both on poor runs and don't seem to be showing signs of improving, and Reading are in a mess on and off the pitch and todays events can't have helped much either, and may lead to further sanctions. Cheltenham have obviously recovered well from the start of the season and wouldn't put it past them to escape relegation, but Exeter, Wigan and Burton are also hardly pulling up any trees either. That said I think its key we get at least 2-3 signings in soon who can bring something a bit different to the side and boost the confidence a bit. Despite everything our home form is not that bad and with a bit of luck signing wise I think we could get the a few wins and some draws which should be enough. Thats why I'd stick with Taylor and the set up and hope the work going on behind the scenes bares fruit. I'd worrry changing everything at this stage would create even more uncertainty than we have now. That said I'd think we'd need to get something out of the next three games of the pressure will really build as in any form of football one win in ten is always going to put pressue on the manager/coach. Appreciate your thoughtful post, but as things stand you will have a hard time convincing many Town fans that we aren't one of the poorest teams in League One. We currently have more points on the board than the bottom four, but there is no confidence in how many goals we will see between now and the end of April, let alone where we are going to find something like six or seven wins. Oh I'm certainly not saying we're not poor, just that there are probably poorer teams in a worst position this season, but that hardly a glowing reference for us. And certainly if we go 3, 4, 5 more games without a win there is every chance we might implode and not win again all season - as we did in that Ratcliffe season where things just fell apart in the last three months of the season My other reason for sticking with Taylor is I'm not sure we'd attract someone better. With all the rumours about us loosing a lot of money and the uncertainty of who is doing what in the new set up, and the Chairman probably not wanting to go back to a straight out manager again, I'm currently going with stick with what we have as the alternative might be worse! Even if we stick with Taylor and stay up I'm far from certain what happens next season too. There's not a lot of green shoots of lots of young players coming through and finding their feet in league one, and potentially our more experienced high earners might be off in the summer. Some clarity about whats going on and what expectations are from Moore would I think help, but I'm not holding out much hope as he seems to dislike the public eye as much as the Chairman
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 13, 2024 20:05:54 GMT 1
I still think we have enough in the side to stay up but there is no doubt we're now looking down rather than up the table. Part of my optimsim is that Fleetwood and Carlisle are both on poor runs and don't seem to be showing signs of improving, and Reading are in a mess on and off the pitch and todays events can't have helped much either, and may lead to further sanctions. Cheltenham have obviously recovered well from the start of the season and wouldn't put it past them to escape relegation, but Exeter, Wigan and Burton are also hardly pulling up any trees either. That said I think its key we get at least 2-3 signings in soon who can bring something a bit different to the side and boost the confidence a bit. Despite everything our home form is not that bad and with a bit of luck signing wise I think we could get the a few wins and some draws which should be enough. Thats why I'd stick with Taylor and the set up and hope the work going on behind the scenes bares fruit. I'd worrry changing everything at this stage would create even more uncertainty than we have now. That said I'd think we'd need to get something out of the next three games of the pressure will really build as in any form of football one win in ten is always going to put pressue on the manager/coach. Appreciate your thoughtful post, but as things stand you will have a hard time convincing many Town fans that we aren't one of the poorest teams in League One. We currently have more points on the board than the bottom four, but there is no confidence in how many goals we will see between now and the end of April, let alone where we are going to find something like six or seven wins. We have over achieved considerably in getting the points we have imo, for the football we have played and goals we have scored. Look at some of the results: Win away at Fleetwood - battered by the worst team in the league who had 10 men Win v northampton - they missed a penalty and we got a smash and grab in Injury time Win v reading - awful performance with another undeserved injury time smash and grab I’ve said all season, since August when we were clinging on v teams like Cheltenham, Burton, Fleetwood, and losing to teams like Carlisle, we’re getting more points than we deserve, I reckon we should be on about 20 points from 27 games, if we repeat that from now until May, we’re relegated, simple as that That is why I am adamant we need to make some serious changes and fast
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 13, 2024 20:11:38 GMT 1
The Bloxham debate is academic - he's come back to cover for if either a loan striker doesn't come back in (in the case people on this board have rightly identified its the guys from Wolves and Palace). I don't think Tom will offer a lot anyway.
The squad as a whole is low on confidence, the Wrexham result has possibly hit them harder as well.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 13, 2024 20:22:10 GMT 1
My pennies worth...
Stevenage were terrible the whole game. We were terrible the whole game apart from a 10min spell after Bayliss and Mata came on, but that's when they scored and we reverted to type.
Bowman barely touched the ball running around like a headless chicken. Marosi had little to do. I didn't see Sraha and Kenneh do much today, nor Shipley, nor Sobowale...
Dunkley was great as usual. Feeney and Pierre did well. Benning had a good game, he was crossing the ball in at every opportunity. We have missed Winchester, him and Feeney were the only players willing to control the ball and pick out a pass.
The new guy did okay, would maybe like to see him start. Mata probably had his best 30mins for us, he was a nuisance for their defenders.
I my 7yo and sat in block 10. A lot of swearing, no need. I will sit in the east stand next time.
The ref was terrible. It was very cold. I want my money back.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 13, 2024 20:25:16 GMT 1
The Manager: Not now obviously. The team: Need some good additions this window and a damn good win to lift the blues. The Refs: Good ones. The fans: Paid their hard earned money, so fair enough. But doubt the manager or players will be coming round to your workplace to shout abuse at you.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 13, 2024 20:29:50 GMT 1
Prior to the start of the games was probably the most negative iv ever felt prior to the a town game, apathy is probably the strongest feeling I feel, I wish it was different but I felt really worried at the start of the season and all my concerns have materialized. I don't feel very opptamistic about the transfer window after the manager article in the star it just felt he was getting his excuses s in Let us hope we have a minor miracle and we sign a few players who turn things around .
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 13, 2024 20:34:33 GMT 1
Wasn't there today, it seems whenever the opposite goes in front the team capitulates and their heads completely go, perhaps the opposition know this as well.
Seems Benning was strong again, I'm glad that Feeney did well too he's been hammered on here because of his distribution but personally his defending is good.
There is a sheer lack of creativity, it seems the subs did work up until the point the goal went in.
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