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Post by Scarecrow on Sept 16, 2023 17:12:43 GMT 1
Askey 2.0.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 16, 2023 18:10:57 GMT 1
Call it now. Bring in a manager who can choose his own formation. There are three other abysmal teams in this league, it’s not too late Steady on ffs . OK we didn’t win or even get a point but how many games have we played . Let’s get a new Manager , he struggles and blames the squad he’s inherited and then what , get rid and get a new Manager . Don’t panic , we will improve and survive . What Taylor needs now is our support not shouts of” Get Rid “. Just calm down a bit . Good shout. Thought we looked ok today till the 1st goal went in. Trouble is we never looked like scoring in all that time. The forwards have got to be given much better service. Rovers whilst not looking much better showed us how to score in what had been up till then a tight game. Still not overly worried about going down but we do need to improve and create some chances.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 16, 2023 18:47:09 GMT 1
PAAAAANNIICCCCCCC
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Post by vladimir on Sept 16, 2023 19:00:12 GMT 1
Not sure about this. Askey bought in players like Norburn, Laurent and Docherty of genuine quality in midfield who could take a hold of games and score goals. Can't say the same of the current recruitment team. I feel for Taylor, the recruitment has so far shown to he highly average. How long did Moore say for us to give him before judgement? Because through one window it seems lacking.
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Post by camdenshrew on Sept 16, 2023 19:11:30 GMT 1
Not sure about this. Askey bought in players like Norburn, Laurent and Docherty of genuine quality in midfield who could take a hold of games and score goals. Can't say the same of the current recruitment team. I feel for Taylor, the recruitment has so far shown to he highly average. How long did Moore say for us to give him before judgement? Because through one window it seems lacking. Moore actually said he didn't want to be judged on what happened on Saturday and Tuesday. Incredible.
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Post by DiglisShrew on Sept 16, 2023 20:01:42 GMT 1
Not sure about this. Askey bought in players like Norburn, Laurent and Docherty of genuine quality in midfield who could take a hold of games and score goals. Can't say the same of the current recruitment team. I feel for Taylor, the recruitment has so far shown to he highly average. How long did Moore say for us to give him before judgement? Because through one window it seems lacking. Moore actually said he didn't want to be judged on what happened on Saturday and Tuesday. Incredible. Yes like a skilled politician he never mentioned what he should be judged on 🤔
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Sept 16, 2023 20:08:04 GMT 1
My concern is that the 3 league games that we have won where against teams currently placed 22nd,23rd and 24th
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Post by salop81 on Sept 16, 2023 20:38:27 GMT 1
My concern is that the 3 league games that we have won where against teams currently placed 22nd,23rd and 24th …and they weren’t convincing wins either..! Would snap your hand off for 5th bottom atm..!!
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Sept 16, 2023 21:11:45 GMT 1
I think we'll just avoid going down 🤞🤞
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Post by belfastshrew on Sept 16, 2023 22:23:11 GMT 1
My concern is that the 3 league games that we have won where against teams currently placed 22nd,23rd and 24th At least we did win them. Imagine if we hadn't!
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Post by ProudSalopian on Sept 17, 2023 7:13:10 GMT 1
I'm as hacked off as anyone after that performance but it's been 7 games and we are 15th, to sack Taylor would be ridiculous.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 17, 2023 10:28:20 GMT 1
My concern is that the 3 league games that we have won where against teams currently placed 22nd,23rd and 24th I'm never concerned about winning games my concern would be had we not won those games, but we did
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 17, 2023 10:40:31 GMT 1
I'm as hacked off as anyone after that performance but it's been 7 games and we are 15th, to sack Taylor would be ridiculous. I agree - but I can also understand why the pressure is mounting, our style of football is statistically the worst in the country currently, so when results go down the pan too, it’s an awful mix
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 17, 2023 10:48:16 GMT 1
I'm as hacked off as anyone after that performance but it's been 7 games and we are 15th, to sack Taylor would be ridiculous. I agree - but I can also understand why the pressure is mounting, our style of football is statistically the worst in the country currently, so when results go down the pan too, it’s an awful mix Quite right as well. If we were playing a nice brand of football and you could see improvements week on week you wouldn't mind, you could see the greater goal on the horizon, but it's worse than anything I've seen in a long* long time. We've not even got the basics right, most players can't last anything over 60 minutes. With the rules now you need players who are as fit as a butchers dog, the average game is 100+ minutes now.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 17, 2023 10:54:55 GMT 1
the pressure has been mounting, since MAY the knives have been eagerly sharpened ready for a narrow defeat like yesterday
sad but true
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 17, 2023 11:03:05 GMT 1
the pressure has been mounting, since MAY the knives have been eagerly sharpened ready for a narrow defeat like yesterday sad but true Pilch, that isn't true. It's your narrative that you've been pushing, and I think you've convinced yourself it's true. We all want town to win, we all want the new model to be a success, but the early signs aren't encouraging. The stats are worse, the style of play is worse, the in game management is worse. I hope it comes good and we bring through young lads and make a fortune, but as it stands I'm very worried and more worried than any point in the last decade.
