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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 27, 2022 16:01:20 GMT 1
Reported since that Huq has been expelled from the Labour party and has had the whip removed. Not sure she can have any complaints about that. |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2022 16:13:37 GMT 1
Reported since that Huq has been expelled from the Labour party and has had the whip removed. Not sure she can have any complaints about that. David Lammy completely ignored the racist comments. Can't help themselves can they? Having a good few days then the true colour shows. Seems the party is still riddled with racists. |
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Post by wookeywombat on Sept 27, 2022 16:45:14 GMT 1
Reported since that Huq has been expelled from the Labour party and has had the whip removed. Not sure she can have any complaints about that. David Lammy completely ignored the racist comments. Can't help themselves can they? Having a good few days then the true colour shows. Seems the party is still riddled with racists. " David Lammy, the shadow foreign secretary, told the BBC that the remarks were "unfortunate" and that Ms Huq should "stand those comments down". Maybe not as strident condemnation as you would want but certainly not ignoring it. |
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 27, 2022 17:13:34 GMT 1
This Huq regularly gets questions in PMQs and she normally only uses her opportunity to attack the government with little substance to her questions. She needs to get gone.
So stupid and self-harming, literally all the Labour Party have to do is avoid controversy and the election is theirs for the taking, and these fringe nobodies keep embarrassing themself and by wider extension their party.
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2022 17:49:03 GMT 1
This Huq regularly gets questions in PMQs and she normally only uses her opportunity to attack the government with little substance to her questions. She needs to get gone. So stupid and self-harming, literally all the Labour Party have to do is avoid controversy and the election is theirs for the taking, and these fringe nobodies keep embarrassing themself and by wider extension their party. 110% agree with you. |
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Post by northwestman on Sept 27, 2022 18:57:20 GMT 1
This Huq regularly gets questions in PMQs and she normally only uses her opportunity to attack the government with little substance to her questions. She needs to get gone. So stupid and self-harming, literally all the Labour Party have to do is avoid controversy and the election is theirs for the taking, and these fringe nobodies keep embarrassing themself and by wider extension their party. 110% agree with you. Regrettably, these sort of characters are the end product of the influence that Momentum and Unite had when Labour candidates were selected at the last election. That said, Huq was elected in 2015, but was one of the 36 MPs to nominate Corbyn for the leadership. www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/05/unite-momentum-dominate-labour-selections-candidates-key-marginals |
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Post by Worthingshrew on Sept 27, 2022 21:34:02 GMT 1
Wouldn’t bet against Labour snatching defeat from jaws of victory with some Momentum inspired lunacy. I really believe if there’s widespread industrial unrest over the winter, it will play right into the Tories hands, and Starmer knows this which was why he was against Shadow Cabinet ministers joining picket lines recently.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 27, 2022 22:46:36 GMT 1
I honestly don’t know which is worse for us the general public at the moment.
The proposed industrial actions or the economic situation and whether this government can handle it.
It’s all pretty hopeless.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Sept 28, 2022 6:40:12 GMT 1
Haven’t heard any5ing from Truss for a few days, is she still around??
