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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 18:32:53 GMT 1
the posatives from today, the weather was lovely , i got to catch up with the season ticket holders who sit near me and it can only get better
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Post by salop27 on Aug 6, 2022 18:33:42 GMT 1
Without the red card we'd of stood a good chance of winning. Hard to see from the South Stand but if it was Bowman who missed the chance just before half-time he should be benched. Marosi at fault for the red card, pointless reaction then we give away a free header to lose the game. Of the new signings Dacosta looks good while I thought Moore got better as the game went on and was MOM. Bayliss and Shipley not so impressive. See how things go on Tuesday.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 18:34:07 GMT 1
The ST I arranged to pick up from the collection booth wasnât their, despite Martin saying âIâm printing it off nowâ on Thursday, the guy behind me exactly the sameâŚ. Finally got tickets from reception after refusing to join the massive queue they phoned Martin who printed it off again and a nice lady gave it to me. Not the ST just a ticket so got to go through it again. Got to turnstiles that werenât working so just showed ticket to another nice lady. Teething troubles đŹ my ticket was like one of those reduced items at the supermarket that wouldn't scan , the 'nice lady' was giving me some motivation on what angle to try next , got it eventually but wow is this what it going to be like every game only getting worse as the cards fade more and more they need a reprint asap till today iv never seen a new barcode that is faded clearly there is a quality control issue .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 18:36:21 GMT 1
Without the red card we'd of stood a good chance of winning. Hard to see from the South Stand but if it was Bowman who missed the chance just before half-time he should be benched. Marosi at fault for the red card, pointless reaction then we give away a free header to lose the game. Of the new signings Dacosta looks good while I thought Moore got better as the game went on and was MOM. Bayliss and Shipley not so impressive. See how things go on Tuesday. a few players looked a bit lost today but most of the team looked rusty, we had five chances on goal,Bowmn had two , scully missed the easiest one and decosta forced two saves.
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Post by freshprinceofbellevu on Aug 6, 2022 18:36:25 GMT 1
Never good to lose 1st home game of the season especially to Accrington. Realistically I donât think itâs unreasonable to expect 4 points from our opening 2 games weâve had. I thought da Costa was brilliant down the wing and the defence generally very solid. Didnt fully see the red card from south stand but he should be keeping a level head really.
I didnât think bowman was particularly bad either, missed one sitter but other than that got into the positions well enough and got a great save out of their keeper in the first half. Heâs quite clearly a striker that works better with another striker tho perhaps when OâBrien or udoh is back to full fitness weâll see a front 2.
Accrington clearly wanted it and the red card swung it there way. I thought Bayliss looked a bit lost most the game but showed promise ditto Shipley
2 more signings in the door and Iâm sure weâll be set for a riveting 17th place season and a handful of away wins. COYB
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Post by freshprinceofbellevu on Aug 6, 2022 18:40:15 GMT 1
The ST I arranged to pick up from the collection booth wasnât their, despite Martin saying âIâm printing it off nowâ on Thursday, the guy behind me exactly the sameâŚ. Finally got tickets from reception after refusing to join the massive queue they phoned Martin who printed it off again and a nice lady gave it to me. Not the ST just a ticket so got to go through it again. Got to turnstiles that werenât working so just showed ticket to another nice lady. Teething troubles đŹ my ticket was like one of those reduced items at the supermarket that wouldn't scan , the 'nice lady' was giving me some motivation on what angle to try next , got it eventually but wow is this what it going to be like every game only getting worse as the cards fade more and more they need a reprint asap Our turnstile the stewards had completely given up scanning them and we just showed the cards to the ânice lady(s)â who let us in
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2022 18:49:16 GMT 1
My first impression of seeing the team is that we have some decent individuals but they are not a team. Lack of pre-season / training again ? Do not understand how such a solid looking back line can panic and flap like that. Subs came on so late that they didn't have the chance to make an impact. Couple of odd reffing decisions. No idea what happened in the sending off. Accrington are going to be a bottom 6 club. Losing at home to them has to be a worry. Their numbers 4 and 9 looked good. Marosi - thought it was him who was going to be sent off in that scuffle, was ok Nurse - good as usual Pennington - good game Dunkley - thought he looked solid Flanagan - thought he was good - look forward to seeing what he did to get sent off Dacosta - clear MoM for me - exciting on the ball Leahy - quieter than normal but solid Moore - some good tackles, a bit patchy but looks like he could be good on his day Shipley - looks a really good player - cannot understand why we do not play through him Bayliss - looks completely unfit so cannot really tell Bowman - got onto the Dacosta cross well but otherwise quiet and ran out of puff well before being subbed. Udoh - came on late and didnt get the ball Pyke - I thought he did well when he came on - showed good commitment, won the ball and got into decent positions Bloxham - came on very late and didnt really get into it Didnât go to Morecambe or any pre season game, so I think I may have Bayliss and Shipley the wrong way around, I was coming out saying Bayliss looked good and Shipley was really quiet but youâve said the complete opposite so đ
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 6, 2022 18:57:21 GMT 1
Just to say that you canât beat ânice ladiesâ when there are difficulties!!
