|
Post by Pilch on Mar 21, 2024 16:28:15 GMT 1
every potential buyer so far has requested the chairman stay on for a period of time to allow for continuity, the chairman has always been happy to oblige by this but bearing in mind he cant stay for too long as he has his own new business ventures to take on, we could pretend the current chairman wants to remain full time but that would just be idle gossip and untrue
|
|
|
Post by martinshrew on Mar 21, 2024 16:47:04 GMT 1
Laughable.
|
|
|
Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 21, 2024 16:50:16 GMT 1
It's all conjecture though, when it all boils down to it.
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 21, 2024 17:06:58 GMT 1
It's all conjecture though, when it all boils down to it. I wasnt guessing, only going on what the club and its board have told me
|
|
|
Post by martinshrew on Mar 21, 2024 17:17:52 GMT 1
Last time I checked Jayne wasn't on the board, though her after her meteoric rise from working on the Riverside I wouldn't put it past her 😂
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 21, 2024 17:27:54 GMT 1
It's all conjecture though, when it all boils down to it. I wasnt guessing, only going on what the club and its board have told me
|
|
|
Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 21, 2024 17:48:44 GMT 1
Not sure I agree - after all one Rekeil Pyke may be surplus to Grimsby Requirements and PH signed him to go there..... One day you will have to buy me a beer and explain your last line. Firstly and most importantly, Pyke shouldn't be anywhere near the football league, and his record everywhere he's been suggest that, yet we gave him a three year deal on £2,000 a week; utterly gobsmacked, he must've partied for a week when he got a three year out of us! He looks to have 14 league goals in 167 league games. Anyway, he's insignificant now and wasn't the question in hand ... Regarding the chairman's ambition/mismanagement of the club: Safe pair of hands:We're constantly reminded how the chairman is the safest pair of hands, we run a tight ship, without him we'd a Bury, or a Chester or Hereford etc. The debacle with Caldwell... I appreciate the figure is subject to rumour; allegedly £750,000 has gone walkies/been squandered under Caldwell. The chairman may well be kicking himself, be gutted etc, but it's on his watch that this has happened, how are we meant to believe the club is secure with him at the helm? Would we simply be a Bury without him, I can't see that? His record with senior appointments is woeful with Caldwell, Bickerton and others *allegedly* robbing us blind, again do we just take on board the club is safe and put this down to bad luck? Ambition:Most town fans will tell you the club lacks ambition, it's just how far up the scale they are. Various things point to this. I believe we'll be the longest serving League One club after this season, yet because of what happened last year on the chairman's watch, we're meant to accept that staying up is our only ambition and target? What's the target next year, or is it to just stay up again? How can Stevenage come up on crowds averaging 2,500 less than ours, still be 1,500 less than ours now and keep hold of a recognised lower league striker and be in and around the play-offs all season in their first season? Leyton Orient are comfortably top half in their first season also, with Northampton fighting out for mid-table and already safe. I appreciate that Carlisle are bottom, but we know the problems there until the new owners have come in, which looks too late. We're the lowest scorers in the EFL, we haven't won back to back league games in something like 55 games and many of our summer signings, some that we paid fees for (despite being skint?) can't get near the match day squad. It just feels after nearly a decade at this level that we've almost regressed, we've lacked ambition and we're in a worse place than we were 10 years ago despite putting almost 1,000 fans on the average gate. Hopefully the appointment of Liam is a step in the right direction with some young ideas about the place. The above is just my opinion, some will say I'm wrong and I don't mind that at all, it's just my feelings. I did say I'd reply, I'm sure I've missed plenty but it just sums up how I feel 👍 Right well, lots to unpack there. Let's assume we were put in a difficult position last spring, accounts are out soon. That means that this year is a transition from that regime to the way forward. Ambition in a transition year is there, relies on everything working. To be fair that is true of most years. Next year, the squad will change, as you rightly point out on contract lengths, some will come back (Bennett and Winchester did last year despite not being in contract). When it comes to ambition, even BC would say we need x points as our first target to stay up - I remember him doing that on Radio more than once at he start of the season. I don't think it was expected that the loan players, who make or break a season in many cases, would be so riddled with injuries, or that GN would be not starting for another year. So that curtailed how well we could do, not from lack of ambition, but from deployment of resources in to personnel who through no fault of their own could not perform for us. There is nothing anyone could have done about that. Over time, with well documented issues around tactics/injuries/individuals and so on, we are ending the