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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 12, 2023 9:13:59 GMT 1
It's not quite panic stations but it's obvious why fans are concerned. The general consensus is Marosi is going so that's him, Leahy and Pennington we have lost from last season, add in the loans of Phillips, Moore, Saydee & Street then that's a good chunk of the team/squad gone. If we lose some of Bayliss, Shipley or Dunkley too then I dread to think the state of this board (and Shrewsbury Facebook/Twitter).
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 12, 2023 9:22:20 GMT 1
I’ve never felt this before in supporting since the early 90s, but we’re going down. We’ve got a head coach who has failed in a lower division, and is only here because he’ll somehow accept being told what formation to play. We’ve got a chairman with an unmatched ego who falls out with every senior appointment he ever makes. We’ve got a Director of Football who failed as a manager at Barrow. Our captain has seen this first hand and has gone to Wycombe Wanderers. We’re going down. Good god, get a grip. Talk about melodramatic. Why are football fans like this? It’s bizarre. Give the new management a chance, and at least wait to see who we bring in before succumbing to relegation in early July. We’ve only lost Leahy and Pennington. Two good players who’ve made sideways moves, but hardly the end of the world. I agree that there is definitely an overreaction from some on here, but I have to say that it is the very fact that these players have made apparent SIDEWAYS moves which is worrying a lot of us. No, I do not believe that we will be relegated, for the perfectly good reasons already enunciate elsewhere, but it might get a bit "hairy"!
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Post by mattmw on Jul 12, 2023 9:23:30 GMT 1
If we loose Ships...Marosi and Bayliss then worry...as it is we will finish in 18th place. I guess you have heard those rumours too then? Fully expect these three to leave over the coming weeks too
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2023 9:38:20 GMT 1
we've not won a single game since these new guys came in , get rid 🤡🤡
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 9:47:48 GMT 1
How long do we give a first team coach/DOF? for me its until Christmas, nobody can recruit until then, look at the players recruited see the results and see if there is any light at the end of the tunnel.
If we do go down is it time we decide the new system has failed?
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2023 9:49:58 GMT 1
what we need to do is what we should have done back in 2020 , follow the light and go where it takes us , i think we may have been in a stronger place now
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Jul 12, 2023 11:05:09 GMT 1
Don't forget Wigan,reading and Cheltenham are in a worse situation than us.....
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 12, 2023 11:21:47 GMT 1
what we need to do is what we should have done back in 2020 , follow the light and go where it takes us , i think we may have been in a stronger place now What does 'follow the light and go where it takes us' mean? Have you been reading Roland's astrology books? Joking aisde, what do you think we should have done in 2020?
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Jul 12, 2023 11:34:01 GMT 1
I think being honest if Marosi goes and we use Burgoyne as the replacement then yes we will go down. Apart from that the squad as it stands is capable of staying up quite comfortably I'd say.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 11:39:24 GMT 1
I think being honest if Marosi goes and we use Burgoyne as the replacement then yes we will go down. Apart from that the squad as it stands is capable of staying up quite comfortably I'd say. I'd happily sell Marosi, but only at £500k minimum. We can bring in a young, hungry keeper from the Premier League. Bolton one last year, he's just got to Burnley for £19m and won the Euro under 21s trophy.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2023 11:51:00 GMT 1
i think he might be worth around the same as leahy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 12:07:27 GMT 1
I think being honest if Marosi goes and we use Burgoyne as the replacement then yes we will go down. Apart from that the squad as it stands is capable of staying up quite comfortably I'd say. I'd happily sell Marosi, but only at £500k minimum. We can bring in a young, hungry keeper from the Premier League. Bolton one last year, he's just got to Burnley for £19m and won the Euro under 21s trophy. Think Marosi at 500k is a bit expensive as he's in the last year of his contract. More 200k to 250k for a keeper who is in his prime and has 5 years + still in him. I don't want to lose him but if needs must your right lets look at hungry keepers from higher as there is a lot of talented keepers in the U23's
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 12:21:27 GMT 1
The depressing thing is that all we are talking about are players leaving, and quality ones at that.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 12, 2023 12:35:15 GMT 1
How long do we give a first team coach/DOF? for me its until Christmas, nobody can recruit until then, look at the players recruited see the results and see if there is any light at the end of the tunnel. If we do go down is it time we decide the new system has failed? Simple answer is we can’t afford to pay anymore failures off (5 in 5 years). Any discontent has to be directed directly at Roland, the time has come……….if it doesn’t work out of course which is likely looking at his track record.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 12, 2023 12:36:13 GMT 1
We will almost certainly get relegated sooner or later. 1 in 6 of the clubs in League One will be relegated and to be honest we’ve done extremely well to remain for 9 seasons now, is it? This is not pessimism just realism, and as a club with a budget in the lower half of club’s budgets in the division, we should expect our position to usually match the budget.
