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Post by armchairfan on Jan 13, 2024 18:13:06 GMT 1
Some fans calling for MT's head again, for God's sake get behind him! Bloxham not available today, but if he's showing enough promise to not go out on loan again, he'll be in the team next time unless some strikers come in. I see where you are coming from, honestly I do, but are those words similar to those which may have been heard as the Titanic sank.."get behind the Captain..."
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Post by northwestman on Jan 13, 2024 18:14:03 GMT 1
These players are so much better than this. MT is not good enough to get results or get the best out of players. I cant see it getting any better under his leadership. Time for him to go. The worry is though, is that it's not just Taylor is it. He's got a whole coaching team and DoF above that. They aren't all going to be sacked. What's getting rid of Taylor going to do? He's only a small cog in the whole system And who will replace MT if he's sacked? Almost certainly MM's mate MB which is a certain recipe for disaster.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:14:44 GMT 1
Town 0 - 1 Stevenage Reid, 65th Called it days ago, was obvious we weren't going to score past a well drilled side.
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Post by mattmw on Jan 13, 2024 18:16:32 GMT 1
These players are so much better than this. MT is not good enough to get results or get the best out of players. I cant see it getting any better under his leadership. Time for him to go. The worry is though, is that it's not just Taylor is it. He's got a whole coaching team and DoF above that. They aren't all going to be sacked. What's getting rid of Taylor going to do? He's only a small cog in the whole system I do feel a bit for Taylor as its not overly clear quite how much influence he us getting over team tactics, selections and overall style of play, and just how much influence the Director of Football has. The players seem behind him, but the overall impression is of no one quite knowing what to do and what the plan is. I think I'd like to get Moore to be a bit more public this week and step up and support Taylor via the media. It feels if the Director of Football role is to really work at the club now is the time for him to step up and be seen and heard more than he has been, and give Taylor a bit of support.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:18:16 GMT 1
Usually after 10/12 games, you'll usually see a gradual improvement......but yes,we are getting worse,which is very worrying.....and as I said months ago......the players we have, aren't quite good enough for league 1.....more so the midfield and strikers....we don't create much,and strikers are poor in the box.... it's as simple as that🤷🤷🤷
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 13, 2024 18:18:46 GMT 1
How much more of this rubbish are we expected to take?
Gutless, spineless, directionless, aimless. As a team, as a club. I feel worn out, tired and totally fed up of this set up, from the Chairman down to the players, we are stale
Stevenage - didn’t look anything special, but withstood our 10 mins of semi-pressure easily, and their chance in clinical fashion
Roland - take action now and sack Taylor, Bignot and Moore. If you don’t, we will get relegated
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 13, 2024 18:19:11 GMT 1
Terrible, abject, hopeless rubbish.
The first half was just about the worst advert for football that I’ve seen in a long long while, there was literally nothing to get the fans even remotely excited or on the edge of their seat.
The second half started more of the same, we had ten minutes of impetus 60-70 after the triple change, before reverting to type. Stevenage may not have offered much, but the pass and finish for their goal are way beyond the capabilities of anyone in our squad. And as per the Wrexham game, once we concede it’s game over, we know it, the players know it, and Taylor knows it.
Benning played well. Bayliss with another substitute disasterclass to follow last weekends.
If you’re glass half full you could look at that and say there wasn’t much between the two sides and there’s no need for an overreaction to a close defeat. But that game encapsulated perfectly how truly limited and poor we are. I wasn’t even angry or sad leaving the ground, just resigned to it happening. And it’ll happen exactly like that for most of the remaining Saturdays too.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 13, 2024 18:21:25 GMT 1
Usually after 10/12 games, you'll usually see a gradual improvement......but yes,we are getting worse,which is very worrying.....and as I said months ago......the players we have, aren't quite good enough for league 1.....more so the midfield and strikers....we don't create much,and strikers are poor in the box.... it's as simple as that🤷🤷🤷 They were good enough last season under Cotterill though? Which makes me think that it’s MT that just isn’t able to get us playing.
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Post by vladimir on Jan 13, 2024 18:22:03 GMT 1
Sad to see our season relying on the whims of palace or wolves sending us an 18 year old unproven striker who might have the ability to score enough goals for safety.
