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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 18:09:39 GMT 1
that's due to our manager , who thinks he can recreate his distant late 80s crazy gang style of hoof the ball and chase it and act like a bunch of thugs and get away with it. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous? Do you really honestly believe that, or is it another wind up? Definite wind up. Just don't fall for it.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 7, 2022 18:27:51 GMT 1
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous? Do you really honestly believe that, or is it another wind up? Definite wind up. Just don't fall for it. Can normally spot it miles off but I've got a horrible feeling this is genuine 😂
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 18:39:35 GMT 1
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous? Do you really honestly believe that, or is it another wind up? Definite wind up. Just don't fall for it. whatever , it's not like we've made the pitch smaller and hurl the throws into the mixer is it 😜
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 7, 2022 19:45:46 GMT 1
Tough run of games now...i dont expect us to win until Oxford or Exeter in mid-Sept now. Maybe we could sneak a win against Bristol Rovers... Maybe its typical Town...beat all the big boys, lose to all the little boys haha This is town we are talking about. I'd much rather be playing a top half team every week. I think it suits SC tactics when the opposition are more attack minded.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 7, 2022 20:51:16 GMT 1
This is town we are talking about. I'd much rather be playing a top half team every week. I think it suits SC tactics when the opposition are more attack minded. I agree. Perhaps if we had Udoh and OBrien we would have been set up to attack more in the last two matches.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 8, 2022 8:03:48 GMT 1
We’re an I’ll disciplined bunch, they made the most of it as we would 👍 agree about the change in this ‘contact sport’ Ill remind you next time one of our players over reacts after a tackle part if the game unfortunately….. No need to remind me as I hate our players rolling around feigning injury, just as much as the opposition. This is not just a recent thing, it came with the influx of foreign players at the top levelThis has been going on for years in Italy and moreso South America. It is no more down to our current manager than any other EFL manager. Ahh I agree with what your saying except the last sentence. I think a managers demeanour if reflected by his recruitment and training methods and the way the team present themselves in games…. SC comes across prickly with a short fuse.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 8:37:21 GMT 1
No need to remind me as I hate our players rolling around feigning injury, just as much as the opposition. This is not just a recent thing, it came with the influx of foreign players at the top levelThis has been going on for years in Italy and moreso South America. It is no more down to our current manager than any other EFL manager. Ahh I agree with what your saying except the last sentence. I think a managers demeanour if reflected by his recruitment and training methods and the way the team present themselves in games…. SC comes across prickly with a short fuse. Or alternatively, it could be said that to work with someone who comes across as prickly and with a short fuse you need to have the patience of a saint.
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Post by block12massive on Aug 8, 2022 8:53:10 GMT 1
Positives; Moore and Dacosta performances The much maligned Pyke when he came on at least tried to stretch the Accrington defence and force them into a couple of errors.
Negatives; Flanaghan sending off - 'harsh' perhaps but he gave the ref a decision to make. Formation looks over-engineered at times. The switch from back 3 to a 4 but always looked overrun in midfield. Bayliss looks well off it. Bowman doesn't have it in his game to play as a lone striker. Our first potential league win looks way off. Has a price of a pint always been that expensive? £4.90 for a San Miguel in the fanzone.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 8, 2022 9:26:45 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 9:33:58 GMT 1
I liked the look of Moore, especially considering the reviews from pre-season weren't great, DaCosta looks like he could be entertaining down the right but strikes me as someone who is going to get in some great positions but his final ball/shot will be hit and miss. Shipley was probably the biggest disappointment, struggled to get involved.