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 12, 2023 12:39:43 GMT 1
A combination of pleading poverty, tightening the purse strings, and lacking courage and ambition? Is this situation an inevitable consequence of not just recent decisions, but of allowing things to drift since the Hurst season?
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 12, 2023 12:43:33 GMT 1
what we need to do is what we should have done back in 2020 , follow the light and go where it takes us , i think we may have been in a stronger place now What does 'follow the light and go where it takes us' mean? Have you been reading Roland's astrology books? Joking aisde, what do you think we should have done in 2020? Think he’s got the date wrong, it was 2018 when Roland panicked and sacked Askey cos a few chanted ‘you don’t know what you’re doing. 2020 must have been the demise of Ricketts and Roland getting his long term target Mr Cotterill…..two more mistakes….. Now we’re supposed to be excited with a DOF from Cheltenham, and unemployed Head Coach and the DOFs mate as his assistant. Hopefully Roland knows what his doing. 🫣 🧚♀️🧚🧚♂️
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2023 13:14:31 GMT 1
What does 'follow the light and go where it takes us' mean? Have you been reading Roland's astrology books? Joking aisde, what do you think we should have done in 2020? Think he’s got the date wrong, it was 2018 when Roland panicked and sacked Askey cos a few chanted ‘you don’t know what you’re doing. 2020 must have been the demise of Ricketts and Roland getting his long term target Mr Cotterill…..two more mistakes….. Now we’re supposed to be excited with a DOF from Cheltenham, and unemployed Head Coach and the DOFs mate as his assistant. Hopefully Roland knows what his doing. 🫣 🧚♀️🧚🧚♂️if only rickets hadn't had some poor refereeing decisions , bad luck with injuries and maybe if he'd had a bigger budget 🤡
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 13:21:10 GMT 1
If only he had appointed an experienced number 2 to support him?
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 13:45:08 GMT 1
Think he’s got the date wrong, it was 2018 when Roland panicked and sacked Askey cos a few chanted ‘you don’t know what you’re doing. 2020 must have been the demise of Ricketts and Roland getting his long term target Mr Cotterill…..two more mistakes….. Now we’re supposed to be excited with a DOF from Cheltenham, and unemployed Head Coach and the DOFs mate as his assistant. Hopefully Roland knows what his doing. 🫣 🧚♀️🧚🧚♂️if only rickets hadn't had some poor refereeing decisions , bad luck with injuries and maybe if he'd had a bigger budget 🤡 You can usually judge a player or manager on their next move, Ricketts next move after us and since then tells you everything. Askey on the other hand bounced back, has been generally successful albeit a bit lower than us, but there's signs of a good manager there. The disgraceful sacking of Askey was the turning point, especially when we replaced him with worse.
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Post by supermac11 on Jul 12, 2023 13:53:16 GMT 1
Never got the sense that Askey really wanted to be here. He'd been at Macc forever, no FL experience. Whilst he was on a hiding to nothing following Hurst I don't think he was the right guy for the job. Was there a rumour that some of the players complained to Roland about training methods (or the lack of)?
