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Post by Northwest Shrew on Aug 6, 2022 17:14:25 GMT 1
Iâm sorry, but to go into the second week of the season and have this bench:- Burgoyne (Conference at best back up GK) Craig (Youth) Barlow (Youth) Pyke (Shouldnât be a professional footballer as we all know) Udoh (Injured) Bloxham (Played a fair bit last year, still young but is evidently not up to League 1 standard yet) Caton (Youth) 6th August, had three months to sort the squad out, thatâs the bench we have. Nothing short of criminal, especially after last seasons lessons not learnt. Truly is sack worthy imo. Yes itâs only the second game but weâre not daft. I can tell straight away that itâs another boring, pathetic year of being in the bottom half of League 1. Seriously, what is the point in even bothering to turn up if the best we can expect as supporters is 12th place. Cotterill needs to get his finger out of his arse and start bringing in players not only fit squad depth, but players good enough to start. Do I trust him to do this. Absolutely bloody not. Onto our 2-0 defeat at Adams Park next week, hey. Add to that Shipley injured and trying to play on, and Flanagan now banned
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Post by footballfan123 on Aug 6, 2022 17:18:44 GMT 1
I actually think we were the better team for most of the match. If it wasnt for the red we could have won or got a point. The ref was terrible though, don't understand how it was a red but no penalty. Accrington seemed to dive lots too.
So some positives and some negatives. Hopefully a win in the cup on Tuesday can give us some confidence
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 17:28:11 GMT 1
I actually think we were the better team for most of the match. If it wasnt for the red we could have won or got a point. The ref was terrible though, don't understand how it was a red but no penalty. Accrington seemed to dive lots too. So some positives and some negatives. Hopefully a win in the cup on Tuesday can give us some confidence play had stopped , i actually liked what the ref did and have been on about it for years to be brave enough to dish out 2 yellows from 2 incident shame it had to be a town player when it happened marosi was the instigator and i thought he was going to get a red , i think he actually tumbled over our own player so the ref rightly played on but the lino waved for a foul which the ref gave
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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 6, 2022 17:29:09 GMT 1
2 yellows on BBC sport
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 6, 2022 17:30:32 GMT 1
Infuriating game.
I think Accrington were better than us, although we probably had the better chances. They pressed high knowing that weâre no threat in behind, and played out from the back easily since we have no wingers and one up top.
We were pretty passive and dull to watch. Lots of direct balls up to Bowman who was totally ineffective. Not particularly good in the air, and certainly not quick.
Poor from Marosi and Flanagan for the red card. Donât react like that and the team probably doesnât lose that game. Ultimately, get a man sent off and a savvy side like Accrington will probably beat you.
DaCosta had a good game, and Pyke looked pretty sharp to be fair to him. Crap other than that.
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Post by darkshrew on Aug 6, 2022 17:37:59 GMT 1
My first impression of seeing the team is that we have some decent individuals but they are not a team. Lack of pre-season / training again ?
Do not understand how such a solid looking back line can panic and flap like that.
Subs came on so late that they didn't have the chance to make an impact.
Couple of odd reffing decisions. No idea what happened in the sending off.
Accrington are going to be a bottom 6 club. Losing at home to them has to be a worry. Their numbers 4 and 9 looked good.
Marosi - thought it was him who was going to be sent off in that scuffle, was ok Nurse - good as usual Pennington - good game Dunkley - thought he looked solid Flanagan - thought he was good - look forward to seeing what he did to get sent off Dacosta - clear MoM for me - exciting on the ball Leahy - quieter than normal but solid Moore - some good tackles, a bit patchy but looks like he could be good on his day Shipley - looks a really good player - cannot understand why we do not play through him Bayliss - looks completely unfit so cannot really tell Bowman - got onto the Dacosta cross well but otherwise quiet and ran out of puff well before being subbed.
Udoh - came on late and didnt get the ball Pyke - I thought he did well when he came on - showed good commitment, won the ball and got into decent positions Bloxham - came on very late and didnt really get into it
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Post by FloreatShrew on Aug 6, 2022 17:38:03 GMT 1
Pyke to be the next Udoh and turn it around. Looked class today.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 6, 2022 17:43:28 GMT 1
We werenât really in that 2nd half, really disappointing. Probably had the best couple of chances in the match but we didnât take them. Referee was very poor but was correct in the sending off as it was a stupid thing to do. Thought Dunkley, Bayliss and Dacosta had good games.