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 17, 2023 11:05:44 GMT 1
the pressure has been mounting, since MAY the knives have been eagerly sharpened ready for a narrow defeat like yesterday sad but true Pilch, that isn't true. It's your narrative that you've been pushing, and I think you've convinced yourself it's true. We all want town to win, we all want the new model to be a success, but the early signs aren't encouraging. The stats are worse, the style of play is worse, the in game management is worse. I hope it comes good and we bring through young lads and make a fortune, but as it stands I'm very worried and more worried than any point in the last decade. Spot on again, I (and I’m sure everyone) would have loved nothing more than for Taylor to have got us off to a great start. It just hasn’t happened, so of course it’ll get called out. That’s football
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Post by Pilch on Sept 17, 2023 11:13:26 GMT 1
we got 4 points from the last 10 games of the previous manager
I'm just thankful we are not that bad even though he left us in a hole
I'm looking forward to the next game, Brighton at home
cant wait and its a double bonus as I'll get to avoid the champions league on tv too
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 17, 2023 11:31:26 GMT 1
18th place end of season will do for me if it's achieved with an improvement in flair and entertainment and the young players coming into their own. Hopefully there's enough teams already looking like relegation fodder to stop us getting into that mire.
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 17, 2023 11:32:51 GMT 1
Matty Taylor needs giving an equal amount of time that the others have had over the years..... personally, a few tweaks in the formation will help him a lot, and fitness levels need to be upped too....... as I said, there's enough backroom staff there, to surely work it out.think I'll pop down to sundorne to have a look!!!👍😉😉
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Post by Mortgagehound on Sept 17, 2023 12:29:23 GMT 1
We don’t want another re-run of a Mr Askey situation, where the manager is driven out before he gets started.
We need to back Mr T to the hilt even though some may feel he isn’t up to the job
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 17, 2023 12:35:14 GMT 1
We don’t want another re-run of a Mr Askey situation, where the manager is driven out before he gets started. We need to back Mr T to the hilt even though some may feel he isn’t up to the job Taylor is Head Coach not Manager
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Post by barrynic on Sept 17, 2023 12:37:31 GMT 1
We don’t want another re-run of a Mr Askey situation, where the manager is driven out before he gets started. We need to back Mr T to the hilt even though some may feel he isn’t up to the job Disagree ....the head coach is out of his depth.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 17, 2023 12:37:54 GMT 1
I’ve said before but the difference with Taylor to past managers is that he isn’t actually manager - he’s head coach. So it’s unclear how much influence he has on signings or even tactics (Micky Moore decided we were going to play 3-5-2 before Taylor had even been appointed, like WTF?!), therefore all we have to go on is what we see on a Saturday afternoon and Tuesday night, so no surprise some are already questioning if he’s any good or not.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 17, 2023 12:44:36 GMT 1
We don’t want another re-run of a Mr Askey situation, where the manager is driven out before he gets started. We need to back Mr T to the hilt even though some may feel he isn’t up to the job Taylor is Head Coach not Manager yes its so misleading, manager , head coach and all that, I keep foolishly calling my Dyson a hoover too
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Post by Pilch on Sept 17, 2023 12:45:10 GMT 1
We don’t want another re-run of a Mr Askey situation, where the manager is driven out before he gets started. We need to back Mr T to the hilt even though some may feel he isn’t up to the job isn't it too early to be calling for B. A. Baracus ?
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Post by akpaakpost on Sept 17, 2023 12:48:35 GMT 1
Whilst the problem isn’t Taylor, we need to get through this season and if performances don’t drastically improve, calling for his head and getting a manager in who’s an experienced 3-5-2 expert is the best solution for settling any issues at the club. We can’t get rid of the owner or MM, there’s no point protesting about it, unfortunately MT is the person who will get the blame and the sack for issues that aren’t all his fault, but it’s the only way things will improve for this season.
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Sept 17, 2023 13:11:37 GMT 1
My concern is that the 3 league games that we have won where against teams currently placed 22nd,23rd and 24th we usually get beaten by the bottom teams
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 17, 2023 13:25:26 GMT 1
My concern is that the 3 league games that we have won where against teams currently placed 22nd,23rd and 24th we usually get beaten by the bottom teams That’s been disproven many times on here over recent seasons
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Post by edgmond on Sept 17, 2023 13:40:31 GMT 1
If we had Thorpe and Nurse(or Shipley), who knows how much better we would look playing 3-5-2?
The fact remains, if Bennett is now up to speed and Fleming is any good, then we may be able to stick to the preferred formation and begin to pick up points whilst waiting for the first choice players to return from injury.
Long term this might be better than trying something completely different.
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