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 28, 2022 9:15:18 GMT 1
Haven’t heard any5ing from Truss for a few days, is she still around?? Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? |
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Post by northwestman on Sept 28, 2022 9:25:36 GMT 1
I honestly don’t know which is worse for us the general public at the moment. The proposed industrial actions or the economic situation and whether this government can handle it. It’s all pretty hopeless. We might even have a new virulent strain of covid turning up too! |
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Post by kenwood on Sept 28, 2022 9:48:46 GMT 1
Haven’t heard any5ing from Truss for a few days, is she still around?? Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? Oh dear , oh dear , another attempt at clutching at straws . I may be wrong but did you comment when Johnson made his “ letter box “ jest or maybe his “ watermelon smiles “ jibe . No, thought not . Johnson gave his party ample opportunity to bin him over his racist views . Did they - hmmm , what do you think . |
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Post by block12massive on Sept 28, 2022 9:55:27 GMT 1
Haven’t heard any5ing from Truss for a few days, is she still around?? Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? The woman canna win. If she's at the forefront of a PR campaign, ill-advised or otherwise (like the rather grand Christmas photo in front of the fire) she's parading around like she thinks she's 'Queen Elizabeth' or subject of the endless lazy comparisons to Mrs Thatcher. And if she goes about her business quietly, she's gone into hiding. |
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 28, 2022 9:59:48 GMT 1
Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? The woman canna win. If she's at the forefront of a PR campaign, ill-advised or otherwise (like the rather grand Christmas photo in front of the fire) she's parading around like she thinks she's 'Queen Elizabeth' or subject of the endless lazy comparisons to Mrs Thatcher. And if she goes about her business quietly, she's gone into hiding. I get what you’re saying, but after the almighty s**t-storm that is the aftermath of the mini-budget, it would’ve been some consolation to at least see her somewhere saying something. |
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Post by edgmond on Sept 28, 2022 10:02:11 GMT 1
Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? Oh dear , oh dear , another attempt at clutching at straws . I may be wrong but did you comment when Johnson made his “ letter box “ jest or maybe his “ watermelon smiles “ jibe . No, thought not . Johnson gave his party ample opportunity to bin him over his racist views . Did they - hmmm , what do you think . And does anyone know what happened to the internal Conservative Party report into Islamophobia? Racism of any sort is vile, but at least the Labour Party can now be seen to be dealing with it. |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 28, 2022 10:02:46 GMT 1
The woman canna win. If she's at the forefront of a PR campaign, ill-advised or otherwise (like the rather grand Christmas photo in front of the fire) she's parading around like she thinks she's 'Queen Elizabeth' or subject of the endless lazy comparisons to Mrs Thatcher. And if she goes about her business quietly, she's gone into hiding. I get what you’re saying, but after the almighty s**t-storm that is the aftermath of the mini-budget, it would’ve been some consolation to at least see her somewhere saying something. Wild thought here, but you can do you job without being seen? People complained boJo was always p**sing about for a photo op, Liz does the opposite and gets criticised. What do you want her to say? If she say she's in support, you'd only go on the attack anyway. |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 28, 2022 10:03:13 GMT 1
Oh dear , oh dear , another attempt at clutching at straws . I may be wrong but did you comment when Johnson made his “ letter box “ jest or maybe his “ watermelon smiles “ jibe . No, thought not . Johnson gave his party ample opportunity to bin him over his racist views . Did they - hmmm , what do you think . And does anyone know what happened to the internal Conservative Party report into Islamophobia? Racism of any sort is vile, but at least the Labour Party can now be seen to be dealing with it. When they truly deal with antisemitism I'll believe it. |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 28, 2022 10:04:13 GMT 1
Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? Oh dear , oh dear , another attempt at clutching at straws . I may be wrong but did you comment when Johnson made his “ letter box “ jest or maybe his “ watermelon smiles “ jibe . No, thought not . Johnson gave his party ample opportunity to bin him over his racist views . Did they - hmmm , what do you think . Anyone with an ounce of sense condemns those comments, surely? You say "no, thought not" without having an knowledge of what I've ever said on the subject. |