And also that I do not like this narrow pitch at all.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 6, 2022 19:23:38 GMT 1
Yes, deffo marosis fault, just keep your composure and get on with it.didnt get the ball down well enough and pass it, saying that, who narrowed the pitch, like playing on a postage stamp,can't get the ball on the wings, the ball goes out of play most of the time.anyway, onwards and upwards town
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Post by JohnG on Aug 6, 2022 19:26:57 GMT 1
that pitch looked very narrow what is the thinking behind such a narrow pitch ? As well as narrower, the pitch also looked shorter from block 13!!
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Post by northwestman on Aug 6, 2022 19:36:02 GMT 1
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Post by southstandviewer on Aug 6, 2022 19:38:14 GMT 1
I thought we had the better chances overall, however we were looking for flick onâs, lobs and long balls over the top. When we got it down we actually looked ok, the move in the first half where Decosta crossed first time was the the quickest and most dangerous move of the half.
Thought Dunkley dominated our box and looked as if he wanted to challenge for everything and won most balls, my MoM.
The red was keepers fault and reactions were slowly getting bigger and bigger by the them and us.
Cannot actually remember a decent chance prior to the goal for them.
Overall not totally despondent but midfield need to get it down and control the game better.
Great flags and reception for Whalley
Ticket didnât work and man fixing the reader on a dustbin in Southstand.
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Post by southstandviewer on Aug 6, 2022 19:44:41 GMT 1
Forgot to mention Pyke coming on, booed loudly by someone behind me who immediately cheered loudly when he chased the ball down twice to create attacking opportunities.
Fickle springs to mind.
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Post by chameleon on Aug 6, 2022 19:49:53 GMT 1
Forgot to mention Pyke coming on, booed loudly by someone behind me who immediately cheered loudly when he chased the ball down twice to create attacking opportunities. Fickle springs to mind. Pyke did well when he came on.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 6, 2022 19:51:55 GMT 1
yes very fortunate , which is why at the time i thought he had got the red card i did not see flanagan throw the player on the ground both equally stupid.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 20:15:16 GMT 1
i agree i said at the time he was going and was amazed when he didn't
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Post by harboroughshrew on Aug 6, 2022 20:31:07 GMT 1
Looking at the positives, Dunkley was class. Dacosta was good going forward and Pyke contributed well to give us at least four promising attacks when he came on. As for the negatives for two experienced players like Marosi and Flanagan to behave as they did after we had been awarded a free kick was disgraceful and I hope SC fines them both because it cost us the game. I can understand some negative comments because, as a fan base, we are heartily fed up with lessons not being learned from our customary slow starts to seasons. From two very winnable games we have come away with no goals, one point and one suspension. Lets hope Udoh and O'Brien get fit soon and we are not again playing catch-up come September.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Aug 6, 2022 20:41:52 GMT 1
Those on the board who badly suffer from confirmation bias âFormer players totes always score against us lolololâ must be simply astonished by Whalley not notching today.
Or will they conveniently forget this by the next time weâre due to meet a former player (i.e. next weekend, if not Tuesday) and make a similarly errant comment that â[insert name] is guaranteed to score, time to log onto Betfred lads!!â
I make that upwards of 20 consecutive former players who havenât scored against us now, a run that includes Callum Lang, Freddie Ladapo, Nathaniel Mendez-Laing and Sullay Kaikai.
The evidence suggests to me that former Shrewsbury players score no more or no less often against us than one would expect. Case closed.
