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Post by kenwood on Oct 25, 2022 18:43:08 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment .
If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked .
As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance .
What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff .
There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 19:32:33 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment . If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked . As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance . What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff . There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling . We also shouldn't forget dental health within the wider NHS debate. It's becoming very hard to find a dental practice that will actually take NHS patients. As a result, dental health is becoming a major problem across the country. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 25, 2022 22:09:05 GMT 1
Rumours that Braverman might be returning as Home Secretary and Raab as Justice Minister. And Williamson and Jenrick must be expecting something to be offered to them. Are you deliberately trying to ruin my afternoon ? Williamson - Minister without Portfolio (can't afford to let him be in control of anything, so just have him around to threaten any rebels). Jenrick - Minister for Immigration! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 22:16:25 GMT 1
Some of the decisions are certainly questionable/contentious, but it looks a far more capable and experienced cabinet than the one assembled by Truss. Hopefully we can see some stability and the government can now get back to governing rather than infighting.
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Post by block12massive on Oct 26, 2022 9:24:25 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment . If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked . As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance . What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff . There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling . It seems to be a recurring theme that most of your criticisms seem to be of female MP's. Why is that? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2022 10:31:14 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment . If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked . As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance . What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff . There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling . It seems to be a recurring theme that most of your criticisms seem to be of female MP's. Why is that? Maybe the quality is getting better now, but I think we have been through a time when "equality" meant that a woman got the promotion more because she was a woman than because she was the best.
Or it could just be that Liz Truss was awful no matter what sex/gender she is and she rewarded her best mate, Coffey, with a top job. Sunak has moved her on and given her a post, but then, putting his cabinet together quickly, he didn't have a lot of options - let's see how long she lasts in her new role.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 26, 2022 10:50:44 GMT 1
Sir Gavin Williamson is returning to Government, with the Rishi Sunak ally rewarded with a role in the Cabinet Office.
The former education secretary becomes a minister without portfolio in the Cabinet Office,
Twice sacked as a Cabinet minister, Williamson was seen as a key figure in the early stages of the Tory leadership campaign over the summer as Rishi Sunak sought to win over the support of MPs in his first attempt at becoming prime minister.
The new role could potentially give Sir Gavin, also a former defence secretary and chief whip, considerable influence in the heart of Government.
So that's 3 times that Williamson has been campaign manager (for May, Johnson and Sunak), 3 times he's been rewarded with Cabinet positions for his efforts, and twice he's been sacked, once for leaking information while at Defence, and for sheer ineptitude at Education.
I strongly suspect Williamson to be at the heart of some grubby deal with Braverman, whereby she agreed to switch from Johnson to Sunak very late on at what is now considered a pivotal moment in the contest. He probably promised both her and other members of the ERG that she'd be reinstated as Home Secretary if she abandoned Johnson.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 26, 2022 10:50:51 GMT 1
i hope the next leader gets rid of the health minister, whoever it may be could be facing thsi; www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/bridgnorth/2022/10/24/west-midlands-ambulance-crews-set-to-vote-on-potential-strike-action-around-pay/"Ambulance workers across Shropshire and the wider West Midlands region have today begun working on industrial action.The GMB Union is beginning the process of balloting 15,000 workers across the country, which includes the West Midlands Ambulance Service. Stuart Richards, the GMB's senior organiser in the midlands, said: "The last 12 years has seen our ambulance services crumble from the sheer neglect and lack of investment from successive Conservative Governments" I blame Corbyn. whilst not a fan of corbyn i think the nhs would have been safer in his hands and when he said he wanted to nationalise energy firms(somthing i agree with) he was ridiculed anyone laughing now |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 26, 2022 10:52:30 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment . If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked . As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance . What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff . There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling . We also shouldn't forget dental health within the wider NHS debate. It's becoming very hard to find a dental practice that will actually take NHS patients. As a result, dental health is becoming a major problem across the country. more like impssible my found one and 6 months later then have opted out |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 26, 2022 10:54:19 GMT 1
were do i start , underfunding for councils, underfunding for social care, closuer of cottage hospitals, chronic shortages of staff at care homes, a growing elderly population, a shortage of 40,000 nurses, chronic shortage of paramedics spread far to thinly and all of which leads to slow responce times and then 10 plus ambulances waiting outside of A&E. All by design so that the NHS can be criticised and private practice take over. Health Insurance anyone? im a retired nhs nurse and i agree with you especially after a conversation with my then GP about 5 years ago when he informed me that in certain areas 20% of bids had to b e awarded to private companies. |
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 26, 2022 11:00:04 GMT 1
I think we'll see a big rise in employers offering private healthcare, most job adverts in my sector now offer it as a benefit.