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Post by kp on Sept 28, 2022 10:19:21 GMT 1
And does anyone know what happened to the internal Conservative Party report into Islamophobia? Racism of any sort is vile, but at least the Labour Party can now be seen to be dealing with it. When they truly deal with antisemitism I'll believe it. That tired old trope has been completely discredited. Do try to keep up. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Sept 28, 2022 10:24:57 GMT 1
Quietly getting on with the job rather than whipping up racial hatred at a fringe event maybe? Oh dear , oh dear , another attempt at clutching at straws . I may be wrong but did you comment when Johnson made his “ letter box “ jest or maybe his “ watermelon smiles “ jibe . No, thought not . Johnson gave his party ample opportunity to bin him over his racist views . Did they - hmmm , what do you think . Far be it from me to defend Boris but the "watermelon smiles" thing has always bugged me given it's clearly intended as an attack on what he sees as Blair's colonialist mindset. Ill judged perhaps, but if you actually read the column it's clear that he's implying that that's how Blair sees the Congolese people. What's doubly interesting about that one though in the context of recent events is how the Queen gets the same treatment. Go and look up the sentence where he actually uses the expression "piccaninnies"; makes you wonder why this was never a bigger issue for the guy amongst his fanbase given the crossover between them and people who thought it was too offensive to play a football match two days after the queen died is huge. As for Rupa Huq, not much more to say beyond these comments are cringe inducingly ignorant. Glad to see Labour wasting no time in dealing with it though. |
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 28, 2022 10:28:01 GMT 1
I get what you’re saying, but after the almighty s**t-storm that is the aftermath of the mini-budget, it would’ve been some consolation to at least see her somewhere saying something. Wild thought here, but you can do you job without being seen? People complained boJo was always p**sing about for a photo op, Liz does the opposite and gets criticised. What do you want her to say? If she say she's in support, you'd only go on the attack anyway. Maybe so, and in her defence she’s had a very stop-start introduction to being PM with the Queen’s death and now party conference season so it probably doesn’t help with a perception of feeling leaderless at the moment. With the Conservative party conference next week I’m sure we’ll all hear more from her, both on the economy and other important government matters. A bit wrong to assume I’d just ‘go on the attack’ too, I praised her first PMQs and had mixed views on the budget. I loathed Johnson by the end of his term but don’t have an irrational hatred of all things Tory. |
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Post by block12massive on Sept 28, 2022 10:28:30 GMT 1
Oh dear , oh dear , another attempt at clutching at straws . I may be wrong but did you comment when Johnson made his “ letter box “ jest or maybe his “ watermelon smiles “ jibe . No, thought not . Johnson gave his party ample opportunity to bin him over his racist views . Did they - hmmm , what do you think . What's doubly interesting about that one though in the context of recent events is how the Queen gets the same treatment. Go and look up the sentence where he actually uses the expression "piccaninnies"; makes you wonder why this was never a bigger issue for the guy amongst his fanbase given the crossover between them and people who thought it was too offensive to play a football match two days after the queen died is huge. Weird segue. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Sept 28, 2022 10:50:20 GMT 1
What's doubly interesting about that one though in the context of recent events is how the Queen gets the same treatment. Go and look up the sentence where he actually uses the expression "piccaninnies"; makes you wonder why this was never a bigger issue for the guy amongst his fanbase given the crossover between them and people who thought it was too offensive to play a football match two days after the queen died is huge. Weird segue. Just think it's interesting is all. This is what BoJo actually said about the Queen; "The Queen has come to love the commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag waving piccaninnies." That's a pretty insulting thing to say about the Queen. Obligatory "imagine if Jezzer had said that"..... |
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Post by camdenshrew on Sept 28, 2022 10:58:42 GMT 1
Truss has literally crashed the economy with her idiotic neoliberal zealotry and gone into hiding and the usual suspects on here congratulate her on "quietly getting on with the job." You really couldn't make it up.