season where we are, but not through lack of ambition, we have been signing free agents (because you can do that outside of transfer windows) who can make a difference (Pierre, Price) when they are fit and available. The thing is that no matter what anyone does administratively, the football side is not affected directly, and indeed once they cross the line to the pitch it is all on the players, the admin is irrelevant. As far as I am aware everyone on the non-football side is working hard, and the football season has been hit by torpedos from all directions, from the past, financially, new issues, new injuries, issues by the dozen. So next year we will start with ambition I have no doubt, having had a summer of recruitment, and a manager with a track record. Then if the loans work, the contracted players work and are as fit as they should be we will do well. Only three clubs go up, so logically 18 clubs will be disappointed, three more will be disappointed with play offs. In terms of clubs coming up and doing well, a settled team with a fixed way of playing were they are familiar with each other can do well (Ipswich did it in Champs this year, Wednesday not so much). I went to the Stevenage game and it was difficult for sure on that size of pitch with that approach. If we are 8 seasons in League one, and were an average team , how many times should be have been in the play offs - once or twice? How many times mid table - probably 4 or 5, how many times bobbling near relegation, once or twice? Anyway - In terms of ambition I don't think we are not trying, we have PH back and a freer hand at recruitment this summer, so ambition for next year is surely there and achievable? Just hoping to avoid torpedos along the way! Personally I woudl like a wider pitch and attacking football but hey what do I know. Liam is a great signing as you say, Jayne is magnificent as ever, We all know how good the hospitality staff are, ticket office are, stewards, finance team seem to be doing well, so we have all the planks in place for a great move forward, with a proper CEO, and ambition off the pitch, On the pitch has huge potential next year, and I for one am lookng forward to it. I could address your other points, but will do so on a separate post as I am danger of having a whole tab to myself at this rate :-)
|
|
|
Post by martinshrew on Mar 21, 2024 17:56:43 GMT 1
Firstly and most importantly, Pyke shouldn't be anywhere near the football league, and his record everywhere he's been suggest that, yet we gave him a three year deal on £2,000 a week; utterly gobsmacked, he must've partied for a week when he got a three year out of us! He looks to have 14 league goals in 167 league games. Anyway, he's insignificant now and wasn't the question in hand ... Regarding the chairman's ambition/mismanagement of the club: Safe pair of hands:We're constantly reminded how the chairman is the safest pair of hands, we run a tight ship, without him we'd a Bury, or a Chester or Hereford etc. The debacle with Caldwell... I appreciate the figure is subject to rumour; allegedly £750,000 has gone walkies/been squandered under Caldwell. The chairman may well be kicking himself, be gutted etc, but it's on his watch that this has happened, how are we meant to believe the club is secure with him at the helm? Would we simply be a Bury without him, I can't see that? His record with senior appointments is woeful with Caldwell, Bickerton and others *allegedly* robbing us blind, again do we just take on board the club is safe and put this down to bad luck? Ambition:Most town fans will tell you the club lacks ambition, it's just how far up the scale they are. Various things point to this. I believe we'll be the longest serving League One club after this season, yet because of what happened last year on the chairman's watch, we're meant to accept that staying up is our only ambition and target? What's the target next year, or is it to just stay up again? How can Stevenage come up on crowds averaging 2,500 less than ours, still be 1,500 less than ours now and keep hold of a recognised lower league striker and be in and around the play-offs all season in their first season? Leyton Orient are comfortably top half in their first season also, with Northampton fighting out for mid-table and already safe. I appreciate that Carlisle are bottom, but we know the problems there until the new owners have come in, which looks too late. We're the lowest scorers in the EFL, we haven't won back to back league games in something like 55 games and many of our summer signings, some that we paid fees for (despite being skint?) can't get near the match day squad. It just feels after nearly a decade at this level that we've almost regressed, we've lacked ambition and we're in a worse place than we were 10 years ago despite putting almost 1,000 fans on the average gate. Hopefully the appointment of Liam is a step in the right direction with some young ideas about the place. The above is just my opinion, some will say I'm wrong and I don't mind that at all, it's just my feelings. I did say I'd reply, I'm sure I've missed plenty but it just sums up how I feel 👍 Right well, lots to unpack there. Let's assume we were put in a difficult position last spring, accounts are out soon. That means that this year is a transition from that regime to the way forward. Ambition in a transition year is there, relies on everything working. To be fair that is true