People are taking jobs with poor conditions now, there's too many vacancies out there, you don't need to. Power to the employee.
As with Rishi, most will give him about a week before he's the next in a long line of people "not fit to govern" etc.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Oct 26, 2022 11:45:22 GMT 1
Nice to see the pound creeping upwards, did see some people say it was due to dollar weakness but the pound was rising against the Euro as well.
Think the markets are liking Sunak's rhetoric.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 26, 2022 12:22:40 GMT 1
Sir Gavin Williamson is returning to Government, with the Rishi Sunak ally rewarded with a role in the Cabinet Office. The former education secretary becomes a minister without portfolio in the Cabinet Office, Twice sacked as a Cabinet minister, Williamson was seen as a key figure in the early stages of the Tory leadership campaign over the summer as Rishi Sunak sought to win over the support of MPs in his first attempt at becoming prime minister. The new role could potentially give Sir Gavin, also a former defence secretary and chief whip, considerable influence in the heart of Government. So that's 3 times that Williamson has been campaign manager (for May, Johnson and Sunak), 3 times he's been rewarded with Cabinet positions for his efforts, and twice he's been sacked, once for leaking information while at Defence, and for sheer ineptitude at Education. I strongly suspect Williamson to be at the heart of some grubby deal with Braverman, whereby she agreed to switch from Johnson to Sunak very late on at what is now considered a pivotal moment in the contest. He probably promised both her and other members of the ERG that she'd be reinstated as Home Secretary if she abandoned Johnson. I note that in PMQs both Starmer and Blackford agree with my analysis that some grubby deal was done between Team Sunak and Braverman. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 26, 2022 12:32:28 GMT 1
Sunak has been attempting to do a poor imitation of Johnson's rabble rousing techniques at PMQs.
Of course, like Johnson, he doesn't answer the questions, especially the one asking about the security status of Williamson.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 26, 2022 12:50:35 GMT 1
Sunak has been attempting to do a poor imitation of Johnson's rabble rousing techniques at PMQs. Of course, like Johnson, he doesn't answer the questions, especially the one asking about the security status of Williamson. The Deputy Political Editor of the BBC also pointed out that Sunak tried to adopt Johnson's techniques, and said it sounded rather familiar. |
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Post by kp on Oct 26, 2022 12:52:39 GMT 1
whilst not a fan of corbyn i think the nhs would have been safer in his hands and when he said he wanted to nationalise energy firms(somthing i agree with) he was ridiculed anyone laughing now What is it about Corbyn that you are not a fan of? After all you have just pointed to two massive issues in our country at present that he had entirely sensible policies for with the good of the people in mind. Health and Heating. We missed a massive opportunity that will not come about again in my life time unless we witness a massive economic collapse (possible). Oh well. Anyone but Corbyn. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2022 12:54:44 GMT 1
Nice to see the pound creeping upwards, did see some people say it was due to dollar weakness but the pound was rising against the Euro as well. Think the markets are liking Sunak's rhetoric. The markets are just liking Sunak - because he's not Truss  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 12:56:00 GMT 1
Sunak has been attempting to do a poor imitation of Johnson's rabble rousing techniques at PMQs. Of course, like Johnson, he doesn't answer the questions, especially the one asking about the security status of Williamson. The Deputy Political Editor of the BBC also pointed out that Sunak tried to adopt Johnson's techniques, and said it sounded rather familiar. Attacks on Corbyn are a tired worn out line now and seem to be the go to response to avoid a direct answer. The attack on Labour for unfunded borrowing was rightfully met by ridicule given the events of the last month. All in all though I’d say honours fairly even, Starmer got some good jibes in but wasted a few questions, Sunak gave some good non-scripted responses but as you say also veered into Johnson territory at times. |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 26, 2022 13:10:47 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment . If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked . As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance . What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff . There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling . It seems to be a recurring theme that most of your criticisms seem to be of female MP's. Why is that? Go on, have a wild guess. Good grief is this the best you can come up with. Have a quiet word word with yourself for Gods sake . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 13:19:47 GMT 1
We also shouldn't forget dental health within the wider NHS debate. It's becoming very hard to find a dental practice that will actually take NHS patients. As a result, dental health is becoming a major problem across the country. more like impssible my found one and 6 months later then have opted out I'm an NHS patient with a local practice. I need some follow up treatment at my practice (after I had been to a specialist) but they cannot see me until January! I think they are trying to make it hard for me as an NHS patient to access the treatment I need. I may have no option but to go private, fortunately I can afford it but what if you can't? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2022 13:21:59 GMT 1
Re PMQs: I didn't hear the answer on if this government, desperately short of money, will crack down on people claiming non-domicile status to avoid paying tax on foreign earnings?
