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Post by salop27 on Oct 20, 2022 14:06:08 GMT 1
For the sake of the country this leadership contest needs to be short and sweet with 3 or 4 candidates at most and when the final two are known the loser withdraws. The Conservative membership have had their chance and backed the wrong horse in a two horse race.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:15:19 GMT 1
For the sake of the country this leadership contest needs to be short and sweet with 3 or 4 candidates at most and when the final two are known the loser withdraws. The Conservative membership have had their chance and backed the wrong horse in a two horse race. Sadly, they were set up with a two donkey race. Somehow (Williamson?), the members did not get to vote on a breath of fresh air - Penny Mordaunt. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2022 14:16:12 GMT 1
For the sake of the country this leadership contest needs to be short and sweet with 3 or 4 candidates at most and when the final two are known the loser withdraws. The Conservative membership have had their chance and backed the wrong horse in a two horse race. The membership should have been given more choice than the 2 final candidates presented. Whoever takes over should be calling an immediate General Election, end of. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:24:06 GMT 1
The Conservative membership have had their chance and backed the wrong horse in a two horse race. Mind you, I did hear a good point the other day. The membership weren't keen on either Truss or Sunak. The gist of it was that the MP's handed over two candidates that were not popular with the membership, their preferred candidates didn't make it to the last two. So perhaps not all on the membership, you could argue the MP's handed them a rock and a hard place. Although its been a while now, I don't recall who was topping the polls of the memberships preferred candidates. Looking forward, really will be interesting to see if Sunak now becomes PM. As I do think that could cause even more division. I suspect their will be pressure to get Wallace involved. Maybe Johnson?  |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 14:24:22 GMT 1
Quick, get that thread title changed to  again  Will the new one still be honouring the triple lock for pensioners? That was my immediate thought. Not too sure that Hunt was comfortable on honouring it. |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 20, 2022 14:24:42 GMT 1
For the sake of the country this leadership contest needs to be short and sweet with 3 or 4 candidates at most and when the final two are known the loser withdraws. The Conservative membership have had their chance and backed the wrong horse in a two horse race. The membership should have been given more choice than the 2 final candidates presented. Whoever takes over should be calling an immediate General Election. The problem is anyone with any substance is avoiding the job as any shoed in PM is likely to hounded out by the media and voters again…..May Boris and now Truss all forced out by their actions….the public want a choice whoever that might be. |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 20, 2022 14:27:02 GMT 1
Quick, get that thread title changed to again Will the new one still be honouring the triple lock for pensioners? That was my immediate thought. Not too sure that Hunt was comfortable on honouring it. I took a screen shot of Hunt nodding his agreement when Truss announced it 👍 |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:28:32 GMT 1
Jeremy Hunt apparently rules himself out of the contest. He's seen the mess we are in from the inside! How many more sensible candidates (like Ben Wallace) will rule themselves out? Leaving yet another opportunity for barmpots of the likes of Liz Truss to throw their hat into the ring.
Satire is dead, real politics is funnier - if it wasn't so imoortant to us all.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:31:06 GMT 1
What a shambles it all is to be sure.
Is there anyone in the party who can pull it round or will we go from one lame duck to another?
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:43:27 GMT 1
What a shambles it all is to be sure. Is there anyone in the party who can pull it round or will we go from one lame duck to another? Mordaunt offers a shred of sanity and respectability, but no doubt the machinations of the Tory leader election process will see her off in a hurry. Again. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 14:46:14 GMT 1
Latest bookies odds:
Rishi Sunak
13/8
Penny Mordaunt
9/2
Ben Wallace
10/1
Boris Johnson
14/1
Boris Johnson!!
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 14:48:21 GMT 1
Jeremy Hunt apparently rules himself out of the contest. He's seen the mess we are in from the inside! How many more sensible candidates (like Ben Wallace) will rule themselves out? Leaving yet another opportunity for barmpots of the likes of Liz Truss to throw their hat into the ring.
Satire is dead, real politics is funnier - if it wasn't so imoortant to us all.
maybe you could take a week off, I'll message you which name to insert in a weeks time |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 14:49:13 GMT 1
What a shambles it all is to be sure. Is there anyone in the party who can pull it round or will we go from one lame duck to another? Mordaunt offers a shred of sanity and respectability, but no doubt the machinations of the Tory leader election process will see her off in a hurry. Again. Yeah, once again Gavin Williamson will no doubt be targeting her on behalf of Team Sunak. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 14:52:36 GMT 1
Oh no!
'I'm told that Boris Johnson is expected to stand in the Tory leadership contest
He's taking soundings but is said to believe it is a matter of national interest'.
