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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 8:48:12 GMT 1
I bet we’d have beaten them at table tennis 🏓
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 7, 2022 9:35:00 GMT 1
Pyke to be the next Udoh and turn it around. Looked class today. all i remember from pyke today was one run down the line , it was a decent run but he was struggling to keep it in play because the pitch is so narrow this pitch is bizarre because da costa today was great with the ball at his feet and almost created a goal or 2 trouble is we want to bang the ball for him to challenge in the air , once out of many he won such a ball and it bobbled harmlessly to their keeper poor setup poor plan lack of quality meant we turned a win into a defeat Oh dear, too many more performances like that and we'll be heading for the "p**s Poor Planning Promotes p**s Poor Performance. Prior Preparation and Planning Prevents p**s Poor Performance. Positive Pre-Planning Prevents p**s Poor Performance" post .
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 7, 2022 9:46:06 GMT 1
Keeper to blame for the handbags. You have to accept getting roughed up on crosses, more so if you show that it is annoying you. The ref didn’t seem to have a clue who did what thus giving the Lino the opportunity to wield a bit of power. Luckily Flanagan’s two yellows will just result in him missing the Carlisle game whereas a straight red would have also included Wycombe and Derby. Someone at the back of 14 made me feel like reacting by constantly screaming abuse at Shipley. Welcome to Shrewsbury Jordan you will need to get used to that, you don’t get the customary 10 game settling in period here.
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Post by lancsman on Aug 7, 2022 10:02:14 GMT 1
So….. we seem to have a midfield that cannot score and we are lacking one striker. It’s sad that two games in and we are back to same old same old. We have the players but something is basically wrong………coaching ?
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 10:17:37 GMT 1
So….. we seem to have a midfield that cannot score and we are lacking one striker. It’s sad that two games in and we are back to same old same old. We have the players but something is basically wrong………coaching ? maybe because one of them is a centre back, I notice yesterday at least 3 times when in a decent position his touch/pass/cross was that typical of a defender 2 games in , away to potential whipping boys & home to accy Stanley we play with 7 defensive players bowman now has a total of 39 touches this season which sums up either his positioning or lack or service, and out of those 39 touches he's lost possession 16 times he did however manage 2 shots on target yesterday and missed a sitter , so perhaps there is hope at least
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 10:21:39 GMT 1
I bet we’d have beaten them at table tennis 🏓 especially when we narrow the pitch
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 7, 2022 10:32:36 GMT 1
Yep, have to agree, the size of that pitch got to me, as soon as I saw it.a beautiful field of lush green turf---- and they narrow the pitch!!!!! 🙈omg, you ain't gonna see much entertaining football on that this season.surely our pitch should of been widened to accommodate our 5/6 quality signings---- who should be able to pass the ball quite comfortably.early days yet I know, hope to see some improvement after 8/10 games
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Aug 7, 2022 10:51:15 GMT 1
If marosi smacked the lad in the face, should of been a red. If he didn’t the lad should of been booked for simulation.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Aug 7, 2022 10:56:07 GMT 1
Heard on the verdict that the ref had the groundkeeper measure the penalty area after the game. What was all that about - surely he should have requested that prior to kickoff?
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Post by secretshrew on Aug 7, 2022 11:46:27 GMT 1
My thoughts: Positives - I like the body language of Dunkley. He looks like he’s up for it and isn’t shy of telling teammates what to do and where to be. - We looked in control with with 11, with Accrington only forcing one save from Marosi. - Da Costa looked sharp going forward. - Taylor Moore reminded me of Gary Patterson. Lots of endeavour, he’s something going forward and put in some hefty challenges to win us the ball back. Also looked part clumsy (see his re-warm up coming out for 2nd half?!) - Shippley & Bayliss showed small glimpses of why we bought them. - Looked pretty solid at the back even with 10. - Udoh is nearly back to full fitness.