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Post by block12massive on Oct 26, 2022 13:52:04 GMT 1
It seems to be a recurring theme that most of your criticisms seem to be of female MP's. Why is that? Go on, have a wild guess. You have a problem with women in power? I'd say we should contrast it with your opinions of prominent women in the Labour party for the last 50 years but lets face it there haven't been very many of them. |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 26, 2022 14:00:04 GMT 1
Go on, have a wild guess. You have a problem with women in power? I'd say we should contrast it with your opinions of prominent women in the Labour party for the last 50 years but lets face it there haven't been very many of them. Yes, if that’s what you think go ahead . Your final paragraph tells me all I need to know about you. Very sad person aren’t you. Never mind ,you’ll grow up one day and then we can have a grown up conversation . I won’t be holding my breath. |
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Post by block12massive on Oct 26, 2022 14:21:11 GMT 1
You have a problem with women in power? I'd say we should contrast it with your opinions of prominent women in the Labour party for the last 50 years but lets face it there haven't been very many of them. Yes, if that’s what you think go ahead . Your final paragraph tells me all I need to know about you. Very sad person aren’t you. Never mind ,you’ll grow up one day and then we can have a grown up conversation . I won’t be holding my breath. Your comment and thread history tells us what we need to know about your unconscious bias. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 26, 2022 14:21:52 GMT 1
Steve Barclay comes in as Health Sec and the useless Coffey goes to Environment . If she has a say on fracking or the state of our rivers or anything like then forget it , we will be well and truly f.cked . As for Health / Social Care we need all parties to come together on this , it’s of the upmost importance . What we don’t want is private insurance companies getting a whiff . There’s money to be made in the Health Service so they say - the Vultures are circling . It seems to be a recurring theme that most of your criticisms seem to be of female MP's. Why is that? Brocialism for your brogressive. Get with the times.  I blame Corbyn. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2022 14:32:57 GMT 1
What a pointless load of twaddle these accusations, insinuations - and even some of the replies are. All based on zero evidence except that some rightwingers in the Conservative hierarchy are of colour or female - makes you wonder where that infamous and much criticised rightwinger Rees-Mogg fits in? Grow up kids!
Anyway, back with people with a modicum of sense, Rishi has reimposed the fracking ban!
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Post by kenwood on Oct 26, 2022 15:46:57 GMT 1
What a pointless load of twaddle these accusations, insinuations - and even some of the replies are. All based on zero evidence except that some rightwingers in the Conservative hierarchy are of colour or female - makes you wonder where that infamous and much criticised rightwinger Rees-Mogg fits in? Grow up kids!
Anyway, back with people with a modicum of sense, Rishi has reimposed the fracking ban!
Excellent news . I am delighted with that . It was always a contentious issue . I’m of the opinion that many would like to see a mix of energy provision call it what you will , with wind power off and onshore, solar and even nuclear but certainly not fracking . A good start . |
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Post by block12massive on Oct 26, 2022 15:50:21 GMT 1
Anyway, back with people with a modicum of sense, Rishi has reimposed the fracking ban!
Yay, let's continue to be reliant on importing oil from countries with murky human rights records and paying top whack for it. I'm sure it'll be not a crumb of comfort to the poor and impoverished this winter. |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 26, 2022 16:05:14 GMT 1
Anyway, back with people with a modicum of sense, Rishi has reimposed the fracking ban!
Yay, let's continue to be reliant on importing oil from countries with murky human rights records and paying top whack for it. I'm sure it'll be not a crumb of comfort to the poor and impoverished this winter. Tell me , are you in favour of fracking. Genuine ? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2022 16:10:29 GMT 1
Yay, let's continue to be reliant on importing oil from countries with murky human rights records and paying top whack for it. I'm sure it'll be not a crumb of comfort to the poor and impoverished this winter. Tell me , are you in favour of fracking. Genuine ? Academic now, no company is going to invest in an on-off-on-off speculative venture.
No, stick the money in off shore wind and lobby the government not to "windfall" tax those lovely gauranteed profits.
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