Thatâs just about it really, the negativity will continue on no doubt. Letâs just hope and keep our fingers and toes crossed we make them signings for next week.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 17:52:36 GMT 1
Pyke to be the next Udoh and turn it around. Looked class today. all i remember from pyke today was one run down the line , it was a decent run but he was struggling to keep it in play because the pitch is so narrow this pitch is bizarre because da costa today was great with the ball at his feet and almost created a goal or 2 trouble is we want to bang the ball for him to challenge in the air , once out of many he won such a ball and it bobbled harmlessly to their keeper poor setup poor plan lack of quality meant we turned a win into a defeat
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Post by shrewdshrewssupporter on Aug 6, 2022 17:52:44 GMT 1
Did Accrington have a real chance? We weren't particularly good but kept them at arms length, while countering and looking dangerous with 11 men. That in itself I think is a reasonable tactic that will win us matches; only the sending off stopped us controlling the game and continuing to create chances.
Writing the season off is fairly dramatic, an extra couple of players are needed but it didn't cost us today.
Anybody else think Shipley didn't look fit?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 6, 2022 17:53:59 GMT 1
Saw some comments people thought the "football was boring" didn't seem boring to me when Julien Dacosta was bombing down the right wing. That move with Bowman was delightful. 10 men changed it.
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 6, 2022 17:55:49 GMT 1
Pyke to be the next Udoh and turn it around. Looked class today. all i remember from pyke today was one run down the line , it was a decent run but he was struggling to keep it in play because the pitch is so narrow this pitch is bizarre because da costa today was great with the ball at his feet and almost created a goal or 2 trouble is we want to bang the ball for him to challenge in the air , once out of many he won such a ball and it bobbled harmlessly to their keeper poor setup poor plan lack of quality meant we turned a win into a defeat Agree about the long balls into DaCosta, very strange. There was one at the end where Bloxham stood a cross up towards the back post and DaCosta completely misjudged it and just sprinted underneath it straight into the back of the defender. Goal kick.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 6, 2022 17:59:10 GMT 1
Weak bench,no O'brien.Seems like we've signed a crock. Sorry, but doesn't that belong on the "Negativity" thread? Sorry Armchair old chap, but this thread has now, probably quite rightly, become a negativity thread. Another season, another first home game defeaat to a team we "should" be beating.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 17:59:22 GMT 1
i think the small squad will be a source of debate for some time , meanwhile Accrington has a squad of 37 i thought they only had a tiny budget ?
but our treadbare bench, injurys and a red card were the things that i voiced concern about and today just confirmed them. i apreaciate that when evryone gets there head round the new turnstil system it will speed up . the ref and lino were poor the two worst decision were an acrinton player actually triped over his own boots and got a foul and the throw in that lead to the goal should have been ours as it deflected off an acrington player.
i apreacte we played a different system due to inurys but, first twenty minutes we sat deep and there was a huge gp between the midfield and bowman. Accrington looked hte better team, our midfield looked chaotic and we only had one plan kick it long, we were not closing down and defenders were not tracking players, not sure what they were doing in pre season but we looked very rusty and we loked more like a bunch of strangers who had turned up for a game than a team.
we slowly improved but the distribution was poor we had thre chances in the first half Bowman had two and scully the other we should have had at least one of them, the only player with any spark was Dacosta who forced two saves in the second half. then Marosi and Flangan lose the plot when the red card went up i thought it was the keeper. we played well in spells but there is a lot of work needed on the training ground , Acrington players were falling down all over the place and after they scored a number suddenly had head injurys. frustrating and disapointing firts home game . we do we have to cover for Flanagan ? we loked very rusty today we can only get better!
