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Post by shrewder on Oct 21, 2022 12:51:41 GMT 1
Liz Truss is set to draw up a resignation honours list - despite only having been in the job for six weeks, the Telegraph can disclose. Should honour the country's biggest losers. Nominations on a postcard. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 12:52:06 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 21, 2022 13:22:44 GMT 1
As does Boris. Question is does he keep that allowance if he becomes PM again? I think he does as May and Boris now get there MPs pension and the allowance so £84k plus £115k …..That’s the rules so no problem with that but should the rules be looked at when a PM can serve such a short term. Both Boris and Truss resigned (not sacked) knowing they’d receive both. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2022 13:25:56 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 21, 2022 13:30:41 GMT 1
What part of “Boris lied to you” don’t people understand?? They understand it but don’t care, he’s charismatic enough to get the voter’s onside…. Been listening to people being interviewed in Grimsby all red wall voters still backing Boris. There is a reason. |
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Post by Dancin on Oct 21, 2022 13:37:43 GMT 1
Remember folks, he got the jab early! Apart from that errrrr….. nothing! Brexit |
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Post by Dancin on Oct 21, 2022 13:51:19 GMT 1
What part of “Boris lied to you” don’t people understand?? They do understand it but is the Labour alternative any better? Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. Whatever is said Boris is liked by grassroot supporters across the political divide; some may not like him but the bloke has "Style" in a lot of peoples eyes. |
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Post by tdk on Oct 21, 2022 13:59:48 GMT 1
The Conservative MP's want to avoid a General Election now at all costs. Most would be out of a job.
Much of the public/commentators are pushing for an election. Boris with his mandate to rule would give the party some validity.
That way they can hang on for 2 more years and hope things might change
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2022 14:02:21 GMT 1
What part of “Boris lied to you” don’t people understand?? They do understand it but is the Labour alternative any better? Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. Whatever is said Boris is liked by grassroot supporters across the political divide; some may not like him but the bloke has "Style" in a lot of peoples eyes. On that basis, Del Boy would have commanded a following if he'd entered into politics! |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 14:05:46 GMT 1
The Conservative MP's want to avoid a General Election now at all costs. Most would be out of a job. Much of the public/commentators are pushing for an election. Boris with his mandate to rule would give the party some validity. That way they can hang on for 2 more years and hope things might change It's insane really isnt it? The country is being run purely for the benefit of the Conservative party. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 14:09:34 GMT 1
They do understand it but is the Labour alternative any better? Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. Whatever is said Boris is liked by grassroot supporters across the political divide; some may not like him but the bloke has "Style" in a lot of peoples eyes. On that basis, Del Boy would have commanded a following if he'd entered into politics! Apart from having a posh accent he pretty much did... |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2022 14:10:23 GMT 1
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Post by Dancin on Oct 21, 2022 14:17:08 GMT 1
Errrr...Yes.. The referendum question was: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? The responses were: 1) Remain a member of the European Union 2) Leave the European Union We are no longer a member of the EU the fact its a complete s**t show in Northern Ireland is troublesome. |
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Post by armchairfan on Oct 21, 2022 14:29:38 GMT 1
I wouldn’t like Sunak to become PM , he seems far too sensible with a fine understanding of economics . Boris would be great , led into the chamber by Nadine fawning over him with Priti Patel . What a sight as Tory MP’s roar their approval. Not many of them mind , as half of them would have resigned or crossed the floor . No, there’s only one MP in my book to undertake such a position and that is Danny K . With him in charge we would all be completely f.cked but we would die laughing. Can someone tell me why the Shropshire Star refer to our ex PM as MRS Truss . Strange. I do understand completely that your opening paragraph is delivered with heavy irony, but there is evidence from some contributions on here that such a view should be taken seriously, in other words anything which can assist what is already, in my view, an almost inevitable Labour victory at the next GE. As a Conservative member, that strikes me as the Left doing exactly what they accuse the Conservatives of doing - putting their own needs above those of the country; I do not necessarily query the rights or wrongs with such a stance, but merely observe its existence. As for the possibility of Mr Johnson returning, I wouldn't be in favour, notwithstanding the fact that he still retains a degree of popularity in certain quarters: to the average Tory, he is a proven vote-winner, and to all those non-Tory Brexit voters, he is the PM who " delivered"; for me, however, he is a weak man, albeit with a fairly reliable political compass, but lacking a moral one.....such a great shame. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 14:35:07 GMT 1
Errrr...Yes.. The referendum question was: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? The responses were: 1) Remain a member of the European Union 2) Leave the European Union We are no longer a member of the EU the fact its a complete s**t show in Northern Ireland is troublesome. With typical Boris lack of attention to detail, Get Brexit Done turned out to be Get Brexit Bodged. |
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 21, 2022 14:53:41 GMT 1