Steven Swinford. Political Editor, The Times.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:53:34 GMT 1
Latest bookies odds: Rishi Sunak 13/8 Penny Mordaunt 9/2 Ben Wallace 10/1 Boris Johnson 14/1 Boris Johnson!! Boris Johnson? But MP's only just got rid of him - would they want to go back to all that again - though the members might want him. Wonder if he would be prepared to test the public's level of forgiveness in an immediate General Election? Mp's might just do it if that was the case - he might be their only chance of winning an election anytime soon. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 14:55:16 GMT 1
Latest bookies odds: Rishi Sunak 13/8 Penny Mordaunt 9/2 Ben Wallace 10/1 Boris Johnson 14/1 Boris Johnson!! Boris Johnson? But MP's only just got rid of him - would they want to go back to all that again - though the members might want him. Wonder if he would be prepared to test the public's level of forgiveness in an immediate General Election? Mp's might just do it if that was the case - he might be their only chance of winning an election anytime soon. that would be a bonus for you, you won't even need to <insert name here>. you could just re use some of your old posts  |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:55:49 GMT 1
Mordaunt offers a shred of sanity and respectability, but no doubt the machinations of the Tory leader election process will see her off in a hurry. Again. Yeah, once again Gavin Williamson will no doubt be targeting her on behalf of Team Sunak. She's done nothing wrong in the last 44 days, whenever she's been in the spotlight she seems to have done well. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:57:34 GMT 1
Boris Johnson? But MP's only just got rid of him - would they want to go back to all that again - though the members might want him. Wonder if he would be prepared to test the public's level of forgiveness in an immediate General Election? Mp's might just do it if that was the case - he might be their only chance of winning an election anytime soon. that would be a bonus for you, you won't even need to <insert name here>. you could just re use some of your old posts You are a stalker and I claim my £10! |
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 20, 2022 14:58:58 GMT 1
What a shambles it all is to be sure. Is there anyone in the party who can pull it round or will we go from one lame duck to another? Mordaunt offers a shred of sanity and respectability, but no doubt the machinations of the Tory leader election process will see her off in a hurry. Again. Agreed but, as you say, I can’t see the Tory grandees going for her unfortunately. If they bring back Boris and his lying and cheating and hypocrisy, we will know finally and completely that they care nothing for this country and the people in it. What a complete wasted few months we have had. Boris did nothing during the summer apart from be absent and his successor led us into the biggest financial fiasco for years. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns. I despair of the lot of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2022 14:59:40 GMT 1
Look at that bullet point, chilling.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 15:00:51 GMT 1
that would be a bonus for you, you won't even need to <insert name here>. you could just re use some of your old posts You are a stalker and I claim my £10! you asked an open question, I answered it, where does the £10 come from, the magic money tree I suppose, maybe the Bank of England ? |
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 20, 2022 15:01:30 GMT 1
Look at that bullet point, chilling. Very. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 15:03:17 GMT 1
The key to this is whether it still goes to the Membership. If it does, then Johnson would be a shoe in. If it doesn't, then Sunak or Mordaunt would seem to be the favourites.
Mind you, Johnson still has to face that Parliamentary Committee to establish whether he misled Parliament. I doubt that would bother the Membership too much though.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 15:04:33 GMT 1
So, who's stupid enougth to want the job? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2022 15:04:40 GMT 1
You are a stalker and I claim my £10! you asked an open question, I answered it, where does the £10 come from, the magic money tree I suppose, maybe the Bank of England ? Thank goodness we have the Bank of England. |
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 20, 2022 15:06:06 GMT 1
If they say it will be done within a week surely there won’t be time for the membership to be involved properly and given their past record that wouldn’t be a bad thing !
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 20, 2022 15:06:28 GMT 1
Mordaunt offers a shred of sanity and respectability, but no doubt the machinations of the Tory leader election process will see her off in a hurry. Again. Agreed but, as you say, I can’t see the Tory grandees going for her unfortunately. If they bring back Boris and his lying and cheating and hypocrisy, we will know finally and completely that they care nothing for this country and the people in it. What a complete wasted few months we have had. Boris did nothing during the summer apart from be absent and his successor led us into the biggest financial fiasco for years. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns. I despair of the lot of them. we have had nearly year of a ruderless ship as boris lurched from one firsestorm to the next, truss was entirely the architect of her own downfall.and we continue to lack any credable leadership ,the damage to uk's international standing is incalculable we are the laughing stock of europe. |
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Post by wookeywombat on Oct 20, 2022 15:07:27 GMT 1
If you are referring to Starmer as the PM in waiting and the Johnson Brexit election, you have obviously forgotten that Starmer was not the leader of the Labour party at that time. Starmer was the architect of Labours disastrous stance on Brexit. It was well known by anyone who bothered to look beyond the rhetoric that Corbyn was/is a Euro skeptic. The only disaster was Brexit itself as has been proved conclusively since. It has brought no advantage whatsoever and saddled us with a string of incompetent politicians, chameleon Truss being the latest. The downside of Starmer is he has ruled out rejoining the EU purely as a sop to what is now, and has been for a long time, the minority who still have their heads buried in the sand and for electoral advantage on his part. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 20, 2022 15:08:58 GMT 1
So, who's stupid enougth to want the job? anyone with any sense will not tough this pisoned chalice, the press has been very hostile to truss from day one and if opnion polls are to be belived who ever takes charge will potentially be in charge as the party get anhihalated in the next election. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 15:09:06 GMT 1
If they say it will be done within a week surely there won’t be time for the membership to be involved properly and given their past record that wouldn’t be a bad thing ! Voting online perhaps? |
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