Need to improve - Marosi’s reaction ultimately cost us the game and led to Flanagan being red carded. Yes their player hand him around the neck but at his level it’s such small margins. - Bowman’s finishing. He’s the type that needs 4/5 attempts to score 1 and we’re really not going to get that many every game. - Lack of options up front. If Udoh gets a long term injury or signs elsewhere we’ll be struggling for goals.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 12:06:52 GMT 1
Heard on the verdict that the ref had the groundkeeper measure the penalty area after the game. What was all that about - surely he should have requested that prior to kickoff? he may have come across suspicions during the game, can't honestly think we would have got the size wrong, at least not intentionally
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 7, 2022 12:08:27 GMT 1
I thought at the time we looked like a team of strangers who were playing their fust game together. I spoke to quite a few after the match who the view that we were Juan game short in the friendly department. The cancelled game in Spain was mentioned by some and I have to agree it didn't help our preparations. There were some clearly frustrated players out there. We'll get get better. As for Accy, you know what you're going to get from a Coleman team. They're very hardworking and when they haven't got the ball, they'll hound you constantly and close you down. Leigh flung himself dramatically on the floor in the penalty area without being touched. It's hard being a lone striker, but Bowman should have done better on at least two occasions. The once when he was through, I was waiting to watch him lob the keeper as the ball was bouncing, but he hesitated and delayed and the ball was blocked. Perhaps he needs to watch Ella Toone in the Ladies Euros, she knows how it's done. "I thought at the time we looked like a team of strangers who were playing their fust game together" that is exactly how i felt which does not say much for the pre season or the training if that is how they look . but we only had 3 pre season games so i wonder how long they will take to work out what they are supposed to do. the midfield was just chaotic and we had a few occasssion were the defence looked in chaos as well.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 7, 2022 12:10:07 GMT 1
all i remember from pyke today was one run down the line , it was a decent run but he was struggling to keep it in play because the pitch is so narrow this pitch is bizarre because da costa today was great with the ball at his feet and almost created a goal or 2 trouble is we want to bang the ball for him to challenge in the air , once out of many he won such a ball and it bobbled harmlessly to their keeper poor setup poor plan lack of quality meant we turned a win into a defeat Oh dear, too many more performances like that and we'll be heading for the "p**s Poor Planning Promotes p**s Poor Performance. Prior Preparation and Planning Prevents p**s Poor Performance. Positive Pre-Planning Prevents p**s Poor Performance" post . it feels like we are having it now and some of this has to be SC and his choaching stafff . let us by the time we get to 10 and 12 games in they look like they know what they are doing.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 7, 2022 12:26:09 GMT 1
Tough run of games now...i dont expect us to win until Oxford or Exeter in mid-Sept now. Maybe we could sneak a win against Bristol Rovers...
Maybe its typical Town...beat all the big boys, lose to all the little boys haha
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 7, 2022 12:26:53 GMT 1
For me the game was decided by the two keepers. The Accrington keeper was my man of the match but our keeper cost us the match with his silly tantram being responsible for the sending off. We have a very experienced manager so it is very difficult to have a go at him but we are off once again to a slow start of season just as we did last year. Has he got it right pre season. Are we a couple of games light in respect of pre season friendlies. I am sure he must know what he is doing with the pitch downsizing but I cant see the reason for it personally and does nothing for entertainment. The games seem very stop start. Perhaps I am just a very miserable old git brought up on wingers and the old fashioned Grant Holt type centre forward with little knowledge of modern present day tactics but for me I enjoyed the type of football played at the old Gay Meadow so much more. We had a keeper, two full backs, a centre half, a left half, a right half, two wingers, a centre forward, an inside right and an inside left. A simple game with players on contracts living locally. Reading this back there is no perhaps about it. I am a miserable old git who just doesnt understand why the game has got so complicated.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 7, 2022 13:25:50 GMT 1
No you are right wakeman, football is a simple game, think turner played a 4-4-2, as did hurst, if I remember right, Mark Wright always crops up in my mind, playing as a winger, scoring and making a lot of goals, same as Ben Davis did, and asamoah.we haven't got anybody like that now, just playing with wing backs, who don't really get forward that much.personally I think you would get more success playing a 4-4-2, rather than this 5-3-2,or whatever it is--- and a bigger pitch to suite!!!!👍🤷♂️
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 13:46:50 GMT 1
Hopefully our forward options will be improved when O'Brien is finally fit to play.