I know its early and I'm not panicking, but it still feels remarkably similar to last season in that lack of goals are going to be our downfall
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 8, 2022 9:37:46 GMT 1
I think both Shipley and Bayliss struggled to get involved really, same as at Morecambe. We’d rather smash long balls up to Bowman rather than play through our talented midfield, and give them some balls into feet.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 8, 2022 9:40:47 GMT 1
I'm pleased the referee saw the fungi side. I didn't find it so hilarious myself, but perhaps me and him have different idea of what constitutes a sense of humour.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 8, 2022 9:59:11 GMT 1
Me neither. He’s not there to crack jokes but to officiate efficiently. Since most of us expected Marosi to be red carded it seems he didn’t do that.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 8, 2022 10:17:29 GMT 1
I think both Shipley and Bayliss struggled to get involved really, same as at Morecambe. We’d rather smash long balls up to Bowman rather than play through our talented midfield, and give them some balls into feet. I feel sorry for the midfielders, if the ball is going straight over them it doesn't give them much chance.
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Post by secretshrew on Aug 8, 2022 10:26:24 GMT 1
I think both Shipley and Bayliss struggled to get involved really, same as at Morecambe. We’d rather smash long balls up to Bowman rather than play through our talented midfield, and give them some balls into feet. You can see after 2 games (1 in my case) that both of those players like to play with the ball at their feet. It’s when we’re at our best when we actually do that!
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 8, 2022 10:30:06 GMT 1
Ahh I agree with what your saying except the last sentence. I think a managers demeanour if reflected by his recruitment and training methods and the way the team present themselves in games…. SC comes across prickly with a short fuse. Or alternatively, it could be said that to work with someone who comes across as prickly and with a short fuse you need to have the patience of a saint. Disciplinary record both early last season and this don’t indicate that… Not that I’m judging this early in the season I started by giving an alternative view to that of, it’s the ref and opposition that are being unfair 👍
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 8, 2022 10:37:19 GMT 1
Me neither. He’s not there to crack jokes but to officiate efficiently. Since most of us expected Marosi to be red carded it seems he didn’t do that. That’s because most got it wrong, post confirms it was Flannigans poor discipline that got him sent off and the ref wasn’t amused just the fan that captured the refs words (an Accrington fan) we shouldn’t be blaming the fear he did his job. “The ref, Andy Haines, had clearly had enough of the 30-year-old when he was seen saying: "One yellow for the push, second yellow for dissent, and that one’s a red, see ya later."
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Aug 8, 2022 10:53:48 GMT 1
So all we have to show for two games is a point and a Red card.....we are only one of 7 teams in the entire 72 yet to score.....no real surprise tbh but why do I get the feeling it s the same old, same old.
Sorry to be so negative but I'm concerned already and we are only 180+ minutes into the season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 10:54:59 GMT 1
I think both Shipley and Bayliss struggled to get involved really, same as at Morecambe. We’d rather smash long balls up to Bowman rather than play through our talented midfield, and give them some balls into feet. I feel sorry for the midfielders, if the ball is going straight over them it doesn't give them much chance. I'm wondering whether the idea is we are more direct and pass it into Bowman, the idea being that he holds it up and then can lay off to the midfielders. However he struggled to hold the ball up at times so the ball gets lost and it looks like it's just an aimless hoof. But I do think the idea that we are just long ball merchants is exaggerated, we clearly are a more direct team but there's still plenty of passing, the problem is it's often sideways between midfield/defence. I think a lot of it comes down to formation/personnel, I was having a look at the BBC match reported and showed us ling up as 3-4-2-1, the 4 consisted of Dacosta, Moore, Leahy and Nurse, now they clearly aren't 4 traditional defenders but none of them are midfield playmakers either. Cotterill clearly likes playing 3 at the back and with wing backs, but he's got to make some decisions when/if players are fit - two up front? if so, which two? And if so, what does his midfield look like? If he goes one up front then it can work but you are reliant on your midfield to provide support in the final third and contribute goals.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 8, 2022 10:59:06 GMT 1
No need to remind me as I hate our players rolling around feigning injury, just as much as the opposition. This is not just a recent thing, it came with the influx of foreign players at the top levelThis has been going on for years in Italy and moreso South America. It is no more down to our current manager than any other EFL manager. Ahh I agree with what your saying except the last sentence. I think a managers demeanour if reflected by his recruitment and training methods and the way the team present themselves in games…. SC comes across prickly with a short fuse. That never did Ferguson any harm - perhaps some of the eight who have followed him should have tried that approach.
