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Post by neilsalop on Oct 16, 2022 14:01:03 GMT 1
There are discussions between senior members of the 1922 Committee of Conservative party backbenchers set to take place this weekend, about Truss’ leadership. There are rumours that there has been a “substantial number” of letters sent in to the committee calling for a vote of no confidence, Sky News has reported, despite Truss being immune for a year after her election. Highlights the old adage: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer - If you were on speaking terms with your sister-in-law you might now be getting an exclusive inside story of what the 1922 committee are up to! Yeah, come on NWM do it for us. Surely you could hold your nose just long enough to get us the up to date gen  |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 16, 2022 14:10:33 GMT 1
Is this Truss Chairman, Hunt CEO thing intended as a sticking plaster until they sort out a way to install a new leader? Somehow, I can't see a ticket of a PM backing policies completly opposite to want she proposed appealing to anyone?
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Post by northwestman on Oct 16, 2022 14:17:49 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11319531/Its-Ben-Wallace-versus-Rishi-Sunak-Rebels-urge-Defence-Secretary-stand-unite-party.htmlBen Wallace, who regularly tops the rankings among Tory party members, is ‘rethinking’ his position because he believes that Rishi Sunak, the favourite to succeed Liz Truss, ‘cannot unite the party’. Mr Wallace's potential change of heart comes as leaders of mutinous backbenchers told The Mail on Sunday that more than 100 Tory MPs are prepared to write to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, submitting a motion of no confidence in Ms Truss. Sir Graham is under pressure to change the rule which stops a leader being challenged for a year after their election – or risk being ousted as chairman. The rebels, led by former Ministers Gavin Williamson, Grant Shapps and Julian Smith, are aiming for 125 names. Any contest is likely to be restricted to MPs because another vote by party members would take too long.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 16, 2022 14:21:02 GMT 1
There are discussions between senior members of the 1922 Committee of Conservative party backbenchers set to take place this weekend, about Truss’ leadership. There are rumours that there has been a “substantial number” of letters sent in to the committee calling for a vote of no confidence, Sky News has reported, despite Truss being immune for a year after her election. Highlights the old adage: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer - If you were on speaking terms with your sister-in-law you might now be getting an exclusive inside story of what the 1922 committee are up to! I doubt it. She knows Graham Brady would throw her out if she disclosed such information. |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 16, 2022 14:25:13 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11319531/Its-Ben-Wallace-versus-Rishi-Sunak-Rebels-urge-Defence-Secretary-stand-unite-party.htmlBen Wallace, who regularly tops the rankings among Tory party members, is ‘rethinking’ his position because he believes that Rishi Sunak, the favourite to succeed Liz Truss, ‘cannot unite the party’. Mr Wallace's potential change of heart comes as leaders of mutinous backbenchers told The Mail on Sunday that more than 100 Tory MPs are prepared to write to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, submitting a motion of no confidence in Ms Truss. Sir Graham is under pressure to change the rule which stops a leader being challenged for a year after their election – or risk being ousted as chairman. The rebels, led by former Ministers Gavin Williamson, Grant Shapps and Julian Smith, are aiming for 125 names. Any contest is likely to be restricted to MPs because another vote by party members would take too long. More like party members wanted Liz Truss knowing her plan to cut taxes with warnings of what the result would be……. Couldn’t trust them again or we’d have Boris back. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 16, 2022 14:33:14 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11319531/Its-Ben-Wallace-versus-Rishi-Sunak-Rebels-urge-Defence-Secretary-stand-unite-party.htmlBen Wallace, who regularly tops the rankings among Tory party members, is ‘rethinking’ his position because he believes that Rishi Sunak, the favourite to succeed Liz Truss, ‘cannot unite the party’. Mr Wallace's potential change of heart comes as leaders of mutinous backbenchers told The Mail on Sunday that more than 100 Tory MPs are prepared to write to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, submitting a motion of no confidence in Ms Truss. Sir Graham is under pressure to change the rule which stops a leader being challenged for a year after their election – or risk being ousted as chairman. The rebels, led by former Ministers Gavin Williamson, Grant Shapps and Julian Smith, are aiming for 125 names. Any contest is likely to be restricted to MPs because another vote by party members would take too long. More like party members wanted Liz Truss knowing her plan to cut taxes with warnings of what the result would be……. Couldn’t trust them again or we’d have Boris back. Ben Wallace? I have him down as having more sense. I suppose he might be keen, if he thinks he could get the Tories elected next election. Otherwise, he could be heading for being leader of the opposition the way things look at the moment. Don't know about Julian Smith, but Gavin Williamson and Grant Shapps should be nowhere near any influence on a legitimate political party. Time the Tory party came to their sebses on that. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 16, 2022 14:43:49 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 16, 2022 14:58:25 GMT 1
Especially as some of the decent rank and file members seem to be giving up their membership.... |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 16, 2022 15:09:00 GMT 1
It has been claimed that Williamson — a highly effective chief whip for former Prime Minister Theresa May, with a somewhat checkered subsequent career — has been aggressively calling MPs to seek their support, warning them directly: “There’s nobody better than I am at this.” “It’s just such a weird arrogance,” an adviser said. “It’s true, he is good at doing this stuff — being horrible and making other people feel unpleasant and uncomfortable. But it’s diametrically opposed to being good at being a minister, which he was absolutely terrible at.” www.politico.eu/article/tory-pm-race-nasty-tactics/ |
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 16, 2022 15:36:48 GMT 1
The ‘membership’ clearly didn’t have a clue when voting about the effects of voting for tax cuts. Although I guess they had as much of a clue as the ex Chancellor and the PM they voted for who turned out to be just not what the country needs!!