Errrr...Yes.. The referendum question was: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? The responses were: 1) Remain a member of the European Union 2) Leave the European Union We are no longer a member of the EU the fact its a complete s**t show in Northern Ireland is troublesome. With typical Boris lack of attention to detail, Get Brexit Done turned out to be Get Brexit Bodged. In your opinion. You're doing that thing where you try and speak on behalf of everyone again? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 14:59:16 GMT 1
With typical Boris lack of attention to detail, Get Brexit Done turned out to be Get Brexit Bodged. In your opinion. You're doing that thing where you try and speak on behalf of everyone again? So we've magically sorted out Norhern Ireland? We've got much better trade deals than we had in the EU? We've found and trained up enough doctors, nurses, HGV drivers, Social Care staff, agricultural wotkers, etc. to not have to find them from abroad? The financial markets think Brexit was great, the pound is so far up against the Euro it's getting a nose bleed? All is rosey? |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 21, 2022 15:12:24 GMT 1
What part of “Boris lied to you” don’t people understand?? Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. I guess people are going to be more willing to forgive someone's transgressions if the alternative is seen to be no better. Hardly a surprise that many who voted to leave the EU in 2016 might still hold doubts about his integrity but in addition to that, you also have a good few on the left who feel the same. I'm not up on the internal machinations of the Labour party (and so I don't know the ins and outs of all this) but for example, I caught an interview on GB News with Len McCluskey the other day and he was discussing Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, the ten pledges Starmer made during the leadership campaign, etc. On Starmer, McCluskey came right out and said "The man's a liar". |
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Post by wookeywombat on Oct 21, 2022 15:25:08 GMT 1
Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. I guess people are going to be more willing to forgive someone's transgressions if the alternative is seen to be no better. Hardly a surprise that many who voted to leave the EU in 2016 might still hold doubts about his integrity but in addition to that, you also have a good few on the left who feel the same. I'm not up on the internal machinations of the Labour party (and so I don't know the ins and outs of all this) but for example, I caught an interview on GB News with Len McCluskey the other day and he was discussing Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, the ten pledges Starmer made during the leadership campaign, etc. On Starmer, McCluskey came right out and said "The man's a liar". Has he ever ben sacked for lying. Unlike the supposed resurrected Boris who has quite categorically been sacked for lying (twice) and is still up before the parliamentary standards body accused of the same. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2022 15:35:20 GMT 1
Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. I guess people are going to be more willing to forgive someone's transgressions if the alternative is seen to be no better. Hardly a surprise that many who voted to leave the EU in 2016 might still hold doubts about his integrity but in addition to that, you also have a good few on the left who feel the same. I'm not up on the internal machinations of the Labour party (and so I don't know the ins and outs of all this) but for example, I caught an interview on GB News with Len McCluskey the other day and he was discussing Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, the ten pledges Starmer made during the leadership campaign, etc. On Starmer, McCluskey came right out and said "The man's a liar". Didn't realise you had gone all left wing and become a Len McCluskey disciple? |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 21, 2022 15:37:09 GMT 1
I guess people are going to be more willing to forgive someone's transgressions if the alternative is seen to be no better. Hardly a surprise that many who voted to leave the EU in 2016 might still hold doubts about his integrity but in addition to that, you also have a good few on the left who feel the same. I'm not up on the internal machinations of the Labour party (and so I don't know the ins and outs of all this) but for example, I caught an interview on GB News with Len McCluskey the other day and he was discussing Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, the ten pledges Starmer made during the leadership campaign, etc. On Starmer, McCluskey came right out and said "The man's a liar". Has he ever ben sacked for lying. Unlike the supposed resurrected Boris who has quite categorically been sacked for lying (twice) and is still up before the parliamentary standards body accused of the same. When we're talking about whether someone is seen as a liar or not I'm not sure that matters. And we can talk about being sacked for lying but how does that compare to a politician ignoring the democratic process and democratic will of over 17 million people. Its not the best look. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 21, 2022 15:38:06 GMT 1
I guess people are going to be more willing to forgive someone's transgressions if the alternative is seen to be no better. Hardly a surprise that many who voted to leave the EU in 2016 might still hold doubts about his integrity but in addition to that, you also have a good few on the left who feel the same. I'm not up on the internal machinations of the Labour party (and so I don't know the ins and outs of all this) but for example, I caught an interview on GB News with Len McCluskey the other day and he was discussing Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, the ten pledges Starmer made during the leadership campaign, etc. On Starmer, McCluskey came right out and said "The man's a liar". Didn't realise you had gone all left wing and become a Len McCluskey disciple?  I'm with Pilch on this one, have a day off Stafford. |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 21, 2022 15:48:05 GMT 1
Of course the leader of the "Labour" Party now needs to addressed as Sir Kier Starmer KC
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 15:52:31 GMT 1
Good to see that Penny Mordaunt has thrown her hat into the ring.