Not a sustainable model.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jan 13, 2024 18:22:16 GMT 1
My main feeling walking away was thank god we are away the next two Saturdays so I won't be wasting my time watching this turgid rubbish.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 13, 2024 18:22:45 GMT 1
How much more of this rubbish are we expected to take? Gutless, spineless, directionless, aimless. As a team, as a club. I feel worn out, tired and totally fed up of this set up, from the Chairman down to the players, we are stale Stevenage - didn’t look anything special, but withstood our 10 mins of semi-pressure easily, and their chance in clinical fashion Roland - take action now and sack Taylor, Bignot and Moore. If you don’t, we will get relegated Not sure if its just me but this time feels a lot different from other times when we have been so poor the managers job has been at risk. Previously it's been a case of get rid of the manager and hope the next one can improve us. This time feels like its a lot deeper but fans are that fed up they are not even angry. Passion is everything in football and it feels so stale to be a town fan in recent times.
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:23:18 GMT 1
Oh, and before anyone chirps up about “a season in league 2 will do us good”, look at one of the teams who got relegated last season and ask any Forest Green fan if he’s enjoying his time in league 2!
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:29:08 GMT 1
I won't change my mind on bayliss or Shipley tbh.....under cotterill or Taylor......both don't do nowhere near enough......our top scorer from midfield will score about 4......said it months ago.and I won't be far off either👍👍🤷🤷
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jan 13, 2024 18:32:41 GMT 1
Sad to see our season relying on the whims of palace or wolves sending us an 18 year old unproven striker who might have the ability to score enough goals for safety. Not a sustainable model. Well also add in a very poor league with some really poor teams so town have somehow ridden quite high in the league. They are gradually dropping though, and have played 1 or 2 more games than nearly every team around them. Two away games against top half teams who are both in fairly decent form, and also at which point teams have caught up on some games too. Two losses could mean them teetering on the brink of the relegation zone
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 13, 2024 18:34:20 GMT 1
AS a positive side note I was impressed with Idowu, quick, good with the ball and not afraid to take a player on. I look forward to seeing more of him.
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Post by armchairfan on Jan 13, 2024 18:34:38 GMT 1
Listening to the radio, I formed the impression that this was a match of "anti-football" v "non-football" with officials who don't know about ANY sort of football, but the latter point was admittedly a Steve Cross suggestion, so can probably be discounted....
I also think that the current structure was probably Mr Wycherley's last throw of the dice.... and it has obviously failed, with little sign of progress.
You have been in this place for too long - in the name of God, go!
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 13, 2024 18:35:35 GMT 1
Wow Bombshell dropped by Steve Cross, "Matt Taylor needs Help, Bring Steve Cotterill Back!"
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Post by dachshund on Jan 13, 2024 18:38:00 GMT 1
This is the worst we’ve been in my lifetime, way worse than the Jake King era
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 13, 2024 18:38:16 GMT 1
AS a positive side note I was impressed with Idowu, quick, good with the ball and not afraid to take a player on. I look forward to seeing more of him. I wouldn’t worry about that, we’ll have suitably discouraged any sort of flair or attacking intent from his game before long.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:38:29 GMT 1
Why..... he's got bignot by the side of him.....and the next head coach,if Taylor goes🤷🤷🤷and that's what will happen my friend 😪😪🤦
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jan 13, 2024 18:39:00 GMT 1
Oh, and before anyone chirps up about “a season in league 2 will do us good”, look at one of the teams who got relegated last season and ask any Forest Green fan if he’s enjoying his time in league 2! 4 relegated sides from last season lie 7th, 12th, 16th and rock bottom in league two at the moment. Doesn't look like at this stage any of them will return. It's a tough league - quality is definitely a lot closer to bottom half of league one I'd say than it has been in quite a while. Proven by last season's promoted league two sides doing fairly well. 3 out of 4 of them are in the top 10 in league one at the moment.
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Post by kl8-2 on Jan 13, 2024 18:39:42 GMT 1
My prediction is that Steve Cotterill will not return to Shrewsbury Town.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jan 13, 2024 18:40:16 GMT 1
Wow Bombshell dropped by Steve Cross, "Matt Taylor needs Help, Bring Steve Cotterill Back!" This is Steve Cross though.....