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 18:03:03 GMT 1
i think the small squad will be a source of debate for some time , meanwhile Accrington has a squad of 37 i thought they only had a tiny budget ? but our treadbare bench, injurys and a red card were the things that i voiced concern about and today just confirmed them. i apreaciate that when evryone gets there head round the new turnstil system it will speed up . the ref and lino were poor the two worst decision were an acrinton player actually triped over hos own boots and got a fould and the throw in that lead to the goal should have been ours as it deflected off an acrington player. i apreacte we played a different system due to inurys but, first twenty minutes we sat deep and there was a huge gp between the midfield and bowman. Accrington looked hte better team, our midfield looked chaotic and we only had one plan kick it long, we were not closing down and defenders were not tracking players, not sure what they were doing in pre season but we looked very rusty and we loked more like a bunch of strangers who had turned up for a game than a team. we slowly improved but the distribution was poor we had thre chances in the first half Bowman had two and scully the other we should have had at least one of them, the only player with any spark was Dacosta who forced two saves in the second half. then Marosi and Flangan lose the plot when the red card went up i thought it was the keeper. we played well in spells but there is a lot of work needed on the training ground , Acrington players were falling down all over the place and after they scored a number suddenly had head injurys. frustrating and disapointing firts home game . we do we have to cover for Flanagan ? we loked very rusty today we can only get better! he will only miss the carlisle game i think , 2 yellows is only a 1 game ban
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 18:03:52 GMT 1
that pitch looked very narrow what is the thinking behind such a narrow pitch ?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 18:04:09 GMT 1
i think the small squad will be a source of debate for some time , meanwhile Accrington has a squad of 37 i thought they only had a tiny budget ? but our treadbare bench, injurys and a red card were the things that i voiced concern about and today just confirmed them. i apreaciate that when evryone gets there head round the new turnstil system it will speed up . the ref and lino were poor the two worst decision were an acrinton player actually triped over hos own boots and got a fould and the throw in that lead to the goal should have been ours as it deflected off an acrington player. i apreacte we played a different system due to inurys but, first twenty minutes we sat deep and there was a huge gp between the midfield and bowman. Accrington looked hte better team, our midfield looked chaotic and we only had one plan kick it long, we were not closing down and defenders were not tracking players, not sure what they were doing in pre season but we looked very rusty and we loked more like a bunch of strangers who had turned up for a game than a team. we slowly improved but the distribution was poor we had thre chances in the first half Bowman had two and scully the other we should have had at least one of them, the only player with any spark was Dacosta who forced two saves in the second half. then Marosi and Flangan lose the plot when the red card went up i thought it was the keeper. we played well in spells but there is a lot of work needed on the training ground , Acrington players were falling down all over the place and after they scored a number suddenly had head injurys. frustrating and disapointing firts home game . we do we have to cover for Flanagan ? we loked very rusty today we can only get better! he will only miss the carlisle game i think , 2 yellows is only a 1 game ban Thanks
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 6, 2022 18:05:29 GMT 1
Amazed to see someone praising Shipley today. Opinions eh! I thought he was very quiet/ineffective and, well, knackered.
I feel Town deserved to win to be honest. Accrington started off the better team but ran out of steam midway through the first half. We werenât always pretty on the eye but managed to create for Bowman x2 and also Da Costa. Stanley didnât really do much besides the headed goal and Iâm not sure they would have been putting as much pressure on if it was still 11 vs 11. Even 10 vs 11 I didnât feel they were particularly piling it on.
All in all, we just canât finish our chances but we donât look incapable of creating chances. Not yet anyway, however the next three games may be different altogether.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 6, 2022 18:06:24 GMT 1
Your entitled to an opinion sure, but itâs nonsense to form that opinion 2 games in. If heâs played 3 games by Christmas you might have a point. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion - I didn't suggest otherwise - but on the more appropriate thread! In fairness Armchair the negativity threads been locked (too negative) so this is the place to give an opinion on people who didnât make the team due to injury đ
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 18:08:18 GMT 1
that pitch looked very narrow what is the thinking behind such a narrow pitch ? it's what sides with no quality do , i had thought we might use it for nurse to launch some long throws ( our biggest threat ) but no once did that happen i give up on your question to be honest đ
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 6, 2022 18:11:29 GMT 1
Sorry, but doesn't that belong on the "Negativity" thread? Sorry Armchair old chap, but this thread has now, probably quite rightly, become a negativity thread. Ah well, as I cannot attend games, I am not qualified to comment on the match itself, but as one who saw his first game in 1958 (I think), I shall certainly not be either positive nor negative after just two games - like most long-standing Town fans, the thing we most cling onto is HOPE, and only that....
