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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 12, 2024 19:55:28 GMT 1
I wasn't really expecting the programme to be at moving as it was. It's really affected me.
I can't quite believe that Paula Vennels was informally discussed as a potential future bishop of London.
I just don't it.
How was it all allowed to happen?
That post office investigator who was at the inquiry yesterday needs putting in the stocks in London. I'll bring the tomatoes. In tins!
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Post by Pilch on Jan 12, 2024 20:16:30 GMT 1
I wasn't really expecting the programme to be at moving as it was. It's really affected me. I can't quite believe that Paula Vennels was informally discussed as a potential future bishop of London. I just don't it. How was it all allowed to happen? That post office investigator who was at the inquiry yesterday needs putting in the stocks in London. I'll bring the tomatoes. In tins! lol I agree, im sure Mr Bean would do it
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Post by jamo on Jan 12, 2024 20:33:43 GMT 1
That post office investigator who was at the inquiry yesterday needs putting in the stocks in London. I'll bring the tomatoes. In tins! I found that really uncomfortable viewing. He was almost chilling in his indifference to events and his very clear opinion that he was untouchable. As the female postmaster from Newcastle, who he convicted and who was in the front row for his testimony said afterwards “ he came across as very Post office” That’s as damning as it gets
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Post by northwestman on Jan 12, 2024 22:14:18 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67941495Sir Tony Blair was warned the Horizon IT system at the centre of the Post Office scandal could be flawed before it was rolled out, a document shows. A handwritten note from the then-Labour PM, published by the public inquiry on Friday, suggests he raised concerns after being warned the system was "possibly unreliable". But he said he gave it the go-ahead after being reassured by others. Among them was Peter Mandelson, who was then his trade and industry secretary. In a letter dated 10 December 1998, Lord Mandelson said he believed the "only sensible choice" was to proceed with Horizon. He warned that cancelling the contract would cause "political fallout" from post office closures and damage relations with Fujitsu, which he described as a major investor in the UK. Lord Mandelson said "the basic development work has been thoroughly evaluated by independent experts who have pronounced it viable, robust and of a design which should accommodate future technological developments". That word 'robust' again!
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 12, 2024 22:36:37 GMT 1
Yep doesn’t matter who they or where they come from they should all hang their heads in shame and take responsibility.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 13, 2024 11:01:31 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/13/post-office-owner-says-horizon-system-was-used-to-frame-him-for-wifes-murderA post office owner serving a life sentence for murdering his wife hopes to submit a fresh appeal against his conviction, claiming the discredited Horizon computer system was used to wrongly frame him for the killing. With no DNA evidence to link him to the murder or the metal bar used to kill his wife, Garbutt was convicted in part after the jury heard evidence from a Post Office investigator using data from the Horizon system. This purportedly showed he was stealing money from the Post Office and then killed his wife to cover up his theft. He was found guilty at trial in 2011 on the basis of circumstantial evidence, with the jury split 10-2, a majority verdict. North Yorkshire police have a lot to answer for with their investigation, which involved losing and contaminating evidence.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 13, 2024 13:26:35 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/13/post-office-owner-says-horizon-system-was-used-to-frame-him-for-wifes-murderA post office owner serving a life sentence for murdering his wife hopes to submit a fresh appeal against his conviction, claiming the discredited Horizon computer system was used to wrongly frame him for the killing. With no DNA evidence to link him to the murder or the metal bar used to kill his wife, Garbutt was convicted in part after the jury heard evidence from a Post Office investigator using data from the Horizon system. This purportedly showed he was stealing money from the Post Office and then killed his wife to cover up his theft. He was found guilty at trial in 2011 on the basis of circumstantial evidence, with the jury split 10-2, a majority verdict. North Yorkshire police have a lot to answer for with their investigation, which involved losing and contaminating evidence. thats a can of worms,
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 13, 2024 13:49:35 GMT 1
Except with no dna evidence either it may be he’s innocent.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 13, 2024 14:31:14 GMT 1
Except with no dna evidence either it may be he’s innocent. Start by taking out any evidence from the Horizon system and see how the rest of the evidence stacks up.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 13, 2024 14:39:42 GMT 1
Except with no dna evidence either it may be he’s innocent. Start by taking out any evidence from the Horizon system and see how the rest of the evidence stacks up. why would you kill someone to cover up something you haven't done ?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 13, 2024 15:03:19 GMT 1
Start by taking out any evidence from the Horizon system and see how the rest of the evidence stacks up. why would you kill someone to cover up something you haven't done ? Have you not watched the programme? Sub Postmasters were killing themselves, their families torn apart, divorcing, all sorts, because they were accused of things they hadn't done.
Your brain is working correctly, their brains were working under severe duress. They were doing things like going into personal debt to cover up supposed discrepancies.
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