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 28, 2022 11:09:55 GMT 1
Truss has literally crashed the economy with her idiotic neoliberal zealotry and gone into hiding and the usual suspects on here congratulate her on "quietly getting on with the job." You really couldn't make it up. What exactly do you want her to do? Come out and say she supports what she's doing then go back inside? She's hardly going to backtrack you'd think. |
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Post by northwestman on Sept 28, 2022 12:08:48 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/28/starmer-urges-truss-to-rethink-budget-as-imf-criticises-tax-plansStarmer gave a round of broadcast interviews after his Labour party conference speech in Liverpool on Tuesday, in which he urged people not to forget or forgive the Conservatives for losing control of the British economy. “They’ve crashed the pound – and for what? Higher interest rates. Higher inflation. Higher borrowing. And for what? Not for you. Not for working people. For tax cuts for the richest 1% in our society. Don’t forget. Don’t forgive,” he said. Asked how Labour’s economic plans were different from the Conservative ones which spooked the markets, Starmer told Times Radio: “We’ve got two rules that we put in place last year, which was we would pay for day-to-day spend, we would borrow to invest.” The Labour leader said he would cancel the cut in corporation tax, cancel the abolition of the 45p tax rate, change the non-dom status and bring in a windfall tax.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Sept 28, 2022 12:12:42 GMT 1
Truss has literally crashed the economy with her idiotic neoliberal zealotry and gone into hiding and the usual suspects on here congratulate her on "quietly getting on with the job." You really couldn't make it up. What exactly do you want her to do? Come out and say she supports what she's doing then go back inside? She's hardly going to backtrack you'd think. No offence but she really does need to backtrack, having the BoE step in to bail out the government is mental. |
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Post by MetaShrew on Sept 28, 2022 13:18:31 GMT 1
Is Truss actually going to appear at the Conservative Party conference?
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Post by wookeywombat on Sept 28, 2022 13:35:40 GMT 1
I get what you’re saying, but after the almighty s**t-storm that is the aftermath of the mini-budget, it would’ve been some consolation to at least see her somewhere saying something. Wild thought here, but you can do you job without being seen? People complained boJo was always p**sing about for a photo op, Liz does the opposite and gets criticised. What do you want her to say? If she say she's in support, you'd only go on the attack anyway. But disappearing is par for the course by the current and former Tory party leader. When times got tough Boris disappeared into a fridge or refused substantive interviews just in fact like Truss did (not the fridge bit but who knows?) |
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Post by northwestman on Sept 28, 2022 13:35:59 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/28/tory-voters-rich-liz-truss-povertySubtlety does not feature large on the short list that is the Liz Truss skill set. She had been campaigning for the Tory leadership long before Boris Johnson was forced to vacate it. In May 2019, as Theresa May sat uncomfortably in No 10, a newspaper profile declared of Truss: “She’s not so much a dark horse as one that has painted itself blue and wrapped itself in flashing neon lights.” Last weekend she used that same newspaper, the Mail on Sunday, to laud the tax cuts launched on Friday and assure the country she would be “unapologetic” in pursuing a strategy that was already frightening the markets on which its success depends. Truss’s single-mindedness won her the Tory leadership. Even though a majority of Tory MPs did not favour her, she directed her sledgehammer campaign at that self-selecting small band, Conservative party members, and they rejoiced in her promise of drastic cuts to tax and regulations. Yet the public reaction to Trussonomics is at a level that the woman herself probably cannot grasp: it is not about the ineptitude but the inequity of the package. The opinion polls taken after Friday’s announcements, but before the markets had delivered their damning verdicts, have shown a substantial swing against the Tories. What is intolerable to many middle-of-the-road, maybe Tory, voters is the bungs to the rich. Even Farrer & Co, renowned for being the late queen’s solicitors, saw fit to put an exclamation mark after its take on the cut on dividend taxes, which it saw as “potentially therefore reducing the tax cost for some using an offshore structure!”. The financial advisers AJ Bell excitedly told clients that the proposed changes “will save highest earning investors and company directors thousands of pounds each year”. The “red wall” voters who gave their votes to Johnson because of their disillusionment are so far removed from that bracket that they will not be able to countenance a government that thinks this is an acceptable strategy. They wanted change; they believed in levelling up, but what they have been presented with is a package that is already making them even poorer. The rising cost of money has a huge impact on borrowers. The much vaunted, and needed, infrastructure projects that would set the country on the path to economic growth became very much more expensive this week. In the meantime, the demands on food banks grow and the levels of poverty among those in work increase. What Truss fails to comprehend is that there are many people who would not consider themselves socialist who find that situation intolerable. Patience Wheatcroft - journalist and crossbench peer (formerly Conservative).
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