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Post by mattmw on Jan 13, 2024 18:40:43 GMT 1
How much more of this rubbish are we expected to take? Gutless, spineless, directionless, aimless. As a team, as a club. I feel worn out, tired and totally fed up of this set up, from the Chairman down to the players, we are stale Stevenage - didn’t look anything special, but withstood our 10 mins of semi-pressure easily, and their chance in clinical fashion Roland - take action now and sack Taylor, Bignot and Moore. If you don’t, we will get relegated Not sure if its just me but this time feels a lot different from other times when we have been so poor the managers job has been at risk. Previously it's been a case of get rid of the manager and hope the next one can improve us. This time feels like its a lot deeper but fans are that fed up they are not even angry. Passion is everything in football and it feels so stale to be a town fan in recent times. I'd agree with this, there are so many unknowns in in whats happened this season, that its hard to make a reasonable judgement on whats the best direction for the club. If Taylor is dismissed do we stick with the coaching role still? Would the new set up of the DoF stay or would we revert to a manager role - maybe on a temporary basis to get through the season? How much, if any funds are there that would allow us to recruit a new coach/manager, and allow player recruitment. How advanced our potential player deals to come in, and would these faulter if the coach changes There is probably a lot of other questions too. Thats why i think an update from Moore on whats happening would help a lot. Its seems a bit unfair to me Taylor is the one being left to answer all the questions and I'm not 100% he's the cause of the problems
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:41:33 GMT 1
Wow Bombshell dropped by Steve Cross, "Matt Taylor needs Help, Bring Steve Cotterill Back!" Who needs Cotterill when you've got Bignot?
More than once today the camera shifted to Taylor and Bignot in conference on the sidelines and each time you're just reminder of just how much experience and success the pair of them have had at this level, indeed any level; bugger all.
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Post by dachshund on Jan 13, 2024 18:42:26 GMT 1
Nice that Moore’s one major communication all season has been to say these aren’t his players, they’re the coach’s
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Post by Pilch on Jan 13, 2024 18:45:13 GMT 1
Usually after 10/12 games, you'll usually see a gradual improvement......but yes,we are getting worse,which is very worrying.....and as I said months ago......the players we have, aren't quite good enough for league 1.....more so the midfield and strikers....we don't create much,and strikers are poor in the box.... it's as simple as that🤷🤷🤷 They were good enough last season under Cotterill though? Which makes me think that it’s MT that just isn’t able to get us playing. did we mock the side last season when we had a shot on target ? sometimes the only one of the game in the 90th minute NOPE my honest opinion of today, 1st half we looked out of shape but neither side created a decent chance , we came out second half in better shape, were the better side, creating chances albeit missing them Perry style, and then around 60 mins Benning has a free kick, curled one in but easy for the keeper, that was the moment '19' the opportunity to humiliate the players, I said at the time, Dunkley for one hates chants like that , it can demotivate the players, it worked, more joined in we lost interest, and lost some fans then seemed a lot happier and started singing here's a song 'we cry when we lose' 'we cry when we lose' 'we are the shrewsbury' 'we cry when we lose'
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 13, 2024 18:45:54 GMT 1
Not sure if its just me but this time feels a lot different from other times when we have been so poor the managers job has been at risk. Previously it's been a case of get rid of the manager and hope the next one can improve us. This time feels like its a lot deeper but fans are that fed up they are not even angry. Passion is everything in football and it feels so stale to be a town fan in recent times. I'd agree with this, there are so many unknowns in in whats happened this season, that its hard to make a reasonable judgement on whats the best direction for the club. If Taylor is dismissed do we stick with the coaching role still? Would the new set up of the DoF stay or would we revert to a manager role - maybe on a temporary basis to get through the season? How much, if any funds are there that would allow us to recruit a new coach/manager, and allow player recruitment. How advanced our potential player deals to come in, and would these faulter if the coach changes There is probably a lot of other questions too. Thats why i think an update from Moore on whats happening would help a lot. Its seems a bit unfair to me Taylor is the one being left to answer all the questions and I'm not 100% he's the cause of the problems I’m not 100% sure either and think things are badly wrong from the top down, but then it’s Taylor, Bignot and Parrish that are working with these players on the training ground five days a week, and these guys that are failing at getting us playing football, failing at getting us scoring goals, failing at getting us winning games and failing at giving us any sort of footballing identity. They may have been given a hospital pass, but their failings are not fully excused.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 13, 2024 18:47:38 GMT 1
Hmmm, Taylor starting to sound a little like Ricketts now, "I think I did alright in my Career"
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jan 13, 2024 18:50:29 GMT 1
Some fans calling for MT's head again, for God's sake get behind him! Bloxham not available today, but if he's showing enough promise to not go out on loan again, he'll be in the team next time unless some strikers come in. I try to be positive and It takes a lot for me to turn on the manager but even I am unable to think of a reason to keep him in the role. He has had a long time to improve us and we seem to be getting worse. Unless something changes we are heading down. Fair does Pughy , it’s taken you some time to smell the coffee but you eventually got there 👍😉
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