of most years. Next year, the squad will change, as you rightly point out on contract lengths, some will come back (Bennett and Winchester did last year despite not being in contract). When it comes to ambition, even BC would say we need x points as our first target to stay up - I remember him doing that on Radio more than once at he start of the season. I don't think it was expected that the loan players, who make or break a season in many cases, would be so riddled with injuries, or that GN would be not starting for another year. So that curtailed how well we could do, not from lack of ambition, but from deployment of resources in to personnel who through no fault of their own could not perform for us. There is nothing anyone could have done about that. Over time, with well documented issues around tactics/injuries/individuals and so on, we are ending the season where we are, but not through lack of ambition, we have been signing free agents (because you can do that outside of transfer windows) who can make a difference (Pierre, Price) when they are fit and available. The thing is that no matter what anyone does administratively, the football side is not affected directly, and indeed once they cross the line to the pitch it is all on the players, the admin is irrelevant. As far as I am aware everyone on the non-football side is working hard, and the football season has been hit by torpedos from all directions, from the past, financially, new issues, new injuries, issues by the dozen. So next year we will start with ambition I have no doubt, having had a summer of recruitment, and a manager with a track record. Then if the loans work, the contracted players work and are as fit as they should be we will do well. Only three clubs go up, so logically 18 clubs will be disappointed, three more will be disappointed with play offs. In terms of clubs coming up and doing well, a settled team with a fixed way of playing were they are familiar with each other can do well (Ipswich did it in Champs this year, Wednesday not so much). I went to the Stevenage game and it was difficult for sure on that size of pitch with that approach. If we are 8 seasons in League one, and were an average team , how many times should be have been in the play offs - once or twice? How many times mid table - probably 4 or 5, how many times bobbling near relegation, once or twice? Anyway - In terms of ambition I don't think we are not trying, we have PH back and a freer hand at recruitment this summer, so ambition for next year is surely there and achievable? Just hoping to avoid torpedos along the way! Personally I woudl like a wider pitch and attacking football but hey what do I know. Liam is a great signing as you say, Jayne is magnificent as ever, We all know how good the hospitality staff are, ticket office are, stewards, finance team seem to be doing well, so we have all the planks in place for a great move forward, with a proper CEO, and ambition off the pitch, On the pitch has huge potential next year, and I for one am lookng forward to it. I could address your other points, but will do so on a separate post as I am danger of having a whole tab to myself at this rate :-) Just to reiterate, practically nobody EXPECTS top 2 or play offs, absolutely not. I think the expectation after almost a decade is to be settled in mid-table, minimal/no talk of relegation and the odd rare flirt with the top 10, that's naturally our historical position I'd say. To have an expectation to "just stay up" is wrong, but as you say, maybe required this season. Let's see what next season brings 👍
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 21, 2024 17:57:19 GMT 1
Firstly and most importantly, Pyke shouldn't be anywhere near the football league, and his record everywhere he's been suggest that, yet we gave him a three year deal on £2,000 a week; utterly gobsmacked, he must've partied for a week when he got a three year out of us! He looks to have 14 league goals in 167 league games. Anyway, he's insignificant now and wasn't the question in hand ... Regarding the chairman's ambition/mismanagement of the club: Safe pair of hands:We're constantly reminded how the chairman is the safest pair of hands, we run a tight ship, without him we'd a Bury, or a Chester or Hereford etc. The debacle with Caldwell... I appreciate the figure is subject to rumour; allegedly £750,000 has gone walkies/been squandered under Caldwell. The chairman may well be kicking himself, be gutted etc, but it's on his watch that this has happened, how are we meant to believe the club is secure with him at the helm? Would we simply be a Bury without him, I can't see that? His record with senior appointments is woeful with Caldwell, Bickerton and others *allegedly* robbing us blind, again do we just take on board the club is safe and put this down to bad luck? Ambition:Most town fans will tell you the club lacks ambition, it's just how far up the scale they are. Various things point to this. I believe we'll be the longest serving League One club after this season, yet because of what happened last year on the chairman's watch, we're meant to accept that staying up is our only ambition and target? What's the target next year, or is it to just stay up again? How can Stevenage come up on crowds averaging 2,500 less than ours, still be 1,500 less than ours now and keep hold of a recognised lower league striker and be in and around the play-offs all