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 6, 2022 18:12:43 GMT 1
massive queues just before kick off , i think they had to open the bay doors in the end , you can't make it up , my card took ages to scan The ST I arranged to pick up from the collection booth wasnât their, despite Martin saying âIâm printing it off nowâ on Thursday, the guy behind me exactly the sameâŚ. Finally got tickets from reception after refusing to join the massive queue they phoned Martin who printed it off again and a nice lady gave it to me. Not the ST just a ticket so got to go through it again. Got to turnstiles that werenât working so just showed ticket to another nice lady. Teething troubles đŹ
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Post by darkshrew on Aug 6, 2022 18:14:11 GMT 1
that pitch looked very narrow what is the thinking behind such a narrow pitch ? it's what sides with no quality do , i had thought we might use it for nurse to launch some long throws ( our biggest threat ) but no once did that happen i give up on your question to be honest đ He did one at the end of the second half and it caused them problems. Why are we keeping it a secret ?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 6, 2022 18:18:30 GMT 1
massive queues just before kick off , i think they had to open the bay doors in the end , you can't make it up , my card took ages to scan The ST I arranged to pick up from the collection booth wasnât their, despite Martin saying âIâm printing it off nowâ on Thursday, the guy behind me exactly the sameâŚ. Finally got tickets from reception after refusing to join the massive queue they phoned Martin who printed it off again and a nice lady gave it to me. Not the ST just a ticket so got to go through it again. Got to turnstiles that werenât working so just showed ticket to another nice lady. Teething troubles đŹ Thank goodness for the nice ladies - can't beat the human touch.
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 6, 2022 18:21:10 GMT 1
Narrow pitch is pretty sensible for a side that doesnât play with wingers. Our shape today was extremely narrow, and Accringtonâs full backs and wide players had so much time on the ball.
Canât help but feel DaCosta would be a real threat with a bit more space though.
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Post by blueandamber on Aug 6, 2022 18:25:45 GMT 1
Are we winning that without the red? We seemed well on top. I felt we would. We were looking good for a draw at the very least on the first 55 mins.
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Post by freshprinceofbellevu on Aug 6, 2022 18:27:56 GMT 1
that pitch looked very narrow what is the thinking behind such a narrow pitch ? I was told it was because we donât play wingers cottril wanted a narrower pitch but that could be rubbish.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 18:28:32 GMT 1
Narrow pitch is pretty sensible for a side that doesnât play with wingers. Our shape today was extremely narrow, and Accringtonâs full backs and wide players had so much time on the ball. Canât help but feel DaCosta would be a real threat with a bit more space though. da costa is another ogbeta for me , would make a great winger but can't defend , most of our side is square pegs in round holes
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 18:30:26 GMT 1
that pitch looked very narrow what is the thinking behind such a narrow pitch ? it's what sides with no quality do , i had thought we might use it for nurse to launch some long throws ( our biggest threat ) but no once did that happen i give up on your question to be honest đ well it has been a hot day i hope you can put your feet up and enjoy a nice cold beer.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 18:31:56 GMT 1
massive queues just before kick off , i think they had to open the bay doors in the end , you can't make it up , my card took ages to scan The ST I arranged to pick up from the collection booth wasnât their, despite Martin saying âIâm printing it off nowâ on Thursday, the guy behind me exactly the sameâŚ. Finally got tickets from reception after refusing to join the massive queue they phoned Martin who printed it off again and a nice lady gave it to me. Not the ST just a ticket so got to go through it again. Got to  turnstiles that werenât working so just showed ticket to another nice lady. Teething troubles đŹ my ticket was like one of those reduced items at the supermarket that wouldn't scan , the 'nice lady' was giving me some motivation on what angle to try next , got it eventually but wow is this what it going to be like every game only getting worse as the cards fade more and more they need a reprint asap
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