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 6, 2022 20:47:45 GMT 1
Forgot to mention Pyke coming on, booed loudly by someone behind me who immediately cheered loudly when he chased the ball down twice to create attacking opportunities. Fickle springs to mind. Booing one of your own players really is pathetic. What good could possibly come from that? Whilst Pyke doesnât seem good enough for League One yet, he certainly gives 100%, and seems to have a good attitude. He should have the full support of the fans.
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Post by cmonsalop on Aug 6, 2022 20:50:04 GMT 1
Sorry Armchair old chap, but this thread has now, probably quite rightly, become a negativity thread. Ah well, as I cannot attend games, I am not qualified to comment on the match itself, but as one who saw his first game in 1958 (I think), I shall certainly not be either positive nor negative after just two games - like most long-standing Town fans, the thing we most cling onto is HOPE, and only that.... I'm guessing you must have left early, there were at least two long throws in the last 15 minutes.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 6, 2022 21:57:48 GMT 1
2nd yellow is very harsh, yes he pulled him back but its a very soft yellow. When the ref knows that soft decision will lead to a sending off you know he wants it all to be about him. In regards to the game I only saw from 25 minutes in but I though we were very good without that final piece of the puzzle. It was attack vs defence until the sending off and I would bet a lot of money Bowman hurried one of them chances. Ref was annoying. We've had worse but he feel for every dive, every "injury" and between him and his lino I think they flipped a coin to see who's throw in it was. Very frustrating day because there was only 1 winner until a moment of madness costs us. The only hope I have now is that the ref saw Marosi's actions so no retrospective can be sanctioned. Positive signs in this squad but also worrying signs of all the issues from last season are still here despite some promising signings. 1 point from 2 games against relegation battles isn't good enough. Side note Pyke showed us a very rare glimpse of his potential talent, that run from the half way line was impressive.
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Post by socrates1974 on Aug 6, 2022 22:08:51 GMT 1
Lost count of the amount of times an Accrington player went down, usually holding their head, resulting in continual stoppages to play. Whilst I appreciate some of the head 'injuries' may have been genuine it's too easy for players to feign particularly when the referee is as dreadful as he was today.
The rule where the goalkeeper can take the goal kick from wherever he wants is equally annoying. Their keeper milked it as much as possible.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 6, 2022 22:09:20 GMT 1
Forgot to mention Pyke coming on, booed loudly by someone behind me who immediately cheered loudly when he chased the ball down twice to create attacking opportunities. Fickle springs to mind. Booing one of your own players really is pathetic. What good could possibly come from that? Whilst Pyke doesnât seem good enough for League One yet, he certainly gives 100%, and seems to have a good attitude. He should have the full support of the fans. early in the first half bowman was almost 2 years clear through on goal, seconds later all he managed was to dive in studs first on the defenders Achilles taking him out of the game, maybe pyke might have done worse but I still think he deserves a game, it will be interesting to see who gets the nod on Tuesday udoh back to fitness ? bowman close links to carlisle pyke a full run bloxham not had much yet I'd like to see pyke but I think udoh might be the logical choice
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 7:41:53 GMT 1
2nd yellow is very harsh, yes he pulled him back but its a very soft yellow. When the ref knows that soft decision will lead to a sending off you know he wants it all to be about him. In regards to the game I only saw from 25 minutes in but I though we were very good without that final piece of the puzzle. It was attack vs defence until the sending off and I would bet a lot of money Bowman hurried one of them chances. Ref was annoying. We've had worse but he feel for every dive, every "injury" and between him and his lino I think they flipped a coin to see who's throw in it was. Very frustrating day because there was only 1 winner until a moment of madness costs us. The only hope I have now is that the ref saw Marosi's actions so no retrospective can be sanctioned. Positive signs in this squad but also worrying signs of all the issues from last season are still here despite some promising signings. 1 point from 2 games against relegation battles isn't good enough. Side note Pyke showed us a very rare glimpse of his potential talent, that run from the half way line was impressive. I think the first yellow was for the throwing the player to the ground then during the melee Flanagan was in the refs face inches away waving his finger and we donât know what he was saying so one for decent maybe?