In the meantime let's hope Dan has his scoring boots on, we really need him starting.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 7, 2022 13:59:28 GMT 1
For me the game was decided by the two keepers. The Accrington keeper was my man of the match but our keeper cost us the match with his silly tantram being responsible for the sending off. We have a very experienced manager so it is very difficult to have a go at him but we are off once again to a slow start of season just as we did last year. Has he got it right pre season. Are we a couple of games light in respect of pre season friendlies. I am sure he must know what he is doing with the pitch downsizing but I cant see the reason for it personally and does nothing for entertainment. The games seem very stop start. Perhaps I am just a very miserable old git brought up on wingers and the old fashioned Grant Holt type centre forward with little knowledge of modern present day tactics but for me I enjoyed the type of football played at the old Gay Meadow so much more. We had a keeper, two full backs, a centre half, a left half, a right half, two wingers, a centre forward, an inside right and an inside left. A simple game with players on contracts living locally. Reading this back there is no perhaps about it. I am a miserable old git who just doesnt understand why the game has got so complicated. Simplified for your, we had 5 defenders, numbers 2 to 6 and 5 attackers, numbers 7 to 11. Even then the two wing half’s and the two inside forwards were the equivalent of a four man midfield, some of whom would protect the other centre half (usually No.6) whereas No. 10 was playing off the shoulder of the centre forward. The Alf Ramsey era changed this forever in this country with a 4-4-2 system of wingless wonders. More modern styles, possibly used more across continental Europe rely on a sole striker who needs to have pace and be a clinical finisher. Much as I appreciate the work that Ryan Bowman gets through, he is blessed with neither of the above attributes.[
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 7, 2022 15:58:06 GMT 1
the two games were you would hope we would get somthing we ended up with 1 point. as for the league we have Wycombe , Derby and Ipswich .we dont tend to do well against wycombe or Ipswich and Derby is an unknown. we have to do somthing about the midfield and let us hope Udoh is fit for the next game.with yet another poor start .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 16:37:09 GMT 1
the two games were you would hope we would get somthing we ended up with 1 point. as for the league we have Wycombe , Derby and Ipswich .we dont tend to do well against wycombe or Ipswich and Derby is an unknown. we have to do somthing about the midfield and let us hope Udoh is fit for the next game.with yet another poor start . Poor start same as last season. Our squad wasn’t ready then, eventually once we had the numbers and they gelled together we were a solid team, but it time and by then, when we started playing well and beating the likes of Morecambe at home comfortably, the season was gone anyway. All I’m hearing now is about the squad not being ready but don’t worry, we’ll bring in a couple new faces and they’ll gel, it’s like we write off the first 10 games of the season with poor preparation, lack of signings, late signings and lack of pre season games.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 16:42:10 GMT 1
Yep, have to agree, the size of that pitch got to me, as soon as I saw it.a beautiful field of lush green turf---- and they narrow the pitch!!!!! 🙈omg, you ain't gonna see much entertaining football on that this season.surely our pitch should of been widened to accommodate our 5/6 quality signings---- who should be able to pass the ball quite comfortably.early days yet I know, hope to see some improvement after 8/10 games This happened befor with maybe Mellon? Didn’t end well.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 16:49:24 GMT 1
If marosi smacked the lad in the face, should of been a red. If he didn’t the lad should of been booked for simulation. Marosi put his arm out and their was unintentional contact with the player so the player had every right to go down but luckily it was within a yard of the ref who was talking to Marosi at the time and saw no intention 👍 I actually think the ref got it right, Flannigan threw their player to the ground = 🟨 then verbally abused the ref right in his face =🟨 =🟥
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 7, 2022 17:04:44 GMT 1
If marosi smacked the lad in the face, should of been a red. If he didn’t the lad should of been booked for simulation. Marosi put his arm out and their was unintentional contact with the player so the player had every right to go down but luckily it was within a yard of the ref who was talking to Marosi at the time and saw no intention 👍 I actually think the ref got it right, Flannigan threw their player to the ground = 🟨 then verbally abused the ref right in his face =🟨 =🟥 Is their player out of Intensive Care yet? I thought he had been shot. I was also shocked at how many went down with head related injuries, which turned out to be a dislocated eyelash. During the 70s they would have been referred to as Wimps.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 17:09:46 GMT 1
Marosi put his arm out and their was unintentional contact with the player so the player had every right to go down but luckily it was within a yard of the ref who was talking to Marosi at the time and saw no intention 👍 I actually think the ref got it right, Flannigan threw their player to the ground = 🟨 then verbally abused the ref right in his face =🟨 =🟥 Is their player out of Intensive Care yet? I thought he had been shot. I was also shocked at how many went down with head related injuries, which turned out to be a dislocated eyelash. During the 70s they would have been referred to as Wimps. We’re an I’ll disciplined bunch, they made the most of it as we would 👍 agree about the change in this ‘contact sport’ Ill remind you next time one of our players over reacts after a tackle part if the game unfortunately…..