season in their first season? Leyton Orient are comfortably top half in their first season also, with Northampton fighting out for mid-table and already safe. I appreciate that Carlisle are bottom, but we know the problems there until the new owners have come in, which looks too late. We're the lowest scorers in the EFL, we haven't won back to back league games in something like 55 games and many of our summer signings, some that we paid fees for (despite being skint?) can't get near the match day squad. It just feels after nearly a decade at this level that we've almost regressed, we've lacked ambition and we're in a worse place than we were 10 years ago despite putting almost 1,000 fans on the average gate. Hopefully the appointment of Liam is a step in the right direction with some young ideas about the place. The above is just my opinion, some will say I'm wrong and I don't mind that at all, it's just my feelings. I did say I'd reply, I'm sure I've missed plenty but it just sums up how I feel 👍 Right well, lots to unpack there. Let's assume we were put in a difficult position last spring, accounts are out soon. That means that this year is a transition from that regime to the way forward. Ambition in a transition year is there, relies on everything working. To be fair that is true of most years. Next year, the squad will change, as you rightly point out on contract lengths, some will come back (Bennett and Winchester did last year despite not being in contract). When it comes to ambition, even BC would say we need x points as our first target to stay up - I remember him doing that on Radio more than once at he start of the season. I don't think it was expected that the loan players, who make or break a season in many cases, would be so riddled with injuries, or that GN would be not starting for another year. So that curtailed how well we could do, not from lack of ambition, but from deployment of resources in to personnel who through no fault of their own could not perform for us. There is nothing anyone could have done about that. Over time, with well documented issues around tactics/injuries/individuals and so on, we are ending the season where we are, but not through lack of ambition, we have been signing free agents (because you can do that outside of transfer windows) who can make a difference (Pierre, Price) when they are fit and available. The thing is that no matter what anyone does administratively, the football side is not affected directly, and indeed once they cross the line to the pitch it is all on the players, the admin is irrelevant. As far as I am aware everyone on the non-football side is working hard, and the football season has been hit by torpedos from all directions, from the past, financially, new issues, new injuries, issues by the dozen. So next year we will start with ambition I have no doubt, having had a summer of recruitment, and a manager with a track record. Then if the loans work, the contracted players work and are as fit as they should be we will do well. Only three clubs go up, so logically 18 clubs will be disappointed, three more will be disappointed with play offs. In terms of clubs coming up and doing well, a settled team with a fixed way of playing were they are familiar with each other can do well (Ipswich did it in Champs this year, Wednesday not so much). I went to the Stevenage game and it was difficult for sure on that size of pitch with that approach. If we are 8 seasons in League one, and were an average team , how many times should be have been in the play offs - once or twice? How many times mid table - probably 4 or 5, how many times bobbling near relegation, once or twice? Anyway - In terms of ambition I don't think we are not trying, we have PH back and a freer hand at recruitment this summer, so ambition for next year is surely there and achievable? Just hoping to avoid torpedos along the way! Personally I woudl like a wider pitch and attacking football but hey what do I know. Liam is a great signing as you say, Jayne is magnificent as ever, We all know how good the hospitality staff are, ticket office are, stewards, finance team seem to be doing well, so we have all the planks in place for a great move forward, with a proper CEO, and ambition off the pitch, On the pitch has huge potential next year, and I for one am lookng forward to it. I could address your other points, but will do so on a separate post as I am danger of having a whole tab to myself at this rate :-) I can only agree with every word, if anything we should be admiring the way our club/board have not only been forced into a transition they didn't want or expect but are riding it out well , I know some people dont want to accept the truth and make their own up but a lot of clubs would not have been able to handle this and would be in a complete mess by now heading in only one direction, well done town
|
|
|
Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 23, 2024 14:16:47 GMT 1
Our Max started in New Zealand’s international friendly in Cairo last night, subbed after 69 minutes.
NZ eventually lost 1-0.
|
|
|
Post by servernaside on Mar 23, 2024 14:53:43 GMT 1
I once watched a World Cup qualifying match live in 2006 between NZ (Oceana) and I can’t remember the other nation (probably from the Asian group). In fact I have tried to erase all memory of the dreadful match…but do remember the 0-0 scoreline. Perhaps Max (or his Dad) was playing.
|
|