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Post by block12massive on Aug 8, 2022 11:05:44 GMT 1
The thing that worries me is we're two games in and injuries are already an issue.
If you have a squad of 25 players and ten are out then you can probably blame bad luck, when you've got 3 first team players out in a squad of 17 then it's just p*ss poor planning to be honest.
And further to the lack of creating chances, ill-discipline and at times predictable football it doesn't feel like last season ended to be honest.
I think that is the root of fans frustrations though of course it is very early and this new side needs time.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 8, 2022 11:58:30 GMT 1
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous? Do you really honestly believe that, or is it another wind up? Definite wind up. Just don't fall for it. i'm just listening to the podcast , i thought it was funny when they likened us to the crazy gang 🤫 i've reported them to the opinion police 😜
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 8, 2022 12:12:11 GMT 1
Me neither. He’s not there to crack jokes but to officiate efficiently. Since most of us expected Marosi to be red carded it seems he didn’t do that. we shouldn’t be blaming the fear he did his job. I haven't. I've blamed him for trying to be a smartarse. He could have just sent Flanagan off. No need for snidely remarks.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 12:30:52 GMT 1
we shouldn’t be blaming the fear he did his job. I haven't. I've blamed him for trying to be a smartarse. He could have just sent Flanagan off. No need for snidely remarks. A genuine grade A hard man coached by Mr Prickly would have replied as he walked off the field "See you in hospital".
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 8, 2022 12:37:53 GMT 1
The thing that worries me is we're two games in and injuries are already an issue. If you have a squad of 25 players and ten are out then you can probably blame bad luck, when you've got 3 first team players out in a squad of 17 then it's just p*ss poor planning to be honest. And further to the lack of creating chances, ill-discipline and at times predictable football it doesn't feel like last season ended to be honest. I think that is the root of fans frustrations though of course it is very early and this new side needs time. when we play any team with a decent midfield we look a team that is easy to beat our midfield is a mess and we look very predictable going forward. yet again we look to have a team that is not ready to start a season .
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 8, 2022 12:41:25 GMT 1
I haven't. I've blamed him for trying to be a smartarse. He could have just sent Flanagan off. No need for snidely remarks. A genuine grade A hard man coached by Mr Prickly would have replied as he walked off the field "See you in hospital". Some of the nice, kind, gentle blokes I played amateur football with, who were marginally short of being cycle paths, would DEFINATELY have seen the ref later if he'd have been daft enough to come out with a remark like that. Totally uncalled for.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 8, 2022 12:58:21 GMT 1
we shouldn’t be blaming the fear he did his job. I haven't. I've blamed him for trying to be a smartarse. He could have just sent Flanagan off. No need for snidely remarks. Perhaps if someone had got I your face wagging their finger abusing you you’d have found pleasure in sending him off ?
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Post by kfordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 13:24:19 GMT 1
I haven't. I've blamed him for trying to be a smartarse. He could have just sent Flanagan off. No need for snidely remarks. Perhaps if someone had got I your face wagging their finger abusing you you’d have found pleasure in sending him off ? So if finger wagging bothered him that much why not book the Accrington player who ran across to wag his finger in the refs face before Flanagan threw him to the floor ?I’m not saying Flanagan didn’t deserve the second yellow just that he could’ve booked there player as well and sent Marosi off
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Post by MartinB on Aug 8, 2022 13:29:42 GMT 1
Perhaps if someone had got I your face wagging their finger abusing you you’d have found pleasure in sending him off ? So if finger wagging bothered him that much why not book the Accrington player who ran across to wag his finger in the refs face before Flanagan threw him to the floor ?I’m not saying Flanagan didn’t deserve the second yellow just that he could’ve booked there player as well and sent Marosi off And the clear dissent by action earlier in the game by the Accrington player slamming ball down after a decision.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 8, 2022 13:31:14 GMT 1
Definite wind up. Just don't fall for it. whatever , it's not like we've made the pitch smaller and hurl the throws into the mixer is it 😜 Are they using Cambridge Uniteds old towels as well ?
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