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Post by secretshrew on Aug 7, 2022 17:16:47 GMT 1
On a slight tangent, do we think Marosi has been instructed to take the goal kicks as slow as he does? I think someone mentioned it last week, but I found it infuriating. Do we really need that long to set up/recover? It easily takes him a minute to take each kick. Painful. I thought football was meant to entertain us! How naïve of me.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 7, 2022 17:20:34 GMT 1
On a slight tangent, do we think Marosi has been instructed to take the goal kicks as slow as he does? I think someone mentioned it last week, but I found it infuriating. Do we really need that long to set up/recover? It easily takes him a minute to take each kick. Painful. I thought football was meant to entertain us! How naïve of me. Football is at it’s most eye catching and effective when played at a high pace, as we showed with the mive of the game down the right in the first half, which brought a fine save from their keeper.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 17:26:51 GMT 1
Marosi put his arm out and their was unintentional contact with the player so the player had every right to go down but luckily it was within a yard of the ref who was talking to Marosi at the time and saw no intention 👍 I actually think the ref got it right, Flannigan threw their player to the ground = 🟨 then verbally abused the ref right in his face =🟨 =🟥 Is their player out of Intensive Care yet? I thought he had been shot. I was also shocked at how many went down with head related injuries, which turned out to be a dislocated eyelash. During the 70s they would have been referred to as Wimps. that's due to our manager , who thinks he can recreate his distant late 80s crazy gang style of hoof the ball and chase it and act like a bunch of thugs and get away with it wasn't pretty back then but now it is pretty, pretty damn ugly and pretty stupid happened all of last season and already up and running with the red card count and lucky we didn't end up have 2 sent off for a challenge that didn't even involve an accy player and as i mentioned earlier in the confusion after the red card we wasted time and had players dropping like flies to allow us to regain our shape
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 7, 2022 17:34:47 GMT 1
Is their player out of Intensive Care yet? I thought he had been shot. I was also shocked at how many went down with head related injuries, which turned out to be a dislocated eyelash. During the 70s they would have been referred to as Wimps. We’re an I’ll disciplined bunch, they made the most of it as we would 👍 agree about the change in this ‘contact sport’ Ill remind you next time one of our players over reacts after a tackle part if the game unfortunately….. No need to remind me as I hate our players rolling around feigning injury, just as much as the opposition. This is not just a recent thing, it came with the influx of foreign players at the top levelThis has been going on for years in Italy and moreso South America. It is no more down to our current manager than any other EFL manager.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 7, 2022 17:56:44 GMT 1
Is their player out of Intensive Care yet? I thought he had been shot. I was also shocked at how many went down with head related injuries, which turned out to be a dislocated eyelash. During the 70s they would have been referred to as Wimps. that's due to our manager , who thinks he can recreate his distant late 80s crazy gang style of hoof the ball and chase it and act like a bunch of thugs and get away with it. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous? Do you really honestly believe that, or is it another wind up?
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 7, 2022 18:04:52 GMT 1
Just to even the goal keepers up a bit was it really necessary for their goal keeper to waste time by having a drink before he their goal kicks? I didn’t think Marosi was any slower than their goal keeper.
Doesn’t make it right but they were both as bad.
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