We need someone stable and dare I say it boring. Not a lying, cheating ‘personality’ type person with no integrity and definitely not someone else who, it is becoming clear, is clueless. We need just someone to calm everything down and who will try to get our country back on course sooner rather than later.
I don’t know if such a person exists but I do hope so.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 16, 2022 16:53:43 GMT 1
The ‘membership’ clearly didn’t have a clue when voting about the effects of voting for tax cuts. Although I guess they had as much of a clue as the ex Chancellor and the PM they voted for who turned out to be just not what the country needs!! We need someone stable and dare I say it boring. Not a lying, cheating ‘personality’ type person with no integrity and definitely not someone else who, it is becoming clear, is clueless. We need just someone to calm everything down and who will try to get our country back on course sooner rather than later. I don’t know if such a person exists but I do hope so. I think you need to realise that no MP can be trusted, that is why they are politician’s ….. |
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 16, 2022 19:04:00 GMT 1
It’s a pity the people who were able to vote for a new PM did t realise it.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 16, 2022 20:17:40 GMT 1
I doubt any Tory party members will be given a choice in any future leadership contests, having made such a balls up with Truss.
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Post by edgmond on Oct 16, 2022 20:19:18 GMT 1
The ‘membership’ clearly didn’t have a clue when voting about the effects of voting for tax cuts. Although I guess they had as much of a clue as the ex Chancellor and the PM they voted for who turned out to be just not what the country needs!! We need someone stable and dare I say it boring. Not a lying, cheating ‘personality’ type person with no integrity and definitely not someone else who, it is becoming clear, is clueless. We need just someone to calm everything down and who will try to get our country back on course sooner rather than later. I don’t know if such a person exists but I do hope so. I think you need to realise that no MP can be trusted, that is why they are politician’s ….. I’ve no idea whether that is a serious comment but it’s the sort of populist statement that is helping to undermine democracy. The great thing about any of our politicians is that we have the power to get rid of them. There are undoubtedly some untrustworthy MPs but, out of the 650, I would be confident in saying that the majority are hardworking, committed people who do a lot of unseen good for their constituents. I understand why it is easy to brand them all as untrustworthy after the shambles of the last three years (Johnson’s most damaging legacy is the way that he undermined the integrity of democratic power) but there are some honest, talented people in Parliament at the moment. Unfortunately, most of them are nowhere near positions of power (I include people on both sides of the House in that). Of course, we can do something about that when we are given the chance. We should cherish that fact. The alternatives to parliamentary democracy are far worse, as can be seen in many parts of the world. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 17, 2022 9:47:01 GMT 1
There would seem to be a fine local example of the previous poster's "good" MP's in Helen Morgan.
Some would say there's a local Shropshire example of a "wrong" un too.
At the next election the people get the chance to decide their fate.
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 17, 2022 11:23:55 GMT 1
Can B&A's betting experts give us the latest odds on Truss making it to 2023 after this morning's climbdown?
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 17, 2022 11:59:16 GMT 1
It seems to me that she won the vote by making promises that she could in no way keep. If she did this in ignorance then we are in deep trouble for relying on her in the future. If she did it deliberately then she is guilty of misleading everyone just to get the top job.
Either way we are in very worrying times.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 17, 2022 12:47:30 GMT 1
Her judgement is shown to be so flawed, that it cannot be trusted on any other policies.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 17, 2022 13:41:50 GMT 1
Can B&A's betting experts give us the latest odds on Truss making it to 2023 after this morning's climbdown? what's the point ? you wouldn't understand them 🤓 |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 17, 2022 13:46:14 GMT 1
There would seem to be a fine local example of the previous poster's "good" MP's in Helen Morgan. Some would say there's a local Shropshire example of a "wrong" un too. At the next election the people get the chance to decide their fate. Ms Morgan whilst carping on about the terrible Tories on shropshire radio this morning was asked by Adam Green how would she solve things, then momentary silence and then carping continued, as ever criticism by the truckload but no return load with answers. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 17, 2022 13:51:20 GMT 1
There would seem to be a fine local example of the previous poster's "good" MP's in Helen Morgan. Some would say there's a local Shropshire example of a "wrong" un too. At the next election the people get the chance to decide their fate. Ms Morgan whilst carping on about the terrible Tories on shropshire radio this morning was asked by Adam Green how would she solve things, then momentary silence and then carping continued, as ever criticism by the truckload but no return load with answers. She's only been an MP less than a year. I wasn't putting her up as the next Truss (who also has no idea), just a decent local MP. |
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 17, 2022 14:28:14 GMT 1
Can B&A's betting experts give us the latest odds on Truss making it to 2023 after this morning's climbdown? what's the point ? you wouldn't understand them 🤓 Is that a promise, or a bet... |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 17, 2022 20:21:55 GMT 1
Well done Penny M for being PM and answering the questions Truss should have done.