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Post by wakemanender on Jul 12, 2023 13:59:36 GMT 1
Obviously a great shame that we have lost our best two players from last season in Pennington and Leahy but hopefully we will be regaining two of our best players from the previous season in Udoh and Nurse so really cant see us being any worse off and with the quality already in the squad plus two or three new additions I really cant see us finishing any lower in the league than last season. Much too much negativity on this board before a ball has even been kicked. Roland is taking the club down a new route after having his fingers burned by SC. 100% support from us shouldnt be too much to ask. I am sure SC will be sitting at home willing us to fail. Lets not join him. We are not a bottom four club and if Danny comes back with anything like the form he was in before being injured I expect us to be comfortable in mid table.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 14:20:54 GMT 1
Obviously a great shame that we have lost our best two players from last season in Pennington and Leahy but hopefully we will be regaining two of our best players from the previous season in Udoh and Nurse so really cant see us being any worse off and with the quality already in the squad plus two or three new additions I really cant see us finishing any lower in the league than last season. Much too much negativity on this board before a ball has even been kicked. Roland is taking the club down a new route after having his fingers burned by SC. 100% support from us shouldnt be too much to ask. I am sure SC will be sitting at home willing us to fail. Lets not join him. We are not a bottom four club and if Danny comes back with anything like the form he was in before being injured I expect us to be comfortable in mid table. Disagree, I think his fingers were burnt by Brian. Yet another senior appointment of Roland's that's gone wrong. SC is old school, he'd wish us well, I have no doubts of that.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 12, 2023 14:27:38 GMT 1
Think he’s got the date wrong, it was 2018 when Roland panicked and sacked Askey cos a few chanted ‘you don’t know what you’re doing. 2020 must have been the demise of Ricketts and Roland getting his long term target Mr Cotterill…..two more mistakes….. Now we’re supposed to be excited with a DOF from Cheltenham, and unemployed Head Coach and the DOFs mate as his assistant. Hopefully Roland knows what his doing. 🫣 🧚♀️🧚🧚♂️if only rickets hadn't had some poor refereeing decisions , bad luck with injuries and maybe if he'd had a bigger budget 🤡 And if Askey hadn’t been prematurely sacked we’d never have found out 😂
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 12, 2023 14:29:29 GMT 1
Obviously a great shame that we have lost our best two players from last season in Pennington and Leahy but hopefully we will be regaining two of our best players from the previous season in Udoh and Nurse so really cant see us being any worse off and with the quality already in the squad plus two or three new additions I really cant see us finishing any lower in the league than last season. Much too much negativity on this board before a ball has even been kicked. Roland is taking the club down a new route after having his fingers burned by SC. 100% support from us shouldnt be too much to ask. I am sure SC will be sitting at home willing us to fail. Lets not join him. We are not a bottom four club and if Danny comes back with anything like the form he was in before being injured I expect us to be comfortable in mid table. 🥃 half full 👍
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 12, 2023 14:45:32 GMT 1
I’ve never felt this before in supporting since the early 90s, but we’re going down. We’ve got a head coach who has failed in a lower division, and is only here because he’ll somehow accept being told what formation to play. We’ve got a chairman with an unmatched ego who falls out with every senior appointment he ever makes. We’ve got a Director of Football who failed as a manager at Barrow. Our captain has seen this first hand and has gone to Wycombe Wanderers. We’re going down.
If it stays like this we are, especially as Marosi is almost certainly gone / going too.
BUT it does depend on replacements.
Leahy was on a fair wedge and we got a transfer fee - the same will be with Marosi, it all depends on replacements.
It looked rough when pennington went but Feeney looks good.
Who else do they have in the pipeline?
We are not down yet but it could be a long and grim season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 14:57:18 GMT 1
Obviously a great shame that we have lost our best two players from last season in Pennington and Leahy but hopefully we will be regaining two of our best players from the previous season in Udoh and Nurse so really cant see us being any worse off and with the quality already in the squad plus two or three new additions I really cant see us finishing any lower in the league than last season. Much too much negativity on this board before a ball has even been kicked. Roland is taking the club down a new route after having his fingers burned by SC. 100% support from us shouldnt be too much to ask. I am sure SC will be sitting at home willing us to fail. Lets not join him. We are not a bottom four club and if Danny comes back with anything like the form he was in before being injured I expect us to be comfortable in mid table. Supporting the club to the hilt is fine BUT it works both ways and to me the proof of the pudding will be in the coming weeks when hopefully we see some new players in. As for the SC comment, I don't think he's of that mindset, at all.
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Post by abcdef on Jul 12, 2023 15:57:13 GMT 1
Obviously a great shame that we have lost our best two players from last season in Pennington and Leahy but hopefully we will be regaining two of our best players from the previous season in Udoh and Nurse so really cant see us being any worse off and with the quality already in the squad plus two or three new additions I really cant see us finishing any lower in the league than last season. Much too much negativity on this board before a ball has even been kicked. Roland is taking the club down a new route after having his fingers burned by SC. 100% support from us shouldnt be too much to ask. I am sure SC will be sitting at home willing us to fail. Lets not join him. We are not a bottom four club and if Danny comes back with anything like the form he was in before being injured I expect us to be comfortable in mid table. Don't talk sense, it never goes well on here
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Post by barrynic on Jul 12, 2023 16:50:20 GMT 1
It will all look better when we get 4 or 5 loanees in and another 4 contracted players.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jul 12, 2023 16:53:49 GMT 1
Just a friendly question to all the doom mongers. If you were looking to take this manager's/coaching job and then purely out of interest decided to take a look at the social media views on being appointed. How would you feel? Every negative comment is a pin being stuck in. I know I wouldn't bother especially as the naysayers haven't seen any evidence to warrant that opinion. I will be one of the first to question his appointment whe results go consistently wrong
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