She would have definitely had my vote first time around.
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 21, 2022 15:53:03 GMT 1
Their was a scouser on the radio this morning, works in Manchester Fruit & Veg Market, and he said despite what Boris has done he trusts him more than he ever would Keir. I guess people are going to be more willing to forgive someone's transgressions if the alternative is seen to be no better. Hardly a surprise that many who voted to leave the EU in 2016 might still hold doubts about his integrity but in addition to that, you also have a good few on the left who feel the same. I'm not up on the internal machinations of the Labour party (and so I don't know the ins and outs of all this) but for example, I caught an interview on GB News with Len McCluskey the other day and he was discussing Corbyn's suspension from the Labour party, the ten pledges Starmer made during the leadership campaign, etc. On Starmer, McCluskey came right out and said "The man's a liar". Starmer has ditched all of his leadership campaign pledges. Those in turn differed from a manifesto he supported in 2019 when he was a shadow cabinet member He's polling record highs as the Tories have hit the self destruct button, not because people view him and his policies as Godly. I'm still in 2 minds on him and the Labour party, they tried to block the 2016 result and have since moved across the spectrum further and more regularly than imaginable. The phrase 'politically homeless' comes to mind |
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 21, 2022 15:53:37 GMT 1
Good to see that Penny Mordaunt has thrown her hat into the ring. She would have definitely had my vote first time around. Same with me - she impressively took the fight to Starmer the other day in the Commons |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2022 16:20:50 GMT 1
Good to see that Penny Mordaunt has thrown her hat into the ring. She would have definitely had my vote first time around. Same with me - she impressively took the fight to Starmer the other day in the Commons Agreed. But all the evidence suggests that if Boris runs, she'll be squeezed out from getting 100 votes. |
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Oct 21, 2022 16:22:22 GMT 1
Mordaunt won't get the 100 votes, she'll get a nice high up job by whichever candidate looks like they're going to win. Which at that point points to Johnson.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 21, 2022 16:36:37 GMT 1
I wouldn’t like Sunak to become PM , he seems far too sensible with a fine understanding of economics . Boris would be great , led into the chamber by Nadine fawning over him with Priti Patel . What a sight as Tory MP’s roar their approval. Not many of them mind , as half of them would have resigned or crossed the floor . No, there’s only one MP in my book to undertake such a position and that is Danny K . With him in charge we would all be completely f.cked but we would die laughing. Can someone tell me why the Shropshire Star refer to our ex PM as MRS Truss . Strange. ...for me, however, he is a weak man, albeit with a fairly reliable political compass, but lacking a moral one.....such a great shame. Do you not think though that being ousted and humbled as he was he may have had time to reflect and perhaps we may see a different Boris Johnson; perhaps a more focused, dedicated, honest and decent Boris Johnson? Nah, me neither...  |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 21, 2022 16:40:41 GMT 1
...for me, however, he is a weak man, albeit with a fairly reliable political compass, but lacking a moral one.....such a great shame. Do you not think though that being ousted and humbled as he was he may have had time to reflect and perhaps we may see a different Boris Johnson; perhaps a more focused, dedicated, honest and decent Boris Johnson? Nah, me neither... I would not discount that thought totally, EVEN he must notice he had his ar$e kicked, even if he came back more focused and dedicated to the ACTUAL job then who knows? |
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