Either Truss is hiding, probably writing her resignation speech.
Or
She's gone to Ukraine.
Or
She's been admitted to a mental hospital, maybe had a breakdown - which, if that is the case, I wish her well.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 18, 2022 15:12:33 GMT 1
DM putting into place what has always been their long term objective. It also gives an insight as to the idiocy of the Conservative Members to favour a serial liar. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11327655/Bombshell-poll-finds-half-Tory-MEMBERS-want-Truss-quit.htmlLiz Truss suffered a fresh body blow today as a poll found more than half of Tory members want her to quit, with Boris Johnson the favourite to take over. A bombshell YouGov survey revealed four in five party activists thought the PM was doing a bad job and 55 per cent were convinced she should go, compared to just 38 per cent who backed her staying. Her predecessor Mr Johnson was the preferred option as a replacement, with 32 per cent supporting him while 23 per cent said Rishi Sunak and 10 per cent Ben Wallace. |
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 18, 2022 21:09:36 GMT 1
DM putting into place what has always been their long term objective. It also gives an insight as to the idiocy of the Conservative Members to favour a serial liar. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11327655/Bombshell-poll-finds-half-Tory-MEMBERS-want-Truss-quit.htmlLiz Truss suffered a fresh body blow today as a poll found more than half of Tory members want her to quit, with Boris Johnson the favourite to take over. A bombshell YouGov survey revealed four in five party activists thought the PM was doing a bad job and 55 per cent were convinced she should go, compared to just 38 per cent who backed her staying. Her predecessor Mr Johnson was the preferred option as a replacement, with 32 per cent supporting him while 23 per cent said Rishi Sunak and 10 per cent Ben Wallace. Why should anyone take any notice of their opinions, they won’t be trusted again. They think lying Boris would unite the party??? |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 19, 2022 9:37:39 GMT 1
Michael Gove on Tuesday said it was a matter of when not if Liz Truss will be toppled and joked she had lived up to her “human hand grenade” nickname.
In a series of scathing remarks about the Prime Minister, Mr Gove said the role of Ms Truss’s boss was “now a job share between Jeremy Hunt and the bond market”.
He also predicted that there would be no fracking in the UK despite the Prime Minister lifting the ban on such practices because communities would not approve it.
Daily Telegraph.
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Post by armchairfan on Oct 19, 2022 9:54:04 GMT 1
The ‘membership’ clearly didn’t have a clue when voting about the effects of voting for tax cuts. Although I guess they had as much of a clue as the ex Chancellor and the PM they voted for who turned out to be just not what the country needs!! We need someone stable and dare I say it boring. Not a lying, cheating ‘personality’ type person with no integrity and definitely not someone else who, it is becoming clear, is clueless. We need just someone to calm everything down and who will try to get our country back on course sooner rather than later. I don’t know if such a person exists but I do hope so. I think you need to realise that no MP can be trusted, that is why they are politician’s ….. I am fairly stable, and, as many on here will attest, I can "bore" for the whole of humanity....lol |
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 19, 2022 13:10:32 GMT 1
Starmer absolutely sliced and diced Truss at PMQs. She had nothing to offer. Hunt is unlikely to have anything to offer on 31 October either.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 19, 2022 14:19:18 GMT 1
Starmer absolutely sliced and diced Truss at PMQs. She had nothing to offer. Hunt is unlikely to have anything to offer on 31 October either. She did u turn on the u turn of pension triple lock so Davey Crocket will be happy. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 19, 2022 14:29:06 GMT 1
Starmer absolutely sliced and diced Truss at PMQs. She had nothing to offer. Hunt is unlikely to have anything to offer on 31 October either. She did u turn on the u turn of pension triple lock so Davey Crocket will be happy. Did they throw that little curve ball yesterday so that Liz could come over at PMQs as being "in charge" and slamming down Jeremy Hunt? A pretty cynical ploy to play with pensioner's expectations like that if so. Maybe Conservative MPs just warned her overnight what would have happened if they had messed with pensioners? Divide and rule, attack Universal Credit, but don't attack the pension? |
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