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 7:47:22 GMT 1
Lost count of the amount of times an Accrington player went down, usually holding their head, resulting in continual stoppages to play. Whilst I appreciate some of the head 'injuries' may have been genuine it's too easy for players to feign particularly when the referee is as dreadful as he was today. The rule where the goalkeeper can take the goal kick from wherever he wants is equally annoying. Their keeper milked it as much as possible. How can you milk a legitimate move? We were Iâll disciplined the same as the beginning of last year, they made the most of our Iâll discipline the same as any team would including us. We lose and decide to blame the ref or opposition. Fact is they wanted it more than us and kept their heads.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 7, 2022 7:59:18 GMT 1
2nd yellow is very harsh, yes he pulled him back but its a very soft yellow. When the ref knows that soft decision will lead to a sending off you know he wants it all to be about him. In regards to the game I only saw from 25 minutes in but I though we were very good without that final piece of the puzzle. It was attack vs defence until the sending off and I would bet a lot of money Bowman hurried one of them chances. Ref was annoying. We've had worse but he feel for every dive, every "injury" and between him and his lino I think they flipped a coin to see who's throw in it was. Very frustrating day because there was only 1 winner until a moment of madness costs us. The only hope I have now is that the ref saw Marosi's actions so no retrospective can be sanctioned. Positive signs in this squad but also worrying signs of all the issues from last season are still here despite some promising signings. 1 point from 2 games against relegation battles isn't good enough. Side note Pyke showed us a very rare glimpse of his potential talent, that run from the half way line was impressive. I think the first yellow was for the throwing the player to the ground then during the melee Flanagan was in the refs face inches away waving his finger and we donât know what he was saying so one for decent maybe? It was hard to tell for me tell. If that's the case then we've been very hard done by. I appreciate refs trying to crack down on this sort of thing but surely the ref saying to Flanagan something along the lines of "I'm going to book you do you want another" would have solved all the issues.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 8:10:47 GMT 1
I think the first yellow was for the throwing the player to the ground then during the melee Flanagan was in the refs face inches away waving his finger and we donât know what he was saying so one for decent maybe? It was hard to tell for me tell. If that's the case then we've been very hard done by. I appreciate refs trying to crack down on this sort of thing but surely the ref saying to Flanagan something along the lines of "I'm going to book you do you want another" would have solved all the issues. i think we got off very lightly , they should not even have stopped play in which case they would also have had a penalty and how marosi got away with it i'll never know
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 8:16:46 GMT 1
Lost count of the amount of times an Accrington player went down, usually holding their head, resulting in continual stoppages to play. Whilst I appreciate some of the head 'injuries' may have been genuine it's too easy for players to feign particularly when the referee is as dreadful as he was today. The rule where the goalkeeper can take the goal kick from wherever he wants is equally annoying. Their keeper milked it as much as possible. let's not pretend we are angels and got cheated don't forget at 0-0 when down to 10 men one of our players stepped over the ball to allow it to run about 30 yards into the corner near block 1 , and neither ball boy moved an inch , well after about 20 secs of no one being interested except the fans one of the ball boys ambled across and half heatedly rolled it in the general direction or marosi who then took an absolute age to take the goal kick and if i'm correct one or two town players needed treatment in the following few minutes
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 8:25:34 GMT 1
I think the first yellow was for the throwing the player to the ground then during the melee Flanagan was in the refs face inches away waving his finger and we donât know what he was saying so one for decent maybe? It was hard to tell for me tell. If that's the case then we've been very hard done by. I appreciate refs trying to crack down on this sort of thing but surely the ref saying to Flanagan something along the lines of "I'm going to book you do you want another" would have solved all the issues. That depends on what was said and if he actually made contact with the refâŚ. Don't see how it could have been for the tug back it would have been a penalty? Dont think Marosi was even fouled it was our player that landed on himâŚ.only our selves to blame.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 7, 2022 8:44:49 GMT 1
I thought at the time we looked like a team of strangers who were playing their fust game together. I spoke to quite a few after the match who took the view that we were Juan game short in the friendly department. The cancelled game in Spain was mentioned by some and I have to agree it didn't help our preparations. There were some clearly frustrated players out there. We'll get get better.
As for Accy, you know what you're going to get from a Coleman team. They're very hardworking and when they haven't got the ball, they'll hound you constantly and close you down. Leigh flung himself dramatically on the floor in the penalty area without being touched.
It's hard being a lone striker, but Bowman should have done better on at least two occasions. The once when he was through, I was waiting to watch him lob the keeper as the ball was bouncing, but he hesitated and delayed and the ball was blocked. Perhaps he needs to watch Ella Toone in the Ladies Euros, she knows how it's done.
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